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Whilst we are talking about Nadabrahma, and about the sound and about what comes out of you.
Going back to what's happening here in Wroclaw. Our friend, Dorota Pasalska, as I said we met quite some time ago.
Dorota, the topic is, sound, spiritual growth, faces of spirituality; this has been your path since certain moment in your life
tell us few words how to enter that path, in your case of course.
In my case it was that I was looking for the way to come to terms with myself
because I didn't cope with myself, I didn't enjoy life, I didn't feel comfortable with life.
I had heard about different spiritual things, but they didn't work for me.
The first biggest obstacle is to believe, and I have never been a person to take something on 'face value',
I need to experience it first, otherwise I find it hard to believe.
It has all started with sound meditation Nadabrahma. It has started with Osho;
I went to workshop 'Osho meditations' where I got into to Nadabrahma.
Please tell us few words about Osho, you used to tell me about him, encouraging me to read some of his work.
I have some of his books at home to sometimes have a little read, but for you it felt really strong.
I had never felt before those someone else's views seemed like my own.
It felt like I would see my own views, but at much more advanced stage.
It was very strange, usually when you read something, whether its some opinions, books
or afterwards different books by the same author, you usually agree with some things more that others.
And then, for the first time, virtually everything felt as if it was my own.
That's why I was so absorbed by it. So I made a decision.
He mentions practising meditation all the time, I wanted to experience it, and went to the workshop, to try for the last time,
as I was reluctant after all previous failures. I went to the Osho meditation workshops, they are conducted in a way,
there is one meditation after another, they are all very different, so if one type doesn't work for someone
there is always a chance that other type will.
Please say few words about Osho and who is he.
He was a person who managed to connect East with the West, I would say.
I mean he was born in India, he experienced the enlightenment at the age of twenty-something,
and then he worked to bring attitudes of East and West closer together.
He is most known for developing new method of meditation, especially for western man,
as he noticed eastern systems were too difficult, as we have to much action inside us.
Western man is focused on doing 'action action action'.
And all the eastern systems 'just sit down', 'just let yourself be', don't work for us.
That's why he developed dynamic meditation, which is his 'signature meditation', and it really helped lots of people.
So you went to the workshop and then, what was your first impression, as reading is one thing and then u went to the workshop.
I was very sceptical about any kind of meditation, but at the same time I was intrigued by this theory.
I was sure nothing would work for me, and during the fist day really nothing worked for me.
I was there with my friend, and that's why I didn't leave, as I could see it worked for her.
We came in one car, so I couldn't leave her anyway, and had to stay if I wanted to or not.
And as I said first thing that worked for me was this dynamic meditation and then second day was completely amazing,
it was incredible, a bit of a shock.
To explain it, u can imagine a person that never tasted sugar, and was praying for the mint candy, to taste it,
and instead is given a marzipan.
That's how it worked out for me, suddenly all I had read, and always doubted, I got twice as strong
This is quite an experience, its hard to comprehend it intellectually and verbally describe.
But you said it nice about marzipan, about something u have never known and the your wish is granted.
It is a bit like mystical event.
Yes, I have never before, or afterwards experienced anything like that,
even though I very deeply went into meditation, the sound meditation.
I don't know why.
And this is not the purpose of meditation anyway.
From my perspective meditation is not about sensations, but they should work for you.
So you can see that you react differently to the same things, so you can see that you are changing as a person.
When we change ourself we change the reality, and this is the whole point.
And this goes in pair what Osho always said, that spiritual growth shouldn't be a purpose itself
'oh it so nice, we have great sensations', then those sensations stop,
as they stop with regular practice, and that means the end of spiritual growth.
That's means the stop of meditating, as the sensual experiences stop.
The whole point is, that if you have the habit of observing in the reality, looking out for results,
observing very subtle differences in our reactions, whether on the level of emotions, or the level of thoughts,
what is harder to achieve, what is harder to achieve, or even on the level of the body,
you will get the whole point, as you will see the connection of what you are doing and what is happening.
Then it is just a small step to change yourself and to change the reality.
Going back to that moment, when you had your greatest spiritual experience, what happened afterwards?
I understand this workshop gave you some tools, regarding what to do later on.
You also mention at some point Nadabrahma.
Thanks to you I also practised Nadabrahma for some time, and it made huge impression on me, but what is Nadabrahma?
Nadabrama is one of the basic Osho Meditations.
Afterwards I have learned that in ashram in Punu, in India, it was one of the two practised every day.
