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>> TODAY ON "SPRINGER" --
IT'S TIME I LIVE MY OWN LIFE.
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FOR TWO YEARS.
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IT'S SO SERIOUS NOW THAT IT'S
TIME TO COME CLEAN.
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST
-- SHE'S GETTING READY TO MOVE
IN.
SHE WANTS TO MOVE IN TOGETHER
AND START A LIFE.
I DON'T WANT IT.
JERRY: AND SHE HAS NO CLUE THAT
YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED?
I MEAN YOU SLEEP WITHHER,
RIGHT?
>> WELL, YEAH.
JERRY: IT'S NOT A TOUGH
QUESTION.
YOU JUST TRY AND REMEMBER.
>> WE SLEEP TOGETHER.
JERRY: YES.
BUT THERE IS SOMEONE ELSE?
>> YEAH.
I'VE BEEN SLEEPING WITH HER BEST
FRIEND.
[BEEP] [BEEP]
JERRY: SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE
GETTING A LOT OF REST.
WHAT IS SHE GOING TO -- YOU
DON'T KNOW HOW SHE'S GOING TO
REACT.
HOW CLOSE IS SHE WITH THIS BEST
FRIEND?
>> THEY GREW UP.
YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE A CHILD AND
YOU HAVE YOUR BEST FRIEND.
THEY'VE BEEN BEST FRIENDS SINCE
CHILD.
THEY DID THE TREE FORT AND
EVERYTHING.
THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH EVERYTHING.
SO I DON'T KNOW --
JERRY: NEVER MESS WITH A GIRL
THAT'S TPWHN A TREE FORT.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE'S GOING
TO SAY.
SHE MIGHT CRY.
SHE MIGHT BE PISSED OFF.
SHE MIGHT BEAT THE [BEEP] OUT OF
ME.
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT SHE'LL --
JERRY: YOU'VE COME TO THE RIGHT
PLACE, I'LL TELL YOU THAT.
OK.
SHE'S BEEN OUTSIDE -- SHE'S BEEN
OUTSIDE THE STUDIO.
SHE HASN'T HEARD WHAT IS GOING
ON.
SHE DOES KNOW SHE'S HERE TO HEAR
A SECRET ABOUT YOU.
HERE IS YOUR GIRLFRIEND OF TWO
YEARS, JEN.
JERRY: OH, I'D RECONSIDER.
I WOULD JUST RECONSIDER.
[BEEP]
JEN, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
>> THANK YOU.
JERRY: HOW LONG YOU HAVE GUYS
BEEN TOGETHER?
>> TWO YEARS ON AND OFF.
JERRY: TWO YEARS.
HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOUR
RELATIONSHIP?
>> PRETTY GOOD.
JERRY: DO YOU LOVE HIM?
>> I LOVE HIM.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT
TOGETHER.
JERRY: AND IS HE AFFECTIONATE
WITH YOU?
IS HE CARING?
>> YEAH.
YEAH.
JERRY: GOOD.
OK.
WELL, YOU KNOW YOU'RE HERE
BECAUSE HE WANTS TO TELL YOU
SOMETHING ABOUT THE
RELATIONSHIP.
MAYBE THIS IS THE TIME FOR ME TO
STEP OUT.
GO AHEAD.
>> JEN, LOOK --
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR
SO LONG.
AND WE'VE BEEN GOOD FRIENDS AND
YOU'VE BEEN THERE FOR ME AND
STUFF.
BUT --
>> BUT --
>> FOR THE LAST SIX OR SEVEN
MONTHS I'VE BEEN SLEEPING WITH
SOMEBODY ELSE.
>> YOU'RE KIDDING.
>> NO.
AND YOU KNOW THIS PERSON.
>> WHO?
I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU.
WHO?
JERRY: LET'S BRING THE PERSON
OUT.
>> SOMEONE YOU KNOW.
[BEEP]
[BEEP] AUDIENCE: JERRY!
JERRY!
[BEEP]
>> LOOK, JUST LISTEN.
>> WHAT THE [BEEP] IS WRONG WITH
YOU?
>> JUST CALM DOWN, ***.
JUST LISTEN TO ME.
>> YOU BETTER WATCH WHAT YOU
[BEEP] SAY TO ME.
>> OH, I'M SCARED.
LISTEN, OK?
I'M TRYING TO BE GOOD WITH YOU
AND TALK TO YOU, RIGHT?
>> OH, YOU COULDN'T TELL ME THIS
AT HOME?
>> [BEEP]
LET ME TALK.
>> NO.
>> THEN DON'T ASK ME --
>> THERE IS NO EXPLANATION.
>> I'M SORRY.
I JUST DON'T LIKE [BEEP] NO
MORE.
