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>>> IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN
>>> IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN
>>> IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN ON "AT ISSUE" HERE ON WTVP THANK
ON "AT ISSUE" HERE ON WTVP THANK
ON "AT ISSUE" HERE ON WTVP THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. I AM H. WAYNE WILSON.
I AM H. WAYNE WILSON.
I AM H. WAYNE WILSON. FOR NEXT HALF-HOUR WE HAVE AN
FOR NEXT HALF-HOUR WE HAVE AN
FOR NEXT HALF-HOUR WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK BACK AND
OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK BACK AND
OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK BACK AND LOOK FORWARD IN REGARD TO HOW WE
LOOK FORWARD IN REGARD TO HOW WE
LOOK FORWARD IN REGARD TO HOW WE ELECT PEORIA CITY COUNCIL
ELECT PEORIA CITY COUNCIL
ELECT PEORIA CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MEMBERS.
MEMBERS. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE WHAT IS
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE WHAT IS
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE WHAT IS CALLED CUMULATIVE VOTING.
CALLED CUMULATIVE VOTING.
CALLED CUMULATIVE VOTING. WOULD TALK ABOUT THAT AND
WOULD TALK ABOUT THAT AND
WOULD TALK ABOUT THAT AND WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS WORKED AND
WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS WORKED AND
WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS WORKED AND WHAT THE FUTURE MIGHT HOLD WITH
WHAT THE FUTURE MIGHT HOLD WITH
WHAT THE FUTURE MIGHT HOLD WITH JOYCE BANKS.
JOYCE BANKS.
JOYCE BANKS. JOYCE WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL
JOYCE WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL
JOYCE WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL LAWSUIT PLAINTIFFS WHEN THE
LAWSUIT PLAINTIFFS WHEN THE
LAWSUIT PLAINTIFFS WHEN THE LAWSUIT WAS FILED BACK IN 1987,
LAWSUIT WAS FILED BACK IN 1987,
LAWSUIT WAS FILED BACK IN 1987, IS THAT RIGHT.
IS THAT RIGHT.
IS THAT RIGHT. >>YES.
>>YES.
>>YES. >>WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT
>>WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT
>>WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LAWSUIT IN A MINUTE WITH IS
LAWSUIT IN A MINUTE WITH IS
LAWSUIT IN A MINUTE WITH IS JOYCE BANKS, AND WE ALSO HAVE
JOYCE BANKS, AND WE ALSO HAVE
JOYCE BANKS, AND WE ALSO HAVE DON JACKSON.
DON JACKSON.
DON JACKSON. DON IS THE BOTH THE STATE AND
DON IS THE BOTH THE STATE AND
DON IS THE BOTH THE STATE AND LOCAL N.A.A.C.P. PRESIDENT, AT
LOCAL N.A.A.C.P. PRESIDENT, AT
LOCAL N.A.A.C.P. PRESIDENT, AT LEAST ANOTHER THREE MONTHS.
LEAST ANOTHER THREE MONTHS.
LEAST ANOTHER THREE MONTHS. AT LEAST ANOTHER THREE MONTHS,
AT LEAST ANOTHER THREE MONTHS,
AT LEAST ANOTHER THREE MONTHS, RIGHT!
RIGHT!
RIGHT! >>TEN YEARS, AND YOU ARE
>>TEN YEARS, AND YOU ARE
>>TEN YEARS, AND YOU ARE SAYING --
SAYING --
SAYING -- >>THAT'S ENOUGH!
>>THAT'S ENOUGH!
>>THAT'S ENOUGH! (LAUGHING) TIME TO RETIRE.
(LAUGHING) TIME TO RETIRE.
(LAUGHING) TIME TO RETIRE. >>LET'S TAKE A LOOK BACK FIRST
>>LET'S TAKE A LOOK BACK FIRST
>>LET'S TAKE A LOOK BACK FIRST IN JUST A BIT OF HISTORY FOR
IN JUST A BIT OF HISTORY FOR
IN JUST A BIT OF HISTORY FOR EVERYBODY.
EVERYBODY.
EVERYBODY. 1973, THE COUNCIL WENT TO FIVE
1973, THE COUNCIL WENT TO FIVE
1973, THE COUNCIL WENT TO FIVE DISTRICT AND THREE AT-LARGE.
DISTRICT AND THREE AT-LARGE.
DISTRICT AND THREE AT-LARGE. THAT WAS A MEASURE THAT WAS
THAT WAS A MEASURE THAT WAS
THAT WAS A MEASURE THAT WAS MOSTLY LED BY THE LEAGUE OF
MOSTLY LED BY THE LEAGUE OF
MOSTLY LED BY THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS.
WOMEN VOTERS.
WOMEN VOTERS. 1987, AND DON, YOU RAN IN THAT
1987, AND DON, YOU RAN IN THAT
1987, AND DON, YOU RAN IN THAT RACE, RIGHT?
RACE, RIGHT?
RACE, RIGHT? >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >>AFTER THAT RACE, A GROUP OF
>>AFTER THAT RACE, A GROUP OF
>>AFTER THAT RACE, A GROUP OF PLAINTIFFS FILED A LAWSUIT.
PLAINTIFFS FILED A LAWSUIT.
PLAINTIFFS FILED A LAWSUIT. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT
CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT
CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LAWSUIT?
ABOUT THE LAWSUIT?
ABOUT THE LAWSUIT? >> THE WHOLE BASIS FOR THE
>> THE WHOLE BASIS FOR THE
>> THE WHOLE BASIS FOR THE LAWSUIT WAS TO ENSURE THAT
LAWSUIT WAS TO ENSURE THAT
LAWSUIT WAS TO ENSURE THAT MINORITY INDIVIDUALS HAD AN
MINORITY INDIVIDUALS HAD AN
MINORITY INDIVIDUALS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT THE
OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT THE
OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY SITTING ON THE CITY
COMMUNITY SITTING ON THE CITY
COMMUNITY SITTING ON THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE PARK
COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE PARK
COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE PARK DISTRICT AND THE SCHOOL BOARD.
DISTRICT AND THE SCHOOL BOARD.
DISTRICT AND THE SCHOOL BOARD. PART OF THAT LAWSUIT MEANT THAT
PART OF THAT LAWSUIT MEANT THAT
PART OF THAT LAWSUIT MEANT THAT WE HAD TO DO A STUDY OF THE
WE HAD TO DO A STUDY OF THE
WE HAD TO DO A STUDY OF THE HISTORY OF VOTING AND POLARIZED
HISTORY OF VOTING AND POLARIZED
HISTORY OF VOTING AND POLARIZED VOTING IN PEORIA OVER ITS
VOTING IN PEORIA OVER ITS
VOTING IN PEORIA OVER ITS HISTORY.
HISTORY.
HISTORY. AND WE DID THAT WITH THE
AND WE DID THAT WITH THE
AND WE DID THAT WITH THE PROFESSOR OUT OF SPRINGFIELD AND
PROFESSOR OUT OF SPRINGFIELD AND
PROFESSOR OUT OF SPRINGFIELD AND DID -- WE TALKED TO QUITE A FEW
DID -- WE TALKED TO QUITE A FEW
DID -- WE TALKED TO QUITE A FEW INDIVIDUALS.
INDIVIDUALS.
INDIVIDUALS. WE WENT THROUGH N.A.A.C.P.
WE WENT THROUGH N.A.A.C.P.
WE WENT THROUGH N.A.A.C.P. RECORDS, AND WE COULD SHOW WITH
RECORDS, AND WE COULD SHOW WITH
RECORDS, AND WE COULD SHOW WITH WITHOUT QUESTION THAT MINORITY
WITHOUT QUESTION THAT MINORITY
WITHOUT QUESTION THAT MINORITY CANDIDATES TEND -- PEOPLE TENDED
CANDIDATES TEND -- PEOPLE TENDED
CANDIDATES TEND -- PEOPLE TENDED TO VOTE FOR MINORITY CANDIDATES,
TO VOTE FOR MINORITY CANDIDATES,
TO VOTE FOR MINORITY CANDIDATES, AND WHITE INDIVIDUALS TENDED TO
AND WHITE INDIVIDUALS TENDED TO
AND WHITE INDIVIDUALS TENDED TO VOTE FOR WHITE CANDIDATES.
VOTE FOR WHITE CANDIDATES.
VOTE FOR WHITE CANDIDATES. WE HAD HAD VERY GOOD CANDIDATES
WE HAD HAD VERY GOOD CANDIDATES
WE HAD HAD VERY GOOD CANDIDATES RUN WHO WERE QUITE CAPABLE OF
RUN WHO WERE QUITE CAPABLE OF
RUN WHO WERE QUITE CAPABLE OF REPRESENTING THE ENTIRE
REPRESENTING THE ENTIRE
REPRESENTING THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BUT AGAIN, LOOKING AT
COMMUNITY, BUT AGAIN, LOOKING AT
COMMUNITY, BUT AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE PRECINCTS, WE COULD SEE
THE PRECINCTS, WE COULD SEE
THE PRECINCTS, WE COULD SEE WHERE WHITE INDIVIDUALS WOULD
WHERE WHITE INDIVIDUALS WOULD
WHERE WHITE INDIVIDUALS WOULD NOT VOTE FOR THOSE MINORITY
NOT VOTE FOR THOSE MINORITY
NOT VOTE FOR THOSE MINORITY CANDIDATES, DON JACKSON BEING
CANDIDATES, DON JACKSON BEING
CANDIDATES, DON JACKSON BEING ONE OF THOSE, WHO WAS NOT
ONE OF THOSE, WHO WAS NOT
ONE OF THOSE, WHO WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL AT-LARGE.
SUCCESSFUL AT-LARGE.
SUCCESSFUL AT-LARGE. SO IT WAS DETERMINED, WITHOUT
SO IT WAS DETERMINED, WITHOUT
SO IT WAS DETERMINED, WITHOUT QUESTION, THAT AT-LARGE
QUESTION, THAT AT-LARGE
QUESTION, THAT AT-LARGE DISTRICTS OR AT-LARGE VOTING WAS
DISTRICTS OR AT-LARGE VOTING WAS
DISTRICTS OR AT-LARGE VOTING WAS DISCRIMINATORY IN TERMS OF
DISCRIMINATORY IN TERMS OF
DISCRIMINATORY IN TERMS OF ELECTING MINORITY CANDIDATES.
ELECTING MINORITY CANDIDATES.
ELECTING MINORITY CANDIDATES. >>WHAT DID YOU ASK THE COURT FOR
>>WHAT DID YOU ASK THE COURT FOR
>>WHAT DID YOU ASK THE COURT FOR WITH -- WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE
WITH -- WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE
WITH -- WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE PARK DISTRICT, ETCETERA, LATER,
PARK DISTRICT, ETCETERA, LATER,
PARK DISTRICT, ETCETERA, LATER, BUT WITH REGARD TO THE CITY,
BUT WITH REGARD TO THE CITY,
BUT WITH REGARD TO THE CITY, WHAT WAS YOUR HOPE ORIGINALLY IN
WHAT WAS YOUR HOPE ORIGINALLY IN
WHAT WAS YOUR HOPE ORIGINALLY IN THAT LAWSUIT?
THAT LAWSUIT?
THAT LAWSUIT? >> ORIGINALLY, OUR HOPE WAS THAT
>> ORIGINALLY, OUR HOPE WAS THAT
>> ORIGINALLY, OUR HOPE WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TEN DISTRICTS.
WE WOULD HAVE TEN DISTRICTS.
WE WOULD HAVE TEN DISTRICTS. THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED. >> NO AT-LARGE?
>> NO AT-LARGE?
