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>>JIM: WELL, ITS TIME FOR THE PLAYOFFS IN THE NBA.
>>KANOA: YEAH. >>JIM: YOURE A SPURS MAN.
YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN A SPURS MAN.
I LIKE THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS.
THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS. THATS MY TEAM.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN THE WARRIORS EVER SINCE THEY WERE IN
PHILADELPHIA. THEY WERE THE PHILADELPHIA
WARRIORS. THEN THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS.
BEFORE THAT THE SAN FRANCISCO WARRIORS.
AND NEXT YEAR, THEYRE GOING TO BE TO MOVE TO SAN FRANCISCO AND
BE THE SAN FRANCISCO WARRIORS AGAIN.
WARRIORS, A TERRIFIC NICKNAME. >>KANOA: YOUVE GOT TO RESPECT
THEIR RESPECT FOR NICKNAME TRADITION.
>>JIM: THATS TRUE. ITS VERY RARE.
>> YOU NEVER KNOW WHOS GOING TO BE SITTING AT THE KITCHEN TABLE
ON LEAHEY & LEAHEY. A GENERATIONALLY CHALLENGED
DISCUSSION ON SPORTS AND OTHER LIVING THINGS.
LEAHEY & LEAHEY. >>KANOA: WHATS UP, EVERYBODY.
WELCOME TO ANOTHER EDITION OF LEAHEY & LEAHEY RIGHT HERE ON
PBS HAWAII. POPS JIM, SON KANOA SITTING AT
THE LEAHEY KITCHEN TABLE AND WERE GOING TO HAVE THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HHSAA CHRIS CHUN.
THEY HAVE ABOUT NINE TOURNAMENTS.
WERE GOING TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT
THE UTTER MOST DETAILS REGARDING EACH AND EVERY ONE.
>>JIM: HES GOT TO GIVE THE OPENING REMARKS AT EVERY ONE.
THANK YOU FOR COMING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
>>KANOA: HIS GOAL IS TO TRY TO MAKE AN APPEARANCE.
THEYRE NOT ALL ON THE SAME ISLANDS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE AND YET HES STILL MAKING TIME
FOR US. GOT TO LOVE THAT.
>>JIM: THATS TRUE. HES ALMOST HERE NOW.
>>KANOA: LETS GET INTO THE HOT TOPICS.
WERE GOING TO START WITH SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN VERY HOT
OVER THE LAST 48 HOURS. APPLE TURNOVERS.
IN A STUNNING STATEMENT THAT DEFINITELY HAS DOMINATED SPORTS
CAULK RADIO OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS, U.H. CHANCELLOR TOM APPLE
TOLD MARK ARAKAKI THE SCHOOL COULD DROP ATHLETIC PROGRAMS IN
DIVISION I BECAUSE HE SAYS IF WERE NOT BREAKING EVEN IN THREE
YEARS, THEY ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT TO
STAY, CONTINUE AT THE DIVISION I LEVEL.
POPS, THERES NO SECRET REGARDING THE FINANCIAL ISSUES
OF THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII. THEY HAVE BEEN RUNNING AT A
DEFICIT FOR SOME TIME NOW. THEYVE HAD A CHALLENGE IN TERMS
OF ATTENDANCE AT VARIOUS SPORTS. STUDENT ATTENDANCE HAS BEEN
SLIPPING IN RECENT YEARS. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THESE
COMMENTS BY THE CHANCELLOR? >>JIM: NOTICE MY FACE.
IM NOT A HAPPY MAN. >>KANOA: NOW WE CAN SEE YOUR
EXPRESSION BETTER BECAUSE OF THE CLEAN SHADES.
>>JIM: YOU LIKE THAT? THIS IS WHAT IM LOOKING AT.
IM SICK AND TIRED OF CARPET BAGGERS COMING INTO THE
UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII AND ALL OF A SUDDEN SETTING POLICY AFTER A
VERY SHORT TIME WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING ANYTHING.