You could say its very underappreciated, because we hear a lot more about different meditations,
but not about this meditation which I think is elementary, basic and woks really strongest,
there is not much about it.
In this type of meditation you work with your own voice, you hum.
Then you make certain hand movements, and than you last in peace and quiet.
That's about it, so little or so much of it,
and then you observe the reality, and wait what happens.
What happened to me during the first meditation, something freed inside me that was blocked, I was waiting for that to happen.
This euphoria, this ecstatic, mystical state was mainly a result of that I waited for it so long.
So inside me to things were fighting against each other, one of them 'I would really like it to happen'
and second 'I don't believe'.
When this conflict finally went, and I peacefully entered meditation, that was really it.
It's impossible to describe it, it was sensation of light, at the same time of sound,
at the same time the state of mind I really didn't want to come out of.
I was worried if I came out of it I wouldn't be able to go back into it.
I thought my lack of ability would show, ant that I wouldn't be able to go back into it.
The situation was quite funny, the trainer wanted to finished and I sat there all in tears, with angelic facial expression.
Everyone finished their meditation, then there was moment of silence,
I had my eyes closed, so I only heard it, but I said to myself : 'No!
I am not coming out, till they chuck me out, I am going to sit here'!
I heard everyone got up from their chairs, and sat down next to the wall, and I was still in that state.
Trainer decided to start next meditation and during that next meditation I was thrown out of mine.
Fortunately, I found out I was able to repeat it, maybe not with such a spectacular effect,
but with the effect I wanted, the change in me has started.
Whilst we are talking about Nadabrahma, and about the sound and about what comes out of you.
We have different instruments you have brought here with you, but human body, his energy, and mind have the best tool,
lest say in some circumstances indispensable.
Even in Nadabrahma, tell me why they say you have to find your own sound, your own voice,
some sort of note that is specific to you.
If you could now use in this conversation, bit more scientific, rational explanation, where does the importance of meditation,
and of using the sound come from.
Let's start form the word meditation, its often subject of stereotype this word, its often associated with some sort of state,
like my family says it, when you drift away, completely not practical down to earth, like we were in the clouds.
It is completely not like that.
Meditation, for me is very practical, what its all about is to find connection to this part of ourselves we don't use everyday.
In normal functioning we vibrate in mind-emotion partnership.
We practically constantly experience that; however we have other parts within us.
It is commonly known we only use about 10%, depending on source 5-10% of our brain.
So we have whole unknown territories within ourselves.
Within those territories, there is the best one, this territory can be called our higher self, soul, spirit,
there are thousands of names.
Really they are only words, how you can really recognise this is that state?
There is the best of us coded there, its pure. original state we have in us. All the mystical people describe it, including Osho
It's a state of joy, happiness, contentment, deep feeling of purpose, that everything is happening like it should.
Also. On physical level, of optimum health. If we manage to access this part of ourselves, that is all we have to do,
everything else happens on its own.
It often happens by so called 'coincidence'. So, for example, lest say if its on emotional level, and there is emotional problem
it often dissolves on its own.
If its something in the body we suddenly start to get better.
And that's how it works; in general spirituality its all about accessing that part of yourself.
There is this saying often being used 'everything is a vibration'.
If you use the terms of physics, all you will see is different frequencies of vibrations,
uncountable amounts of magnetic or electromagnetic waves.
And this is really all that can be seen, unless you go to the sub-atom levels, even more vibration, fluctuation, sound,
that's the side of it we can look for if we want to name *** analyse things.
Then there is the soul, human being, awareness, our being can feel something, I would call it a state, a feeling,
its defined in many ways. As I can see this sound is like one sound wave ...
but the wave is the wrong word for it, as sound is only a small part of all those vibrations out there in the world.
The vision is also a vibration, but for some reason the sound is especially important for our bodies, for our souls,
for our bodies, for our souls, for our personalities.
Even the Bible says the word was first, the element of sound appears there as creative.
I mean, its completely elementary, it's a bit funny, its supposed to be elementary, I even spoke with Physic student recently,
and asked her if they did teach that in Technical University, and it turned out they did.
What it is, even the matter, the tangible, lasting, even that matter is a vibration. How does it work:
the atom is built of the core and electrons circling around it. We imagine, or remember from school or somewhere, the picture
with the core and electrons around it. In reality the proportions are different,
lets say, if that was the core, electrons circle in the orbit, like ...
...Of our city...