>> NO AT-LARGE? >> NO AT-LARGE AT ALL OF BEFORE
>> NO AT-LARGE AT ALL OF BEFORE
>> NO AT-LARGE AT ALL OF BEFORE WE GOT TO THE COURTS, THE
WE GOT TO THE COURTS, THE
WE GOT TO THE COURTS, THE ATTORNEYS WERE AT THE BARGAINING
ATTORNEYS WERE AT THE BARGAINING
ATTORNEYS WERE AT THE BARGAINING TABLE TRYING TO GET AN AGREEMENT
TABLE TRYING TO GET AN AGREEMENT
TABLE TRYING TO GET AN AGREEMENT REACHED PRIOR TO GOING TO COURT
REACHED PRIOR TO GOING TO COURT
REACHED PRIOR TO GOING TO COURT AND ALL WE COULD GET WAS THE
AND ALL WE COULD GET WAS THE
AND ALL WE COULD GET WAS THE CUMULATIVE VOTING MODEL.
CUMULATIVE VOTING MODEL.
CUMULATIVE VOTING MODEL. BUT THERE WAS AN INSISTENCE THAT
BUT THERE WAS AN INSISTENCE THAT
BUT THERE WAS AN INSISTENCE THAT THE AT-LARGE SEATS REMAIN
THE AT-LARGE SEATS REMAIN
THE AT-LARGE SEATS REMAIN INTACT.
INTACT.
INTACT. AGAIN, WE DID THEN AGREE TO
AGAIN, WE DID THEN AGREE TO
AGAIN, WE DID THEN AGREE TO EXTENDING THAT.
EXTENDING THAT.
EXTENDING THAT. AT THE TIME IT WAS THREE
AT THE TIME IT WAS THREE
AT THE TIME IT WAS THREE AT-LARGE STREETS, AND IT BECAME
AT-LARGE STREETS, AND IT BECAME
AT-LARGE STREETS, AND IT BECAME FIVE AT-LARGE WHICH MEANT THERE
FIVE AT-LARGE WHICH MEANT THERE
FIVE AT-LARGE WHICH MEANT THERE COULD BE A POSSIBILITY WE COULD
COULD BE A POSSIBILITY WE COULD
COULD BE A POSSIBILITY WE COULD GET TWO INDIVIDUALS ON THE
GET TWO INDIVIDUALS ON THE
GET TWO INDIVIDUALS ON THE COUNCIL WITH THAT INSTEAD OF
COUNCIL WITH THAT INSTEAD OF
COUNCIL WITH THAT INSTEAD OF JUST ONE.
JUST ONE.
JUST ONE. WE WENT WITH THE INCREASING BY
WE WENT WITH THE INCREASING BY
WE WENT WITH THE INCREASING BY TWO AT-LARGE SEATS AND
TWO AT-LARGE SEATS AND
TWO AT-LARGE SEATS AND CUMULATIVE VOTING GIVING THE
CUMULATIVE VOTING GIVING THE
CUMULATIVE VOTING GIVING THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO CAST
COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO CAST FIVE VOTES FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL.
COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO CAST FIVE VOTES FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL.
FIVE VOTES FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL. >>AND, DON, FOR THE BENEFIT OF
>>AND, DON, FOR THE BENEFIT OF
>>AND, DON, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR
THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR
THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH CUMULATIVE VOTING, A BRIEF
WITH CUMULATIVE VOTING, A BRIEF
WITH CUMULATIVE VOTING, A BRIEF DESCRIPTION.
DESCRIPTION.
DESCRIPTION. >>IT BASICALLY MEANS EVERY VOTER
>>IT BASICALLY MEANS EVERY VOTER
>>IT BASICALLY MEANS EVERY VOTER HAS FIVE VOTES.
HAS FIVE VOTES.
HAS FIVE VOTES. IN THE AT-LARGE ELECTION.
IN THE AT-LARGE ELECTION.
IN THE AT-LARGE ELECTION. IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE DISTRICT
IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE DISTRICT
IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE DISTRICT ELECTIONS.
ELECTIONS.
ELECTIONS. IT JUST APPLIES TO THE AT-LARGE
IT JUST APPLIES TO THE AT-LARGE
IT JUST APPLIES TO THE AT-LARGE ELECTION.
ELECTION.
ELECTION. IT HAD ALSO, AT THE TIME, DIDN'T
IT HAD ALSO, AT THE TIME, DIDN'T
IT HAD ALSO, AT THE TIME, DIDN'T APPLY TO THE SCHOOL BOARD OR THE
APPLY TO THE SCHOOL BOARD OR THE
APPLY TO THE SCHOOL BOARD OR THE PARK DISTRICT.
PARK DISTRICT.
PARK DISTRICT. JUST THOSE FIVE SEATS.
JUST THOSE FIVE SEATS.
JUST THOSE FIVE SEATS. AND THAT ALLOWED THE VOTER TO
AND THAT ALLOWED THE VOTER TO
AND THAT ALLOWED THE VOTER TO CAST ONE VOTE FOR EACH OF THE
CAST ONE VOTE FOR EACH OF THE
CAST ONE VOTE FOR EACH OF THE FIVE CANDIDATES OF HIS OR HER
FIVE CANDIDATES OF HIS OR HER
FIVE CANDIDATES OF HIS OR HER CHOICE OR THEY COULD CAST ALL
CHOICE OR THEY COULD CAST ALL
CHOICE OR THEY COULD CAST ALL FIVE VOTES FOR ONE CANDIDATE OR
FIVE VOTES FOR ONE CANDIDATE OR
FIVE VOTES FOR ONE CANDIDATE OR THEY COULD SPLIT THEM UP IN ANY
THEY COULD SPLIT THEM UP IN ANY
THEY COULD SPLIT THEM UP IN ANY COMBINATION THEY WANTED, 2-2,
COMBINATION THEY WANTED, 2-2,
COMBINATION THEY WANTED, 2-2, 3-2, THINK WAY THEY WANTED TO
3-2, THINK WAY THEY WANTED TO
3-2, THINK WAY THEY WANTED TO BREAK UP THE FIVE, THE NUMBER
BREAK UP THE FIVE, THE NUMBER
BREAK UP THE FIVE, THE NUMBER FIVE, THEY COULD DO THAT.
FIVE, THEY COULD DO THAT.
FIVE, THEY COULD DO THAT. IT WAS A CLASSIC ONE PERSON FIVE
IT WAS A CLASSIC ONE PERSON FIVE
IT WAS A CLASSIC ONE PERSON FIVE VOTES POLICY THIS.
VOTES POLICY THIS.
VOTES POLICY THIS. >>EXACTLY RIGHT.
>>EXACTLY RIGHT.
>>EXACTLY RIGHT. YES.
YES.
YES. >>SO BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH
>>SO BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH
>>SO BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CITY, A
WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CITY, A
WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CITY, A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL
LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL
LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL BACKGROUND WITH REGARD TO THE
BACKGROUND WITH REGARD TO THE
BACKGROUND WITH REGARD TO THE PARK DISTRICT AND THE SCHOOL
PARK DISTRICT AND THE SCHOOL
PARK DISTRICT AND THE SCHOOL BOARD.
BOARD.
BOARD. >>WELL, IF YOU WILL RECALL,
>>WELL, IF YOU WILL RECALL,
>>WELL, IF YOU WILL RECALL, AT-LARGE WAS THE THEME OF THE
AT-LARGE WAS THE THEME OF THE
AT-LARGE WAS THE THEME OF THE DAY.
DAY.
DAY. AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING AT
AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING AT
AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING AT DISTRICTS IN BOTH THE PARK
DISTRICTS IN BOTH THE PARK
DISTRICTS IN BOTH THE PARK DISTRICT RACES AND THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT RACES AND THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT RACES AND THE SCHOOL BOARD.
BOARD.
BOARD. MY RECOLLECTION, THE ONLY
MY RECOLLECTION, THE ONLY
MY RECOLLECTION, THE ONLY AFRICAN AMERICAN WHO HAD BEEN
AFRICAN AMERICAN WHO HAD BEEN
AFRICAN AMERICAN WHO HAD BEEN ELECT TO THE PARK DISTRICT
ELECT TO THE PARK DISTRICT
ELECT TO THE PARK DISTRICT BEFORE THE CHANGE WAS ADRIAN
BEFORE THE CHANGE WAS ADRIAN
BEFORE THE CHANGE WAS ADRIAN HENNS.
HENNS.
HENNS. >>EXACTLY RIGHT.
>>EXACTLY RIGHT.
>>EXACTLY RIGHT. THERE WAS A COUPLE AFTER THAT.
THERE WAS A COUPLE AFTER THAT.
THERE WAS A COUPLE AFTER THAT. JOHN SOUTH.
JOHN SOUTH.
JOHN SOUTH. THERE WAS SOMEBODY BEFORE BOB
THERE WAS SOMEBODY BEFORE BOB
THERE WAS SOMEBODY BEFORE BOB JOHNSON.
JOHNSON.
JOHNSON. BUT JOHN SOUTH OF ONE OF THOSE
BUT JOHN SOUTH OF ONE OF THOSE
BUT JOHN SOUTH OF ONE OF THOSE THAT CAME LATER.
THAT CAME LATER.
THAT CAME LATER. YES.
YES.
YES. >>AND FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD AND
>>AND FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD AND
>>AND FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE AT-LARGE, THE ONLY PERSON
THE AT-LARGE, THE ONLY PERSON
THE AT-LARGE, THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAD BEEN ELECTED WAS NOW
WHO HAD BEEN ELECTED WAS NOW
WHO HAD BEEN ELECTED WAS NOW JUDGE MARY McDADE WHO.
JUDGE MARY McDADE WHO.
JUDGE MARY McDADE WHO. THERE HAD NOT BEEN AN
THERE HAD NOT BEEN AN
THERE HAD NOT BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY OF AFRICAN AMERICANS
OPPORTUNITY OF AFRICAN AMERICANS
OPPORTUNITY OF AFRICAN AMERICANS GETTING ELECTED.
GETTING ELECTED.
GETTING ELECTED. WE WANTED TO GO TO DISTRICT
WE WANTED TO GO TO DISTRICT
WE WANTED TO GO TO DISTRICT AGAIN LOOKING AT THAT TIME,
AGAIN LOOKING AT THAT TIME,
AGAIN LOOKING AT THAT TIME, PARTICULARLY AT DISTRICT ONE
PARTICULARLY AT DISTRICT ONE
PARTICULARLY AT DISTRICT ONE WHERE THE LARGE SHARE OF AFRICAN
WHERE THE LARGE SHARE OF AFRICAN
WHERE THE LARGE SHARE OF AFRICAN AMERICANS RESIDED SO WE COULD
AMERICANS RESIDED SO WE COULD
AMERICANS RESIDED SO WE COULD ALMOST ENSURE THAT THERE WOULD
ALMOST ENSURE THAT THERE WOULD
ALMOST ENSURE THAT THERE WOULD BE -- ASSURE THERE WOULD BE ONE
BE -- ASSURE THERE WOULD BE ONE
BE -- ASSURE THERE WOULD BE ONE AFRICAN AMERICAN SITTING ON BOTH
AFRICAN AMERICAN SITTING ON BOTH
AFRICAN AMERICAN SITTING ON BOTH OF THOSE BOARDS, GOVERNING
OF THOSE BOARDS, GOVERNING
OF THOSE BOARDS, GOVERNING BOARDS.
BOARDS.
