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Is there a supernatural dimension?
a world beyond the one we know?
Is there life after death?
Do angels exist?
Can our dreams contain messages from Heaven?
Can we tap into ancient secrets of the supernatural?
Are healing miracles real?
Sid Roth has spent over 35 years researching the strange world of
the supernatural.
Join Sid for this edition of "It's Supernatural!"
Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here.
Welcome to my world where it's naturally supernatural.
You know, in the early '70s when I became a believer in the
Messiah there were books on End Time Bible prophecy and people
were reading them, and they were so excited.
Well guess what?
That generation now, there's a new generation and they need to
get just as excited.
But this new generation has something more going for it than
when I first became a believer in the Messiah, and that is End
Time Bible prophecy is happening so quickly that we've got to get
this show live.
When I say live, I mean, live, live, because news is happening
so quickly in End Time Bible prophecy.
Now my guest got a hold of a hidden element in End Time
events.
It's a war that most people have missed and it's about ready to
happen.
Can you picture telling your neighbor that doesn't know the
Messiah yet what's going to happen and next week it's in the
headlines?
You're going hear it right now.
What I want to know, Bill Salus, is why does a nightclub musician
get so interested in God?
I mean, you tell me that at this point you can't put a Bible down
because you're studying these things.
You have almost a compulsion to do it.
What caused you to make that switch?
Bill: Well it was a process of sojourning, going through some
healing crises and things that the Lord navigated me to a
church one day, through quite a process where someone was
teaching Bible prophecy, the Book of Revelation of all.
And it just captivated my attention.
And when I get into something, Sid, I really get into it.
I become obsessed with it.
I was a businessman at the time after being a musician, and I
realized that the Lord knows the end from the beginning.
Only the Lord knows that.
As a matter of fact, he says that in Isaiah 46, "Only He is
God to know the end from the beginning, and only He can do
that."
Sid: So what fascinates you so much about Bible prophecy now?
As you said, it's almost a compulsion.
Bill: Well it is because I'm watching it unfold on the news,
and I try to be very careful about reading the scriptures and
not doing news to Jesus, as we call it.
But it's so glaring right now.
The current events that are going on in the world right now
connect into the prophecies of the Bible, especially with
Israel.
The super sign of Israel becoming a nation in 1948, God
has big plans for little Israel, and we're seeing it unfold in
light of the Arab Spring, in light of the deposition of
certain Arab leaders and all things going on.
Sid, Bible prophecy right now is for our time, and I'm concerned
that we need to get this message out that there are prophecies
about to happen soon and sequentially through
world-changing events.
Sid: And most people don't comprehend this, that these
predictions were written thousands of years ago and they
read like today's newspaper.
For instance, at 9-11, you got a jolt.
What happened to you?
Bill: Well I had been studying the Arab-Israeli conflict in the
Bible.
For some reason I was drawn toward that.
And when I saw that happen, of course, the world, the country
had questions.
Does the Bible speak about this?
Is this Armageddon?
And I'll be honest with you, I was a little saddened to hear
that there weren't a lot of answers coming out that I could
really sink my teeth into, except one pastor came out and
said, you should be watching this Russian-Iranian invasion of
Ezekiel 38.
And to me, I thought, well that's a great answer, but
that's not what happened.
Sid: What did Russia have to do with what happened in 9-11?
Nothing.
Bill: This was about terrorism, the ugly byproduct of the
Arab-Israeli conflict, of which the Bible speaks volumes about,
and tells us what to follow.
And so I dove in from that point forward into just studying every
possible connecting prophecy, actually to a psalm that I
found, Psalm 83, that talks about an Arab-Israeli war, a
climatic concluding Arab-Israeli war.
Sid: Now tell me what nations are involved in Psalm 83.
Bill: Well we go by, 3000 years ago, the psalm, and of course,
he didn't have back that Jordan, Hezbollah and Palestinians.
Who he was referenced in the vernacular of his time would
Lebanon, to the north of Israel and of course, you have the
Hezbollah there without about 50,000-plus rockets.
You've got Syria.
You've got Jordan.
