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welcome back to twenty twelve we and turn our focus now to the twelfth
district the new leads redrawn twelfth district of pennsylvania and we're
joined today
by congressman mark creates a congressman thank you so much for being
with us uh... this morning to talk about a of primary that i'm sure you wish you
didn't have to run this year
well you know it's funny i appreciate the opportunity to to be on with your
naked certified because two years ago i went through a lot
a special election and then a general election in the same year in a job that
you know everyone should be have to go through to big elections every year
every cycle caused so much fun whenever but being that it was going to happen
again so it
not i'd prefer to be able to go through a primary without a fight but uh...
you know and that's where we're used to this sort of lost cedar to every
redistricting spur every sense is for the past several years
uh... careful what you wish for just what can i wanna talk you just for a
very frankly what it's like running against a colleague of course you're
trying to
highlight one another's differences as as you would if you are running against
anyone
but what it what is the uh... e
this is not just a primary where someone you don't know is john g this is a
colleague and and you're going up against each other tapping around the
country in different places in california there's even more the most
expensive races in the country is going to be between
pressure and howard berman what what is the the puts it how does it feel we wait
or the more you know you have to run against someone who's
essentially i don't know i don't know personally but in the uh... what kind of
a friend he is but
he's a cali is a guy you've worked with these a day in your delegation what's
that like
well it it makes it a little bit nervous for obviously you know
and two thousand six uh...
uh... when i was working for jack murtha what i mean we helped jason quite a bit
to help them get elected
and then in two thousand ten in the special
he actually helped me uh... going door-to-door in his home neighborhood of
laurel
until we get elected so
you know it makes it a little bit of awkward i'll try to look at it and not
us
sort of a personal issue
but more as like a football game or sporting
event is that uh... you do the best job we can
and you know obviously in an election you try to separate yourself to make
sure you point out the differences but you know at the end of the day someone
has to when someone has to lose
and you just hear your best shot to make sure they didn't you leave
everything on the field that uh... you know you do everything you can
brian this is an important role so i'm doing everything that i can get to them
to stay here because i think that works too young to do
and uh... and that's what i want and i want to talk a little bit about that
work i want to talk about
but some of the differences in some of what you see both politically and
policy-wise going forward
uh... where you to win but let let's talk about the election you know um...
etc it's a funny state pennsylvania because
you you turn out to a pro
uh... a pro-choice
uh... republic in the electoral in in the senate you elect a pro-lifer
democrat in the senate on the same day that al gore wins in two thousand
rates and forum wins in two thousand i i i find it one of the most puzzling
political state in the country
uh... you are a pro-life congressman uh... and uh... and you're in that ***
i don't like to say crosshairs anymore so will say you're in the uh... the
bounder on
in the sites of of uh... of planned parenthood because of your uh... desire
to be fun
uh... planned parenthood how does that play both within your party within your
statement that this is obviously conviction for you
but where it will be how does a play politically wise pennsylvania like that
well the western pennsylvania is i would say the traditional
uh... you know you could even say kennedy democrats uh...
uh... where the democrats in western pennsylvania for the most part
or as conservatives are more conservative even then republicans from
the eastern part of a state of the philadelphia area
uh... and that sort of our blue collar uh... steelworker or or labor
uh... background that we have and uh...
uh... you know uh... the vast majority of this district uh... is pro-life
although are you know the uh... in a democratic primary obviously
uh... claim paraphrase a little bit larger
you know what gets lost in the debate many times is that uh...
them different legislation that i've sponsored other different missions that
i've supported
uh... supported at women's health issues from over and over you know the pregnant
uh... woman's act the hard act which goes after heart disease are hard for
women act uh... uh... you know the uh... i voted against the defining title ten
offense brought up last year i supported women's health programs throughout the
military rulers preventive care uh... whether it's on building of facilities
that are women specific whether it's mental health whether it's uh... a
*** violence uh... programs uh...
you know obviously
uh... i support and have supported through my entire career
education program of caring contraception
but like you said i'm pro-life and and one thing that
that bothers me about some of the discussion that's happened is that
you know exactly where and why stand i don't i don't hide behind anything
in my apartment unfortunately
and has been almost running as a pro-choice candidate but he's pro-life
as well and and uh...