BOARDS. >>IN TERMS OF REPRESENTATION
>>IN TERMS OF REPRESENTATION
>>IN TERMS OF REPRESENTATION FROM THE MINORITY COMMUNITY, IT
FROM THE MINORITY COMMUNITY, IT
FROM THE MINORITY COMMUNITY, IT SEEMS THAT SINCE 1987, BOTH THE
SEEMS THAT SINCE 1987, BOTH THE
SEEMS THAT SINCE 1987, BOTH THE PARK BOARD AND THE SCHOOL
PARK BOARD AND THE SCHOOL
PARK BOARD AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE HAD A FAIR
DISTRICT HAVE HAD A FAIR
DISTRICT HAVE HAD A FAIR COMPLIMENT OF MINORITY
COMPLIMENT OF MINORITY
COMPLIMENT OF MINORITY REPRESENTATION?
REPRESENTATION?
REPRESENTATION? >> WELL, YES.
>> WELL, YES.
>> WELL, YES. THE PARK BOARD HAS HAD TWO SINCE
THE PARK BOARD HAS HAD TWO SINCE
THE PARK BOARD HAS HAD TWO SINCE THEY BROKE IT UP TO THREE,
THEY BROKE IT UP TO THREE,
THEY BROKE IT UP TO THREE, THREE, AND ONE.
THREE, AND ONE.
THREE, AND ONE. ONE -- BOB JOB SON REPRESENTS
ONE -- BOB JOB SON REPRESENTS
ONE -- BOB JOB SON REPRESENTS THE FIRST DISTRICT, AND JACKIE
THE FIRST DISTRICT, AND JACKIE
THE FIRST DISTRICT, AND JACKIE PETTY REPRESENTS THE SECOND
PETTY REPRESENTS THE SECOND
PETTY REPRESENTS THE SECOND DISTRICT.
DISTRICT.
DISTRICT. WE HAVE NEVER HAD A
WE HAVE NEVER HAD A
WE HAVE NEVER HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE THIRD
REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE THIRD
REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE THIRD DISTRICT AFRICAN AMERICAN, FROM
DISTRICT AFRICAN AMERICAN, FROM
DISTRICT AFRICAN AMERICAN, FROM THE THIRD DISTRICT.
THE THIRD DISTRICT.
THE THIRD DISTRICT. AND THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS BEEN
AND THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS BEEN
AND THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS BEEN AGAIN REPRESENTED PRIMARILY FROM
AGAIN REPRESENTED PRIMARILY FROM
AGAIN REPRESENTED PRIMARILY FROM THE SECOND AND THIRD DISTRICT,
THE SECOND AND THIRD DISTRICT,
THE SECOND AND THIRD DISTRICT, ONE FROM THE FIRST DISTRICT,
ONE FROM THE FIRST DISTRICT,
ONE FROM THE FIRST DISTRICT, MARTHA ROSS, AND THEN WE HAVE
MARTHA ROSS, AND THEN WE HAVE
MARTHA ROSS, AND THEN WE HAVE HAD A COMBINATION OF PEOPLE THAT
HAD A COMBINATION OF PEOPLE THAT
HAD A COMBINATION OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME FROM THE SECOND
HAVE COME FROM THE SECOND
HAVE COME FROM THE SECOND DISTRICT THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE
DISTRICT THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE
DISTRICT THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE SCHOOL BOARD AS WE SPEAK.
SCHOOL BOARD AS WE SPEAK.
SCHOOL BOARD AS WE SPEAK. WE HAVE LIN COSTICK.
WE HAVE LIN COSTICK.
WE HAVE LIN COSTICK. >>LINDA BUTLER.
>>LINDA BUTLER.
>>LINDA BUTLER. >>AND LINDA BUTLER ON THE SCHOOL
>>AND LINDA BUTLER ON THE SCHOOL
>>AND LINDA BUTLER ON THE SCHOOL BOARD.
BOARD.
BOARD. AS WELL AS MARTHA?
AS WELL AS MARTHA?
AS WELL AS MARTHA? >> AS WELL AS MARTHA.
>> AS WELL AS MARTHA.
>> AS WELL AS MARTHA. MARTHA FIRST DISTRICT, AND LINDA
MARTHA FIRST DISTRICT, AND LINDA
MARTHA FIRST DISTRICT, AND LINDA BUTLER FROM THE SECOND DISTRICT.
BUTLER FROM THE SECOND DISTRICT.
BUTLER FROM THE SECOND DISTRICT. BACK TO THE CITY, I WANT TO HEAR
BACK TO THE CITY, I WANT TO HEAR
BACK TO THE CITY, I WANT TO HEAR INTEREST BOTH OF YOU, BUT WITH
INTEREST BOTH OF YOU, BUT WITH
INTEREST BOTH OF YOU, BUT WITH REGARD TO CUMULATIVE VOTING AND
REGARD TO CUMULATIVE VOTING AND
REGARD TO CUMULATIVE VOTING AND THE FIVE AT HAD-LARGE SEATS, IN
THE FIVE AT HAD-LARGE SEATS, IN
THE FIVE AT HAD-LARGE SEATS, IN YOUR OPINION, HAS THAT BEEN
YOUR OPINION, HAS THAT BEEN
YOUR OPINION, HAS THAT BEEN SUCCESSFUL?
SUCCESSFUL?
SUCCESSFUL? >> IN MY OPINION, YES.
>> IN MY OPINION, YES.
>> IN MY OPINION, YES. HAD WE NOT HAD THE FIVE SEATS,
HAD WE NOT HAD THE FIVE SEATS,
HAD WE NOT HAD THE FIVE SEATS, THE TOP FOUR, TOP THREE
THE TOP FOUR, TOP THREE
THE TOP FOUR, TOP THREE INDIVIDUALS IN THAT FIRST RACE
INDIVIDUALS IN THAT FIRST RACE
INDIVIDUALS IN THAT FIRST RACE OUT THAT WERE -- WOULD HAVE BEEN
OUT THAT WERE -- WOULD HAVE BEEN
OUT THAT WERE -- WOULD HAVE BEEN SEATED AND WERE SEATED, WERE NOT
SEATED AND WERE SEATED, WERE NOT
SEATED AND WERE SEATED, WERE NOT AFRICAN AMERICANS.
AFRICAN AMERICANS.
AFRICAN AMERICANS. MATT LA DUE CAME IN FOURTH, AND
MATT LA DUE CAME IN FOURTH, AND
MATT LA DUE CAME IN FOURTH, AND SAME THING AGAIN WITH ERIC
SAME THING AGAIN WITH ERIC
SAME THING AGAIN WITH ERIC TURNER HIS FIRST TIME.
TURNER HIS FIRST TIME.
TURNER HIS FIRST TIME. >>1995.
>>1995.
>>1995. >>FIRST TIME AROUND.
>>FIRST TIME AROUND.
>>FIRST TIME AROUND. AFTER THAT, I THINK WE ALL KNOW
AFTER THAT, I THINK WE ALL KNOW
AFTER THAT, I THINK WE ALL KNOW AND POLITICAL SCIENTIST WILL SAY
AND POLITICAL SCIENTIST WILL SAY
AND POLITICAL SCIENTIST WILL SAY ONCE YOU ARE INCUMBENT, YOU HAVE
ONCE YOU ARE INCUMBENT, YOU HAVE
ONCE YOU ARE INCUMBENT, YOU HAVE KIND OF A HEADS UP, AN ADVANTAGE
KIND OF A HEADS UP, AN ADVANTAGE
KIND OF A HEADS UP, AN ADVANTAGE TO SOMEONE A NOVICE RUNNING FOR
TO SOMEONE A NOVICE RUNNING FOR
TO SOMEONE A NOVICE RUNNING FOR THE FIRST TIME.
THE FIRST TIME.
THE FIRST TIME. CERTAINLY AFTER HE HAD BEEN IN
CERTAINLY AFTER HE HAD BEEN IN
CERTAINLY AFTER HE HAD BEEN IN OFFICE FOR FOUR YEARS, AND ERIC
OFFICE FOR FOUR YEARS, AND ERIC
OFFICE FOR FOUR YEARS, AND ERIC TURNER DID HAVE AN ADVANTAGE
TURNER DID HAVE AN ADVANTAGE
TURNER DID HAVE AN ADVANTAGE FROM HAVING SERVED ON THE BOARD.
FROM HAVING SERVED ON THE BOARD.
FROM HAVING SERVED ON THE BOARD. >>HE HAS BEEN ELECTED EACH TIME
>>HE HAS BEEN ELECTED EACH TIME
>>HE HAS BEEN ELECTED EACH TIME SINCE?
SINCE?
SINCE? >> HE HAS.
>> HE HAS.
>> HE HAS. >>DON JACKSON, YOUR OPINION, HAS
>>DON JACKSON, YOUR OPINION, HAS
>>DON JACKSON, YOUR OPINION, HAS CUMULATIVE VOTING WITH FIVE AT
CUMULATIVE VOTING WITH FIVE AT
CUMULATIVE VOTING WITH FIVE AT AT-LARGE SEATS BEEN A SUCCESS?
AT-LARGE SEATS BEEN A SUCCESS?
AT-LARGE SEATS BEEN A SUCCESS? >> IN TERMS OF EXCLUSIVELY
>> IN TERMS OF EXCLUSIVELY
>> IN TERMS OF EXCLUSIVELY FOCUSING ON OT AFRICAN AMERICAN
FOCUSING ON OT AFRICAN AMERICAN
FOCUSING ON OT AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, PERHAPS I WOULD AGREE
COMMUNITY, PERHAPS I WOULD AGREE
COMMUNITY, PERHAPS I WOULD AGREE WITH JOYCE THE FIRST TIME
WITH JOYCE THE FIRST TIME
WITH JOYCE THE FIRST TIME AROUND, BUT SINCE THEN, I WOULD
AROUND, BUT SINCE THEN, I WOULD
AROUND, BUT SINCE THEN, I WOULD SAY NO BECAUSE IT HAS BENEFITED
SAY NO BECAUSE IT HAS BENEFITED
SAY NO BECAUSE IT HAS BENEFITED MEMBERS OF THE NON-AFRICAN
MEMBERS OF THE NON-AFRICAN
MEMBERS OF THE NON-AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNE KI MORE THAN IT
AMERICAN COMMUNE KI MORE THAN IT
AMERICAN COMMUNE KI MORE THAN IT HAS US.
HAS US.
HAS US. I THINK WHEN GARY SANDBURG FOR
I THINK WHEN GARY SANDBURG FOR
I THINK WHEN GARY SANDBURG FOR EXAMPLE, FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO
EXAMPLE, FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO
EXAMPLE, FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT AND DECIDED TO LEAST SECOND
IT AND DECIDED TO LEAST SECOND
IT AND DECIDED TO LEAST SECOND DISTRICT, AS THE DISTRICT
DISTRICT, AS THE DISTRICT
DISTRICT, AS THE DISTRICT COUNCILMAN AND RUN FOR THE
COUNCILMAN AND RUN FOR THE
COUNCILMAN AND RUN FOR THE AT-LARGE SEAT, TWO YEARS AFTER
AT-LARGE SEAT, TWO YEARS AFTER
AT-LARGE SEAT, TWO YEARS AFTER HE HAD BEEN ELECTED DISTRICT
HE HAD BEEN ELECTED DISTRICT
HE HAD BEEN ELECTED DISTRICT COUNCILMAN, HE HAD FIGURED OUT I
COUNCILMAN, HE HAD FIGURED OUT I
COUNCILMAN, HE HAD FIGURED OUT I COULD GET MORE VOTES DOING THE
COULD GET MORE VOTES DOING THE
COULD GET MORE VOTES DOING THE CUMULATIVE VOTING WAY THAN I CAN
CUMULATIVE VOTING WAY THAN I CAN
CUMULATIVE VOTING WAY THAN I CAN OTHERWISE.
