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WEARING
THE DISGUISE WHY?
>> THEY HAVEN'T BEEN HONEST
WITH THEIR MEN.
>> I WAS BORN A MALE.
NOW THEIR BOYFRIENDS HAVE TO
FACE THE TRUTH.
>> SHE'S A DUDE.
JERRY: SHE'S A PREOP DUDE.
>> WE ARE SPECIAL WOMEN.
>> THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEIR
GIRLFRIENDS ARE GUYS.
[CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
and UNIVERSAL TELEVISION]
>> JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY: THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
TODAY WE ARE TALKING TO
PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY'VE BEEN
KEEPING SECRETS FROM THE ONE
THEY LOVE.
EVEN THOUGH THEY RISK LOSING
THEIR RELATIONSHIPS THEY ARE
HERE TO TELL THE TRUTH ONCE
AND MORE ALL.
I WANT YOU TO MEET MERCEDES.
SHE SAYS HER FRIEND NEEDS TO
BE MORE HONEST WITH THE MAN
SHE IS DATING.
WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> MY BEST FRIEND DEJA IS IN
A RELATIONSHIP FOR SEVERAL
MONTHS.
THEY ARE BEEN GETTING REALLY
REALLY CLOSE.
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THEY
LOVE EACH OTHER.
HE IS TALKING ABOUT
MARRIAGE.
AND THERE IS THIS BIG SECRET
THAT SHE NEEDS TO TL.
JERRY: LET'S BRING DEJA.
DEJA, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH
THIS FELLOW?
>> YES.
JERRY: TELL ME ABOUT IT?
>> I MET HIM A FEW MONTHS
AGO AND WE'VE BEEN SEEING
EACH OTHER EVER SINCE.
I WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP THAT
WAS GETTING ROCKY WHEN I MET
HIM.
THE GENTLEMAN I WAS IN THE
RELATIONSHIP ALREADY WE
DECEMBER EYED TO WORK THINGS
OUT.
AND WHEN WE DID IT ENDED UP
THAT TYSON AND I DIDN'T LET
GO MUCH OF EACH OTHER.
NOW I AM READY TO LEAVE THE
FIRST RELATIONSHIP AND ENTER
INTO IT WITH TYSON.
JERRY: THERE IS SOMETHING
YOU DIDN'T TELL TYSON?
>> YES, I NEED TO TELL HIM
BEFORE I COMMIT TO HIM.
JERRY: WHAT IS IT THAT YOU
HAVE BEEN KEEPING FROM HIM
SH
>> THAT I'M A ***.
JERRY: YOU THINK HE MAY HAVE
SOME INTEREST IN THIS
INFORMATION?
SO YOU'VE BEEN DATING HIM
THREE MONTHS AND HE HAS NO
IDEA YOU WERE BORN A BOY?
>> NO.
JERRY: WHAT IS YOUR -- FOR
THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW,
EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY
***?
>> I WAS ACTUALLY BORN A
MALE.
I HAVE SINCE THEN NOT
TOTALLY TRANSFORMED.
THE CORRECT TERM IS
PREOPERATIVE ***.
JERRY: YOU STILL HAVE THE
MALE ORGAN?
>> YES, I LIVE FULLY AS A
FEMALE.
JERRY: OK.
IT IS GOOD TO HAVE
EVERYTHING, YOU NEVER KNOW.
THERE PROBABLY ARE A LOT OF
GUYS WHO AREN'T GOING TO BE
TOO HAPPY KNOWING THAT THE
PERSON THEY ARE KISSING IS
REALLY A GUY IF THEYY ARE
HETEROSEXUAL.
WHY WOULDN'T THAT BE THE
FIRST TIME YOU SAY, WAIT A
SECOND?
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
FOR EVERYONE I UNDERSTAND
THAT EVERYONE LOOKS AT IT
THAT THE ASPECT.
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM
MY POINT OF VIEW.
I NEVER FELT LIKE A MALE.
I DON'T LOOK LIKE A MALE.
I DON'T LIVE MY LIFE LIKE A
MALE.
IT IS NOT THAT SIMPLE TO
TELL SOMEONE.
WHEN YOU ARE AT A DATE WITH
SOMEONE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN
IT WILL GET ANYWHERE.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME GOING
TO DINNER OR TO A MOVIE WITH
SOMEONE -- WHY DO I HAVE TO
TELL THEM FIRST?
JERRY: OK.
I ADMIT YOU DON'T HAVE TO
REVEAL YOUR WHOLE PRIVATE
LIFE WITH SOMEONE YOU GO OUT
WITH, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE A
FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF
INFORMATION THAT HE PROBABLY
WANTS TO -- WHAT DO YOU
THINK HIS REACTION WILL BE
WHEN YOU TELL HIM?
>> I'M REALLY NOT SURE.