In the orbit of, let's say, our room
Depends on the atom
Yes, exactly, it depends. But what I mean, truly if you look at it like that, about 90% of atom,
of which the tangible matter is built,is so called vacuum, but it's not a vacuum as the movement of electrons creates sound wave
so it's filled with vibration.
This is really it, even tangible matter is, let's say 70%, 80%, 90% of it's volume made out of this vibration.
This is on the physics level, and its really elementary knowledge that is not common.
Now, why this particular sound? Because...
Nababrahma in general, means in alt 'weda': 'the world is a sound'. Nada brahma -- the world is a sound
and I think in some eastern cultures, and definitely where they invented gong, where the singing bowls come from,
the idea, and the way of looking at the world, must have been different. People must have been able to use this fact a lot more,
in their everyday life, that world is a sound.
That the matter is a sound, a vibration.
It's hard nowadays,to accurately date how old is the gong. It is said,that the first mention of it comes form
few thousand years BC, that is has been with us for about 5000-5500 years.
. It is definitely the most mysterious instrument in the world, and the least studied one.
Its phenomenon is based on the amount of sounds it can make.
It is like, if we were drawing something, the good artists will always draw lots of little lines, as the eye has this property,
it chooses from the whole spectrum the right, the ideal one.
I think the similar thing happens with the gong, it has such a spectrum of vibration, so we can choose the one we are missing,
on the level of body, emotion or soul.
It is all contained in the gong. The singing bowls work differently though. Singing bowls, they just... for example that one...
it is so called therapeutic bowl. Bowls like that are to be placed on the body,
as this sound has such property it enters the body very well. It has ability to resonate with every cell of our body,
the physical body.
Every one of those bowls is different, for the therapeutic purposes. To place on the body the set of 3 is used,
where each one of them vibrates differently.
It turned out, as a result of research done by Mr & Mrs Portalski, done in Poznan Technical University,
the spectrum of those bowls ideally resonates with the spectrum of our main internal organs.
That's why there is heart bowl, there is belly bowl, that works for all soft tissue, like our tummy.
And there is universal bowl, like this one, also called joint bowl that works very well...
Now we find ourselves talking about, original, and archetype concept of human being and his surroundings.
Also, as far as health is concerned, the human internal organs have a specific frequency, the sum of those specific vibrations,
and it has been known for thousands of years.
We can see that, this specific shape of bowl, the material, this type of metal, the way you hit it or rub it, creates the
the correct sound of healthy, from the point of view of resonance, for let's say kidneys.
I if I have a bad kidney, and you create that 'healthy kidney sound', the spectrum, the frequency is forced on that organ, and
it's made to adopt it. The idea is that when you tap the bowl my kidney is made to resonate with the sound.
I have simplified this, to show how this therapeutic, healing process works.
The whole idea is,to attune or rather extract, the correct frequency of our main organs.
How does it truly works no one really knows, I personally think its impossible to fully, scientifically, explain this phenomenon
The understanding of the world and reality is completely different in western world to where those things originate from.
We will always be lacking some element that was there but doesn't exist here.
I am sorry to interrupt. The West is starting to learn, some avant-garde advances in physics might start to explain
from our, rational perspective, how it works, according to the laws of physics.
Finally, in our limited western brain, that can only see through the mind, we can start building little path of light;
it has to happen; the harmony between understanding the process and the effect the East is showing us
The Eest doesn't tell us how it works, it just shows us what to do to make it working.
I think this is the key: Do you want the understanding or do you want to just use it.
Regardless of that; the is remaining element of mystery, and faith, but not blind faith, but based on observation.
So when you can see the effect, and you can feel it in ourselves, and reality shows there is an effect, it is a secondary matter
if it has the right to work in theory, and what laws of physics explain it.
Later on Dorota will give us two samples of her abilities, the sound will flow later on, and I will leave the frame.
At the moment I am going to continue this discussion, as what we are talking about now, is fundamental to the process
of getting the knowledge about human beings; and the conflict between two ways of perceiving, the intuition, experience,
mystical state eastern tradition vs. rational way, mind, analysis, western tradition
What I am trying to say is, if we were to study and discover the mechanisms why doest this sound positively influences me
as a whole... how much taking away the mystery of the process would influence the perception on spiritual level...
how much this surprise, mystery, you could say, it was a "miracle", its very important to be astonished,
when you go through with it, that you don't know why, but look, it worked.
This is the value in its own right, that's why I am thinking aloud, what if you take that element away.