OTHERWISE.
OTHERWISE. SO HE SWITCHED OVER TO BECOME
SO HE SWITCHED OVER TO BECOME
SO HE SWITCHED OVER TO BECOME THE AT-LARGE REPRESENTATIVE FOR
THE AT-LARGE REPRESENTATIVE FOR
THE AT-LARGE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CITY INSTEAD OF THE SECOND
THE CITY INSTEAD OF THE SECOND
THE CITY INSTEAD OF THE SECOND DISTRICT.
DISTRICT.
DISTRICT. SO IT HAS WORKED WELL FOR HIM.
SO IT HAS WORKED WELL FOR HIM.
SO IT HAS WORKED WELL FOR HIM. I AM TOLD, AND I DIDN'T KNOW
I AM TOLD, AND I DIDN'T KNOW
I AM TOLD, AND I DIDN'T KNOW THIS, BUT I AM TOLD THAT CHUCK
THIS, BUT I AM TOLD THAT CHUCK
THIS, BUT I AM TOLD THAT CHUCK WEAVER HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL
WEAVER HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL
WEAVER HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL USING THE CIVIL AS WELL.
USING THE CIVIL AS WELL.
USING THE CIVIL AS WELL. HE WAS THE TOP -- WHEN YOU
HE WAS THE TOP -- WHEN YOU
HE WAS THE TOP -- WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE PLUMP VOTE IN THE
CONSIDER THE PLUMP VOTE IN THE
CONSIDER THE PLUMP VOTE IN THE PLUMP VOTE WHEN SOMEONE CASTS
PLUMP VOTE WHEN SOMEONE CASTS
PLUMP VOTE WHEN SOMEONE CASTS ALL FIVE VOTES FOR ONE
ALL FIVE VOTES FOR ONE
ALL FIVE VOTES FOR ONE CANDIDATE.
CANDIDATE.
CANDIDATE. PLUM PERCENT, HE WAS NUMBER ONE
PLUM PERCENT, HE WAS NUMBER ONE
PLUM PERCENT, HE WAS NUMBER ONE IN ATTRACTING PLUMPERS AT THE
IN ATTRACTING PLUMPERS AT THE
IN ATTRACTING PLUMPERS AT THE POLL.
POLL.
POLL. >>I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO
>>I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO
>>I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO DR. LARRY ASPEN AT BRADLEY
DR. LARRY ASPEN AT BRADLEY
DR. LARRY ASPEN AT BRADLEY UNIVERSITY, AND HE HAS STUDIED
UNIVERSITY, AND HE HAS STUDIED
UNIVERSITY, AND HE HAS STUDIED AT LENGTH, THE ELECTIONS EVER
AT LENGTH, THE ELECTIONS EVER
AT LENGTH, THE ELECTIONS EVER SINCE THE LAWSUIT THAT WAS FILED
SINCE THE LAWSUIT THAT WAS FILED
SINCE THE LAWSUIT THAT WAS FILED BACK IN 1987.
BACK IN 1987.
BACK IN 1987. HIS NUMBERS SHOW THAT THE
HIS NUMBERS SHOW THAT THE
HIS NUMBERS SHOW THAT THE MINORITY CANDIDATES HAVE NOT
MINORITY CANDIDATES HAVE NOT
MINORITY CANDIDATES HAVE NOT DONE WELL IN ATTRACTING THOSE
DONE WELL IN ATTRACTING THOSE
DONE WELL IN ATTRACTING THOSE PLUMPERS.
PLUMPERS.
PLUMPERS. THEY HAVE NOT ATTRACTED THE
THEY HAVE NOT ATTRACTED THE
THEY HAVE NOT ATTRACTED THE BULLET VOTE SO TO SPEAK.
BULLET VOTE SO TO SPEAK.
BULLET VOTE SO TO SPEAK. GARY SANDBURG TRADITIONALLY HAS
GARY SANDBURG TRADITIONALLY HAS
GARY SANDBURG TRADITIONALLY HAS BEEN THE HIGHEST ONE IN THE LAST
BEEN THE HIGHEST ONE IN THE LAST
BEEN THE HIGHEST ONE IN THE LAST ELECTION IT WAS CHUCK WEAVER,
ELECTION IT WAS CHUCK WEAVER,
ELECTION IT WAS CHUCK WEAVER, AND THEN YOU SEE OTHER MAJORITY
AND THEN YOU SEE OTHER MAJORITY
AND THEN YOU SEE OTHER MAJORITY CANDIDATES WHO HAVE DONE WELL IN
CANDIDATES WHO HAVE DONE WELL IN
CANDIDATES WHO HAVE DONE WELL IN THAT REGARD.
THAT REGARD.
THAT REGARD. SO DR. ASPEN SUGGESTS THAT IT
SO DR. ASPEN SUGGESTS THAT IT
SO DR. ASPEN SUGGESTS THAT IT HAS BEEN A SUCCESS, BUT HE SAYS
HAS BEEN A SUCCESS, BUT HE SAYS
HAS BEEN A SUCCESS, BUT HE SAYS IT IS A SUCCESS BECAUSE OUR
IT IS A SUCCESS BECAUSE OUR
IT IS A SUCCESS BECAUSE OUR EXPECTATIONS WERE TOO HIGH AT
EXPECTATIONS WERE TOO HIGH AT
EXPECTATIONS WERE TOO HIGH AT THE BEGINNING.
THE BEGINNING.
THE BEGINNING. WE EXPECTED MORE CANDIDATES TO
WE EXPECTED MORE CANDIDATES TO
WE EXPECTED MORE CANDIDATES TO BE ELECTED, MORE MINORITY
BE ELECTED, MORE MINORITY
BE ELECTED, MORE MINORITY PREFERRED CANDIDATES TO BE
PREFERRED CANDIDATES TO BE
PREFERRED CANDIDATES TO BE ELECTED.
ELECTED.
ELECTED. IS THAT -- DO YOU THINK THAT
IS THAT -- DO YOU THINK THAT
IS THAT -- DO YOU THINK THAT THAT IS THE CASE THAT MINORITY
THAT IS THE CASE THAT MINORITY
THAT IS THE CASE THAT MINORITY COMMUNITY MADE TOO HIGH OF AN
COMMUNITY MADE TOO HIGH OF AN
COMMUNITY MADE TOO HIGH OF AN EXPECTATION?
EXPECTATION?
EXPECTATION? >> I DON'T THINK SO.
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
>> I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK WE WANTED -- TO SAY THAT
I THINK WE WANTED -- TO SAY THAT
I THINK WE WANTED -- TO SAY THAT WE WANTED ONE PERSON ON THERE IS
WE WANTED ONE PERSON ON THERE IS
WE WANTED ONE PERSON ON THERE IS NOT HIGH EXPECTATIONS TO ME.
NOT HIGH EXPECTATIONS TO ME.
NOT HIGH EXPECTATIONS TO ME. THAT'S NOT HIGH TO THINK THAT WE
THAT'S NOT HIGH TO THINK THAT WE
THAT'S NOT HIGH TO THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE THREE TO FOUR, THEN
WOULD HAVE THREE TO FOUR, THEN
WOULD HAVE THREE TO FOUR, THEN THAT WOULD BE HIGH EXPECTATIONS.
THAT WOULD BE HIGH EXPECTATIONS.
THAT WOULD BE HIGH EXPECTATIONS. SO I DON'T THINK SO.
SO I DON'T THINK SO.
SO I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK WE HAVE HAD A MINORITY
I THINK WE HAVE HAD A MINORITY
I THINK WE HAVE HAD A MINORITY THE -- AN AFRICAN AMERICAN
THE -- AN AFRICAN AMERICAN
THE -- AN AFRICAN AMERICAN SITTING ON THE COUNCIL SINCE
SITTING ON THE COUNCIL SINCE
SITTING ON THE COUNCIL SINCE CUMULATIVE VOTING.
CUMULATIVE VOTING.
CUMULATIVE VOTING. WE HAVE HAD AFRICAN AMERICANS
WE HAVE HAD AFRICAN AMERICANS
WE HAVE HAD AFRICAN AMERICANS SITTING ON THE PARK DISTRICT AND
SITTING ON THE PARK DISTRICT AND
SITTING ON THE PARK DISTRICT AND ON THE SCHOOL BOARD SINCE THE
ON THE SCHOOL BOARD SINCE THE
ON THE SCHOOL BOARD SINCE THE LAWSUIT.
LAWSUIT.
LAWSUIT. SO WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT
SO WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT
SO WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS A VOICE THERE.
THERE WAS A VOICE THERE.
THERE WAS A VOICE THERE. WE HAVE TO -- AND I SAY WE OWN
WE HAVE TO -- AND I SAY WE OWN
WE HAVE TO -- AND I SAY WE OWN UP TO THE FACT AND TAKENNER SHIP
UP TO THE FACT AND TAKENNER SHIP
UP TO THE FACT AND TAKENNER SHIP THAT WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS HAD THE
THAT WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS HAD THE
THAT WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS HAD THE BEST INDIVIDUALS RUNNING AS THE
BEST INDIVIDUALS RUNNING AS THE
BEST INDIVIDUALS RUNNING AS THE CANDIDATES.
CANDIDATES.
CANDIDATES. SO WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME
SO WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME
SO WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT AS WELL.
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT AS WELL.
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT AS WELL. TO SAY THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE
TO SAY THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE
TO SAY THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED AT THE PLUMP VOTE AS YOU
LOOKED AT THE PLUMP VOTE AS YOU
LOOKED AT THE PLUMP VOTE AS YOU CALLED IT AND TUESDAY TO THEIR
CALLED IT AND TUESDAY TO THEIR
CALLED IT AND TUESDAY TO THEIR ADVANTAGE, WORD IS O OUT THERE
ADVANTAGE, WORD IS O OUT THERE
ADVANTAGE, WORD IS O OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE, TO USE, AND SOME
FOR EVERYONE, TO USE, AND SOME
FOR EVERYONE, TO USE, AND SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE SKILLED THAN
PEOPLE ARE MORE SKILLED THAN
PEOPLE ARE MORE SKILLED THAN OTHERS HAD IN ATTRACTING THAT
OTHERS HAD IN ATTRACTING THAT
OTHERS HAD IN ATTRACTING THAT CORE THAT WILL USE THAT.
CORE THAT WILL USE THAT.
CORE THAT WILL USE THAT. BUT OVER ALL, I THINK WE
BUT OVER ALL, I THINK WE
BUT OVER ALL, I THINK WE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT WE SET OUT TO
ACCOMPLISHED WHAT WE SET OUT TO
ACCOMPLISHED WHAT WE SET OUT TO DO.
DO.
DO. >>JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, EXCUSE
>>JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, EXCUSE
>>JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT WHEN
ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT WHEN
ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT WHEN JOYCE REFERS TO ONE MINORITY
JOYCE REFERS TO ONE MINORITY
JOYCE REFERS TO ONE MINORITY CANDIDATE ON THE COUNCIL, SHE
CANDIDATE ON THE COUNCIL, SHE
CANDIDATE ON THE COUNCIL, SHE MEANS ONE AT-LARGE BECAUSE IT
MEANS ONE AT-LARGE BECAUSE IT
MEANS ONE AT-LARGE BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN MINORITY, CLYDE GILL
HAS BEEN MINORITY, CLYDE GILL
HAS BEEN MINORITY, CLYDE GILL REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FIRST
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FIRST
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FIRST DISTRICT.
DISTRICT.
DISTRICT. >>CORRECT.
>>CORRECT.