LIKE I SAID TYSON IS THE ONE
THAT'S BEEN ON ME ABOUT
LEAVING MY OTHER
RELATIONSHIP AND SETTLING
DOWN WITH HIM.
I MET HIS WHOLE FAMILY.
I KNOW HIS FRIENDS MUCH WE
GO DO THINGS TOGETHER.
JERRY: THE FAMILY, YOU HAVE
EVEN BEEN THERE?
>> YES, THE WHOLE FAMILY.
JERRY: THEY ARE SAYING WHAT
A LOVEL YOUNG LADY YOU ARE?
>> RIGHT.
JERRY: WE MAY WANT TO TAPE
THE FIRST FAMILY REUNION.
YOU ARE SENSITIVE ON THIS
ISSUE, WHY MERCEDES?
>> WELL, IL LIKE SHE'S
RIGHT, IT IS COMPLICATED TO
TELL GUYS IN THE BEGINNING.
JERRY: WHY DO YOU THINK IT
IS?
>> WHAT REASON DO YOU HAVE
TO TELL A PERSON RIGHT THEN
AND THERE.
MY NAME IS MERCEDES I AM A
***.
JERRY: YOU ARE A
***?
>> YES I AM.
JERRY: IS ANYBODY HERE THAT
ISN'T?
>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION
MAY I ASK A QUESTION.
JERRY: SURE.
>> WHEN SHE ADMITTED TO
BEING A ***
EVERYBODY WRINKLED THEIR
NOSE UP.
CAN I ASK WHAT IT IS THAT
SHE DID SO WRONG?
I AM NOT HURTING ANYBODY.
JERRY: THAT'S A FAIR.
>> THAT'S TYSON'S DECISION.
JERRY: FOR -- I AGREE WITH
YOU.
THERE'S NOTHING PARTICULARLY
WRONG WITH, YOU ARE WHAT YOU
ARE.
AND GOD MADE EACH OF US AND
WILLAE DECISIONS ABOUT
WHAT WE WILL BE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
THE QUESTION IS YOU HAVE
BEEN WITH HIM THREE MONTHS
AND THAT MAYBE IS THE
QUESTION.
IT SEEMS TO BE A LONG TIME
PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU ARE
SLEEPING IN THE SAME BED
TOGETHER THAT YOU SHOULD
TELL HIM.
WE WILL TAKE A BREAK.
WHEN YOU COME BACK YOU WILL
HAVE A CHANCE TO TELL HIM.
WHEN WE GET YOU CAN
JERRY: WELCOME BACK.
IF YOU JUST JOINED US, DEJA
IS WITH -- UPON THE
RECOMMENDATION OF HER FRIEND
MERCEDES AND ALSO HER OWN
REALIZATION FEELS THAT SHE
NOW HAS TO REVEAL A SECRET
TO HER BOYFRIEND.
AND THE SECRET SHE'S GOING
TO REVEAL IS THAT SHE --
DESPITE APPEARANCES -- WAS
BORN A MALE AND IS NOW A
PRE-OP ***.
HE DOESN'T KNOW THAT.
HOW DO YOU THINK HE WILL
REACT WHEN YOU TELL HIM?
>> I DON'T KNOW, JERRY.
TYSON IS BIG ON
UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.
WHEN HE FIRST STARTED
TELLING ME THAT HE LOVED ME,
HE TOLD ME THAT BECAUSE HE
HAS BEEN IN RELATIONSHIPS
BEFORE WHERE THE LOVE WAS
UNCONDITIONAL, HE MADE THAT
A BIG ISSUE TO ME, THAT IF
YOU LOVE ME IT SHOULD BE
UNCONDITIONAL.
JERRY: THAT'S A GOOD TEST.
>> I AM HOPING THAT HE MEANT
THAT WHEN HE SAID IT.
JERRY: DO YOU LOVE HIM?
>> YES.
JERRY: LET'S FIND OUT HOW HE
REACTS.
I SHOULD TELL YOU THAT HE'S
BEEN OUTSIDE OF THE STUDIO
AND DOESN'T KNOW.
HE KNOWS HE IS ABOUT TO HEAR
A SECRET FROM HER BUT
DOESN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
IT'S GOING TO BE.
SO LET'S SEE WHEN YOU TELL
HIM.
HERE HE IS, TYSON.
JERRY: TYSON, WELCOME TO THE
SHOW.
>> HOW YOU DOING?
JERRY: HOW LONG HAVE YOU
BEEN TOGETHER WITH DEJA?
>> THREE MONTHS.
JERRY: AND YOUR FEELINGS
ABOUT DEJA?
>> I LOVE HER.
YEAH, I WANT TO BE WITH HER.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
JERRY: WHAT'S THE BEST
QUALITY ABOUT HER?
>> SHE'S RESWEET.
SHE'S GOT A GOOD HEART.
OPEN-MINDED, YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN?
JERRY: GOOD.
YOU KNOW YOU ARE HERE
BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO TELL
YOU SOMETHING.