in every minute and last year there was a bill came up that he voted to uh...
support uh... health insurance companies
or or uh... to allow health insurance companies to
uh... deny coverage for cost contraception so
what i do is on
i wear a nicely in ohio who i am uh... uh... western pennsylvania is
conservative
both democrat and republican in fact i think democrats republicans and west
answering it
are probably more similar than in many parts of the country uh... but uh... in
this campaign has become an issue and i think part of it is uh... or the part
that this uh...
they guessed disingenuous i think is that
exactly who i say i am and sometimes michael and i think he's trying to play
both sides of this uh... this equation
that emma and i see that in and you know i just what i what i want to ask you
because the that's my job to too
explain a little about about how planned parenthood
differs from all the support for women's rights and listen your plan along game
here if you get the nomination
uh... and you're going to you're going to be in the general election in
november
this is by all accounts and by everyone and in my business and everyone from the
outside said this is the year of the woman uh... in one way or the other they
say that that's the case because of the way the women's issues have really come
to the for the in the g_o_p_ primary up but but how is planned parenthood for
somebody who supports women's rights as much as you do and health care rights
when planned parenthood is essentially a health care
vehicle for women what where where is the differentiation
well they are also the largest provider of iron proportions in the country
and other than for
the health of the monitor the life of the mother a *** and *** i'm
pro-life also well you know i did try to work with planned parenthood i asked
them because this is going to be a political football or i think as long as
you can uh...
that you want to talk about it and if there's a way to separate that peace out
uh... i think that it would make it
everyone's life a little easier because the work that they do is vastly working
uh... but uh... you know i i can't change who i am you know this is going
on
ourselves you know rerouting
while in congress one of things i'm trying to do is
is my focus is not so much on social issues you many times republicans like
to use the social issues to divide and conquer
you know what my focus has been is on the economy and jobs and that's really
what i've been doing is trying to work
to help the economy of our region of our nation comeback right
supporting those kinds of programs so you know i i
almost feel like dominate republican
or general election here because we're trying to use social issues to divide
and conquer
well let's go to some of the issues that are not socially phys ed the talking to
talk and i want to talk about about natural gas one part of tracking a
little bit
it's another images that is dividing people and and uh... you know it's it's
a big in your state with a lot of the franking stories that have come out
uh... both the negatives in the positive will come out of the state of
pennsylvania and a layer of shale
um... and uh... your you would support
i want noble alarming you talk about what what what is your feeling about
tracking and
how how do you come to that decision
welcome to give her credit background on and on the co-chair of the marsala shell
gas caucus in congress
i'm also the co-chair of the ohio ever basin in congress
the the merciless shelling and actually believe that we have are what's called a
year to show
is rich in natural gas and other gases
uh... and it isn't
opportunity both economically and from an energy standpoint
in this country that we can't uh... afford
uh... to not take advantage of two to grab ahold of this opportunity move
forward
in as we see gasoline prices go up you know the natural gas than powered
vehicles can help us move from dependence on foreign energy sources in
western pennsylvania
not only do we have uh...
uh... the natural gas play but we also have colin this region we have
nuclear expertise with some westinghouse which was five thousand people in the
area
we had to make center ji which does lend
uh... energy
and we have solar power solar panel company down in the end of month alexa
of southwest has been
so we have an energy
uh... solution i guess you could say in western pennsylvania now going back to
my soul show what you're asking about
one of the reasons i'm also co-chair of the ohio river basin caucuses that
not only our water resources so important from an economic standpoint i
mean our rivers are the transportation
sort of backbone
uh... river system online in modeling pennsylvania patrol prior to the uh...