WITHOUT LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS TO SOLVE PROBLEMS.
AND YOU SEE THIS WITH THE CHANCELLOR AND YOU SEE THIS NOW
WITH THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR. HES GOING TO STICK BY HIS GUNS
AND MAKE IT THE WARRIORS. THE SOLUTION HERE, THE ONLY
SOLUTION, THE ONLY LOGICAL SOLUTION TO THE NICKNAME PROBLEM
IS TO SAY WERE GOING TO CALL IT THE RAINBOW WARRIORS AND THE
RAINBOW WAHINE. DONE.
FINISHED. BUT, NO, HES GOT TO HAVE HIS
WAY. SPEAKING OF THE A.D.
THIS THING BY MR. APPLE IS A KIND OF A CHALLENGE TO ALL OF
THE OTHERS. YOU DONT DO IT, IM GOING TO DO
THIS. WAIT A MINUTE, HOW LONG HAVE YOU
BEEN HERE? HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN GOING ON?
WHAT OTHER SOLUTIONS DO YOU HAVE?
AND THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 1907, OVER A
HUNDRED YEARS. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET
SOMEBODY FROM THE UNIVERSITY EDUCATED AT THE UNIVERSITY TO
BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY?
WHY MUST WE PAY $109,000 TO FIND SOME CARPET BAGGER TO COME IN
AND SET POLICY FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII?
COULD IT BE THAT THE PROBLEMS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII RESTS
WITH THIS KIND OF PHILOSOPHY? AND WHERE DOES PONO COME FROM?
>>KANOA: COUPLE OF THINGS. WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE
NICKNAME. WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE
TOM APPLE STATEMENT. THE 109 YOURE REFERRING TO
WHICH PAID FOR THE SEARCH FIRM WHO FOUND MRC GREENWOOD.
THAT KIND OF MONEY THAT HAB -- THAT HAS BEEN THROWN INTO THE
MIX WHEN IT COMES TO FILLING THE ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS, AND
THEY HAVE, FOR THE MOST PART, GONE TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
EDUCATEED, WHO HAVE GROWN UP, WHO HAVE -- WHO ARE PEOPLE WHO
ARE NATIVE TO OTHER PLACES. AND SO, YEAH THE QUESTION THEN
BECOMES HOW MUCH OF AN UNDERSTANDING FOR THIS PLACE,
FOR THIS CULTURE IS THERE? TO ME, ITS A LOT MORE SIMPLE
THAN THAT ITS JUST THE FACT THAT IF YOU ARE RUNNING WHAT IS
ESSENTIALLY A CAMPUS, A MAJOR UNIVERSITY CAMPUS IN THIS CASE
U.H. MANOA AND YOU HAVE CERTAIN INTERESTS IN ATHLETICS AS WELL
AS THE CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY, WHEN YOU START
PUTTING OUT WHAT CAN BE TRANSLATED AS AN ULTIMATUM TO
FANS BECAUSE THEYRE NOT SHOWING UP AND WHEN YOU START SAYING
WERE GOING TO NEED MORE CONTRIBUTORS AND YOU START
MAKING THOSE DEMANDS, THATS NOT HOW YOU GO ABOUT RUNNING WHAT
CAN BE EQUATED TO A BUSINESS. THATS WHAT THIS VENTURE
ULTIMATELY IS, ITS ABOUT MONEY. ITS ABOUT THE MONEY THAT
ALLOWED ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT TO FLOURISH IN CONNECTION WITH ALL
OF THE OTHER SYSTEMS AT UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII MANOA
CAMPUS SPECIFICALLY. MY PROBLEM IS THATS NOT ON THE
FANS. WE ALREADY KNOW THE FANS CAN BE
FICKLE IN HAWAII. THIS IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL COLLEGE
TOWN IF YOU TRY TO COMPARE IT TO AN ARBOR OR SOUTH BEND.