You've got Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and of course, the Muslim
Brotherhood are inside of Egypt on the rise.
You've got the Hamas and there seems to be the first
participant mentioned is the Palestinians, the Palestinian
refugees known as the Tents of Edom, listed first in that
confederacy of nations.
They come together, they form a gravity council.
They say they want to cut the Nation of Israel off, that
Israel can be remembered no more.
Sid: So you're telling me that this Psalm 83 war is not Ezekiel
38-39.
It is a different war.
Is that what you're saying?
Bill: I do believe that, Sid.
I actually do, and there's various reasons for that.
One is you got different population groups.
None of the groups I just mentioned are involved in
Ezekiel 38 and 39.
Ezekiel speaks of an outer group of nations that don't even share
common borders with Israel: Russia, Iran, Libya, Ethiopia,
Turkey, just to name a few of them.
Those are not the nations I just listed for your audience.
These are the nations of Psalm 83.
Also, Russia's motivation to put their coalition together is for
plunder and great ***.
The Psalm 83 motivation is to take the passages of God for
themselves.
They want another Arab state.
They want Palestine.
They want the Promised Land.
Also, Russia is defeated by God divinely.
The Lord defeats Russia through fire and brimstone, and an
earthquake.
But it's the Israeli defense forces, as I point out in my
teaching, that is instrumental as the tool to stop the Arab
advance against them.
Sid: Well you know what's so amazing to me?
While Bill is getting this revelation on the Psalm 83 war,
in Ireland, a supernatural thing event occurs.
Tell me about it briefly.
Bill: Well that was amazing, Sid, absolutely.
It happened right in the middle of that war that Hezbollah and
Israel were conducting in the summer of 2006.
It started July, went on into August.
And on July 26th of 2006, in the midst of that war, an Irish
construction worker was digging a project in Irish bog soil.
Now that's muddy bog soil.
And he was digging in there on a project and he found some
antiquities and parchments that had been buried for almost a
thousand years, maybe even 1200 years, and it was a bunch of the
books of psalms.
And they were really fragmented and dilapidated, and they're in
a museum right now.
But one psalm was unblemished.
It was open in place.
Guess what that was, Sid?
That was Psalm 83.
It's the only place in the Bible, actually, out of 1189
chapters, out of 31,300-plus verses in the Bible where you
will find Hezbollah and Israel pinned against each other in a
war.
In happened to be exposed and revealed.
It could have been found in the sixth century, the seventh
century.
But it was found in the middle of the heart of that 34-day
conflict.
Sid: Well that's amazing.
But what's even more amazing to me, Bill, is how does something
sit in mud for all these generations and not be totally
decomposed?
Bill: Well and this was no archeological dig with
toothbrushes.
This was excavations and bulldozers.
The odds of this psalm remaining intact over those years under
those conditions, in the mud, I mean, it may as well have been
floating out in the ocean.
I mean, that's how remarkable that is.
Sid: This Psalm 83 war is eminent and we'll explain why.
I mean, it could happen as you're listening to us right
now.
Don't go away.
We'll be right back to "It's Supernatural!"
We now return to "It's Supernatural!"
Sid: So few people realize that there is a war before the big
Ezekiel war we read about.
It's different than that war, and it's called the Psalm 83
war.
Now Bill, you spent 11 years researching this.
Why?
Bill: Well to be honest with you, it was very hard to find
any prophetic commentaries of Psalm 83.
Most of the commentaries were traditional, talking about it
being a predatory prayer of lament.
And so I thought, no, this is a prophecy with a legitimate
confederacy, a contemporary confederacy that comes together
with a very explicit purpose.
If you read Psalm 83, that's exactly what it says.
And so I was fascinated by this.
But I had to dig deep into what the other prophets had to say.
In my teaching, I write about Psalm 83 and the prophets,
because there's a lot said about it.
There's over a hundred verses that I had found that speaks
about Psalm 83.
Ezekiel 38 and 39, one of the most descriptive prophecies in
the Bible is only 52 passages.
But Psalm 83 has a lot more passages involved with the very
populations I mentioned earlier, Sid.