>>CORRECT. TO THE EX TENT WE WERE ABLE TO
TO THE EX TENT WE WERE ABLE TO
TO THE EX TENT WE WERE ABLE TO ELECT MINORITY REPRESENTATION TO
ELECT MINORITY REPRESENTATION TO
ELECT MINORITY REPRESENTATION TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE PARK
THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE PARK
THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE PARK DISTRICT, IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL
DISTRICT, IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL
DISTRICT, IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED
AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED
AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED ALTHOUGH IT HAS BEEN CONFINED TO
ALTHOUGH IT HAS BEEN CONFINED TO
ALTHOUGH IT HAS BEEN CONFINED TO JUST TWO AREAS.
JUST TWO AREAS.
JUST TWO AREAS. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH AFRICAN
IT SEEMS AS THOUGH AFRICAN
IT SEEMS AS THOUGH AFRICAN AMERICANS STILL CANNOT GET THE
AMERICANS STILL CANNOT GET THE
AMERICANS STILL CANNOT GET THE SUPPORT OF, AND GOOD CANDIDATES
SUPPORT OF, AND GOOD CANDIDATES
SUPPORT OF, AND GOOD CANDIDATES OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE THIRD
OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE THIRD
OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE THIRD DISTRICT AND EITHER ONE OF THOSE
DISTRICT AND EITHER ONE OF THOSE
DISTRICT AND EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO RACES.
TWO RACES.
TWO RACES. BUT AS FAR AS THE COUNCIL IS
BUT AS FAR AS THE COUNCIL IS
BUT AS FAR AS THE COUNCIL IS CONCERNED, I REMEMBER GERALD
CONCERNED, I REMEMBER GERALD
CONCERNED, I REMEMBER GERALD FISHER RAN, AND HE RAN BEHIND ME
FISHER RAN, AND HE RAN BEHIND ME
FISHER RAN, AND HE RAN BEHIND ME IN THE ELECTION YOU MENTIONED
IN THE ELECTION YOU MENTIONED
IN THE ELECTION YOU MENTIONED EARLIER.
EARLIER.
EARLIER. HE WAS NUMBER FIVE, AND I WAS
HE WAS NUMBER FIVE, AND I WAS
HE WAS NUMBER FIVE, AND I WAS NUMBER FOUR.
NUMBER FOUR.
NUMBER FOUR. BUT WITH CLYDE AND HIS
BUT WITH CLYDE AND HIS
BUT WITH CLYDE AND HIS PREDECESSORS IN THE FIRST
PREDECESSORS IN THE FIRST
PREDECESSORS IN THE FIRST DISTRICT, WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD ONE
DISTRICT, WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD ONE
DISTRICT, WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD ONE ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
ON THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL
BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL
BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING ANYBODY ELECTED
IN GETTING ANYBODY ELECTED
IN GETTING ANYBODY ELECTED AT-LARGE BECAUSE I STILL DON'T
AT-LARGE BECAUSE I STILL DON'T
AT-LARGE BECAUSE I STILL DON'T THINK THAT IT HAS WORKED
THINK THAT IT HAS WORKED
THINK THAT IT HAS WORKED FAVORABLY AS FAR AS WHEN WE TALK
FAVORABLY AS FAR AS WHEN WE TALK
FAVORABLY AS FAR AS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUCCESS, IT WAS REASONABLE
ABOUT SUCCESS, IT WAS REASONABLE
ABOUT SUCCESS, IT WAS REASONABLE FOR US TO EXPECT TO GET ONE
FOR US TO EXPECT TO GET ONE
FOR US TO EXPECT TO GET ONE ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBER FROM
ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBER FROM
ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBER FROM THE AT-LARGE IN ADDITION TO WHAT
THE AT-LARGE IN ADDITION TO WHAT
THE AT-LARGE IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAD IN THE FIRST DISTRICT.
WE HAD IN THE FIRST DISTRICT.
WE HAD IN THE FIRST DISTRICT. THAT WAS A REASONABLE
THAT WAS A REASONABLE
THAT WAS A REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS.
EXPECTATIONS.
EXPECTATIONS. I DON'T THINK IT WAS AN
I DON'T THINK IT WAS AN
I DON'T THINK IT WAS AN EXAGGERATED EXPECTATION AT ALL.
EXAGGERATED EXPECTATION AT ALL.
EXAGGERATED EXPECTATION AT ALL. HASN'T WORKED OUT THAT WAY, BUT
HASN'T WORKED OUT THAT WAY, BUT
HASN'T WORKED OUT THAT WAY, BUT I THINK IT WAS VERY REASONABLE
I THINK IT WAS VERY REASONABLE
I THINK IT WAS VERY REASONABLE EXPECTATION.
EXPECTATION.
EXPECTATION. >>I DID NOT MEAN -- LET ME
>>I DID NOT MEAN -- LET ME
>>I DID NOT MEAN -- LET ME CORRECT -- I DID MEAN WE HAVE
CORRECT -- I DID MEAN WE HAVE
CORRECT -- I DID MEAN WE HAVE HAD -- IF WE LOOK AT THE FIRST
HAD -- IF WE LOOK AT THE FIRST
HAD -- IF WE LOOK AT THE FIRST DISTRICT, AND I RAN FOR THE
DISTRICT, AND I RAN FOR THE
DISTRICT, AND I RAN FOR THE FIRST DISTRICT, JIM POLK AND I
FIRST DISTRICT, JIM POLK AND I
FIRST DISTRICT, JIM POLK AND I WERE THE TWO WHO CAME OUT OF THE
WERE THE TWO WHO CAME OUT OF THE
WERE THE TWO WHO CAME OUT OF THE PRIMARY.
PRIMARY.
PRIMARY. SO HE WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN
SO HE WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN
SO HE WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN TO SIT -- TO BE ELECTED
AMERICAN TO SIT -- TO BE ELECTED
AMERICAN TO SIT -- TO BE ELECTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THEN AFTER JIM POLK WAS ANDRE
THEN AFTER JIM POLK WAS ANDRE
THEN AFTER JIM POLK WAS ANDRE BOHANAN, AND NOW CLYDE GULLY.
BOHANAN, AND NOW CLYDE GULLY.
BOHANAN, AND NOW CLYDE GULLY. WE HAVEN'T HAD -- A LONG.
WE HAVEN'T HAD -- A LONG.
WE HAVEN'T HAD -- A LONG. >>NOT A LONG HISTORY.
>>NOT A LONG HISTORY.
>>NOT A LONG HISTORY. KENNY SHEPHERD WAS BEFORE.
KENNY SHEPHERD WAS BEFORE.
KENNY SHEPHERD WAS BEFORE. >>AND JOE MUD.
>>AND JOE MUD.
>>AND JOE MUD. I REMEMBER JOE MUD SAT IN THOSE
I REMEMBER JOE MUD SAT IN THOSE
I REMEMBER JOE MUD SAT IN THOSE SEATS PRIOR.
SEATS PRIOR.
SEATS PRIOR. IS PART OF THE PROBLEM VOTER
IS PART OF THE PROBLEM VOTER
IS PART OF THE PROBLEM VOTER TURNOUT?
TURNOUT?
TURNOUT? IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THE
IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THE
IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY HAS
AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY HAS
AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY HAS 20% IN ROUND NUMBERS, 20% OF THE
20% IN ROUND NUMBERS, 20% OF THE
20% IN ROUND NUMBERS, 20% OF THE PEORIA POPULATION, YET, THE
PEORIA POPULATION, YET, THE
PEORIA POPULATION, YET, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ONLY
AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ONLY
AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ONLY HAS 12 PERCENT OF THE VOTING
HAS 12 PERCENT OF THE VOTING
HAS 12 PERCENT OF THE VOTING POPULATION, IN OTHER WORDS
POPULATION, IN OTHER WORDS
POPULATION, IN OTHER WORDS TURNOUT IS LOWER FOR AFRICAN
TURNOUT IS LOWER FOR AFRICAN
TURNOUT IS LOWER FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN PRECINCTS THAN IT IS
AMERICAN PRECINCTS THAN IT IS
AMERICAN PRECINCTS THAN IT IS FOR THE WHITE PRECINCTS OR WHITE
FOR THE WHITE PRECINCTS OR WHITE
FOR THE WHITE PRECINCTS OR WHITE DOMINATED PRECINCT.
DOMINATED PRECINCT.
DOMINATED PRECINCT. IS THERE SOME WAY TO INCREASE
IS THERE SOME WAY TO INCREASE
IS THERE SOME WAY TO INCREASE THAT OR IS THAT --
THAT OR IS THAT --
THAT OR IS THAT -- >>LOOK AT THE RACES, WHEN
>>LOOK AT THE RACES, WHEN
>>LOOK AT THE RACES, WHEN PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA WAS THE
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA WAS THE
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA WAS THE CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT,
CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT,
CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, LOOK AT THE ELECTION.
LOOK AT THE ELECTION.
LOOK AT THE ELECTION. WITH JEHAN GORDON, LOOK AT THE
WITH JEHAN GORDON, LOOK AT THE
WITH JEHAN GORDON, LOOK AT THE NUMBERS WHO TURNOUT.
NUMBERS WHO TURNOUT.
NUMBERS WHO TURNOUT. THERE IS A SENSE SOMETIMES I
THERE IS A SENSE SOMETIMES I
THERE IS A SENSE SOMETIMES I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER
THINK THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER
THINK THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF VOTING
WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF VOTING
WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF VOTING AND PUTTING PEOPLE IN OFFICE.
AND PUTTING PEOPLE IN OFFICE.
AND PUTTING PEOPLE IN OFFICE. THERE IS SO MUCH AN INDIVIDUAL
THERE IS SO MUCH AN INDIVIDUAL
THERE IS SO MUCH AN INDIVIDUAL CAN DO, AND THAT IS THERE IS
CAN DO, AND THAT IS THERE IS
CAN DO, AND THAT IS THERE IS SOME TRUTH TO THAT.
SOME TRUTH TO THAT.
SOME TRUTH TO THAT. BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE ELECTION
BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE ELECTION
BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE ELECTION AND DEPENDS ON THE CANDIDATE AS
AND DEPENDS ON THE CANDIDATE AS
AND DEPENDS ON THE CANDIDATE AS WELL.
WELL.
WELL. I THINK THAT'S IS WITH MOST
I THINK THAT'S IS WITH MOST
I THINK THAT'S IS WITH MOST PEOPLE.
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. WE DO SEE SOME FOLK BENEFITING
WE DO SEE SOME FOLK BENEFITING
WE DO SEE SOME FOLK BENEFITING GREATLY FROM WHEN THEY RUN, AND
GREATLY FROM WHEN THEY RUN, AND
GREATLY FROM WHEN THEY RUN, AND OTHERS WHO HAVE NOT SOLD
OTHERS WHO HAVE NOT SOLD
OTHERS WHO HAVE NOT SOLD THEMSELVES TO THE AFRICAN
THEMSELVES TO THE AFRICAN
THEMSELVES TO THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
AMERICAN COMMUNITY. >>I THINK THERE IS ANOTHER
>>I THINK THERE IS ANOTHER
>>I THINK THERE IS ANOTHER DYNAMIC THAT WORKS AS WELL.
DYNAMIC THAT WORKS AS WELL.
DYNAMIC THAT WORKS AS WELL. CAN WE DO BETTER?
CAN WE DO BETTER?
CAN WE DO BETTER? YES.
YES.
YES. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THE
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THE
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THE N.A.A.C.P. IS WORKING ON.
N.A.A.C.P. IS WORKING ON.
