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how do we research it?
Dr. Abd al-Hameed an-Najdee
Knowledge of chains of narrations with the Shee`a
An-Najdee: This hadeeth with us is weak, why?
Because it has an unknown,
and every hadeeth that has in its chain of narrators an unknown
then it is weak.
Because it has Aboo `Amr al-A`jamee.
Aboo `Amr al-A`jamee,
research to the books of men (narrators of hadeeth) in the madhhab of Ahl al-Bayt, peace be upon them,
that was authored by the highly knowledgeable scholars,
you will find that Aboo `Amr al-A`jamee is unknown
and because of this it is weak.
So now I…
Khamees: …page 39, Mohammed Baaqi al-Majlasee, he says…
An-Najdee: Did you authenticate the narration? Authentic? Weak?
I say if is authentic… I say, you are obligated by what I say.
Ad-Damashqee: … the Companions, did he authenticate it?
An-Najdee: My dear I am talking about…
At-Tijaanee: I authenticated everything! I authenticated everything!
Khamees: Right now I’m talking about this, right now I’m talking about this…
An-Najdee: With every narration you bring you have to say,
“Authentic, weak, missing a link in the chain.”
Khamees: I am not a scholar of your hadeeth,
you tell me whether its authentic or not.
An-Najdee: I am discussing with you the basics of ahadeeth!
Khamees: No, no, no, he discussed with you…
An-Najdee: I am talking with you now, I tell you this, you tell me that.
I am talking with you right now.
I tell you this you tell me that.
Khamees: I am basing it on his (at-Tijaani) previous actions, do you mind?
Khamees: I am of the belief…
Excuse me, Dr. (The moderator) excuse me…
I am of the belief
that there is no knowledge of hadeeth with you (the Shee`a),
nor do you have chains of narration.
This is what I believe.
At-Tijaanee: Firstly, this person is constantly lying and making false accusations,
because he relays to us narrations that have no basis for their authenticity,
and even the Shee`a do not admit to it.
Because with al-Kulaynee (author of al-Kaafee),
everything with al-Kulaynee, al-Kulaynee…
because all of the Shee`a scholars state that what is with al-Kulaynee, two-thirds of it is weak.
This is not…
we come to him with al-Bukhaaree and Muslim,
the most authentic of books,
and he comes to us with al-Kulaynee.
Listen to what he says…
Ad-Damashqee: Abu Hanifa was holding a sword and he was threatening him…
An-Najdee: Which reference? Which page?
Ad-Damashqee: Al-Kaafee, the Eighth Rawdah, page 892.
An-Najdee: He said, “That Naasibee…”
Look, you have to see what the chain of narrators is…
is it weak, is it…
you have to state the chain of narrators.
Ad-Damashqee: He says…
I’m going to leave the chain of narrators to you.
An-Najdee: No! You have to say, you have to say.
Khamees: There are no chains of narrators in Al-Kaafee.
An-Najdee: No, it is there, the chain of narrators is available.
Ad-Damashqee: I don’t have the book, do you have the book, "Al-Kaafee"?
An-Najdee: I don’t have it with me.
Ad-Damashqee: You came without your weapons?
An-Najdee: al-Hamdulilah, I’ve brought books,
but not these lies that you make false accusations with.
Ad-Damashqee: Inshaa’Allah it will be made clear.
Al-Hamdulilah, you will be able to.
An-Najdee: Are you saying this hadeeth is authentic with us (Shee'a)?
Is this hadeeth authentic?
Ad-Damashqee: I told you its in al-Kaafee.
An-Najdee: Not everything in al-Kafee is authentic…
Of course!
Ad-Damashqee: Really? So you hold on to it… Wait, wait, wait!
Don’t interrupt me…
Khamees: Then, if it was like that,
this book that is with them, the most authentic book;
then how can we take the words of the infallibles?
We take the words of the infallibles from the chains of narrations in al-Kaafee.
Al-Kafee, of which its chains of narrators they rely on…
actually I don’t know if they rely on it or not.
From the chains of narrations in al-Kafee on the authority of `Alee, may Allah be pleased with him,
that `Ofayr came to him,
`Ofayr is the donkey of the Messenger,
O Allah send peace and blessings upon him,
that `Ofayr came to `Alee, may Allah be pleased with him,
so he said,
“Oh Leader of the Believers.”
I mean, `Alee narrating on the authority of `Ofayr, he said:
`Ofayr spoke to Allah’s Messenger, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him,
this is a chain of narration with them in al-Kafee,
`Ofayr spoke to the Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him,
so he said,
“I would sacrifice my father and mother for you O Allah’s Messenger…”
A donkey says to the Prophet,
“I would sacrifice my father and my mother…”
He said, “I would sacrifice my father and mother for you O Allah’s Messenger,
my father narrated to me,
on the authority of his father,
on the authority of his grandfather,
on the authority of Noah’s donkey…”
That he was with Noah on the Boat
and Noah wiped his back and said,
“A donkey will come forth from the descendants of this donkey who will be ridden by the Leader of the Prophets and Messengers.”
“Al-Hamdulilah that He made me that donkey.”
These are the chains of narrations for al-Kafee;
chains of narrations from donkeys!
Then, if you wanted to research…
don’t interrupt…
if you wanted to research this chain of narrators,
where do you go?
“Book of Animals?”
We’ll read the book, “The Life of the Animal” by al-Dumayree.
So we can research this chain of narration.
These two ask about the chains of narration,
“Is it authentic? Is it weak?”
We want to know, the chain of narration for this hadeeth:
how do we research it?