Maybe I will give an example. The people that are in the field of sexology, analysing *** intercourse from purely medical and
physiological point of view, they may know everything about sex, but can they achieve the same level of satisfaction from sex
or love making with their special person as someone who hasn't got a clue about how does it work.
Secondly, it is wonderful thing to take part in the act of lovemaking, and have incredible spiritual experience...
so how much someone that knows the workings of *** act will be distracted by this knowledge,
preventing him/her from fully enjoying the act itself.
I am purposely trying to distinguish between those two, to create the awareness that it can sometimes distort perception.
There is much sense in what you said, this lack of knowledge, secret and mystery, if we knew everything,
and way everything works life would not have much sense, we are driven by the need of learning, uncovering the mysteries;
but we need that secret to stay. Now in this aura, when you are tapping I shouldn't be thinking why is it influencing my brain.
I should be experiencing it.
No I am going to step aside, I am going to invite you to introduce us to what do you want to do in the first instrumental part,
, than I am going to come back a bit later for intellectual discussion.
OK
OK, please welcome Dorota.
First of all I wanted to show, the basic tool, for therapeutic purposes, or just for self-improvement; the gong
The way people imagine the sound of gong, sounds like this...
We know that from television, lets say from sport events where they tap the gong to start some round; or we know it from films
and that is how we imagine it;
However this is how it sounds when we are working with it
If you don't get into meditation, and just listen to it like that, you could say it doesn't even sound nice.
That was my initial thought when I heard gong for the first time: What is there to be fascinated about, its not even nice
The purpose is for its benefits, through the sound of gong is the easiest way to go into meditation.
When we are already meditating, then we release this beauty from within. We release it even on physical level.
It often happens that when people are listening to gong, they can hear various instruments that are not even there.
Then can hear flutes, some drums, they can hear melodies, and sometimes even singing.
But what they are really hearing is you could say, the singing of their own soul.
So it is not just poetical expression that the soul is singing, but it is really possible to hear,
whilst meditating, sounds from within ourselves.
Now, the raw sound of gong, that helps us the most in mediation we often combine with softer sound of bowls.
This bowl in here, as I said before is therapeutic bowl, those 3 so-called zen bowls, are used purely for meditation.
The sound is very calm, vibrating, soothing
Apart from that... we use bells called 'tingsze'... I am not sure if you can hear this, this sound... kind of runs around...
Someone said once, I really liked it, that tinksha bells shows spacious nature of sound.
Like no other instrument, when you let the sound go, it's like it starts to live its own life
This instrument here, Ocean Drum, I hope you could hear it, sounds really like a ocean wave, when you are deep in meditation
it can be heard especially well. It resembles oceanic wave smashing against the rocks,
it brings the element of soothing, it guides us into deeper states of meditation.
When talking about this instrument, the Ocean Drum, there is very interesting story; once a young man came to our organization
who was doing research for his degree at Music Academy in Lodz (Music Therapy),
and he decided to do a research on those instruments... archaic, 'magical' instruments, not those classic ones,
in terms of what can't be heard. Not what we can hear, but infra-sounds and ultra-sounds. After testing lots of instruments
it turned out Ocean Drum jumps up the scale very high. What the results have shown:
roughly what we can hear is roughly between 16 000 Hz and 22 000Hz range; below and above that there are frequencies
our brain registers, but we can't hear them. From about 60 000Hz, 80 000Hz to about 100 000 Hz, as far as I can remember
that is the range bats use to communicate, above 100 000Hz up to even 150 000Hz is the frequency dolphins use to communicate.
And this drum jumped out with frequencies between the bats and dolphins, you could say to illustrate it.
It turned out to be absolute hit in terms of short moments when it reaches ultra-sounds and infra-sounds.
When it comes to bowls and gong they were more levelled, they worked on lower frequencies, didn't go as far out of hearing range
but in a continuous way.
At the end of meditation we usually use this bell, that sounds very pleasant. This particular one is called 'crystal morning'
and it really sounds like...awakening, like a start of new day.
That's it when it comes to showing instruments; what I try to do as much as possible... what I think everyone should experience
as often as possible, is sound meditation, something everyone can do, no abilities are required, you don't need any talent,
you could even say, and I think that, its easiest to meditate using those instruments called archaic instruments...
such as gong, Tibetan singing bowls or Aboriginal didgeridoo.
And that's it. However later on, when we have been working with instruments for a while, and we have sorted ourselves out
on a basic emotional, mental and body levels; we will drop lots of ballast we all carry.
