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VERY GOOD POINT.
WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO, IT COMES
DOWN TO TRUST.
I THINK OBAMA'S BIG PROBLEM IS
THAT THIS COMES SO SOON AFTER
FIRST BENGHAZI AND THEN
PARTICULARLY THE IRS SCANDAL,
BECAUSE THERE YOU HAVE
INFORMATION BEING COLLATED IN AN
APPARENTLY NORMAL TRUSTWORTHY
MANNER, THEN BEING ABUSED, AND
THE FEAR HERE IS THAT THEY'VE
DONE IT ONCE, THEY'LL DO IT
AGAIN.
>> IT'S AN ABSOLUTELY LEGITIMATE
FEAR.
ABSOLUTELY LEGITIMATE.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TAKE A
DEEP BREATH.
WE HAVE TO EXAMINE WHAT'S GOING
ON.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T
KNOW.
IF IT TURNS OUT THAT IN ORDER TO
FOCUS ON A PARTICULAR
INDIVIDUAL, YOU HAVE TO GO AND
GET A SPECIFIC WARRANT, THAT
GIVES A LEVEL OF PROTECTION.
I DON'T LIKE THE SECRET COURT.
>> HERE'S THE THING.
ONCE YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION
AND THEY CAN GET ANYTHING THEY
WANT BY THE LOOK OF IT, IMAGINE
COME THE NEXT ELECTION, IMAGINE
CHRIS CHRISTIE IS THE CANDIDATE
AND THEY SUDDENLY ONE PERSON
LOWER DOWN THE FOOD CHAIN AS
WITH THE IRS THINKS I WONDER
WHAT CHRIS CHRISTIE HAS BEEN UP
TO ON THE INTERNET AND FINDS
SOMETHING DAMAGING.
ONCE IT'S THERE, IT'S THERE TO
BE ABUSED.
>> WE NEED TO HAVE FIREWALLS.
WE NEED TO CREATE BALANCES.
THE SUPREME COURT THE OTHER DAY
SAID YOU CAN GET DNA FROM PEOPLE
WHO ARE ARRESTED FOR CRIME.
IF THE ONLY DNA YOU COULD GET IS
THAT WHICH IS LIKE A
FINGERPRINT, THAT'S ONE THING
BUT IF YOU CAN THEN USE IT TO GO
AND FIND MEDICAL RECORDS, WE
NEED FIREWALLS.
WE NEED SAFETY.
WE SHOULDN'T EVER TRUST.
BUT WE NEED TO THINK HARD ABOUT
THIS AND STRIKE THE APPROPRIATE
BALANCE.
WE SHOULDN'T OVERREACT BY TAKING
AWAY FROM OUR GOVERNMENT
ESSENTIAL TECHNOLOGICAL POWERS
THAT DO IN FACT PROTECT US.
>> TOM FUENTES, IS THE BIGGEST
PROBLEM HERE NEW TECHNOLOGY IN
THE SENSE THIS WOULDN'T HAVE
BEEN EVEN AN ISSUE 15 YEARS AGO,
BECAUSE EVEN IF HE WANTED TO,
THERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AN
INTERNET OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF
STUFF AVAILABLE TO INVADE.
SO IT'S KIND OF A SYMPTOM,
REALLY, OF MODERN TIMES, ISN'T
IT?
>> WELL, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE,
YOU WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THIS
CAPABILITY.
I KNOW DURING MY CAREER WITH THE
FBI, WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS ABILITY
TO GET SUCH HUGE QUANTITIES OF
DATA SO QUICKLY.
BUT DON'T FORGET ALSO, PIERS,
THESE COMPANIES HAVE THE DATA SO
WHETHER OR NOT IT ENDS UP IN AN
NSA DATA BASE SOMEWHERE SO THAT
IT CAN BE REVIEWED AT A FUTURE
TIME IF AN ISSUE COMES UP, ALL
OF THESE COMPANIES HAVE THAT.
>> GOOD POINT.
>> THEY'RE TRACKING YOUR
SPENDING EVERY DAY.
THEY'RE TRACKING EVERYTHING,
WHERE YOU GO, WHAT YOU DO NOW.
WHEN YOU GET ON YOUR COMPUTER
TONIGHT, WHEN YOU GET HOME ON
YOUR PERSONAL COMPUTER, THOSE
POPUP ADS COME UP FOR YOU.
THEY'RE GEARED TOWARD THE WAY
YOU'VE SPENT MONEY ON THE
INTERNET, THE WAY YOU'VE
SHOPPED, THE SITES THAT YOU'VE
VISITED.
THESE COMPANIES ALREADY HAVE
THAT.
>> NOW YOU'RE FREAKING ME OUT,
TOM.
>> THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN 15 DIFFERENT COMPANIES
TRYING TO USE THE DATA FOR THEIR