And I do believe that this war, we could wake up one morning
real soon, in light of what's going on in the Middle East.
Sid: Okay.
Tell me why you say that this war is eminent any second now.
Bill: Well because I've been watching, we should have been
watching ever since Israel became a nation in 1948.
The attitude that is embraced in Psalm 83 with the Arab
populations— Sid: But wait a second.
This is an ancient hatred.
This is not some Johnny come lately hatred between Jews and
Arabs.
Bill: And that's why the international community cannot
resolve this conflict.
They don't understand the roots of it.
Long ago when Abraham was promised the Abrahamic Covenant,
the Promised Land, the Chosen People, those around him, the
patriarchs, the matriarchs, you had Hagar, you had Ismael and
all those Old Bible Testament characters that coveted the rich
contents of the Abrahamic Covenant, and they harbored a
hatred.
The Bible calls it an ancient hatred.
It shows a couple of places in Scripture.
And when you put the words together, the Hebrew words
together, [Hebrew], it's a hatred that stems from way back,
long ago, perpetuated throughout time with no end in sight.
It's cancerous, Sid.
It requires a surgical removal.
That's why you can't put peace together, Arab-Israeli peace.
Sid: All right.
What do you see that causes you to believe this war is eminent?
Bill: The enemies listed that I just told you about in Psalm 83
that have been really warring against Israel in 1948, '67 and
'73, they are armed and dangerous.
They have never been more united as a force, especially in light
of the Arab Spring, Sid.
All the leaders are in place right now.
Sid: This could not have happened without the Arab
Spring.
Bill: I concur.
You had, even though Mubarak of Egypt was a dictator and Muammar
Gaddafi had all kinds of problems in Libya, and you can
list all the other leaders that were deposed or assassinated,
but they were keeping the peace with Israel.
But look who's left behind: Ahmadinejad in Iran, Hassan,
Hezbollah in Lebanon, Bashar Assad of Syria.
Now the Muslim Brotherhood, Muhammad Morsi.
That Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is a big deal, Sid.
They were repressed for 40 years, and they now want to
unite the Arabs, and they want to march towards Jerusalem.
Remember, the Hamas terrorist organization, United States
terrorist organization, they say that about Hamas, they were
founded by the Muslim Brotherhood in 1987.
And they have a charter that was founded in 1988.
Sid: But why is the Muslim Brotherhood so dangerous?
Bill: Because they're very calculated.
They're not like Al-Qaeda that wants everything right now.
They're going to approach this, not only from a terror
perspective or a war perspective, but politically as
well.
If you look at what Muhammad Morsi is doing in Egypt now,
he's the consummate politician.
Sid: Why are they so welcome in the White House with the hatred
they have?
I mean, they'll never orchestrate a permanent peace,
never.
Bill: Well President Obama's foreign policy was to be of
engagement, to reach out and talk to these places.
And the Arab Spring, when it came forward, the liberal
pundits thought it was the youth bulge in the Middle East driven
by the social networks of Facebook and YouTube, and
Twitter, and that all these Arabs over there wanted to do
was to get life, liberty and a pursuit of happiness.
And they were sent outside of 17th century Islam into the
present century media.
But that's not what happened.
Right now you've got a revolution in Syria.
You've got a bunch of protests continuing going on in Egypt and
you've got a leadership over there right now, the Muslim
Brotherhood, that has been waiting for four decades to come
into power right now.
Sid: It's been planning and calculating.
Bill: This is their opportunity, and they're going to take full
advantage of it, and they're going to move swiftly, in my
opinion.
Sid: Okay.
Tell me the fate of a few nations, as outlined in the
Bible, in this Psalm 83 war.
Tell me a couple of nations and what's going to happen to them.
Bill: Absolutely.
And the Bible is very descriptive about that.
For instance, Jordan, we're told in Jeremiah 49, Verses 1-6,
there's going to be an alarm of war in Jordan and Jordan is in
Psalm 83, and they're going to be defeated by the Israeli
defense forces, and it goes on and says, "And Israel will take
over possession."
Remember, Jordan is within the Promised Land that was given to
Abraham.
