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all right so now let's go to health care
uh... market so
given what's happening in the chains landscape that you do discussed in
washington
first what can we agree that the current version of health care reform of the
bill that's in the senate and
i guess the one on the house as well but their debt
i would greater probably true i think there's no question that david beard no
appetite en route
none
traffic senate bill
uh... it does do you think that um... lawford basically
irreconcilable with uh... again that
that uh... democratic philosophy and that is
when cannot afc
working families whether that you know or not
to pay taxes in on their health care benefits
uh... stepped-up starter
and whether the white house got to be looking at that actually makes it worse
conduct of cosmetically at that
we just can't do that
and and mckinley
when basically said we're going to grow
billion put billions of dollars of more bearable do insurance companies with
very limited
uh... restraint on them without even gone to the fact that we're not even
going to eliminate the retro exemption
fellow the fluid non-starter in the house and i don't think that
we're willing at this point
to play
okay what that was going to go on that will make changes i don't think anybody
trust suspended enough to do that so
from that perspective i think that uh...
that the senate bill of amount start
i helped bill which by the way of very close to what that particular catherine
playpen
in this tape
um...
skill
you know it would be wonderful to pass it but i don't think or matter and it's
pretty clear that we don't have sixty votes
in the senate for that though
so
uh... you know we we couldn't get out of the leadership is working very hard now
to figure out what we can do they're a lot of members
who are
uh... recommending that we we break the build-up
um... different parts of it that have brought public appeared on them with put
the republicans in the position of
if they're voting for them or else being labeled in supporting special interest
uh... that strategy is under consideration i think
the white out the fat
today that they were
picky about britain the coop
um... old it
maybe a couple prepared felt wanted facts are greater anecdote clearly cat
mat out but i think that out though krueger parapro
we'll look at the grandparents work there
okay that's very important because we just saw a bronco bomb on the on nine
eight ec saying yes that would it
tradekey
pass the parts that we all agree on and i could be interpreted two different
ways so
in you just mentioned something very similar so what is it
that we can all agree on one of the parts the bill do you think are easier
to pass over that
that are going to be stripped out and concentrator
i'll get a good report brewery reader program prank
arm the insurance against the insurance reform flow both think that prohibit
uh... excluding people per pre-existing conditions or denying coverage for
pre-existing conditions rescinding coverage uh... imposing um... lifetime
libete or annual cap on coverage
the pink that traffic
bankruptcy uh... and totals are pretty easy keeping somebody and ensure that
our young crystalline can't call picked over twenty six twenty seven
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fat-free popular wildly popular and and should be you be the best
um...
things that are tough for the past are well i've never put a medicare per
minute things like reducing the better lazard narrowing the dollar hole on
prescription drug coverage
though things um...
i think will be widely
popular
eliminating the antitrust exemption
for insurance companies
i think will be incredibly popular on a national level up computer screen if you
have a republican vote on that
uh... for the think we can do to reform the delivery system
um... that
that house stopped which uh...
uh...
howdy it you expand medicaid and then how do you have over at the additional
cost to the states
the pay four ever read an additional coverage i mean if you're gonna have
thirty or three million or so more people
how do you do that and had to pay for though through the tough questions and
there's no agreement on that
good thing about that but i get that
note prevention rebel
did not go into effect until twenty thirty or twenty fourteen anyway
so if we can
make this first apples somebody's
really important repeated every form tracked benefit
the vast majority of american people doubt
in their competence
uh...
next draft which we can probably do enablement justice soon as we would
agree passed a bill now
uh... may become more possible
with honor a bit of uh... dialysis companies the congressional district
and i want i can get the reconciliation next if u bypass the popular parts of
through normal process
isn't then possible to go back to whatever it might be a public option a
medicare buy-in
uh... whatever it is the senate actually bring down costs so that you could add
those thirty million people uh... extra
can you pass at the reconciliation is that a smart way to go do you think
that's that
proper strategy for the democrat
upgrade
so that you know
uh... that would be a disaster of approach
i think what at the end of the though a lot of stuff to throw them out there
about the way
the loudest been craft their than that i think that's
if we did anything that pizza
circumvent the normal park but uh...
that we would uh... the perceived as being i'm told that the war
the people that they requested and transparent labeled he could have helped
uh... so out of the reconciliation would be a problem right now just outside the
preferably before uh... senator-elect ravel its warner
uh... both both and i thought that we can do right now perry is not that
that's not a report that let reads reinforce that
narrative out there that uh... the democrats are arrogant and went further
than will play it by yet but without the top
that's really interesting custom because analog with at all in favor of that
okay because
uh... republicans passed many things through reconciliation and they never
needed sixty votes
and end a filibuster that's something that's constitutional it's info public
housing finance say right and
uh... their and their being absolutely obstinate in its used by i'll buy that i
mean they've broken all records in hamid has this been use this is not normal
this is not regular so
he he seems to me that if you say well i'm not going to go down the
reconciliation pavan i'm gonna let them block every bill with a filibuster
that that's a concession to the republicans that's hard to recover from
well
jagannath but it's frustrating for a lot of a but
about both of them where the reality and reality here
that
we have a
we have quite a lot of the message war here
uh... the the man it's not that it's not that that's just because i think a lot
of our members are there and i'm thinking
all the time period and that is
you know you're really not acting on the open up here
i think it would look
for
you know the president that all that all of those hit one of the empty threat
which was also within the state but uh... that's being put up against a lot
of the doesn't that have been going on recently
um... it deals with special interest at this point
you but you don't need any of those deals if you go through reconciliation
so you're right on that envelope containing
your ab louis right
elite but here's a quick lately separate isn't into things that i will not only a
fifty one votes for a lot of the things we provided that there isn't a sinkhole
baez surveys u_s_a_ saying
but if you ask americans at if you give them a mandate ncaa up opted to sell
your income
uh... for that mandate and you don't have an m option of a public after
medicare buy-in their dead-set against it
indicated and i don't want right that if you say to them on the other hand yeah
i'm going to do that mandates it was a mandate but i give you a public option
or medicare by an especially medicare by
then they flip completely and say yes i'm definitely favor
so well i think that was a reporter's today who helped me uh... there or be
preferred option to look at the green or what would you like to do out there like
that i'd like to cut medicare everybody and i think that would be
broadly popular product britain your word for that
the american people would love it
and uh...
well maybe will be there sooner rather than later but uh... he is that the
other day so that means that after the fact that instead
it's a remarkable mobile
there's no there's no drug company deal there's no pharmacy there's no deal for
the health care companies and doctors hospital the lawyers begin uses nothin
all it is a medicare by everybody understands of medicare is now you could
buy into medicare simplest
can possibly be
i thought you are our voting degree would be done right up so walking and
then i will question a m you will never go to person before but barbara
monitoring raho
in in beirut where medicare like every other insurance companies
in order for it to remain
uh... viable
you have to have people who you that in tampa where you have to have used people
who don't you look at all
as long as medicare insurance for only the most important that the other
problem healthcare it's going to be financial aid
investor
what we need to get poor people at a younger people people who are who taught
you know you've been through much
and that's why i think
medicare for everybody it's not just great because it allows people to buy
because coverage but it will
which became the medical field from because it's like any other insurance
pools that it will be
right now it you know it's we we only insurance like
your winter people when they needed the most than
magnify people archer until we have to be about apartment mother or