mississippi river
but we've come a long way in pennsylvania and you know i grew up with
a warm skies in our strengths and you know something to realize that's
probably not good for us so we've come a long way in cleaning up the streams
uh... cleaning up our environment
in the reason i joined
and become co-chair of the harbor basin caucuses our waiter water resources
or so important from a health and welfare standpoint to so
you have to
unless a competing because
with marsalis shell when they throw a m
a well
it's about five to seven million dollar investment
it's in their economic best interests not to have that while filed by
following the watergate were dependent so you have more of an education the
marcela shows anywhere between five and ten thousand feet below the surface the
water tables in the first ten thousand it's arches make the first one thousand
feet
so it's about the case he's already micah said it's economically
disastrous for them if they follow our table cuz that means that just lost of
million dollar five two seven million dollar well
so that's one thing that's actually in our favor on you know years ago when
cole was coming through it was in their best interest to do is cheaply as
possible to get rid of the waste oil for
or natural gas
it's actually
better for them to do it right the first time and what i do is work with these
more social companies at the top the the the the owners
to make sure that they pushed the culture of safety
and environmental safety down through their subcontractors and that's where
many times you have these accidents is that the subcontractors try to cut
corners
and when i push with them and i've seen a lot of it through the industry
is that these guys know that both if they follow
uh... welfare they do follow-up
they're not there were any more in this industry so
you were saying it worked out
it's heavy industry though i mean you you have a keep that in
now that's what i don't know what is the people who say they will yes so you know
the the them boil companies in the gulf and send them to do not have accidents
in the gulf and then when they do it in obviously economically environmentally
devastating
uh... it would powell
how do people get the assurance from their representative in congress of that
person happens to be you going forward
that their water is as protected as the rights of the people that are grilling
and the end of the businesses in the in the economic interests of the people
that are gone
well one thing is i was saying before our call that we've come a long way in
the state
is that western pennsylvania actually pennsylvania's d_p_ department varma
production
doesn't really really good job they're very stringent and i can tell you as a
staffer to a congressman before
i received more complaints about the e_p_a_ because they were so stringent
than any other agency that that we don't wait so
we do it right here in pennsylvania you know obviously
there has to be oversight uh... that has to be done right
d_p_s_ i think done a good job of women when they did more social for starr was
almost like the gold rush was happening so fast
ryan
you know that's one year from dachshunds because there's less people want to
brown from an oversight standpoint
but i think what we've seen is that
yes there's going to be accidents i mean it's its heavy industry tom
but i i think we've seen agood java of managing what's going on
what i'm trying to do is a member of congress is that
if there are issues
you know what my job is to be responsive to find out what the issue is
and going to make sure that
if the oversight wasn't good enough for work we need to tweak something that we
do it
and that we make sure that that homeowner that constituent
who it is who elected to represent that they know that we're watching out for
them and that we're doing our best to make sure that uh...
there is no accidents if possible
uh... i mean that man that sounds like a dream through a very reasonable and
that's in warm when they see a real approach in the day in involving the use
of her time we've logan
uh... as you said you were recent where it on the sleeve inured your you speak
in real terms a it is an imperfect science of they're doing with this
tracking and i think i have a congress in the new knowledge is that the
imperfections of it
uh... will also seen the benefits is probably to the best interest of of the
person who will undoubtedly feel like a small person when they're walters
contamination there be an axe and i personally and and and and not
convinced of wrecking yet uh...