We can start more artistic part. What we do now (in our Association) is to try to combine those sounds.
As we said before, during the concerts, we combine those sounds with more classical instruments to make concerts
that apart of the aspect of self-development also have artistic beauty.
I will go back to the element of analysis of it all, and looking for differences,in the sense that there are
different approaches when it comes to using bowls and gongs, not mentioning the other instruments, like didgeridoo
that feature in those concerts... There is Hess approach, there is Don Corneaux, there are thousands of people in Europe
and the whole world using one or the other approach to master the art...
What is... Lets start from... You started performing at the concerts, organising workshops and individual sessions;
where do you start on that path to become a teacher or at least therapist who works with bowls and gongs.
As far as I can understand there two main Schools. Can you sign up for two different courses for example?
Yes, that is right there are two paths, if we have to divide...
We are talking about reality, no one regulates it, and there could be thousands of paths.
Those paths, and differences come out of how hugely universal this sound is, its like with a knife, you can use it to ...
kill someone or to spread butter.
Same here, I don't actually know any negative uses for sound, but it is just a tool; you can see it as a tool
and it depends on own preferences how to use it.
What's it all about, what was it all about for me, and what is fundamental here, is that this sound helps us find ourselves,
helps us enter deeper into meditation, and in opening, tuning into hose channels we use in connecting with our higher-self.
And now when we have achieved it we can, depending on our needs: either work as therapists,
and that's Peter Hess school, because Peter Hess at the beginning of 90's went to Tibet and Nepal in order to find something
that would help his family in healing illnesses. He went with that approach and that is what he found.
He also popularised a lot, mostly singing bowls, in Europe, but you could also say in the world.
This is this, I would say therapeutic path. I also started there. As when you are looking for something its hard to find
its hard to find workshops or even relevant information. I remember my difficulties at the beginning were really on basic level
Thanks to all the work Peter Hess have done in 90s we now have Nadabrahma Associacion,...
but it's got nothing to do with Nadabrahma -- the Osho meditation I was earlier talking about.
This association gathers people who go on this therapeutic path.
It is possible... as we said... not to have any therapeutic ambitions, but just observe, what will be happening next;
that's what I decided ... I thought," I am getting more and more open and lets just wait and see what will come out of it.
I am not setting any goals, I achieved my goal very soon, my life become nicer, easier and much more interesting...
now let's see what else will come out of it"
I wag guided into this path, I would call it 'artistic'. This is what we have started doing next ...
putting together different instruments...
Is Don Conreaux ...we could say... represents the other direction?
Yes, yes... and in my case, you know... when student is ready the master will always appear.
Don Conreaux appeared, who used to be Hollywood actor, but one beautiful day he lest all of that behind and found himself
in those gong sounds. He travelled the world with different missions, more universal ones
like World Peace Bell Gardens, as a result of changed awareness after his adventure with gongs.
And there is lots of people following this artistic path. Going back to me, my voice also opened up and I started to sing.
Its astonishing that at the age when no one expected it, and certainly not the concerned person, something like that
happens to you. Its and adventure impossible to even describe, as it not only artistic dimension,
that you can come out on stage and impress the family,but also self esteem increases incredibly when something like that happens
Now. I would like to remind, as I took part in this, not so much during the workshops but during preparations, what took place
Ladek Zdroj, the workshops organised at that time still by the foundation that no longer exsit 'Magic of Sound'.
And what happened, 20 young people gathered, mostly young but not only, from the region of Ladek Zdroj,
who were in lacking social skills and having problems living in society. But it really didn't matter that much in qualification,
as it later turned out they were incredible people.
So you and your colleague, Music Academy graduate, organised 7 day workshop, where people
that I have seen at the beginning and then at the end... it was incredible. What could you have done
with young people within 7 days that they gained so much confidence, they learned so much and were so happy.
In few words, what was that all about?
Yes, that was one big experiment. My first workshops of what I call intuitive singing, as I had to have name
for what I wanted to do.
What I wanted to do was to share my experience with others. Most of all I wanted share with them this state you experience
when something new opens in you in incredible way and you suddenly you feel like singing it out.
Whereas before you just couldn't do it.
This workshop went on thanks to the funds we received to work with people at risk of social exclusion, this is the term for it.
However most people that wanted to attend had drug problem, over a half of those participants admitted they liked to take
various substances. It wasn't only that, other people came for different reasons.
For example poverty is classified as risk factor for social exclusion, or some disabilities and so on.