ITS JUST NOT BUILT THAT WAY. THE ONUS GETS THROWN TO THE
UNIVERSITY. TO PUT A BETTER PRODUCT ON THE
FIELD. TO SELL THIS PRODUCT TO THE
COMMUNITY. AND TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ALLOW
THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT TO OPERATE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
I DONT THINK YOU CAN THROW IT ALL ON THE FANS AND SAY IF YOU
DONT SHOW UP, WERE DROPPING DOWN.
I UNDERSTAND THERES A DESIRE FOR THEIR SUPPORT TO BE
UNCONDITIONAL, BUT IN REALITY WEVE SEEN SO MANY DISCONNECTS
AND THIS IS ALMOST A SEGUE IN THE MAKE NAME ISSUE THAT I FEEL
THAT THE UNIVERSITY HAS TO TAKE THE FIRST STEP IN HEALING SOME
OF THESE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
>>JIM: THATS RIGHT. YOU CANNOT HAVE PEOPLE SHOW UP
AND MAKE ULTIMATUMS AFTER A VERY SHORT TIME OF BEING IN THE JOB.
BOTH IN THE ATHLETIC DIRECTORS POSITION AND IN THE CHANCELLORS
POSITION. I MEAN WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
YOU COME IN HERE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GIVE AN ULTIMATUM TO
THE PEOPLE AND SAY, IF YOU DONT DO THIS, IM GOING TO DO THIS.
I MEAN, THATS NOT BEING, I THINK, SMART.
I THINK THATS JUST -- YOU THROW IT OUT THERE AND YOU THINK YOU
HAVE THE POWER TO DO IT. ON BOTH TOPIC.
>>KANOA: YEAH. ITS JUST NOT GOOD BUSINESS TO
GO ABOUT IT WAY THAT. LETS CHANGE GEARS BECAUSE THE
DISCUSSION IS SOMEWHAT TWOFOLD AND IT HAS MULTIPLE LEVELS.
THIS TIES INTO A CERTAIN DEGREE OF WHAT BEN JAY HAS BEEN TALKING
ABOUT SAYING THAT HE WAS GOING TO OFFICIALLY MAKE THE CHANGE
FOR THE MENS TEAM TO BE KNOWN AS THE WARRIORS AND THE WOMENS
TEAMS TO BE KNOWN AS THE RAINBOW WAHINE.
THAT HAS UPSET MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY INCLUDING MARK TAKAI,
YOURSELF, MYSELF, VARIOUS BOOSTER CLUBS WHO SAY BEN JAY
DIDNT CONFER WITH THEM. HE SAID HE IS GOING TO HOLD FIRM
ON THE NICKNAME DECISION. THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE
SAID, INCLUDING DAVID REARDON WHO SAID 10, 13 YEARS SINCE JUNE
JONES CHANGED IT. AND SO WE HAD AMPLE TIME TO BE
ABLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. IF THIS IS THE DECISION, GO WITH
IT. BUT I DO THINK THERE IS AGAIN A
SENTIMENT REGARDING THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THESE DECISIONS
MADE BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT NECESSARILY BEEN HERE THAT LONG.
AND WHEN YOU HEAR THE PASSION AS SURPRISING AS IT MAY BE OF THE
COMMUNITY REGARDING SOMETHING THAT CAN SOMETIMES BE PERCEIVED
AS SO TRIVIAL AS A NICKNAME, YOU CAN TELL THEY CARE ABOUT IT.
WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY SAYING WERE GOING TO STAND FIRM, IT
DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE. >>JIM: DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE.
THE THING IS ITS DISAPPOINTING. ALL OF THE POSITIVE THOUGHTS
IVE HAD ABOUT THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR -- AND THERE ARE STILL
POSITIVE THINGS. HE CANT COME HERE IN A SHORT
PERIOD OF TIME AND BECOME STUBBORN.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO THINGS BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE UNIVERSITY
OF HAWAII ATHLETIC TEAMS AND THE WAY THEY PERFORM.
THIS KIND OF ULTIMATUM IS NOT GOOD.