and uh... because of that but i i i understand what you're saying
i want to ask you of that what you've done something that i uh... that i
applaud which is this is the the the social security plans of the the you
pledge
uh... knots of monkey with social security act how how difficult will do
you do you know it's a a listing of george h w bush with no new taxes them
will look what happened at the brace attached how difficult will be the stick
to that date what what what's the situation which you think it will be
difficult to sit sit to that
more one of things that are trying to make sure that we
well that we do is that
you know when you talk about expenses
that you know that the federal government which is just like any other
budget it's a lesser system you know you have expenses and you have revenues
one of things that bothers me about all the discussions as that
or one you know so secure is an entitlement almost on a time when you
get into it
based on entitlement not getting something for nothing you pay into it
but its insurance it's not a pension now you know obviously with the uh... the
young
uh... baby boomers retire now wouldn't you know this is the system is being
stressed and we have to look at it in a long term
of you
the their couple of things that happen over the past year
really incentivize me to make sure that social security and medicare aren't the
first part of the discussion
is that
you know last year we had the uh... the uh... the democratic alternative budget
uh... the christan home put forth
in i support that wholeheartedly because
it was a fair way to move forward and what it did was ended the
bush tax cuts for the very wealthy
and i have to tell you something to do so security to the class today
again i did two years ago i did it again today
in and when i'm trying to talk about it when i talk to these people bonds look
there are willing to sacrifice
if everybody's sacrificing you know this is world country with the united states
of america we're not the united states of the ninety nine percent of the united
states of the one percent
is everybody and everybody has to share in the sacrifice in enormous insight
concentrate on and i said this earlier is that
its economy and jobs we get more people back to work
you get more money coming into the system it makes a lot of these problems
a little easier to solve because you'd you've got a little more wiggle room but
you know and one of peace that barbie this year
was that uh... of mother the gentlemen i'm running against islam actually
support the republican balanced budget amendment
which would be devastating these programs and it's just shocking to me
the fellow work right you know and i have to tell you i have a portrait of
franklin d_ roosevelt ran into my office in d_c_
i know who i am and i know how we got here and i know
how this country was building was built one of the accident also asked lauren
our senior citizens
and we have to make sure
they were doing everything we can
to do exactly what so stream medicare have been doing
keeping them out of poverty
it's about working your entire life and having something that when you do retire
that you can survive till you die that it's not going to be
uh... that you're gonna end up in the poorhouse you're going to lose every
that you've bought so you know my take is that book
let's talk like recently
people let's figure this out and i go back again to the clinton years is that
you know they shrunk the size of government they they reduce spending i
supported reduce spending
but they also produces a budget that produced surpluses so we are capable of
doing our job i don't think we need some
gimmick like the roof of the republican balanced budget amendment
to make us do our job it's actually sort of saying
like what we can do our job so don't pass a lot of forces to force us to do
it again i i uh... we're saying okay so uh... before we let you go down the
family and we are again we're delighted you joined us here and we we we will
follow in this race and we realize that our audience gets to hear
uh... what you have to say and of course i can listen to a pittsburgh accent of
although that has been plays a part of that
just a downtown goes i want it's my favorite one
uh... there you know i thought i heard back i i like non comp uh... and and and
terrible towel can you say that one for us fair
that way and and i mean it's not that terrible policy one i like uh... but
anyway i want to give you our our what we give to every candidate it's uh...
the world's easiest quiz it's about your district
uh... i want you to tell me this year was the thirty-fifth year of the
testable in beaver county celebrating what famous breakfast item
mixer maple syrup you would need your one for one right now there are trying
to
well you went to it i haven't even better of course you did your the
congressman art
there at the the that they farm sharon legally them
polycom
they're named for other u_s_ states edition an end to the u_s_ states i'll
give you live this is where i start giving hints
northwest
washington d uh... washington are right and the other one is wet washington
miker esther it's in my current distributor continuity a arrived and i
are not and then uh... the university in what ion that's also named after uh...
those states
well protective ok unionist
uh... we'll get it also waiting out in the end of that so really exactly
lead then either
in what city it was the nineteen seventies
paul newman
hockey movie slap shot filmed
hearts and minds on john's happy you got it man three for three actually really
four fried pork is a god
five for five days university we didn't even know was in your district with the
state you know that all i know systems here to well well well really wild there
are so that's for the next anti-foreign two years only your reelection word on
the internet
uh... congressman uh... marcus thank you so much up for being with us a
twenty-two uneven lightened our our viewers
and uh... and we look forward to talking to you uh... as we get close to the
general election revisiting things as if they play out that way okay sir
thank you very much for having me are really appreciate the opportunity obtain
good luck at table twenty four th
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