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BECAUSE OF THEIR RECORD IN TERMS
OF HOW THEY MAY DEAL WITH THAT
INFORMATION.
>> WELL, AND FRANKLY, I THINK
INCREASINGLY I DISTRUST ALL
BUREAUCRAC
BUREAUCRACIES, BECAUSE THE
RECORD WE HAVE WITH THE IRS, THE
RECORD WE HAVE AT THE PROTECTION
AGENCY WHERE WE JUST LEARNED
TODAY THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GIVING
INDIVIDUAL NAMES OF FARMERS TO
ACTIVIST LAWYERS.
I MEAN, EVERY TIME WE TURN
AROUND, THERE IS A NEW
BUREAUCRATIC BIG GOVERNMENT
SCANDAL THAT I THINK IS DEEPER
AND MORE THAN PRESIDENT OBAMA.
I THINK IT'S PART OF THE WHOLE
PROBLEM OF GIANT GOVERNMENT.
SO I WOULD WANT TO KNOW THAT
THIS WAS WALLED OFF, AND I WOULD
WANT SOME KIND OF CRIMINAL
SANCTIONS AGAINST ANYBODY WHO
USED THIS INFORMATION FOR
ANYTHING, EXCEPT
COUNTERTERRORISM.
>> SEE, WHAT I'VE GOT HERE, I'VE
GOT A STORY HERE, WHICH IS FROM
2006, "USA TODAY", THE NATIONAL
SECURITY ABLE SEE HAS BEEN
SECRETLY COLLECTING PHONE
RECORDS OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF
AMERICANS USING DATA PROVIDED BY
AT&T, VERIZON AND BELL SOUTH.
THAT WAS UNDER GEORGE BUSH'S
ADMINISTRATION.
AND THE CRITICS WILL SAY ALL
RIGHT, MR. SPEAKER, YOU'RE
CRITICIZING THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION FOR DOING THIS,
ALTHOUGH YOU'RE SAYING IT COULD
BE ACCEPTABLE, BECAUSE YOU --
BECAUSE YOU COULD TRUST THEM.
OTHER PEOPLE SAY, HANG ON, WHAT
ABOUT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION
WHO TOOK US TO WAR IN IRAQ OVER
WHAT TURNED OUT TO BE A PACK OF
LIES ABOUT SADDAM HUSSEIN'S
WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION?
WHY WOULD YOU TRUST THEM ANYMORE
WITH THAT INFORMATION?
ISN'T IT LIKE FOR LIKE?
>> LET ME GO BACK TO 2006.
YOU'LL FIND I SAID IF IT IS
NARROWLY RESTRICTED TO
TERRORISM, IT'S ACCEPTABLE.
MY POSITION HASN'T CHANGED.
>> THAT WASN'T MY QUESTION.
>> LET ME JUST SAY FOR THE
RECORD --
>> MY QUESTION WAS, WHY WOULD
YOU TRUST -- WHY WOULD YOU TRUST
THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION --
>> I DIDN'T.
>> -- GIVEN THEIR TERRIBLE
BREAKDOWN OF INTELLIGENCE AND
INFORMATION OVER WEAPONS OF MASS
DESTRUCTION?
WHY WOULD YOU TRUST THEM ANYMORE
THAN YOU WOULD TRUST THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION WITH THE SAME
RECORDS?
>> LET ME SAY, FIRST OF ALL, I
DON'T BELIEVE COLIN POWELL LIED.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S AN
ACCURATE STATEMENT.
I THINK THEY SAID WHAT THEY
THOUGHT WAS TRUE AT THE TIME.
BUT THAT'S IRRELEVANT.
I BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE
CRIMINAL SANCTIONS AGAINST
ANYONE WHO TAKES A NATIONAL
SECURITY TAP AND USES IT FOR ANY
OTHER PURPOSE.
SO I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN
IRON WALL BETWEEN THE FBI,
CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS, THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND THE
NATIONAL SECURITY APPARATUS.
I'VE SAID THIS ALL ALONG.
I DON'T TRUST THE BUSH
ADMINISTRATION.
I DON'T TRUST ANY BIG
GOVERNMENT.
I THINK BIG GOVERNMENTS ARE
INHERENTLY DANGEROUS.
THAT'S WHY AS A CONFIDENT, I
LIKE MUCH SMALLER GOVERNMENT,
BECAUSE I DISTRUST BIG
BUREAUCRATIC GOVERNMENTS.
THEY RUN AMUCK.
>> WELL, LET'S --