AND IT THEN GOES INTO IF WERE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CHANGE AT
PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY, SHOULDNT WE LOOK INSIDE?
SHOULDNT WE AT LEAST LOOK AT WHAT THEY --
>>KANOA: YOU ALWAYS TRY TO CONSIDER CANDIDATES WHO HAVE
STRONG TIES TO THIS PLACE. BUT THAT SAID, I MEAN YOU KNOW,
WOULD YOU CALL STAN SHERIFF A CARPET BAGGER?
>> JIM: STAN SHERIFF KNEW THIS PLACE.
>>KANOA: BUT HE WAS EASY -- EDUCATED ELSEWHERE.
THATS NOT TO SAY YOU CANT FIND EDUCATED PEOPLE BORN AND RAISED
ELSEWHERE. THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS JUST
THAT THERE IS BETTER UNDERSTANDING.
HOW HARD IS IT JUST TO SAY IT SEEMS SO EASY TO ME, SO OBVIOUS
THAT IF YOU WERE JUST TO SAY THE MEN ARE RAINBOW WARRIORS, THE
WOMEN ARE RAINBOW WAHINE, CALL THEM WHAT YOU WANT.
WHATEVER. BUT OFFICIALLY THAT WILL BE
THEIR NAME. THESE ARE THE OLD FANS, THESE
ARE THE OLD TIMERS AND WERE TRYING TO WIN MORE FANS.
WERE TRYING TO BE MORE APPEALING ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
SAY HEY, EVERYBODY, WERE ALL IN THIS.
WE WANT TO INCLUDE OLD FANS, PREP FANS.
WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE PAST AND FUTURE.
AND YOU GROUP ALL OF THAT TOGETHER AND THAT IS THE
BEGINNING OF THE HEALING PROCESS.
IT IS SO EASY. >>JIM: ITS SO EASY, AND YOU
DONT GO TO GAME THREE YEARS FROM NOW AS KIND OF A LEGION
THAT GO IN THERE TO UPHOLD HIS POLICY.
COME ON. >>KANOA: THE FACT OF THE MATTER
IS THIS IS A TOUGH TOWN. THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT CAN
SEEMS TO MATRICULATE OVER TO THE SIDE OF BEING HATERS.
WEVE KNOWN THAT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
THIS IS WHAT WE COMPARED TO A PROFESSIONAL TYPE TOWN.
IF OAKLAND RAIDERS ARENT PLAYING WELL, PEOPLE ARENT
NECESSARILY GOING TO GO TO THE GAME.
THIS IS THE ONLY SHOW IN TOWN. BUT I THINK THE LOVE AND PASSION
IS STILL THERE OBVIOUSLY OR ELSE YOU WOULDNT HAVE AN UPROAR ON
SOMETHING AS MUNDANE AS A NICKNAME.
>>JIM: WHEN I CALLED JUNE JONES A CARPET BAGGER, HE HAD
ELEMENTS. BECAUSE OF THE FACT HE WAS
FROM -- HE PLAYED HERE AND HE CAME IN HERE AND WHAT UNIVERSITY
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THAT CHANGES ITS COLORS BECAUSE THE
FOOTBALL COACH DEMANDS IT? HE CHANGED THE COLORS FROM GREEN
AND WHITE AND HE ADDED BLACK AND SILVER.
HE HAD A KIND OF A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL ATMOSPHERE FOR HIS
TEAM. THE BAND NEVER PLAYED ANYMORE.
AND WHEN HE CAME TO THE END WHEN HE WANTED MORE MONEY AND DIDNT
GET IT, HE WAS GONE. SO NOW HE EARNS $2 MILLION A
YEAR. >>KANOA: I THINK YOU CAN TIE IN,
WHEN YOU LOOK BACK IN THE GOLDEN ERA, IF YOU WILL, OF THE 1980S
FOOTBALL TEAMS, WHEN THEY WERE SELLING OUT AND BRINGING IN THE
CROWDS AND THE ALOHA STADIUM WAS ROCKING ALMOST EVERY AND EVERY
WEEK, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY PLAYED BYU AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT
WARRIOR CONSIDERED ON A NATIONAL LEVEL AT THE VERY HEIGHT OF THE
U.H. FOOTBALL PROGRAM, THE COLT BRENNAN YEAR AND THE 2007 WHEN
THEY WENT TO THE SUGAR BOWL AND IN THE ERA OF COLT BRENNAN, THEY
ONLY SOLD OUT ALOHA STADIUM TWICE.
THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE FANS SUPPORT.
TO ME THAT CAN BE CORRELATED AT LEAST IN PART TO THE ALIENATION
THAT OCCURRED WHEN THE NICKNAME AND LOOK AND ALL THAT STUFF WERE
CHANGED. IF IT WAS JUST DONE IN A MORE
SENSITIVE FASHION, IF THERE WAS JUST MORE CONSIDERATION THAT WAS
GIVEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THE DIEHARD FANS AND ALL OF THAT
STUFF, THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING. THAT WAS WHEN U.H. STARTED TO
BECOME MORE CORPORATE. THATS THE DISCONNECT.
>>JIM: PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT THIS BUT THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
THE MENS VOLLEYBALL PROGRAM IN 1995, YUVAL KATZ SHOWED UP AND
THEY BECOME WONDROUS. AND THE FANS START TO SHOW UP
BECAUSE THE PRICE OF A TICKET WAS AFFORDABLE.
YOU COULD SIT IN THE LOWER BOWL. YOU COULD ENJOY THE QUALITY OF
THE VOLLEYBALL. AND IT BECAME SO GOOD AND
POPULAR PEOPLE WOULD STAND UP IN LINE OVERNIGHT TO GET TICKETS.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO SMUGGLE THEM OUT IN LAUNDRY CARTS.
PEOPLE WANTED TO MANY AUTOGRAPHS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII COMES OUT WITH A POLICY AND
CHANGE THE HOUSE. AND THE YOUNG FAMILIES AND THAT
SOLD OUT CROWD GO AWAY. >>KANOA: YEAH.
>>JIM: AND THAT HAS HAPPENED IN MANY DIFFERENT SPORTS.
>>KANOA: TWO OF THE SPORTS WHERE YOU HAVENT NECESSARILY SEEN,
CERTAINLY NOT TO THE SAME PERCENTAGE AND DEGREE THAT
FALLOFF RAINBOW WAHINE VOLLEYBALL, WHICH STAYED.
YOU TALK ABOUT TRADITION, THATS AS TRADITIONAL AS YOU CAN BE.
DAVE SHOJI, CARPET BAGGER. >>JIM: NO, HES NOT.
>>KANOA: I DONT THINK YOU CAN BROADLY STROKE THE BRUSH.
WHAT IM SAYING IS YOU LOOK AT THE TRADITION THAT WAS
ESTABLISHED IN THAT PROGRAM THAT HAS REMAINED.
ANOTHER, THE RAINBOW BASEBALL TEAM WHICH WILL NEXT YEAR BE
KNOWN AS THE WARRIOR BASEBALL TEAM.
THE ACCESSIBILITY TO THE STADIUM, THAT ATMOSPHERE HAS
BEEN PRODUCED AND CREATED AT LES MURAKAMI STADIUM, THE PEOPLE ARE
STILL COMING EVEN IN A DIFFICULT SEASON LIKE THIS.
>>JIM: WHATS THE PRICE OF THE TICKET FOR BASEBALL?
VERY REASONABLE AND YOUNG FAMILIES STILL COME BECAUSE OF
THE PRICE OF THE TICKET. IF YOU HAVE $38 FOR A TICKET IN
FOOTBALL IN VERY TOUGH ECONOMIC TIME FOR THE STATE OF HAWAII, I
DONT THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO.
I REALLY DONT. THEY CANT AFFORD TO.