I WENT STRICTLY [BEEP]
[BEEP] LOOK, LISTEN, RIGHT, I'VE
BEEN HIDING MYSELF FROM
EVERYBODY.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
I'M TIRED OF HIDING MYSELF.
I'M GOING TO LIVE THE LIFE I
WANT TO LIVE.
I'M HAPPY WITH THE MAN I LOVE
AND I'M [BEEP] AND THAT'S THE
WAY I'M GOING TO BE.
OK?
NOW LISTEN.
IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT IT'S NOT
NOBODY ELSE'S FAULT.
JERRY: I THOUGHT HIS NAME WAS
RYAN.
WHY --
DID YOU ALWAYS KNOW YOU WERE
BISEXUAL?
>> I'M NOT BISEXUAL, I'M GAY.
I JUST HID MYSELF.
JERRY: WHY WOULD DO YOU THAT TO
YOUR BEST FRIEND?
>> IT NEVER MEANT TO HAPPEN.
JEN GOT SICK AND HE CAME TO A
CLUB WITH ME AND IT JUST
HAPPENED.
IT WAS REALLY --
IT HAPPENED.
AND I CAN'T TAKE IT BACK.
JERRY: WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A
BREAK.
WHEN WE COME BACK, THERE'S MORE
TO THIS STORY.
STAY WITH US.
[BEEP]
JERRY: MY GUESTS TO DAY ALL SAY
THEY'VE BEEN KEEPING PRETTY BIG
SECRETS FROM THEIR LOVERS AND
HAVE COME HERE TO FINALLY TELL
THE TRUTH.
NOW WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO JIM
WHO JUST REVEALED TO HIS
GIRLFRIEND OF TWO YEARS THAT HE
HASN'T BEEN FAITHFUL, THAT, IN
FACT, HE'S BEEN SLEEPING WITH
SOMEBODY ELSE.
SOMEBODY ELSE HAPPENS TO BE
RYAN.
AND JEN APPARENTLY DIDN'T KNOW
THAT HE WAS GAY.
THAT HER BOYFRIEND WAS GAY.
OK.
SO THEY'RE NOW TOGETHER.
BUT --
>> CAN I INTERRUPT YOU, JERRY?
>> I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT
DURING COMMERCIAL BREAK.
>> I WOULD RATHER HAVE JEN BE MY
BEST FRIEND.
WE'VE BEEN FRIENDS WAY TOO LONG.
>> [BEEP]
I'M SORRY.
>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT?
LET ME TELL YOU, THE SEX WAS NOT
ALL THAT.
AND SECOND OF ALL, I GOT A
SURPRISE FOR YOU, TOO.
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
YOURS WASN'T ALL THAT BIG
EITHER.
>> WHATEVER.
JERRY: WHAT'S THE SURPRISE YOU
HAVE?
>> I'VE BEEN SEEING SOMEONE
ELSE.
NOW, WAIT, WAIT.
THIS PERSON I'M IN LOVE WITH.
AND I'M GOING TO STAY WITH.
SO YOU TWO CAN JUST HITCHHIKE
HOME OR WHENEVER THE HELL Y'ALL
ARE GOING.
MORE POWER TO YOU.
WHATEVER.
>> WHATEVER.
>> YOU DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT
SIX MONTHS.
DON'T PLAY IT.
DON'T EVEN PLAY IT, YOU AND YOUR
LITTLE SMALL [BEEP] SELF.
>> SMALL?
JERRY: ALL RIGHT.
>> OK.
ALL RIGHT.
JERRY: BRING OUT THE OTHER
PERSON.
>> I NEVER HAD COMPLAINTS
BEFORE.
[BEEP]
[BEEP] AUDIENCE: JERRY!
JERRY!
[BEEP] >> GO SIT WITH YOUR
LITTLE FRIEND.
HEY, BABY, CHOCOLATE MELTS IN
THE MOUTH, NOT IN THE HANDS.
>> I DON'T WANT YOUR ***.
>> MILLIMETER ***.
THIS IS A REAL BLACK MAN SO YOU
NEED TO STEP.
>> UGLY ***.
>> OIM GOING TO INTRODUCE YOU TO
ONE.
JERRY: DO YOU GUYS -- HOW DO YOU
GUYS KNOW EACH OTHER?
>> I MET HIM THROUGH RYAN.
JERRY: YOU'RE ACQUAINTANCES.
BUT NOW -- BUT, JIM, SO WHEN YOU
WERE WITH JEN WHICH IS HOW THIS
SHOW STARTED, YOU STARTED WITH
JEN, YOU'VE BEEN WITH TWO GUYS?
>> UH-HUH.
>> WHO ELSE?
>> THAT'S ALL.
OH, YEAH, THAT'S ALL I BET.
>> WHY DON'T YOU SHUT THE [BEEP]
UP, ***.
YOU AIN'T NOTHING BUT A
SCANCHINGY ***.