Isaiah 19:18 says that "Five cities in the land of Egypt will
speak the language of Canaan."
That's Hebrew, Sid.
Sid: In Egypt.
Bill: In Egypt.
Obadiah talks descriptively about, in Obadiah 1, Verses 19
and 20, about the West Bank and the Gaza, and southern parts of
Lebanon coming into Israeli possession.
Very descriptive.
And in my teaching I point all these scriptures out.
Sid: What about Iran?
What's going to happen there?
Bill: Well Iran is very interesting.
It's hard to find them in Psalm 83.
Sid: Now I'll tell you what.
You tune in next week.
No, I'm just teasing.
Please tell me.
I got you.
Bill: Okay.
Iran, you don't have to look very far to find out their
future.
They are in the Bible in two different occasions, the most
prominent one is in Ezekiel 38, Iran is listed in the Agog and
Magog invasion with Russia under the banner of Persia.
When Ezekiel wrote about 2500 years ago, his contemporary,
Jeremiah, wrote about Iran also.
He wrote about Elam, E-L-A-M, which is the Bashar nuclear
plant is by the Persian Gulf over there right now.
So modern day Iran on a map was comprised of ancient Elam and
ancient Persia.
They both had specific prophecies.
Ezekiel did not list Iran, Elam, in his.
He spoke about Persia.
And Jeremiah did not speak about Persia.
He spoke about Elam.
Very interesting prophecies.
I wish we had time to share them with you.
But it looks like Jeremiah's prophecy might even be so
accurate of dealing with a potential strike upon Iran's
nuclear plan.
Sid: So the bottom line is, from your study of Bible prophecy, do
you see nuclear bombs going off in Iran?
Bill: I think it's possible.
That Jeremiah 49 prophecy seems to talk about Iran gets "...struck
at the foremost of its might, from whence from Heaven are
drawn together and there's a desertion into the nations of
the world," that could be the result of nuclear fallout.
I do think nuclear weapons will come into play very soon, Sid.
Israel has them and Damascus, we're told in Isaiah 17, the
capital of Syria, "will someday cease to be a city.
It will be a ruined sea."
Sid: What about the United States?
I want to find out what God has shown Bill, from scripture,
about the future of the United States.
Don't go away.
We'll be right back to "It's Supernatural!"
We now return to "It's Supernatural!"
Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here.
I am fascinated.
This has literally been a hidden area until now.
It was almost like were talking about the Irish Dead Sea
Scrolls, affectionately called that, where they dug up Psalm
83.
It's been waiting for this moment to be revealed so that we
would not be caught by surprise.
Tell me about the United States of America.
What is revealed from Scripture about this country?
Bill: That's a very important question, Sid.
Right now it's on the minds of many Americans.
We're very concerned about the direction of this country.
And you know, all those countries I spoke to you about
in terrorists populations in the previous sessions, they're all
in the Bible.
So we can figure out where Iran is and Egypt, and that sort of
thing.
But where is America in the Bible?
See, that's the question.
We have to, I'm not going to guess what's going to America's
future.
I want to know what the Bible says about America's future.
Sid: Me, too.
How about you?
You want to know America's future?
We want to know.
Bill: In my teachings, I present the various arguments where the
people believe America could be in the Bible.
I personally think we are in the Bible.
I think we're the Merchants of Tarshish and the young lions in
Ezekiel 38.
But in my studies, Sid, what I find in America, and I'm a radio
host as well.
I've interviewed people who have written books on this subject.
I'm friends with Jonathan Cahn, who's written a book about the
harbingers, concerns about this country.
And they're all suggesting that the superpower status of
America, what we once were, we don't show up in Bible prophecy.
It's hard to find us because something happens to us as a
country.
And I believe that what we have a very big responsibility to
Israel right now.
The two predominant things that we were called to be a nation
for was to be a safe haven for the Jewish people and we were.
There's over five million Jewish people living in this country
right now.
We were also to be a beacon of Christianity to the world and
preach the Gospel out there.
But our call to be a safe haven to the Jewish people also meant
to be the reestablishment of the Jewish state, to help them
become a nation again.
