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Chuck: Hey everybody it's Lessons from the Dirt
and now here's the man who's number one when it comes to
number
two
your host
Mike Rowe.
MR: All right Chuck thanks so much, Matt as always - there's not much to say.
Uh...guess who the guest is?
I'll give you a hint it is him. It's Ryan.
How are you? Ryan: Good.
MR: How about some polite applause for Ryan.
MR: Because Ryan...
you came to work in a spot for a couple of days ago. I'm not even sure what
brought you to us exactly. Ryan: Well, I work for the
production company. MR: Right.
Ryan: And uh...I am just...
MR: You just get bossed around getting...just
doing stuff. Ryan: Everything. MR: Whatever. Ryan: Whatever is needed.
MR: And what else was needed
the other day was somebody to play the role of our young, inspiring college graduates
circa nineteen seventy two. As we went about the business of recreating this
poster. Through our typical exhaustive casting process we looked
around and said, "What about that guy."
How do you look here being pictured in a year clearly before you were
actually...alive?
Ryan: Good. I think I
fit the mold well...in this seventies collar.
MR: It's a strong look.
Ryan: It is, it is.
MR: You go to school? Ryan: I did, I
went for two years and uh...
wanted to be a film maker and kind of
was getting some on set experience here in there and
with what it was that I wanted to do
it's probably a good idea that I got a head start and a leg up on uh... getting
some a real work
real world experience
and uh...
coming and working for a company like I am right now at the very bottom
I'm.. MR: Your not afraid to start at the bottom. Ryan: Oh absolutely not and I've been able to
work on numerous amount of projects and uh...
direct a film of my own in New York and... MR: Awesome what's it called?
Ryan: It's called Projectionist.
Yeah it was a feature, we actually just finished at the end of last year.
MR: And uh... Ryan: And well... MR: That's great. Are you happy with... Ryan: Oh yeah...I'm very happy...
I'm very happy how it turned out. It turned out a lot better and a lot more legit than we thought
that it would.
MR: So's that poster? Ryan: Absolutely, yeah...
but I'm in no rush to
be where most people who
expect themselves to be. MR: You got time...how old are you? Ryan: I'm
twenty-four. MR: You're twenty-four years old. Okay, so I'm not. Uh...
tell me what's...I mean
what is the mindset of
most of your friends
right now when it comes to a degree, when it comes to work, when it
comes to
delayed gratification...all of it? Ryan: First of all the entitlement is the number one thing
I see
and you know Beth mentioned kids come to work for her or that are on jobs
she's on that, that come straight out of film school and they walk onto the set and
you know there's nothing that I can't I can't do. I'm a P.A. but be a
director's assistant or a assistant director or something like that...there's a
big difference between
kind of learning how a piece of machinery works
and kind of the academic sense and actually going in and getting your hands
dirty and learning firsthand with an apprenticeship or fellowship or what
not.
And most kids my age are still
thinking this. They're still, they still had this idea
that you know stick my four years in and pay whatever it takes and a
payoff is...is...is there is going to be a huge reward and the end and
you know it just seems so many people
work really hard and then graduate and expect something to come right to them.
Uh... education in America cost more than it does anywhere else in the world I
believe. And so I think uh...the perception of of...of school. MR: You get what you pay for.
Ryan: Go to school and it'll pay off I think that that's still
out there
MR: I think about
like gym memberships
ya know...there's this idea that
okay you want to be fit
you want to be healthy but would you join the gym
for one hundred and fifty bucks a month
and then never go to it? The truth is a lot of people do. Ryan: Absolutely. MR: That's how the whole model is.
It's...and so there is this idea if I pay my money
and just
do part of the thing I'm going to be fit.
It's the same... you know how am I going to pay one hundred and fifty grand to go to school
but not really apply myself. Ryan: Absolutely,
and there are so many people out there who
can be good at something and they're trying to chase something that may be
isn't right for them and there are other outlets.
MR: Do me a favor uh...I don't know where you will wind up but it's going to be someplace great and I'm
glad I'll be able to say I knew you when.
Uh... but if you would go ahead and take that poster down and
and I'm going to invite
Taylor to come over who really portrayed
uh... the other side on the other poster.
Uh...it's a really cheap show so we only have room for two chairs so
with all due respect beat it.
Thank you Ryan: Ryan: Thank you. MR: It was really great. Taylor come on in. MR: A little banjo music...as Taylor takes his position.
in what I would call the hot seat, but that implies you are going to have to deal with a series of
difficult probing questions and I promise you that's not going to happen.
Taylor: Uh, bring them on.
MR: Then again
maybe not.
You uh...
were minding your own business two days ago and somebody said
uh...here put this shirt on and hold this computer and you're going to be our hero.
Taylor: I was standing behind the camera and somebody said get in front it.
MR: The story of my life. How old are you? Taylor: Twenty-eight. MR: And...
are you doing exactly what you wanting to be doing right now? Or.. Taylor: On the path the path to it. MR: And what is the
ultimate destination?
Taylor: Uh...D.P.
that's a director of photography for uh... TV commercials, movies, TV shows.
MR: Did you study for that in the traditional sense? Taylor: I did I went to film
school
and Ryan kind of touched on this before, lots of people go to film school
and uh...
you get the knowledge in film school then you come to set
and you think you know you're ready for you know the next level when you realize
that you know your schooling hasn't ended yet.
You're just in a new type of schooling and so it's like you have to learn the uh...
learn the trade and a lot of what you wind up learning comes from on the job
rather than in the classroom.
MR: You think people in their twenties are
hardwired somehow to look for shortcut, to find a shortcut, to not put in the time?
Taylor: I think that is sort of in
today's day and age, the mentality of a lot of people. You know you get out of
school and
you know you just you're looking for that quick buck. MR: Yeah. Ryan: And uh people
forget that you know majority people takes a long time to get their, you have to
perfect a skill and once you have that you know you can make it
money but you know
it takes a long time to get to that. MR: Do you see yourself as a
tradesmen?
Taylor: Yeah, I do.
Yeah I mean there's a lot you need to learn there's a lot you need to know
and uh...
you know you can't do the job until you know that.
MR: You like to read? Taylor; I do. MR: What do you read?
Taylor: What am I reading right now? MR: Yeah.
Taylor: The Hunger Games. MR: Dude...
(Laughing)
MR: Isn't that...isn't that like a chick book? I don't know...
Taylor: It's pretty brutal. MR: What's that kids name...Cat Nip or something?
Taylor: Katniss. MR: Katniss...right. Taylor: Hot.
MR: Do you have a copy with you right now that you read between takes?
Taylor: I don't. MR: Oh. Taylor: I should.
MR: No, you shouldn't. Taylor: You're right.
MR: Don't do that. What's the best movie you ever made?
Taylor: The best movie I ever made
MR: No, no the best movie you've ever seen that was
made prior before you saw it?
Taylor: Uh... MR: I know that's a big question...so
excluding all movies you've made.
Taylor: What was the best movie I've ever seen... MR: Right. Taylor: I am a big fan of
uh... spy movies, so uh...I like all the Borne movies.
MR: Who would win in a fight Jason Borne or Katniss?
Taylor: Katniss, hands down.
MR: I am so finished talking to you.
Taylor, thank you for what you're doing and for what you did.
We really appreciate your help. Taylor: Thanks a lot. MR: A little banjo music from Matt. Lessons from the Dirt! Next time.
Chuck take us out with a little something
an announcer would do. Chuck: Thanks everybody for joining us.
We'll see you again next time on Lessons
from the Dirt.
MR: See now it feel like a show. Chuck: Right, it's starting to...