[BEEP]
>> RELAX.
YOU CAN'T ATTACK A FEMALE.
WE DON'T ALLOW THAT, ALL RIGHT?
JERRY: DON'T EVER DESTROY
FLOWERS.
>> I'M SORRY.
JERRY: OK.
WHY ARE YOU GETTING UPSET
BECAUSE AFTER ALL, HE'S THE ONE
THAT CHEATED ON HER.
WHAT DID SHE DO WRONG?
>> SHE IS A CONTROLLING ***.
>> I CONTROLLED HIM REAL WELL.
>> YOU ARE OVER HERE LIKE EVERY
[BEEP] IN THE NATION.
>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THE
HELL YOU ARE.
JERRY: WHAT ARE YOU DOING GOING
AND TRYING -- WHAT ARE YOU DOING
GOING AND TRYING TO HIT A WOMAN.
>> [BEEP]
>> DO YOU CALL THAT A WOMAN?
>> SHE AIT A REAL WOMAN, SHE'S
A ***.
>> I'M A ***?
YOU'RE A DAMN ***.ç
>> OK, DON'T GET JEALOUS THAT I
AIN'T UP IN YOUR [BEEP] OK?
JERRY: HEY.
>> DON'T GET JEALOUS, ***.
YOU'RE JUST UPSET BECAUSE YOU'RE
BY YOURSELF AND AIN'T GOT NO
MAN.
JERRY: JIM, YOU WANTED TO SAY
SOMETHING TO MIKE?
>> I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT
I LOVE YOU.
YOU GAVE ME AN ULTIMATUM TO SEND
THEM AWAY AND I D I AND I WANT
TO BE WITH YOU.
>> I CAN SAY SOMETHING?
>> Y'ALL CAN HAVE EACH OTHER.
>> WHATEVER.
>> JIM, I TRULY DO LOVE YOU.
I KNOW FIRST IT STARTED OUT AS
SEX.
WE'VE GROWN TOGETHER.
YOU WERE THERE WHEN MY
GRANDMOTHER HAD HER STROKE.
AND I WANT TO ASK YOU ONE THING.
WILL YOU MARRY ME?
[BEEP]
>> YOU AIN'T GOT A MAN YOU FAT
*** ***.
YOU AIN'T HAVE NO --
>> WHATEVER.
JERRY: JEN, DO YOU HAVE A
REACTION?
JEN, YOU HAVE A REACTION TO
THIS?
>> THAT'S JUST SICK.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVEN RESPECTED
ME AS A PERSON, YOU WOULDN'T
HAVE DONE THAT.
>> DONE WHAT?
>> WHAT YOU JUST DID.
>> MAYBE IF YOU HAD [BEEP] I
WOULD HAVE STAYED WITH YOU.
>> MY GENITALIA HAS NOTHING TO
DO WITH RESPECT.
JERRY: WHEN WE COME BACK, THIS
MAN SAYS HE'S FALLING FOR THE
WOMAN HE'S BEEN DATING BUT WILL
HE STILL WANT HER WHEN HE FINDS
OUT THAT SHE'S REALLY A MAN?
STAY WITH US.
[BEEP]
JERRY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU.
HEY, REVEALING A SECRET CAN BE
DIFFICULT BUT HIDING IT FROM THE
ONE YOU LOVE IS WORSE.
MY GUESTS ARE HERE TO TELL THEIR
LOVERS THE TRUTH.
PLEASE MEET BRIANA.
NOW SHE WAS ON OUR SHOW A FEW
MONTHS AGO REVEALING A SECRET TO
HER BOYFRIEND.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT A CLIP.
>> I LOVE YOU A LOT.
I LOVE YOU A LOT.
AND THERE IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE
BEEN HOLDING BACK FROM YOU.
I'M A ***.
>> YOU'RE WHAT?
>> I'M A ***.
>> A WHAT?
>> I'M A ***.
>> WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THAT
IN THE BEGINNING?
>> BECAUSE I WAS FALLING IN LOVE
WITH YOU.
JERRY: BRIANA, WHAT HAS HAPPENED
-- WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THAT
SHOW?
>> WELL, ONCE WE GOT HOME, HE
WAS QUITE MAD AT ME FOR NOT
TELLING HIM UP FRONT.
HE SAID IF I WOULD HAVE TOLD HIM
AT HOME IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A
DIFFERENT STORY.
HE WOULDN'T HAVE REACTED TO ME
LIKE HE DID ON TV.
BUT HE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU
KNOW, WATCHING THE SHOW.
BUT NOW WE BROKE UP.
AND HE MOVED TO PHILADELPHIA.
AND HE'S BACK WITH HIS BABY
MOTHER.
JERRY: WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED
FROM THAT?
>> THAT IT'S NOT RIGHT TO
DECEIVE GUYS EVEN IF YOU -- YOU
KNOW.