BUT IF YOU CUT THE PRICE OF THE TICKET, I THINK MORE PEOPLE CAN
AFFORD TO GO. MORE PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO
EXPERIENCE. >>KANOA: ITS NOT AN EASY
PROBLEM TO SOLVE BUT THERE ARE EASY STEPS THAT CAN BE TAKEN.
HERES OUR GUEST. >> HI, GUYS.
>>JIM: NEIGHBORHOODS KIND OF QUIET.
>>KANOA: CHRIS CHUN IS THE HHSAA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
TOOK OVER IN MARCH OF 2010. ANOTHER IOLANI GRADUATE.
TOOK OVER ON THE HEELS OF THE DEPARTURE KEITH.
YOU INHERITED THIS AT A TIME WHEN THERE WAS A LOT OF
FUNDRAISING GOING ON. WITH REGARD TO U.H., THERE WERE
FINANCIAL STRAINS IN AND AROUND THE ENTIRE HIGH SCHOOL LANDSCAPE
WHEN IT CAME TO ATHLETICS. WHERE ARE WE NOW IN TERMS OF THE
ECONOMIC OF HAWAII HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS?
>> I THINK WERE IN THE SAME BLAZE.
THE BUDGET HASNT BEEN RESTORED TO THE PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOLS.
WERE MAKING DO WITH WHAT THEY CAN BUT THEYRE OPERATING AT A
LOWER BUDGET THAN WHAT THEY WERE OPERATING THREE OR FOUR YEARS
AGO. SO THE HEAD COACHES ARE THE ONLY
ONES THAT GET PAID. TRANSPORTATION, THEY USUALLY RUN
OUT OF MONEY ABOUT NOW. IT TAKES FUNDING FROM US TO HELP
THEM WITH THEIR TRANSPORTATION BUDGET THROUGH THE END OF THE
YEAR. HIGH SCHOOL THEMSELVES COULD USE
MORE MONEY SO PEOPLE CAN SUPPORT THAT.
AS OUR ORGANIZATION IS AND WHAT WEVE BEEN TAKING IN FROM THE
SPONSORS AND SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND OUR VOLUNTEERS AND
STUFF, WERE STILL MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO THAT WHAT WE WERE
DOING FROM THREE YEARS AGO. >>JIM: ITS BETTER THAN IT WAS
UNDER THE PREVIOUS GUBERNATORIAL ADMINISTRATION?
IS THAT WHAT YOURE SAYING? >> OR ORGANIZATION IS PRIVATE
NOW. SO WE DONT RELY ON ANY
GOVERNMENT FUNDING OR BUDGET ALLOWANCES FROM THEM.
ITS EASIER FOR US TO MAKE DECISION, ALLOCATE MONIES AND
RAISE MONIES. >>KANOA: THIS WEEK IS ONE OF
THOSE UNIQUE WEEKS WHERE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE STATE TOURNAMENTS
GOING ON SIMULTANEOUSLY. I THINK THE NUMBER IS SIX,
BETWEEN WATER POLO AND BOYS GOLF ON MAUI.
BASEBALL ON MAUI. SOFTBALL HERE.
TRACK AND FIELD THIS WEEKEND. ITS CRAZY.
VOLLEYBALL. WHY DOES IT HAPPEN THAT WAY?
IT SEEMS AS THOUGH EVERYBODYS HAVING A STATE TOURNAMENT.
>> IN THE SPRING, WE HAVE A TWO-WEEK WINDOW TO RUN OUR STATE
TOURNAMENTS. WE HAVE 14 WEEK SEASONS FOR MOST
SPORTS. WE CANT START IT TOO EARLY
BECAUSE IT RUNS INTO THE WINTER SPORT.
WE WANT TO GIVE ATHLETES THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN
MORE THAN ONE SPORT. WE HAVE TO FINISH BEEN
GRADUATION. WE WANT TO SET IT AT GREAT
VENUES LIKE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII.
SAME LIKE PEOPLE THAT THEY WATCH AND ADMIRE.
GRADUATION AT U.H. PREVENTS US FROM GOING ON A SATURDAY.