God knew, in 1948, when America was superpower status, that he
was going to re-gather the Jews into the Nation of Israel.
Harry S. Truman
was one of the most pro-Israel leaders at the time.
We have a responsibility to Israel.
But unfortunately, the last two to three decades we have been
asking Israel to trade land for peace, the very thing in Joel
3:2, where God says He judges the nations, one of the reasons
for dividing up God's land.
That's God's land.
And the Arabs want Israel to recede to its 1967 borders, make
Israel indefensible, and this is a real problem that's coming to
a climatic conclusion now.
America, I look at the example of Great Britain.
The sun used to never set on the British Empire.
And when the Belfour Declaration came out after World War I,
Israel, the Jews were supposed to be able to come into the Land
of Israel, what was today modern day Jordan.
And Great Britain, they were given a green light to do that
and they didn't do it.
And now you look 70 years later, the sun always sets on the
British Empire, Sid.
We have an accountability to Israel.
We did not become a superpower nation— Sid: So we could have
the same fate as Great Britain for the same reason.
Bill: The sun is setting on our superpower status right now.
And we have an obligation to Israel to help the Jewish people
survive, because the Lord has big plans for little Israel
right now.
And we have been given a superpower status for a reason.
And we're starting to see our superpower status slip away.
The God of money has left this country in 2007.
The economy is hoping to recover.
The Arab Spring is a nightmare over there.
We don't know what to do.
It's very problematic.
I'm very concerned for my grandchildren.
I'm very concerned for the younger generation, Sid.
We're watching it happen.
And when Psalm 83 happens, I think it triggers the one event
that others built upon.
Remember Jesus said, in the End Times, he likened it to birth
pangs.
He said, it will be like birth pangs.
In other words, when the End Times start to happen, like a
woman about to give birth, her contractions become more
frequent and they become more intense, and you cannot stop
them.
Sid: Now I have observed something.
I have seen that Israel never starts war.
But they always finish the war and they win, and they normally
have more land.
Will we have, I say we, because I'm Israeli as well as American.
Will Israel have more land as a result of these wars coming up?
Bill: I do believe so.
I teach this, and this is the point.
The Israeli defense forces exist today to fulfill Bible prophecy,
and I point out the scriptures where it says that.
They are the tool that is used to defeat the Psalm 83 Arab
confederacy.
And in the aftermath, under the precedent of the historical
precedent, when Israelis win wars they take land.
Joshua did it.
King David did it.
Sid: How much more land eventually will Israel have?
Bill: Israel will ultimately get what was told in Genesis 15:18,
the land from the river of Egypt, which is the Nile to the
River Euphrates, which is of course modern day Iraq.
They have expanded since it became a nation in 1967.
They almost tripled their size.
They're going to expand into Jordan and into part of Egypt, I
believe, after Psalm 83.
Ultimately, when Jesus returns, and that's what we need to be
watching for, because all this is pointing to his real soon
return, he's going to give them all that land that was promised
to Abraham 4000 years ago.
Sid: You know what I'm reminded of, as Bill was sharing this
right now, my wife, Joyce, my wife was raised Southern
Baptist, became an Agnostic when she went to college, and
converted Orthodox Judaism when we got married.
And I was involved in pioneering one of the first Messianic
Jewish congregations in America.
And she heard prophecy for the first time in her life.
She heard that the Jewish people would always be preserved as a
people.
We would lose our homeland.
We would lose our temple.
We'd be scattered to the four corners of the earth.
Every country we'd go to would eventually turn on us.
Israel would be a modern day nation.
The Jews would be preserved supernaturally.
And she said, I've got to believe that Jesus is Messiah.
And as you study the predictions written thousands of years ago
that are coming true to the decimal point, you will say, I
believe Jesus is the Messiah.
Sid: Next week on "It's Supernatural!"
When you're turning on the radio, you can go to one type
of station or another type of station.
It's called the frequency.
Well my guest has got a frequency for relieving stress
and transmitting supernatural peace.
It's like her voice is at that frequency.
And you'll see what I know, because I've been listening to
her worship, stress can't stand in the presence of that
frequency.