N.A.A.C.P. IS WORKING ON. WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE AND VERY
WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE AND VERY
WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE AND VERY STRONG CANDIDATES CANDIDATE --
STRONG CANDIDATES CANDIDATE --
STRONG CANDIDATES CANDIDATE -- OR O CAMPAIGN, RATHER, TO MAKE
OR O CAMPAIGN, RATHER, TO MAKE
OR O CAMPAIGN, RATHER, TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE REGISTERED TO
SURE PEOPLE ARE REGISTERED TO
SURE PEOPLE ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE, MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND
VOTE, MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND
VOTE, MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES, AND THEN DURING THE
THE ISSUES, AND THEN DURING THE
THE ISSUES, AND THEN DURING THE ELECTION CYCLE, MAKE SURE THEY
ELECTION CYCLE, MAKE SURE THEY
ELECTION CYCLE, MAKE SURE THEY GET OUT TO, IN FACT, VOTE OF HOW
GET OUT TO, IN FACT, VOTE OF HOW
GET OUT TO, IN FACT, VOTE OF HOW THEY VOTE IS THEIR BUSINESS.
THEY VOTE IS THEIR BUSINESS.
THEY VOTE IS THEIR BUSINESS. BUT JUST TO GET THEM TO THE
BUT JUST TO GET THEM TO THE
BUT JUST TO GET THEM TO THE POLLS TO EXERCISE FRANCHISE IS
POLLS TO EXERCISE FRANCHISE IS
POLLS TO EXERCISE FRANCHISE IS ONE OF OUR MAIN GOALS.
ONE OF OUR MAIN GOALS.
ONE OF OUR MAIN GOALS. IF YOU LOOK BACK, PEORIA USED TO
IF YOU LOOK BACK, PEORIA USED TO
IF YOU LOOK BACK, PEORIA USED TO BE A VERY -- FROM THE AFRICAN
BE A VERY -- FROM THE AFRICAN
BE A VERY -- FROM THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY STANDPOINT,
AMERICAN COMMUNITY STANDPOINT,
AMERICAN COMMUNITY STANDPOINT, USED TO BE A VERY CONCISE
USED TO BE A VERY CONCISE
USED TO BE A VERY CONCISE COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY. WE TRULY WERE A VILLAGE.
WE TRULY WERE A VILLAGE.
WE TRULY WERE A VILLAGE. YOU COULD -- YOU PROBABLY
YOU COULD -- YOU PROBABLY
YOU COULD -- YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST CAME R
REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST CAME R
REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST CAME R IN, YOU KNEW EVERYBODY IN THE
IN, YOU KNEW EVERYBODY IN THE
IN, YOU KNEW EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF PEORIA WHO WAS AFRICAN
CITY OF PEORIA WHO WAS AFRICAN
CITY OF PEORIA WHO WAS AFRICAN AMERICAN AND WHERE THEY LIVED.
AMERICAN AND WHERE THEY LIVED.
AMERICAN AND WHERE THEY LIVED. THEY LIVED IN THE SOUTH SIDE,
THEY LIVED IN THE SOUTH SIDE,
THEY LIVED IN THE SOUTH SIDE, NORTH END, AND THEN OUT IN THE
NORTH END, AND THEN OUT IN THE
NORTH END, AND THEN OUT IN THE PLACE CALLED PEORIA HEIGHTS
PLACE CALLED PEORIA HEIGHTS
PLACE CALLED PEORIA HEIGHTS WHICH WE CALL THE RACETRACK.
WHICH WE CALL THE RACETRACK.
WHICH WE CALL THE RACETRACK. THOSE WERE THE THREE AREAS OF
THOSE WERE THE THREE AREAS OF
THOSE WERE THE THREE AREAS OF CONCENTRATION OF AFRICAN
CONCENTRATION OF AFRICAN
CONCENTRATION OF AFRICAN AMERICANS.
AMERICANS.
AMERICANS. YOU KNEW EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.
YOU KNEW EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.
YOU KNEW EVERYBODY IN THE CITY. THERE HAS BEEN A WHOLE CHANGE IN
THERE HAS BEEN A WHOLE CHANGE IN
THERE HAS BEEN A WHOLE CHANGE IN THE DYNAMICS.
THE DYNAMICS.
THE DYNAMICS. THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE
THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE
THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE MIGRATE TODAY PEORIA WHO HAVE
MIGRATE TODAY PEORIA WHO HAVE
MIGRATE TODAY PEORIA WHO HAVE NEVER BOUGHT INTO WHAT INTEREST
NEVER BOUGHT INTO WHAT INTEREST
NEVER BOUGHT INTO WHAT INTEREST PEORIA HAS.
PEORIA HAS.
PEORIA HAS. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE HERE,
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE HERE,
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE HERE, BUT STILL HAVE NOT BOUGHT INTO
BUT STILL HAVE NOT BOUGHT INTO
BUT STILL HAVE NOT BOUGHT INTO THE COMMUNITY ENOUGH TO WORRY
THE COMMUNITY ENOUGH TO WORRY
THE COMMUNITY ENOUGH TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING OUT TO VOTE.
ABOUT GETTING OUT TO VOTE.
ABOUT GETTING OUT TO VOTE. THOSE ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT
THOSE ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT
THOSE ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT PEOPLE TO ENCOURAGE TO GET OUT
PEOPLE TO ENCOURAGE TO GET OUT
PEOPLE TO ENCOURAGE TO GET OUT TO VOTE.
TO VOTE.
TO VOTE. SO I THINK YOU GOT THAT DYNAMIC
SO I THINK YOU GOT THAT DYNAMIC
SO I THINK YOU GOT THAT DYNAMIC PLAN IN PEORIA AS WELL.
PLAN IN PEORIA AS WELL.
PLAN IN PEORIA AS WELL. I AM NOT SURE HOW YOU SELL THAT
I AM NOT SURE HOW YOU SELL THAT
I AM NOT SURE HOW YOU SELL THAT PROBLEM -- I AM NOT SURE HOW YOU
PROBLEM -- I AM NOT SURE HOW YOU
PROBLEM -- I AM NOT SURE HOW YOU SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. MAYBE YOU HAVE ANSWERS JOYCE.
MAYBE YOU HAVE ANSWERS JOYCE.
MAYBE YOU HAVE ANSWERS JOYCE. >>WHEN I WAS IN THE COLLEGE IN
>>WHEN I WAS IN THE COLLEGE IN
>>WHEN I WAS IN THE COLLEGE IN 70'S, CATERPILLAR WOULD RECRUIT
70'S, CATERPILLAR WOULD RECRUIT
70'S, CATERPILLAR WOULD RECRUIT IT HEAVILY ON AFRICAN AMERICAN
IT HEAVILY ON AFRICAN AMERICAN
IT HEAVILY ON AFRICAN AMERICAN CAMPUSES TO.
CAMPUSES TO.
CAMPUSES TO. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOME, IT
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOME, IT
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOME, IT WASN'T PEORIA, IT WAS SOMEWHERE
WASN'T PEORIA, IT WAS SOMEWHERE
WASN'T PEORIA, IT WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
ELSE.
ELSE. GETTING INVOLVED IN THE
GETTING INVOLVED IN THE
GETTING INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND PEORIA ACTUALLY
COMMUNITY AND PEORIA ACTUALLY
COMMUNITY AND PEORIA ACTUALLY BEING HOME TO FOLK.
BEING HOME TO FOLK.
BEING HOME TO FOLK. THE OTHER THING I HEARD TIME AND
THE OTHER THING I HEARD TIME AND
THE OTHER THING I HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN IS THE WHOLE CARVER
TIME AGAIN IS THE WHOLE CARVER
TIME AGAIN IS THE WHOLE CARVER CENTER, PEOPLE THAT GREW UP
CENTER, PEOPLE THAT GREW UP
CENTER, PEOPLE THAT GREW UP THROUGH THEM AND WHAT IT MEANT
THROUGH THEM AND WHAT IT MEANT
THROUGH THEM AND WHAT IT MEANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND BEING ABLE
TO THE COMMUNITY AND BEING ABLE
TO THE COMMUNITY AND BEING ABLE TO SOCIALIZE.
TO SOCIALIZE.
TO SOCIALIZE. BUT MOVING TO PEORIA, A LOST
BUT MOVING TO PEORIA, A LOST
BUT MOVING TO PEORIA, A LOST AFRICAN AMERICAN PROFESSIONALS
AFRICAN AMERICAN PROFESSIONALS
AFRICAN AMERICAN PROFESSIONALS MOVE TO OTHER AREAS, AND THERE
MOVE TO OTHER AREAS, AND THERE
MOVE TO OTHER AREAS, AND THERE WASN'T THAT COMMUNITY THAT YOU
WASN'T THAT COMMUNITY THAT YOU
WASN'T THAT COMMUNITY THAT YOU KNOW SO WELL THAT WAS STILL
KNOW SO WELL THAT WAS STILL
KNOW SO WELL THAT WAS STILL INTACT WHEN I MOVED HERE.
INTACT WHEN I MOVED HERE.
INTACT WHEN I MOVED HERE. BUT, AGAIN, WE HAD -- THERE WAS
BUT, AGAIN, WE HAD -- THERE WAS
BUT, AGAIN, WE HAD -- THERE WAS CONCENTRATED VOTER EDUCATION AND
CONCENTRATED VOTER EDUCATION AND
CONCENTRATED VOTER EDUCATION AND TURNOUT MUCH LIKE WHAT THE
TURNOUT MUCH LIKE WHAT THE
TURNOUT MUCH LIKE WHAT THE N.A.A.C.P. IS DOING CURRENTLY.
N.A.A.C.P. IS DOING CURRENTLY.
N.A.A.C.P. IS DOING CURRENTLY. MORE OF THAT HAS TO BE DONE TO,
MORE OF THAT HAS TO BE DONE TO,
MORE OF THAT HAS TO BE DONE TO, AGAIN -- BECAUSE WE TORE GET OUR
AGAIN -- BECAUSE WE TORE GET OUR
AGAIN -- BECAUSE WE TORE GET OUR HISTORY.
HISTORY.
HISTORY. WE REALLY FORGET OUR HISTORY AND
WE REALLY FORGET OUR HISTORY AND
WE REALLY FORGET OUR HISTORY AND BEING ABLE TO SHARE WITH
BEING ABLE TO SHARE WITH
BEING ABLE TO SHARE WITH INDIVIDUALS TODAY SOME OF THE
INDIVIDUALS TODAY SOME OF THE
INDIVIDUALS TODAY SOME OF THE HARDSHIPS AND THE PAINS ENDURED
HARDSHIPS AND THE PAINS ENDURED
HARDSHIPS AND THE PAINS ENDURED BY THOSE IN THIS COMMUNITY TO
BY THOSE IN THIS COMMUNITY TO
BY THOSE IN THIS COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD THE RIGHT TO
ENSURE THAT WE HAD THE RIGHT TO
ENSURE THAT WE HAD THE RIGHT TO VOTE, IT HAS TO BE TAUGHT AGAIN
VOTE, IT HAS TO BE TAUGHT AGAIN
VOTE, IT HAS TO BE TAUGHT AGAIN TO THOSE WHO ARE 18 AND UNDER
TO THOSE WHO ARE 18 AND UNDER
TO THOSE WHO ARE 18 AND UNDER 40.
40.
40. >>UNDER 40, YEAH.
>>UNDER 40, YEAH.
>>UNDER 40, YEAH. >>LET'S LOOK TO THE FUTURE THEN,
>>LET'S LOOK TO THE FUTURE THEN,
>>LET'S LOOK TO THE FUTURE THEN, IN TERMS OF -- THERE IS A CHANGE
IN TERMS OF -- THERE IS A CHANGE
IN TERMS OF -- THERE IS A CHANGE THAT COULD BE COMING.