THAT FORCES US ON SOME TOURNAMENTS EARLIER, SOME LATER.
VENUE AVAILABILITY. THATS WHY WE RUN INTO A WEEK
LIKE WE HAVE THIS WEEK. >>JIM: BASEBALL THIS WEEK IS
GOING TO BE ON MAUI. THATS A VERY STRONG -- IT SEEMS
TO BE A VERY STRONG FOUNDATION THERE.
BECAUSE IT HAS A VERY STRONG SPONSORSHIP.
>> RIGHT. WE HAVE THE OFFENSE THAT
SPONSORS US FROM MAUI. HES A STRONG MAUI PERSON.
SO ONE OF THE AGREEMENTS FOR HIM AS PART OF THE SPONSORSHIP, ONCE
EVERY THREE YEARS, THEY GO TO MAUI.
SOME YEARS BALDWIN WIN IT. >>KANOA: I LOVE THE STADIUM.
I THINK ITS A GREAT VENUE FOR HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS.
BASEBALL. THE POINT THAT POPS ALWAYS MAKES
IS THE VENUES THAT ARE OFTEN SEEN ON TV BELONG IN MOST CASES
BELONG TO THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII.
STAN SHERIFF CENTER AND LES MURAKAMI STADIUM.
WHY NOT HAVE ALL OF THE STATE TOURNAMENTS ON OAHU EACH AND
EVERY YEAR? WHY MANEUVER THEM BACK AND FORTH
BETWEEN SOME OF THE ISLANDS? WHATS THE THINKING THERE?
>> WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT I THINK ONLY A LITTLE MORE THAN
HALF OUR SCHOOLS ARE LOCATED ON MAUI.
WE WANT TO GIVE PARENTS AND FAMILY MEMBERS THE OPPORTUNITY
TO NOT HAVE TO PAY A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO WATCH THEIR KID PLAY.
IF ITS ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS, IT COMES OUT TO SAYING THE OAHU
KIDS HAVE TO TRAVEL ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS WHILE THE NEIGHBOR
ISLAND KIDS HAVE TO GO TWO OR THREE YEARS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE FEELS INCLUDED AND WE
HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBOR ISLANDS AS WELL.
>>JIM: YOU HAVE EQUAL NUMBER IN THE FALL SPORTS AS IN THE
SPRING? >> I DO BELIEVE IF ANYTHING ITS
ONE OR TWO DIFFERENT BETWEEN SEASONS.
AND WE TRY TO SPREAD IT OUT SO KIDS THAT PLAY CERTAIN SPORT
DONT HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE IN THAT SEASON.
THE WRESTLER AND JUDO IS A GOOD MIX TO FOLLOW ONE ANOTHER.
THERES BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL KIDS ARE MOSTLY BASKETBALL
PLAYERS OR SOCCER PLAYERS. THEY SEPARATE SEASONS.
SO WE TRY TO SEPARATE IT. THAT WORKS THE BEST.
>>KANOA: WHAT HAS TELEVISION COVERAGE, OC 16 IS STARTING TO
DO MORE AND MORE STATE TOURNAMENTS INCLUDING JUDO.
HOW HAS THAT CHANGED THINGS? >> THEYRE A GREAT SPONSOR TO
WORK WITH. THE MORE VISIBILITY THEY GIVE,
OUR SPONSORS ENJOY THAT. THEYRE ACCOMMODATING.
THEYRE GREAT TO WORK WITH. ITS A BONUS BECAUSE THE KIDS
LOVE TO SEE THEMSELVES ON TV. ITS SOMETHING TO PLAY FOR.
WHEN WE HAVE A MIX OF TOURNAMENTS LIKE THIS, I DO FEEL
BAD BECAUSE ITS LESS IT WAS VENUES THAT THEY CAN COVER.
THIS YEAR ITS TWO CHANNELS. PEOPLE CAN SEE SOFTBALL AND
BASEBALL AT THE SAME TIME AND TRACK AND FIELD.