So that was the group that formed; however they had some level of openness to decide...
That they decided to benefit form it...
Yes ...to take part in this type of experiment. The experiment went very well,
and about a year later we did another intuitive singing workshop,with 'In the key of heart' association, this time international
And now I am continuing it in April, I invite everyone interested to visit: inthekeyofheart.com for more information.
This is growing rapidly because it appeals the most to the people that are not connected with esoteric environment.
At least at the first listen, there is the difference: meditation, self development sounds like hard work,
but say intuitive singing and oh.. everyone thinks of happiness
Because everyone sings or hums a bit to themselves and it's the easiest way, I could try to sing a little bit.
What attracted me to this path is... because it's like this: when you start something new paths come up,
that you wouldn't be able to foresee when you started, as one experience gives beginning to another one.
For me meditation and work with my own voice, what we didn't say, this search for original, primeval sound in ourselves.
This sound from within us, will be always the best for us, for our higher self to become more open,
better than any sound from outside
I am not trying to belittle gong or singing bowls,
but always what is ours; to help us become more open best tool is something that comes from within us.
Did you manage to find your primeval voice?
Again, this is just a theory, but yeah, I think so... I think I have managed.
Certain technique formed, thanks to Matylda, who is professional singer.
She proposed an exercise on those workshops, which we for ourselves, would call 'searching for primeval voice',
even though she didn't use that name.
Her approach was completely different, so there names might be different. So what is this 'primeval voice' all about?
The thing is, in this moment when we are completely relaxed, body muscles loose, mind hanged up on sound,
we only make the sound according to our breathing, so add the sound when breathing out.
So the sound is 'being born' out of breath, in completely free, easy, natural way. This is that 'primeval sound'.
Before the second instrumental part, it would be nice to keep this wonderful atmosphere, silet instruments for little bit longer
Last thing I wanted to ask you is about how to contact you. Are you doing any classes? From a bit more practical perspective,
I mean how do you come across people that need to benefit from private session. How can anyone contact you?
I try to communicate all information through internet websites. Recently I haven't been updating much, I used to do it much more
I used to do it much more regularly, its because I have less time now. I would like to invite you to visit www.energiagongu.pl,
its my private website that is growing now. I started it, so I didn't have to say the same thing over and over again,
to different people. My decision was to write it down. Now it is slowly starting to grow.
Second website belongs to association, there is more information about events and what's going on. Its: www.inthekeyofheart.com
currently we are going through three international projects, have look at UE projects link.
In my opinion, first step should always be basic work with yourself, like sound meditation, gong meditation,
or other sound like Nadabrahma.
What I have observed people find it very hard to continually go through with systematic independent self-improvement work.
Unfortunately, being systematic is the key.
... any way to introduce someone... more permanent contact with those people..
When it comes to gong, once a week is fine, its stays inside us for at least a week after this sort of session.
We are currently using rooms belonging to Association'Live Differently', weekly on Friday... Its really best to look at the webb.
...to find out the details. Now I'm going to allow myself to ask you, to finish off our meeting,
make the stong, magnificent, incredible sound of the gong and other instruments you brought with you sound in our ears,
and then a moment of silence. Afterwards we will present Donika Dominiak, it will be very relevant to what Dorota said, and then
lecture by Petros. I am going to disappear to give you more space and we are all ears.
You can also look, as we have nice background, no problem, but you have to listen.
I always say, during concerts or workshops, that the sounds I give is only 50% another 50% is up to you,
depending how much open are you going to be to the sound, how much are you going to let them into your being,
what are you going to do to experience it the strongest.
The simplest instruction is, relaxed body, mind following the sound, so just sit comfortably, relax the body, close your eyes...
...and that's half job done.
...remember... try not to think, when you find thoughts are running in your hear just gently let them go and follow the sound.
If it happens again... when thoughts appear... come off them and follow the sound. Let it happen....
Yes, that's it, you would have to be here in the studio, 6-7 people benefits from it,
I hope at least some of this incredible sound can be received through internet.
Thank you very much for visiting our studio, hope there will be future occasions.
We are broadcasting every Monday. There is lots of incredible people and things to discuss when it comes to spirituality;
would be enough for 100 years or more...hope we won't have to wait 100 years for you, and we will see you some time soon.
Maybe in different set-up, with someone else, there will be more hands creating the sound, the possibilities are huge.
Thank you once more, and I invite, in similar topic.
ntv- independent television www.inthekeyofheart.com translation: Karolina Najdek