BUT NOW, NOW I HAVE NO CHOICE
BECAUSE, YOUNOW, MILLN OF
PEOPLE LOOKED AT YOUR TV SHOW.
EVERYWHERE I GO PEOPLE KNOW ME.
EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW --
JERRY: YOU CAN'T FAKE IT?
>> I CAN'T FAKE IT NO MORE.
JERRY: BUT YOU THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT AS YOU START TO HAVE A
RELATIONSHIP BEFORE IT GETS TO
ANY LEVEL OF INTIMACY, YOU GOT
TO TELL THEM WHAT YOU REALLY
ARE?
>> UH-HUH.
JERRY: WHY ARE YOU HERE TODAY?
>> I'M HERE BECAUSE I HAVE A
FRIEND.
HER NAME IS MESHALIA.
SHE'S BEEN GOING OUT WITH THIS
BOY FOR THREE MONTHS.
AND HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY IDEA
THAT SHE'S A MAN, A ***.
AND --
[BEEP]
AND WHEN YOU MEET HER, YOU'LL
KNOW WHY.
YOU'LL KNOW WHY.
JERRY: HAVE THEY KISSED?
>> THEY KISS, YOU KNOW.
THEY HAVEN'T --
JERRY: SO HE'S KISSING HER AND
DOESN'T KNOW SHE'S A GUY?
>> HE DOESN'T KNOW SHE'S A GUY.
JERRY: OH, HE'S NOT GOING TO BE
HAPPY.
ALL RIGHT.
WELL, I'M GOING TO LET YOU TALK
TO HER.
HERE IS YOUR FRIEND MESHALIA.
JERRY: MESHALIA, WELCOME TO THE
SHOW.
>> HOW YOU ARE DOING?
JERRY: OK.
YOU KNOW YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE
YOUR FRIEND WANTS TO -- BRIANA
WANTS TO TALK TO YOU.
BRIANA, GO AHEAD.
TALK TO MESHALIA.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY TO
MESHALIA?
>> I JUST BROUGHT YOU OUT HERE
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S WRONG THAT
YOU'RE DECEIVING CURTIS AND
THINKING THAT YOU ARE A WOMAN
WHEN YOU'RE REALLY A
***.
AND YOU KNOW -- YOU KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED TO ME LAST TIME.
AND YOU KNOW THINGS LIKE THAT
CAN HAPPEN TO PEOPLE IN OUR
SITUATION.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE GOING WITH A
GUY, YOU'RE DECEIVING THEM
BECAUSE THEY THINK YOU'RE A
WOMAN.
I MEAN LOOK AT YOU.
JERRY: WHY WOULDN'T YOU GET HIS
ATTENTION IN ANY WAY YOU COULD
TO SAY, I LOVE THE FACT THAT
YOU'RE ATTRACTED TO ME.
I HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO BE
ATTRACTED TO ME.
BUT YOU OUGHT TO KNOW WHO ME
REALLY IS AND WHO ME REALLY IS A
MAN.
NOW THAT'S --
LOOK AT ME.
AND LISTEN TO ME.
JERRY: IT'S HARD TO DO?
>> VERY HARD.
JERRY: YOU WANTED HIM TO LIKE
YOU, DIDN'T YOU?
>> UH-HUH.
JERRY: AND YOU WERE AFRAID OF
WHAT HIS RESPONSE MIGHT BE?
>> NO, NOT REALLY.
THAT I'VE BEEN IN SITUATIONS
WHERE I TOLD GUYS AND THEY STILL
WANTED TO PARTICIPATE, YOU KNOW?
JERRY: WHAT DO YOU THINK --
>> I MEAN WHO WOULDN'T WANT TO?
LOOK AT ALL THIS.
JERRY: WHAT DO YOU THINK HIS
REACTION IS GOING TO BE NOW?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
JERRY: DO YOU LOVE HIM?
ZP A VERY LOT.
JERRY: YOU LOVE HIM A LOT?
>> YES.
JERRY: LET'S TAKE A BREAK.
WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL MEET
HIM.
STAY WITH US.
>> [BEEP]
YOUR BUSINESS [BEEP]
JERRY: THANK YOU.
MY GUESTS TO DAY HAVE BEEN
KEEPING SECRETS FROM THE ONES
THEY CARE ABOUT THE MOST.
HOWEVER, THEY SAY THEY'VE COME
HERE TODAY TO TELL THE ALL.
AND BRIANA HAS BEEN TELLING HER
FRIEND MESHALIA, HAVING BEEN
THROUGH THE SAME EXPERIENCE
HERSELF, THAT SHE NEEDS TO TELL
HER BOYFRIEND, THAT SHE'S REALLY
A MAN.
THEY'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR THREE
MONTHS.
AND THEY LIKE EACH OTHER.