THAT COULD BE COMING.
THAT COULD BE COMING. WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER TO SEE?
WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER TO SEE?
WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER TO SEE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO KEEP THE
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KEEP THE
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KEEP THE CURRENT SYSTEM?
CURRENT SYSTEM?
CURRENT SYSTEM? WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHANGE TO
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHANGE TO
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHANGE TO SOMETHING ELSE?
SOMETHING ELSE?
SOMETHING ELSE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE TO
>> I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE TO
>> I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE TO SOMETHING ELSE.
SOMETHING ELSE.
SOMETHING ELSE. I PERSONALLY WOULD PREFER, AND
I PERSONALLY WOULD PREFER, AND
I PERSONALLY WOULD PREFER, AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCIL
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCIL
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCIL RACE, I GOT A DIFFERENT OPINION
RACE, I GOT A DIFFERENT OPINION
RACE, I GOT A DIFFERENT OPINION FOR THE OTHER TWO.
FOR THE OTHER TWO.
FOR THE OTHER TWO. >>LET'S TALK ABOUT COUNCIL ONLY.
>>LET'S TALK ABOUT COUNCIL ONLY.
>>LET'S TALK ABOUT COUNCIL ONLY. >>I WOULD PREFER TO SEE TEN
>>I WOULD PREFER TO SEE TEN
>>I WOULD PREFER TO SEE TEN DISTRICTS.
DISTRICTS.
DISTRICTS. IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME
IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME
IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, WHEN I WAS A YOUNG
CORRECTLY, WHEN I WAS A YOUNG
CORRECTLY, WHEN I WAS A YOUNG LAD IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE HAD
LAD IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE HAD
LAD IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE HAD TEN DISTRICTS.
TEN DISTRICTS.
TEN DISTRICTS. >>RIGHT.
>>RIGHT.
>>RIGHT. >>AND THE LEGAL LEAGUE OF WOMEN
>>AND THE LEGAL LEAGUE OF WOMEN
>>AND THE LEGAL LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS CHANGED IT.
VOTERS CHANGED IT.
VOTERS CHANGED IT. FOR WHAT REASON, I DON'T KNOW.
FOR WHAT REASON, I DON'T KNOW.
FOR WHAT REASON, I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE DID IS HAVE TEN
BUT WE DID IS HAVE TEN
BUT WE DID IS HAVE TEN DISTRICTS.
DISTRICTS.
DISTRICTS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO
SO I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO
SO I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO TEN DISTRICTS FOR A LOT OF
TEN DISTRICTS FOR A LOT OF
TEN DISTRICTS FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
REASONS.
REASONS. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT
FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT
FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT BENEFITS THE CANDIDATES.
BENEFITS THE CANDIDATES.
BENEFITS THE CANDIDATES. THEY HAVE AN AREA THAT IS MORE
THEY HAVE AN AREA THAT IS MORE
THEY HAVE AN AREA THAT IS MORE CONSTRICTED TO CAMPAIGN IN.
CONSTRICTED TO CAMPAIGN IN.
CONSTRICTED TO CAMPAIGN IN. IT IS GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS
IT IS GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS
IT IS GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS BECAUSE THEY CAN IDENTIFY THE
BECAUSE THEY CAN IDENTIFY THE
BECAUSE THEY CAN IDENTIFY THE SPECIFICALLY THEIR NEIGHBOR WHO
SPECIFICALLY THEIR NEIGHBOR WHO
SPECIFICALLY THEIR NEIGHBOR WHO IS THEIR COUNCILMAN AND TAKE
IS THEIR COUNCILMAN AND TAKE
IS THEIR COUNCILMAN AND TAKE THEIR PROBLEMS TO HIM OR HER AT
THEIR PROBLEMS TO HIM OR HER AT
THEIR PROBLEMS TO HIM OR HER AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE.
A MOMENT'S NOTICE.
A MOMENT'S NOTICE. I THINK IT BENEFITS EVERYBODY IN
I THINK IT BENEFITS EVERYBODY IN
I THINK IT BENEFITS EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE TEN
THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE TEN
THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE TEN DISTRICTS AND THEN THE
DISTRICTS AND THEN THE
DISTRICTS AND THEN THE INDIVIDUALS CAN WORK TO SEE THAT
INDIVIDUALS CAN WORK TO SEE THAT
INDIVIDUALS CAN WORK TO SEE THAT THEIR AGENDA FITS IN WITH THE
THEIR AGENDA FITS IN WITH THE
THEIR AGENDA FITS IN WITH THE ENTIRE AGENDA OF THE CITY OF
ENTIRE AGENDA OF THE CITY OF
ENTIRE AGENDA OF THE CITY OF PEORIA.
PEORIA.
PEORIA. >>SAME QUESTION TO YOU, JOYCE.
>>SAME QUESTION TO YOU, JOYCE.
>>SAME QUESTION TO YOU, JOYCE. >>INITIALLY THE PLAINTIFFS
>>INITIALLY THE PLAINTIFFS
>>INITIALLY THE PLAINTIFFS WANTED TEN DISTRICTS.
WANTED TEN DISTRICTS.
WANTED TEN DISTRICTS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN.
AGAIN.
AGAIN. THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED, TOO,
THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED, TOO,
THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED, TOO, WITH THE AT-LARGE SEATS, THERE
WITH THE AT-LARGE SEATS, THERE
WITH THE AT-LARGE SEATS, THERE IS A HIERARCHY, AND IT SEEMS
IS A HIERARCHY, AND IT SEEMS
IS A HIERARCHY, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS THE MAYOR, THEN
LIKE THERE IS THE MAYOR, THEN
LIKE THERE IS THE MAYOR, THEN THERE IS THE AT-LARGE, AND THEN
THERE IS THE AT-LARGE, AND THEN
THERE IS THE AT-LARGE, AND THEN THERE ARE THE DISTRICT COUNCIL
THERE ARE THE DISTRICT COUNCIL
THERE ARE THE DISTRICT COUNCIL PEOPLE.
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRICTS,
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRICTS,
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRICTS, YOU WILL SEE OUT OF THE FIVE
YOU WILL SEE OUT OF THE FIVE
YOU WILL SEE OUT OF THE FIVE DISTRICTS, IT WOULD NOT BE A
DISTRICTS, IT WOULD NOT BE A
DISTRICTS, IT WOULD NOT BE A SURPRISE THERE WOULD BE FOUR
SURPRISE THERE WOULD BE FOUR
SURPRISE THERE WOULD BE FOUR COMING OUT OF ONE DISTRICT.
COMING OUT OF ONE DISTRICT.
COMING OUT OF ONE DISTRICT. SO THERE IS AN OVERHELPS OF
SO THERE IS AN OVERHELPS OF
SO THERE IS AN OVERHELPS OF DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE THAN ALL
DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE THAN ALL
DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE THAN ALL OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS COMBINED.
OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS COMBINED.
OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS COMBINED. CERTAINLY, THINK THE TEN
CERTAINLY, THINK THE TEN
CERTAINLY, THINK THE TEN DISTRICTS WOULD BE THE BETTER
DISTRICTS WOULD BE THE BETTER
DISTRICTS WOULD BE THE BETTER CHOICE.
CHOICE.
CHOICE. >>DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE ARE
>>DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE ARE
>>DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE ARE NORTH AND NORTHWEST AS MANY OF
NORTH AND NORTHWEST AS MANY OF
NORTH AND NORTHWEST AS MANY OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW.
YOU PROBABLY KNOW.
YOU PROBABLY KNOW. SO WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD, WHAT
SO WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD, WHAT
SO WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD, WHAT IS THE PROCESS WE NEED TO GO
IS THE PROCESS WE NEED TO GO
IS THE PROCESS WE NEED TO GO THROUGH IF THIS CHANGE IS TO
THROUGH IF THIS CHANGE IS TO
THROUGH IF THIS CHANGE IS TO TAKE PLACE, WHATEVER THE CHANGE
TAKE PLACE, WHATEVER THE CHANGE
TAKE PLACE, WHATEVER THE CHANGE MIGHT BE?
MIGHT BE?
MIGHT BE? THERE IS ONE DEFINITE PROCESS,
THERE IS ONE DEFINITE PROCESS,
THERE IS ONE DEFINITE PROCESS, AND THAT IS, IF THERE IS GOING
AND THAT IS, IF THERE IS GOING
AND THAT IS, IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A CHANGE, THERE HAS TO BE
TO BE A CHANGE, THERE HAS TO BE
TO BE A CHANGE, THERE HAS TO BE A BUY IN FROM THE AFRICAN
A BUY IN FROM THE AFRICAN
A BUY IN FROM THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THE
AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THE
AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THE PLAINTIFFS PART OF THE ORIGINAL
PLAINTIFFS PART OF THE ORIGINAL
PLAINTIFFS PART OF THE ORIGINAL LAWSUIT, AND THEN THERE HAS TO
LAWSUIT, AND THEN THERE HAS TO
LAWSUIT, AND THEN THERE HAS TO BE APPROVAL BY THE COURT TO ANY
BE APPROVAL BY THE COURT TO ANY
BE APPROVAL BY THE COURT TO ANY CHANGE IN THE CURRENT COURT
CHANGE IN THE CURRENT COURT
CHANGE IN THE CURRENT COURT ORDER.
ORDER.
ORDER. THERE IS SOME IN THE COMMUNITY
THERE IS SOME IN THE COMMUNITY
THERE IS SOME IN THE COMMUNITY THAT BELIEVE THAT A REFERENDUM
THAT BELIEVE THAT A REFERENDUM
THAT BELIEVE THAT A REFERENDUM IS ALSO NECESSARY, WHETHER
IS ALSO NECESSARY, WHETHER
IS ALSO NECESSARY, WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, I DON'T
THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, I DON'T
THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
KNOW.
KNOW. I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION ON ON.
I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION ON ON.
I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION ON ON. WHAT I DO HAVE IS AN REFERENDUM
WHAT I DO HAVE IS AN REFERENDUM
WHAT I DO HAVE IS AN REFERENDUM IS NOT ENOUGH.
IS NOT ENOUGH.
IS NOT ENOUGH. YOU STILL HAVE REFERENDUM PLUS
YOU STILL HAVE REFERENDUM PLUS
YOU STILL HAVE REFERENDUM PLUS IN ORDER TO MAKE A CHANGE.
IN ORDER TO MAKE A CHANGE.
IN ORDER TO MAKE A CHANGE. >>IT WOULD BE EASY TO GET BUY IN
>>IT WOULD BE EASY TO GET BUY IN
>>IT WOULD BE EASY TO GET BUY IN FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAINTIFFS
FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAINTIFFS
FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAINTIFFS BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE
BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE
BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE LEFT LOCALLY, IS THAT RIGHT?
LEFT LOCALLY, IS THAT RIGHT?
LEFT LOCALLY, IS THAT RIGHT? >> I AM ALL FOR TEN DISTRICTS!
>> I AM ALL FOR TEN DISTRICTS!
>> I AM ALL FOR TEN DISTRICTS! >>THERE YOU GO!
>>THERE YOU GO!
>>THERE YOU GO! (LAUGHING) SO BUT IF -- CAN THE
(LAUGHING) SO BUT IF -- CAN THE
(LAUGHING) SO BUT IF -- CAN THE COURT, FEDERAL COURT, RIGHT?
COURT, FEDERAL COURT, RIGHT?
COURT, FEDERAL COURT, RIGHT? >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >>CAN THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE SAY
>>CAN THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE SAY
>>CAN THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE SAY SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU CAN
SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU CAN
SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU CAN MOVE TO SORE CAN THEY SAY WE CAN
MOVE TO SORE CAN THEY SAY WE CAN
MOVE TO SORE CAN THEY SAY WE CAN RESCIND SINNED THE 1970 ORDER.
