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meal served as an undercover operative for the f_b_i_ he's most famous they're
known for his role in the capture of robert hansen the most notorious by in
u_s_ history the story became the subject of the movie breach were eric
was played
by ryan philip philly per phillip hannah how he's pronouncing
days there it is a founding partner of the georgetown group which specializes
in
counterintelligence counterterrorism operations security risk assessment and
much more georgetown group dot com hehehe recovery of doing very well and
that ryan okay
this is so that now i've member when i was younger everybody high school since
the lead and then i heard him recently i think philippi is the way you do the
right way
yet that the right way lately actually it correct that perhaps i would think
that when when you get everybody's name raytheon i'll tell you i'm fascinated by
the
entire robert hands and feet
said i did some reading on it months ago and that's when i contacted you blood
at the beginning in the summers to go through how did you first come to work
for the f_b_i_
i have coming out of undergrad
i hit spent here at eight
consultant andy it must be no quite what to do in the early ninety
and that's what everyone was doing and what the happy for that but i wanted to
do something that
that gave back
to my country we're going to do when you're here early twenty th by the
patriotic right
so i applied to all of the agency that
that sounded funding interesting and rewarding and the f_b_i_
the p_t_a_ where the to who came back
the fact that at the end of the debt
decided that instead of flipping a coin i would pick the one that
give me a tape go to quantico yet the academy both train their for training
first
turned out to be the f_b_i_
so robert hansen says to give the background before you're even
and
of he had been suspected of selling secrets to the soviets kind of often on
over about twenty five or thirty year period un paolo
had you worked at the f_b_i_ when they decided number one he was a c_i_a_
operative and he was
move to the f_b_i_ in part to get him further away from some sensitive
information as i understand how long raju been working there when you were
told
we're going to put you on this case
but it get make one all clarification robert and or that federal agents for
the f_b_i_ record what yay operative okay
incorrect there might have been a little bit of computing olivia what he didn't
want of a babbit it protective ulpan and robert hampton
volunteered himself to the soviet union in nineteen eighty-five right soviet
inspired for quite some time uh... italy primarily gave up secrets that pointed
to the c_i_a_ that weight protected himself because
went counterintelligence was trying to understand who despite what the
they were all fall we looking at the i_a_e_a_ because butted grid for coming
out of the anderson but
so i had been in the f_b_i_ for five years prior to might work on the hampton
kate's
at an undercover operative an investigative specialist doing primarily
undercover for ballot height
com analytical com
field operations against
kinda paradigm and counterintelligence part
concepts so they can see you in d_c_
a will be number one were you aware of hanson at the time that that that you
were put on the case
i wont in victoria taped it everything that need to know very gained on dot
right
and in a real life the reason for that is because the more people you know
penelope krikalev chance it hasn't
beginning at the grocery erased that makes sense and fell i didn't know about
him but in fact the first i heard about hampton was on a sunday morning just
before i was put on the cape
provider showed up at my house
at a point
woke me up and made me come out by the car to take a brief me on it
and gave me about ten minutes decide whether i picked the
undercover opportunity to work against him
because its next meeting was with the director of the f_b_i_ philip
everything moved very quickly one they decided that he was eight
picnic person of interest in very complicated
intelligent kit that they had tons of was that you would be assigned to him as
far as he knew as kind of a mentor protege you are the young guy and he
will train you scenario
in it that i actually developed the mentor protege
scenario for him to get him to start talking to me if i could start
developing investigation right what you've got the idea that the other state
with a couple problem
uh... one we have ninety f_b_i_ anymore but i thought that week white he
the f_b_i_'s chose
to retain hampton he was going to
retiring april and of course investigation
began early what i can tell you when it began was very late december fell
soup ford bright
and the the or
december two thousand rep february two thousand one
they had to come on board and in order to do that they had given the train job
they created a new division just for him call the information assurance division
right
federal we're going to pass do
took that on top of all information in the f_b_i_
and ask you to go and interview your counterpart that all the other
classified agency
and find out how they protect information
and then find out how the f_b_i_ can can that protecting information from bipin
but hackers different kind of the penetration
the entire things made up for his benefit to keep them
there to keep uninterested
absolutely not only that
if you think of what you're doing when you're on top of the pyramid of
information assurance that your you have access to all information fell
knowing what we know now effectively by
uh... he must have been just
laughing to himself with the kid indians in the ultimate candy store absolutely
yet acted everything and epileptic from act up everything if you tried to
we'll follow that drop in the ground
course complicated thing for me was yeah
how do i get a personal report for the the one protection to keep them from
doing that
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