THEY'VE KISSED.
SHE EVEN SAYS SHE LOVES HIM.
BUT HE THINKS HE'S KISSING
SOMEONE WHO'S ALL WOMAN.
AND AT THIS POINT YOU'RE NOT.
YOU WERE BORN A MAN.
AND SO YOU ARE NERVOUS?
>> YES.
JERRY: HOW DO YOU THINK HE'S
GOING TO REACT?
>> VIOLENT.
VERY VIOLENT.
>> BUT TRUST.
NOBODY THIS TIME WOULD NOT BE
THROWING A CHAIR.
JERRY: NO ONE IS THROWING
CHAIRS.
>> AT ALL.
I'M NOT HAVING IT.
JERRY: OK.
LET'S MEET OUR NEW CHIEF OF
SECURITY, BRIANA.
>> HE'S SO BAD.
JERRY: OK.
WELL, YOU GOT MORE HAIR THAN
STEVE.
OK.
SO HERE WE GO.
LET'S BRING -- YOU'RE READY TO
TELL HIM.
HERE'S YOUR BOYFRIEND OF THREE
MONTHS WITH HIS GOOD FRIEND FOR
MORAL SUPPORT.
HERE IS KURT YOUR BOYFRIEND AND
HIS FRIEND RUSTLE.
JERRY: KURT, WELCOME TO THE
SHOW.
>> WHAT'S UP?
JERRY: HOW LONG YOU HAVE KNOWN
MESHALIA?
>> WE'VE BEEN MESSING AROUND
ABOUT THREE MONTHS.
JERRY: THREE MONTHS.
AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HER?
>> I LOVE HER, I CARE FOR HER A
LOT.
JERRY: YOU CARE FOR HER A LOT?
>> YEAH.
JERRY: OK.
YOU KNOW YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE SHE
WANTS TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.
I'LL STEP OUT AND YOU CAN TALK
TO HIM.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW -- YOU'VE BEEN
THERE FOR ME A LOT AND I'VE BEEN
THERE FOR YOU.
AND I REALLY LOVE YOU A LOT.
I DON'T WANT TO LOSE YOU FOR
ANYTHING STUPID.
I ONLY THINK IT'S FAIR TO JUST
COME CLEAN WITH YOU TODAY.
AND TO SEE WHETHER YOU'RE WITH
ME OR NOT.
>> [BEEP]
>> IT GOES DEEPER THAN THAT.
I WAS BORN A MAN.
[BEEP]
>> SHE'S A MAN, RIGHT?
[BEEP]
JERRY: THOUGH THERE'S NO EXCUSE
FOR THE VIOLENCE, CERTAINLY YOU
COULD SEE WHY HE'D BE ANGRY.
>> I DON'T SEE NO REASON HE
SHOULD BE ANGRY.
I TRIED TO TELL HIM.
>> GET HIM A TISSUE.
JERRY: WHY -- YOU WERE
DISHONEST.
>> I MEAN WHEN I TRIED TO TELL
HIM, WE LOOKED AT "JERRY
SPRINGER SHOW" TOGETHER AND SAW
ALL THE TRANSSEXUALS.
I WAS TRYING TO GIVE HIM HINTS.
THEN HE DIDN'T WANT TO LISTEN.
JERRY: WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE --
>> YOU SHOULD HAVE [BEEP] TOLD
HIM.
>> [BEEP] YOU.
>> THAT'S NOT EVEN YOUR
BUSINESS.
>> YOU MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
[BEEP]
[BEEP]
JERRY: WHAT -- WHAT DO YOU WANT
TO SAY TO THEM?
>> THEY [BEEP]
DO WHATEVER.
I'M GOING TO RESPECT HER
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW --
SHE GOT TREATED LIKE A LADY.
I RESPECTED HER FOR WHAT SHE
WANTED TO BE.
I GIVE HER THAT.
BUT AS FAR AS HER TAKING ME DOWN
THE ROAD.
THINKING WE G A FUTURE OR
SOMETHING GOING, THAT'S CRUDDY
OFF THE TOP.
JERRY: AND THERE WAS NO -- THERE
WAS NO HINT --
>> NO.
JERRY: NO MATTER HOW SHE LOOKS,
WHEN I LISTEN TO THE VOICE.
>> SHE DANCED FOR ME AND G
STRINGS AND ALL THAT.
I'M LIKE, DAMN.
LOOK AT HER.
JERRY: HOW BIG WAS THE G STRING?
[BEEP]
JERRY: MEAN YOU NEVER HAD AN
IDEA?
>> NEVER.
JERRY: YOU TWO TA EACH
OTHER.
WITHOU FIGHTING.
WITHOUT FIGHTING, YOU TWO TALK
TO EACH OTHER.
OF YOU.ALK TO MESHALIA.
