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Announcer: Welcome back to The David Pakman Show.
David: Welcome back to the best of The David Pakman Show 2010. We're going through all
the best and favorite interviews that we've done. Later on, Louis will be guest-hosting
the bonus show. Remember when that guy was going to burn Korans on 9/11? His name was
Terry Jones, and we actually had him on the show. Not to pat ourselves on the back, but
we did have him on before the story completely blew up and he was on every single news channel
and doing press conferences. That is true, is it not?
Louis: It is true.
David: He was on very early on here.
Louis: That's right, because I sent you the information very early.
David: That's true. And we have a clip where he actually goes into, not only does he have
a problem with Muslims, but it seems to be par for the course with a lot of these guys,
Jews and homosexuals are also going to Hell.
I'm just saying, what portion of the Muslims now do you believe are violent?
Terry Jones: I have no idea.
David: You don't know. So it could be just a handful, you wouldn't know?
Jones: I would not know, but the point is, the point is the Sharia law. That is actually
what we are against. We are against the Moslim faith because it leads to Hell and it's not
Christianity, it's not Jesus, it's not the only way. We are not saying...
David: So are all Muslims going to Hell?
Jones: Yes.
David: Every-- whether they're violent or not?
Jones: Yes, of course.
David: OK. And how about Jews, are Jews going to Hell?
Jones: Yes.
David: Jews are also going to Hell.
Jones: Yes.
David: And what about homosexuals?
Jones: Homosexuals also.
David: OK, who isn't going to Hell?
Jones: This is not my determination. The Bible says Jesus is...
David: No, I know it's not, it's just the word of God, I understand.
Jones: Yeah, and this is actually what all Christians either believe or should believe
or silently believe or afraid to say something.
David: Anybody else...
Jones: Jesus said, "I am the only way." That's what he said.
David: Anybody else you want to throw in here? African Americans, I mean, who else do we
want to throw in?
Jones: Well, everybody who is not born again, has not been forgiven by Jesus, yes, of course,
that's what the Bible says. How far have we come in America...
David: You tell me.
Jones: That is somehow an issue. That is what the Bible says, it's not what I say. There
is only one way, and that way is through Jesus Christ. That is what every Christian or Christian
church should believe, has to believe. Why is that a surprise?
David: Couldn't somebody be gay and Christian?
Jones: No.
David: They couldn't.
I really had forgotten, Louis, since we did that interview several months ago, when was
that interview, it was back in August, how insane that guy is. You know, I really had
forgotten about it.
Louis: Yeah. Nutcase.
David: The only one more insane than that that I can really think of is Glenn Miller,
and Glenn Miller was the guy who was running in... where was he even... in Missouri, right,
as a-- for Senate.
Louis: Right.
David: And his whole thing was the Jews are the problem for everything.
Louis: Right. Now, what... in my eyes, what makes Glenn Miller even crazier is that there's
no religious zealotry here.
David: No, no.
Louis: It's just pure racism and hatred. Yeah.
David: That's exactly right. He's not-- don't be confused that this is at all tinged with
religion. For once, we may have found an insane candidate who hates entire groups of people
and it has nothing to do with religion. Go figure.
Louis: The craziest thing about this guy is that he thought he actually had a chance of
winning.
David: Nah, he didn't really. All these guys say they could win. And by the way, this is
an interview which some people, this started some people contacting me saying by interviewing
someone like this, you are giving them a platform, something which has been said about the anti-gay
candidates, the anti-semitic candidates, so on and so forth, something I've rejected flat-out,
because these people would not go away if I didn't talk to them. And believe me, more
people are getting a negative perception of them than positive from the interviews we're
doing. Let's take a look.
Now, how-- I'm Jewish, and I know that, by the way, I'm telling my producer here because
he's not up to speed on this, after Glenn...
Glenn Miller: So you know, then. You...
David: Hold on a second. Hold on a second, Glenn. After we confirmed our interview with
Glenn, Glenn posted on a white supremacist forum that he'd be on the show, and then other
people on the forum started researching me, and a few of them found articles that pointed
to me having ancestors in Eastern Europe and they said yep, this guy is a Jew. And so my
question to you is, how can I get in on this power? I'm Jewish, I feel completely powerless.
Who can I talk to, where can I go, where are the meetings? I would love to get in on that
power myself.
Miller: Well, you're born with... all the big Jews discriminate in favor of other Jews,
that's why there's so many Jews in the mass media, for example.
David: But why am I...
Miller: Why there's so many Jews in the federal government.
David: But I'm powerless. Where can I... where are the meetings?
Miller: You're not powerless. You're not powerless, you've got your own damn radio show, you're
on 70 radio stations. You call that powerless?
David: Believe me, I have no power.
Miller: Yeah, right. That's what Howard Stern said, and he's a Jew liar just like you are.
David: Well, I'm not lying, I'm just telling you I don't know where the meetings are...
Miller: Well, you're insulting the intelligence of your listeners when you're saying you have
no power but yet you speak on 70 radio stations.
David: Yeah, but a lot of those stations are really small.
Miller: You still have power.
David: OK. Let's talk about... Glenn...
Miller: But you know, Patrick Buchanan, you're familiar with Patrick Buchanan.
David: How could I not be?
Miller: He refers to the United States Congress as Israel's amen corner, and to Capitol Hill
as Israeli occupied territory.
David: Let me stop you right there. Glenn...
Miller: Patrick Buchanan. He's a great man, he's a great historian, he's one of the very
few journalists that has the courage to speak out against Jewish domination of the country.
David: Let's not talk about... I want to focus on your history, because again, you are running
for Senate in Missouri, you believe that you have a chance to win?
Miller: Oh, yes. Absolutely. There's a lot of changes that have occurred in the last
few years that make it possible for a radical politician like me to win elections.
David: Tell us... let's go...
Miller: There are a lot of fed-up white people out there, let me tell you.
David: Well, no, let's go through it. Let's talk about your arrest in 1987. Was that a...
Miller: [Laughs] Oh, here you go, attacking me personally, now.
David: No, no, no...
Miller: You can't debate the facts with me, so you're going to...
David: I just...
Miller: That's very ***-alike.
David: I... Glenn, hold on, let's calm down. I... what I want to do is just set your background,
because we need to know the background. Was that a felony or a misdemeanor?
Miller: Oh, felony.
David: It was a felony. So...
Miller: I'm a convicted felon, and I'm proud of it, by the way.
David: All right, so there's Glenn Miller. Probably the most insane interview of the
entire year, right?
Louis: By far.
David: Yeah.
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