RESCIND SINNED THE 1970 ORDER.
RESCIND SINNED THE 1970 ORDER. >>THEY CAN APPROVE WHAT YOU GO
>>THEY CAN APPROVE WHAT YOU GO
>>THEY CAN APPROVE WHAT YOU GO TO AS WELL.
TO AS WELL.
TO AS WELL. THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO USE
THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO USE
THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO USE THE SAME CRITERIA, THE CIVIL
THE SAME CRITERIA, THE CIVIL
THE SAME CRITERIA, THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT, VOTING RIGHTS ACT,
RIGHTS ACT, VOTING RIGHTS ACT,
RIGHTS ACT, VOTING RIGHTS ACT, RATHER, TO JUDGE THE MERITS OF A
RATHER, TO JUDGE THE MERITS OF A
RATHER, TO JUDGE THE MERITS OF A CHANGE IN THE SYSTEM AND HOW IT
CHANGE IN THE SYSTEM AND HOW IT
CHANGE IN THE SYSTEM AND HOW IT IS GOING TO BE APPLICABLE TO THE
IS GOING TO BE APPLICABLE TO THE
IS GOING TO BE APPLICABLE TO THE AFRICAN AMERICAN RESIDENTS.
AFRICAN AMERICAN RESIDENTS.
AFRICAN AMERICAN RESIDENTS. SO IT IS NOT JUST A MATTER OF
SO IT IS NOT JUST A MATTER OF
SO IT IS NOT JUST A MATTER OF SAYING "YOU CAN MAKE THE MOVE."
SAYING "YOU CAN MAKE THE MOVE."
SAYING "YOU CAN MAKE THE MOVE." THEY ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A LEGAL REASON TO
THERE IS A LEGAL REASON TO
THERE IS A LEGAL REASON TO JUSTIFY THE MOVE.
JUSTIFY THE MOVE.
JUSTIFY THE MOVE. >>WHAT IS YOUR -- ARE YOU ACTIVE
>>WHAT IS YOUR -- ARE YOU ACTIVE
>>WHAT IS YOUR -- ARE YOU ACTIVE IN THIS PROCESS AT THIS POINT?
IN THIS PROCESS AT THIS POINT?
IN THIS PROCESS AT THIS POINT? >> NO.
>> NO.
>> NO. WE HAVE HAD GROUPS OF PEOPLE
WE HAVE HAD GROUPS OF PEOPLE
WE HAVE HAD GROUPS OF PEOPLE ABOUT ONCE A YEAR FOR THE
ABOUT ONCE A YEAR FOR THE
ABOUT ONCE A YEAR FOR THE LAST -- SINCE 1987 TALK ABOUT
LAST -- SINCE 1987 TALK ABOUT
LAST -- SINCE 1987 TALK ABOUT IT, AND WE CAME VERY CLOSE I
IT, AND WE CAME VERY CLOSE I
IT, AND WE CAME VERY CLOSE I THINK A YEAR OR TWO AGO OF DOING
THINK A YEAR OR TWO AGO OF DOING
THINK A YEAR OR TWO AGO OF DOING SOMETHING.
SOMETHING.
SOMETHING. IT KIND OF STALLED.
IT KIND OF STALLED.
IT KIND OF STALLED. BUT I AM WILLING TO, AND I WILL
BUT I AM WILLING TO, AND I WILL
BUT I AM WILLING TO, AND I WILL TELL ANYONE WHO ASKS ME
TELL ANYONE WHO ASKS ME
TELL ANYONE WHO ASKS ME PERSONALLY I WOULD SUPPORT TEN
PERSONALLY I WOULD SUPPORT TEN
PERSONALLY I WOULD SUPPORT TEN DISTRICTS.
DISTRICTS.
DISTRICTS. THE OTHER CAVEAT I WOULD THROW
THE OTHER CAVEAT I WOULD THROW
THE OTHER CAVEAT I WOULD THROW IN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE
IN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE
IN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE DISTRICTS DRAWN BY POLITICAL
DISTRICTS DRAWN BY POLITICAL
DISTRICTS DRAWN BY POLITICAL SCIENTISTS, WOULD NOT LIKE TO
SCIENTISTS, WOULD NOT LIKE TO
SCIENTISTS, WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE THEM DRAWN BY A POLITICIAN.
SEE THEM DRAWN BY A POLITICIAN.
SEE THEM DRAWN BY A POLITICIAN. >>I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE
>>I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE
>>I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN
PRESIDENT OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN
PRESIDENT OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS.
VOTERS.
VOTERS. SHE INDICATED TO ME THAT THE
SHE INDICATED TO ME THAT THE
SHE INDICATED TO ME THAT THE LEAGUE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT
LEAGUE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT
LEAGUE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST TWO AT-LARGE
LEAST TWO AT-LARGE
LEAST TWO AT-LARGE REPRESENTATIVES BECAUSE THEY
REPRESENTATIVES BECAUSE THEY
REPRESENTATIVES BECAUSE THEY WOULD REPRESENT THE WHOLE CITY.
WOULD REPRESENT THE WHOLE CITY.
WOULD REPRESENT THE WHOLE CITY. THE LEAGUE FEELS IT IS IMPORTANT
THE LEAGUE FEELS IT IS IMPORTANT
THE LEAGUE FEELS IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A COUPLE OF COUNCIL
TO HAVE A COUPLE OF COUNCIL
TO HAVE A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS TO REPRESENT THE CITY AS
MEMBERS TO REPRESENT THE CITY AS
MEMBERS TO REPRESENT THE CITY AS AN ENTIRETY.
AN ENTIRETY.
AN ENTIRETY. YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT.
YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT.
YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT. >>FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE
>>FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE
>>FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE MAYOR IS THE ONE THAT REPRESENTS
MAYOR IS THE ONE THAT REPRESENTS
MAYOR IS THE ONE THAT REPRESENTS THE WHOLE CITY. SO THEY HAVE
THE WHOLE CITY. SO THEY HAVE
THE WHOLE CITY. SO THEY HAVE GOT THAT KIND OF REPRESENTATION
GOT THAT KIND OF REPRESENTATION
GOT THAT KIND OF REPRESENTATION IN THE GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE.
IN THE GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE.
IN THE GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE. AND I AM NOT SO SURE THAT HAVING
AND I AM NOT SO SURE THAT HAVING
AND I AM NOT SO SURE THAT HAVING TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO ALLEGEDLY
TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO ALLEGEDLY
TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO ALLEGEDLY WOULD REPRESENT THE WHOLE
WOULD REPRESENT THE WHOLE
WOULD REPRESENT THE WHOLE SYSTEM, THE WHOLE CITY WOULD, IN
SYSTEM, THE WHOLE CITY WOULD, IN
SYSTEM, THE WHOLE CITY WOULD, IN FACT, WORK OUT THAT WAY.
FACT, WORK OUT THAT WAY.
FACT, WORK OUT THAT WAY. SO, THEREFORE, I DON'T THINK I
SO, THEREFORE, I DON'T THINK I
SO, THEREFORE, I DON'T THINK I WOULD SUPPORT IT.
WOULD SUPPORT IT.
WOULD SUPPORT IT. MAKE NO MISTAKE, POLITICIANS
MAKE NO MISTAKE, POLITICIANS
MAKE NO MISTAKE, POLITICIANS COUNT VOTES.
COUNT VOTES.
COUNT VOTES. AND IN TERMS OF PROVIDING
AND IN TERMS OF PROVIDING
AND IN TERMS OF PROVIDING REPRESENTATION, IF YOU HAD TWO
REPRESENTATION, IF YOU HAD TWO
REPRESENTATION, IF YOU HAD TWO CITY COUNCIL MEN AT LARGE, THE
CITY COUNCIL MEN AT LARGE, THE
CITY COUNCIL MEN AT LARGE, THE BULK OF THEIR REPRESENTATION IS
BULK OF THEIR REPRESENTATION IS
BULK OF THEIR REPRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE IN THE AREA WHERE
GOING TO BE IN THE AREA WHERE
GOING TO BE IN THE AREA WHERE THEY LIVE OR RECEIVE THE MOST
THEY LIVE OR RECEIVE THE MOST
THEY LIVE OR RECEIVE THE MOST VOTES.
VOTES.
VOTES. SO THAT MEANS THAT THOSE WHO ARE
SO THAT MEANS THAT THOSE WHO ARE
SO THAT MEANS THAT THOSE WHO ARE NOT IN THEIR AREA MUCH LIKE IT
NOT IN THEIR AREA MUCH LIKE IT
NOT IN THEIR AREA MUCH LIKE IT IS TODAY WON'T RECEIVE MUCH OF
IS TODAY WON'T RECEIVE MUCH OF
IS TODAY WON'T RECEIVE MUCH OF THAT -- THE ENTIRE -- OVER THE
THAT -- THE ENTIRE -- OVER THE
THAT -- THE ENTIRE -- OVER THE CITY REPRESENTATION THAT THE
CITY REPRESENTATION THAT THE
CITY REPRESENTATION THAT THE LEAGUE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
LEAGUE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
LEAGUE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO, NO, I DON'T SEE THAT AS AN
SO, NO, I DON'T SEE THAT AS AN
SO, NO, I DON'T SEE THAT AS AN ISSUE.
ISSUE.
ISSUE. THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER
THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER
THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER REPRESENTATION FOR EVERYBODY IF
REPRESENTATION FOR EVERYBODY IF
REPRESENTATION FOR EVERYBODY IF WE HAD THE TEN DISTRICTS.
WE HAD THE TEN DISTRICTS.
WE HAD THE TEN DISTRICTS. >>WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE
>>WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE
>>WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE HOW THAT TURNS OUT.
HOW THAT TURNS OUT.
HOW THAT TURNS OUT. >>FOR REAL.
>>FOR REAL.
>>FOR REAL. WE HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME.
WE HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME.
WE HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO JOYCE BANKS
THANK YOU SO MUCH TO JOYCE BANKS
THANK YOU SO MUCH TO JOYCE BANKS ORIGINAL PLAINTIFF IN THE 1987
ORIGINAL PLAINTIFF IN THE 1987
ORIGINAL PLAINTIFF IN THE 1987 LAWSUIT THAT RESULTED IN THE
LAWSUIT THAT RESULTED IN THE
LAWSUIT THAT RESULTED IN THE AT-LARGE CUMULATIVE VOTING, AND
AT-LARGE CUMULATIVE VOTING, AND
AT-LARGE CUMULATIVE VOTING, AND TO DON JACKSON, A LOCAL ATTORNEY
TO DON JACKSON, A LOCAL ATTORNEY
TO DON JACKSON, A LOCAL ATTORNEY AND RIGHT NOW STATE PRESIDENT
AND RIGHT NOW STATE PRESIDENT
AND RIGHT NOW STATE PRESIDENT FOR COUPLE MONTHS AND LOCAL
FOR COUPLE MONTHS AND LOCAL
FOR COUPLE MONTHS AND LOCAL PRESIDENT OF N.A.A.C.P.
PRESIDENT OF N.A.A.C.P.
PRESIDENT OF N.A.A.C.P. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON "AT
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON "AT
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON "AT ISSUE."
ISSUE."
ISSUE." WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN ONE WEEK
WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN ONE WEEK
WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN ONE WEEK FROM TODAY FOR ANOTHER EDITION
FROM TODAY FOR ANOTHER EDITION
FROM TODAY FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF "AT ISSUE."