>>JIM: NOT BAD. WHAT ABOUT SPORTS WAITING TO
COME ON, TO EXPAND INTO OTHER AREAS?
I MEAN YOU SEE JUDO, WRESTLING, SPORTS THAT MAY HAVE
A LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SEE IT BECAUSE OF
THE VENUE, ARE YOU PREPARED TO EXPAND EVEN FURTHER?
>> SPORTS-WISE? >>
>>JIM: YEAH. >> THERES TALK ABOUT SURFING
AND BEACH VOLLEYBALL. THAT MIGHT BE A CHEAPER
ALTERNATIVE. ITS HARD TO JUSTIFY THE COACHES
WHO WERENT GETTING PAID, WERE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER SPORT.
IF THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS GET THEIR BUDGETS -- BEACH VOLLEYBALL IS A
LOGICAL SPORT. >>KANOA: YOU HAVE TO THINK
FISCALLY WITH REGARD TO HIGH SCHOOL SO MUCH.
YOURE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE AN APPEARANCE CLOSE TO EACH STATE
TOURNAMENT THIS WEEK. WHEN YOU GET THERE AND WHEN
YOURE SITTING AT THE GAMES HOW MUCH DO YOU ALLOW YOURSELF TO
ENJOY WHAT YOURE WATCHING AND HOW MUCH DO YOU ENJOY GETTING
INTO IT? HOW MUCH DO YOU ENJOY SEEING
THESE YOUNG STUDENT ATHLETES, HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, PUTTING IT ALL
OUT THERE? >> THATS THE JOY.
MORE AND MORE, AS I GET OLDER, IM GETTING TO SEE KIDS THAT
IVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN TO COACH AND FAMILIES THAT IVE MET IN MY
CAREER AND OTHER CAREER. ITS GETTING EXCITING.
AND THE LONGER I HAVE THIS JOB THE MORE I UNDERSTAND THE SPORT.
I SEE THE TOURNAMENT. I CAN GET A FEEL OF WHAT WORKS
AND DOESNT. WATCHING THEM, I NORMALLY
ACTUALLY GET TO ENJOY THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES.
>>JIM: WHAT ABOUT THOSE SUPPORT AREAS?
THE OFFICIALS? THE ADMINISTERS PUTTING ON THE
EVENT? THE QUALITY OF THE UMPIRE, THE
QUALITY OF THE REFEREES, THE SUBJECTIVE RULES, OBJECTIVE
RULES? ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH PEOPLE ON
THAT LEVEL TO MAKE IT BETTER? TO MAKE THEM MORE EFFICIENT?
>> IVE ACTUALLY GOT A NEW FOUND RESPECT FOR OFFICIALS AND
UMPIRES ONCE I GOT THIS JOB. I REALIZE WHAT THEY WOULD GO
THROUGH. WHEN I COACHED MY KIDS, I NEVER
REALLY UNDERSTAND. THEY HAVE OTHER PROFESSIONAL
CAREERS. THEYRE NOT ASPIRING TO BE
COLLEGE OFFICIALS AND REFEREES. WHILE WERE TRYING TO GET THE
BEST OFFICIALS, WE HAVE A LIMITED BASE OF WHAT WE HAVE.
AND THATS WHY WERE TRYING TO RECRUIT KIDS THAT PLAY AND
GRADUATED AND MOVED ON AND NOT GONE TO PROFESSIONAL CAREERS AND
COME BACK AND LEARN TO OFFICIATE.
THAT BASE IS GETTING OLDER. WITHOUT THEIR HELP AND WITH THE
ABUSE THEY GET DAILY, IT MIGHT DRY UP.
>>KANOA: ITS STILL THE TESTIMONY -- THE NUMBER ONE
QUESTION WHEN YOU MEET SOMEBODY IN HAWAII.
WHAT HIGH SCHOOL? CHRIS CHUN.
HES COMING NEAR YOU. CHRIS CHUN.
SEE YOU NEXT TIME ON LEAHEY & LEAHEY.