>> LIKE SAID, I FEEL FOR YOU
AND ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, IT CAME
FROM HERE, MY HEART, YOU KNOW?
JUST WHAT YOU DID TODAYWAS
TOTALLY DISRESPECTFUL.
I WAS HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT
EVERYTHING FROM THE START TO
TODAY.
I THINK THAT WAS WRONG WHAT YOU
DID.
JERRY: WHEN WE COME BACK, THIS
MAN WILL FIND OUT THAT THE WOMAN
THAT HE LOVES HAS BEEN CHEATING.
WHAT WILL HE SAY WHEN HE HEARS
THE NEWS?
WE'LL FIND OUT NEXT.
STAY WITH US.
AUDIENCE: JERRY!
JERRY: WELCOME BACK.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL HAD SECRETS
WE DIDN'T WANT TO TELL UNL
JUST THE RIGHT TIME.
WELL, FOR MY GUESTS TO DAY, THAT
TIME IS NOW.
THEY SAY THEY'RE HERE TO TELL
THEIR LOVERS THE TRUTH.
PLEASE MEET CHRIS.
SHE SAYS SHE LOVES HER BOYFRIEND
BUT SHE'S BEEN KEEPING SOMETHING
FROM HIM.
CHRIS, WHAT IS GOING ON?
>> I'VE BEEN SEEING SOMEONE
ELSE, TOO.
JERRY: HOW LONG --
OK.
>> BUT IT'S NOT LIKE -- IT'S NOT
A LONG TIME.
IT'S ONLY BEEN A SHORT PERIOD OF
TIME.
I JUST MOVED IN THERE.
IT'S MY ROOMMATE.
JERRY: BUT YOU STILL LOVE YOUR
BOYFRIEND?
>> YES.
I LOVE HIM.
WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR FOUR
YEARS.
I LOVE HIM A LOT.
JERRY: WHY WOULD -- BUT IF YOU
LOVE HIM, WHY WOULD YOU CHEAT ON
HIM?
>> WELL, IT'S -- I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU CONSIDER IT -- WELL, IT IS
CHEATING.
MY ROOMMATE IS A FEMALE.
JERRY: WELL, FOR THOSE VIEWERS
STILL WITH US, LET'S BRING --
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.
YOUR BOYFRIEND HAS BEEN OUTSIDE
OF THE STUDIO.
HE HAS NOT HEARD WHAT'S BEEN
GOING ON.
HE KNOWS HE'S HERE TO HEAR
SOMETHING FROM YOU.
HOW DO YOU THINK HE'S GOING TO
REACT?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
I HOPE HE DOESN'T TAKE IT TOO
HARD.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PLANS FOR THE
FEW, TOO.
SO I REALLY HOPE THAT IT DOESN'T
END IT.
JERRY: IF YOU GET IN TROUBLE,
I'LL TALK TO HIM.
OK, HERE IS YOUR BOYFRIEND, JAY.
JERRY: HI, JAY.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
>> HOW ARE YOU?
JERRY: HOW LONG YOU HAVE GUYS
BEEN TOGETHER?
>> FOUR YEARS.
>> TELL ME ABOUT YOUR
RELATIONSHIP.
>> WELL, IT'S DEFINITELY A LOT
OF FUN.
SHE'S CRAZY LIKE I AM AND WE GET
IN A LOT OF TROUBLE TOGETHER.
JERRY: I KNOW YOU'RE NOT THAT
CRAZY.
WELL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAVE
FUN TOGETHER HOW?
>> WE LIVE ON SPONTANEITY.
WE DO WHATEVER HAPPENS.
HAVE FUN WITH IT.
DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.
JERRY: DO YOU LOVE HER?
>> OH, YEAH.
JERRY: I'LL STEP OUT OF IT.
YOU GUYS CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER.
>> I HAVE TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.
>> OK.
BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU SOMETHING
FIRST.
I KNOW YOU PUT UP WITH MY CRAP A
LOT, BUT I WANTED TO ASK YOU, IF
YOU'RE NOT BUSY FOR THE NEXT
LIFETIME IF YOU'D LIKE TO MARRY
ME?
>> BUT TELL ME WHAT'S UP FIRST.
>> OK.
I LOVE YOU A LOT.
YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU A LOT.
WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR FOUR
YEARS.
WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP.
I'M VERY TRUTHFUL WITH YOU.
BUT I -- SINCE I MOVED OUT OF MY
PARENTS HOUSE, I'VE BEEN SORT OF
SEEING SOMEONE ELSE --
LIKE IT'S --
YOU KNOW THEM.
IT'S ONE OF MY --
>> THEM?
WAIT A SECOND.
>> YOU KNOW THIS PERSON.
JERRY: WHY DON'T WE JUST BRING
THE PERSON OUT IF HE KNOWS.
OK.
>> WHAT IS UP?
OH, MY GOD.
[BEEP]
JERRY: HOW DO YOU GUYS KNOW EACH
OTHER?
HOW DO YOU GUYS KNOW EACH OTHER?
>> SHE'S MY ROOMMATE.
JERRY: SO THAT'S HOW YOU KNOW
HER?
>> YES.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN FRIENDS FOR A
LONG TIME SINCE GH SCHOOL.
JERRY: OK.
YOU GUYS ARE TALKING
>> IT'S -- BU -- IT'SOT A
GUY.
OK.
BUT IT'S NOT -- IT WAS A
CURIOSITY, REALLY.
I'VE BEEN WITH YOU SINCE I WAS
15.
I'VE NEVER BEEN WITH ANYBODY
ELSE.
WE'VE HAD A MONOGAMOUS
RELATIONSHIP.
AND IT WAS -- I MOVED IN THERE.
AND ALL WE HAD ***
RELATIONSHIPS.
JERRY: BUT YOU KNOW WHAT --
>> WHOA!
JERRY: YOU HAD A ***
RELATIONSHIP WITH ALEXIS, BUT
YOU HAVE A BOYFRIEND, RIGHT?
>> YES.
MY BOYFRIEND IS ACTUALLY JAY'S
ROOMMATE.
[BEEP]
>> THAT'S THE LAST ONE.
JERRY: WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
YOU'VE BEEN OUTSIDE THE STUDIO.
YOU 8HVEN'T HEARD WHAT'S GOING
ON.
SO YOU GUYS -- YOU ARE ROOMMATES
WITH JAY, RIGHT?
[BEEP] >> RIGHT.
JERRY: YOU TWO ARE ROOMMATES?
>> RIGHT.
JERRY: OK.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH
ALESMSNISS >> ABOUT A YEAR.
YOU LIKE HER?
YOU LOVE HER?
>> YEAH.
EVERYTHING IS -- I DON'T KNOW IF
I LOVE HER.
I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
NO, SHE'S --
NO, I DO CARE ABOUT HER.
I REALLY DO.
NO, I DO CARE ABOUT HER.
SHE'S A WONDERFUL PERSON.
SHE REALLY IS.
JERRY: OK, WHY DON'T YOU --
WELL I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO
SAY THIS TO YOU.
BUT WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR A
YEAR.
IT'S BEEN THE BEST YEAR OF MY
ENTIRE LIFE.
I'M VERY HAPPY WITH YOU.
BUT YOU KNOW THAT CHRIS MOVED IN
WITH ME THREE MONTHS AGO AND
CHRIS AND I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
VERY CLOSE.
MAYBE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER THAN
YOU THINK.
WE'VE BEEN BEING INTIMATE.
I DON'T KNOW.
[BEEP]
JERRY: OK, WE'LL GET THEIR
REACTION WHEN WE COME BAC
TO TH.
JAY, WHAT'S YOUR REACTION -- ARE
YOU GUYS STILL GOING TO GET
MARRIED?
>> WHO'S THIS?
I FORGOT HER NAME ALREADY.
JERRY: WELL, THAT'S FLIPPING.
BUT IN FAIRNESS, YOU'VE BEEN
TOGETHER FOR FOUR YEARS.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU SHOULD
MARRY HER OR SHOULDN'T, BUT YOU
WOULDN'T JUST SAY, WELL, THAT'S
IT.
>> YEAH.
JERRY: IT'S OVER?
>> OK.
>> I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A
COMPETITION.
>> OK.
>> HEY, YOU KNOW?
THEY DON'T WANT A PART OF IT.
>> IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BE US
WITH, THEN WE CAN BE TOGETHER.
>> I MEAN, IF HE --
AFTER A YEAR, IF YOU'RE GOING TO
BE THAT COLD TO ME AND JUST -- I
MEAN YOU WON'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING
TO ME.
YOU JUST MOVED YOUR CHAIR.
>> WHAT'S HIS NAME HERE WITH THE
BRAIDS?
JERRY: KURT.
>> KURT, I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU
AND -- WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
JERRY: MESHALIA.
>> ARE THEY GOING TO CONTINUE TO
SEE EACH OTHER AFTER THE SHOW?
>> YES, WE ARE.
>> NO.
JERRY: OK.
WHAT'S KURT -- MESHALIA, YOU
WANT TO.
LET'S HEAR KURT'S ANSWER.
KURT?
>> LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I
RESPECT HER FOR WHO SHE, IS YOU
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
I WILL STILL TREAT HER LIKE A
LADY.
BUT AS FAR AS [BEEP] I DOUBT IT.
JERRY: YOU DON'T KNOW.
>> I DOUBT IT.
>> FOR THE GIRL ROOMMATES IN THE
CENTER, I WAS WONDERING IF YOUR
GUYS ARE WILLING, YOU WOULD LET
THEM PARTICIPATE IN YOUR LOVE
SESSIONS?
>> [BEEP]
>> I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.
WHAT DID SHE SAY?
JERRY: SHE WAS ASKING WHETHER OR
NOT YOU GUYS WOULD PARTICIPATE
IN SESSIONS WITH THEM?
>> IF THEY WOULD DO IT, I DON'T
SEE WHY NOT.
>> I HAVE ONE -- ALL RIGHT.
I WOULD RATHER JUST FIND
SOMEBODY ELSE THAT IS STRAIGHT.
>> WAIT A SECOND.
WAIT A SECOND.
WAIT A SECOND.
>> HOW CAN YOU SAY SHE'S NOT
STRAIGHT?
AFTER FOUR YEARS.
>> I AM WITH YOU.
>> SHE'S WITH YOU NOW.
>> SHE IS NOT STRAIGHT.
>> OK.
NO.
>> IF YOU WERE LAYING IN A/@ BE
WITH A WOMAN AND HAVING SEX WITH
HER, YOU ARE NOT STRAIGHT,
HONEY.
DON'T PLAY IT.
>> I'VE BEEN WITH HIM FOR FOUR
YEARS.
>> FINE.
BUT YOU AIN'T STRAIGHT.
DON'T SAY YOU'RE STRAIGHT.
>> HE WAS MY FIRST.
OUT OF CURIOSITY, YES, I HAVE TO
ADMIT.
>> CURIOSITY KILLED THE CAT.
AND HE KILLED YOU AND HE'S
MOVING ON.
>> WHY DID IT COME OUT BUSTING
EVERYBODY'S HEAD?
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
>> BECAUSE SHE'S A CONTROLLING
***.
WHEN SHE'S AROUND HIM, SHE'S
LIKE THIS AND THAT.
>> YOU SOUND GOOD.
>> WHATEVER.
WHATEVER.
>> I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OF YOU
EVER THOUGHT ABOUT AIDS?
YOU SEEM TO BE SLEEPING AROUND
WITH EVERYBODY AND ANYBODY.
>> WAIT A SECOND.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO TALK TO ME
ABOUT AIDS.
>> I CAN RESPOND TO THAT?
JERRY: YES.
>> WELL, CHRIS -- I KNOW WHERE
CHRIS HAS BEEN.
CHRIS KNOWS WHERE I HAVE BEEN.
NO.
I HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL TO HIM THE
WHOLE TIME WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER.
>> THE HELL YOU HAVEN'T.
>> JUST BECAUSE --
>> YOU'VE BEEN WITH HER.
>> IT'S NOT EVEN LIKE THAT.
>> THIS QUESTION IS FOR JIM'S
FRIEND.
DO YOU THINK YOU COULD FEEL --
YOU COULD TRUST JIM NOW AFTER HE
FLIP-FLOPPED BACK AND FORTH?
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
>> I KNOW I CAN TRUST HIM
BECAUSE I KNOW HE LOVES ME.
JERRY: I'LL BE BACK WITH A FINAL
THOUGHT.
STAY WITH US.
JERRY: THANK YOU.
LET ME TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH US.
I HOPE YOU'RE ALL ABLE TO MOVE
ON FROM HERE.
WITH NEW RELATIONSHIPS IF THE
OLD ONES DIDN'T WORK.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT THE KIND
OF SECRET YOU KEEP.
NO, UPON FIRST MEETING SOMEONE
IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO REVEAL
EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL
LIFE.
NOR IS IT NECESSARY TO WALK
AROUND WITH A HUGE SIGN AROUND
YOUR NECK OR ANY OTHER PART OF
YOUR ANATOMY ANNOUNCING YOUR
GENDER OR *** PREFERENCE TO
THE WORLD.
IN A FREE CULTURE, WE ARE
ENTITLED TO PRESENT TO ANYONE
ELSE WHAT PERSONA WE CHOOSE.
BUT IT'S NOT TOO HARD TO
UNDERSTAND WHY WHEN AN
QUAINTANCE TURNS INTO THE
POTENTIAL OF SOMETHING MORE,
WHEN THERE'S ABOUT TO BE A KISS
OR ANY OTHER OF ROMANTIC
TOUCHING, THE PERSON SHOWING
SUCH AN INTEREST IN YOU IS
ENTITLED TO KNOW THAT WHAT HE
THINKS HE'S SEEING IS NOT
EXACTLY WHAT HE'S GETTING.
YES, REVEALING THE TRUTH ABOUT
YOURSELF MAY CAUSE YOU TO LOSE
THIS PERSON YOU WANT, BUT IF YOU
WANT HIM TO LOVE YOU, YOU SURELY
WANT HIM TO LOVE THE REAL YOU,
NOT SOMEONE YOU'RE PRETENDING TO