GO AHEAD DEJA.
DEJA GO AHEAD.
>> ACTUALLY THERE ARE TWO
THINGS I WANT TO TELL YOU.
ONE, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I
HAVE TOLD YOU NOW THAT I DO
LOVE YOU.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE READY TO
BE WITH ME AND I AM READY TO
MAKE THAT SAME COMMITMENT.
I AM READY TO END MY OTHER
RELATIONSHIP AND GO FORTH
WITH OURS.
BEFORE WE CAN DO THAT THERE
IS SOMETHING ELSE I HAVE TO
TELL YOU.
TYSON, LOOK AT ME.
I'M A ***.
>> YOU'RE WHAT?
>> SAY SOMETHING.
>> WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO BE
IGNORANT, YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN?
I WASN'T RAISED LIKE THAT.
I STILL LOVE YOU AS A HUMAN
BEING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
LIFE GOES ON.
JERRY: BUT YOU ARE NOT GOING
TO HAVE AN INTIMATE
RELATIONSHIP WITH HER?
I WISH I COULD BOTTLE YOUR
EXPRESSION.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S --
>> MAN, I HAD HER AROUND MY
FAMILY AND EVERYTHING.
THEY COULDN'T TELL.
JERRY: NO ONE EVER CAME UP
TO YOU AND SAID --
>> NO.
NONE OF MY HOMIES.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, MY
HOMEYS LIKE HER.
JERRY: HOW DO YOU FEEL WITH
HIS RESPONSE?
>> IN A WAY IT IS KIND OF
WHAT I EXPECTED BECAUSE I
KNOW WHAT TYPE OF MAN HE IS.
THAT'S WHAT MADE ME FALL IN
LOVE WITH HIM.
IT'S A POSITIVE REACTION,
THAT THERE'S A CHANCE THAT
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET PAST
THIS.
I CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION
FOR HIM.
IT'S UP TO HIM.
AND IT'S NOBODY ELSE'S
DECISION EITHER IT.
IS TOTALLY UP TO TYSON.
HE'S HIS OWN MAN.
I HOPE THAT HE REALIZED HOW
MUCH THAT I LOVE HIM.
AND THAT'S WHY I -- YOU
KNOW, BEFORE I COULD --
BEFORE WE COULD GO ANY
FURTHER AND PROVIDE TO ME
TELLING HIM THIS, THAT'S
WHAT HE WANTED TO DO.
I HOPE WE CAN STILL WORK ON
THAT.■
>> WORK ON IT HUH?
>> YOU SAY YOU STILL LOVE
ME?
>> YEAH BUT CAN'T BE
GETTING INTIMATE WITH YOU
NOW.
JERRY: WAS THERE A
TEMPTATION TO BE INTIMATE
BEFORE?
>> I MEAN WE STILL GOING TO
GO OUT AND HAVE FUN.
WE WILL BE THE BEST OF
FRIENDS NO MATTER WHAT.
I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT
ANYBODY THINKS ABOUT ME.
JERRY: GOOD FOR YOU.
>> I'M GOING TO WHAT I
WANT TO DO.
JERRY: WAS THERE A TIME --
WERE YOU TEMPTED TO BE
INTIMATE WITH HER BEFORE
HAND?
>> OF COURSE.
LOOK AT HER.
WHO WOULDN'T BE?
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
I MEAN --
JERRY: WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A
BREAK.
WHEN WE COME BACK WE WILL
MEET SABRINA.
SHE SAYS SHE LOVES HER
BOYFRIEND DEARLY BUT THE
QUESTION IS WILL HE STILL
WANT HER WHEN HE FINDS OUT
SHE IS REALLY A HE.
STAY WITH US.
>> WHY YOUDO THAT?
JERRY: THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
WELCOME BACK.
IMAGINE FINDING OUT THAT THE
PERSON YOU LOVE IS NOT WHO
YOU THINK?
TODAY WE ARE TALKING TO GUYS
THAT ARE FINDING OUT THAT
THEIR GIRLFRIENDS ARE REALLY
MEN.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO MEET
NAJA, SHE SAID THAT HER
FRIEND IS KEEPING A SECRET
FROM HER BOYFRIEND.
ABOUT IT.
>> SHE IS LIKE MY SISTER.
SHE IS DATING THIS GUY KENNY
FOR ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS NOW.
I TOLD HER IT TIME FOR HER
TO COME CLEAN AND TELL HIM
THAT SHE'S ***.
IT IS TIME FOR HER TO
CONFESS.
THEY LOVE EACH OTHER.
AND I THINK IT'S TIME.
JERRY: HOW DO YOU THINK --
HOW YOU -- DO YOU THINK HER
BOYFRIEND WILL REACT WHEN HE
HEARS THE NEWS?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
JERRY: LET'S BRING OUT YOUR
SISTER, YOUR CLOSE FRIEND,
SABRINA.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
>> HI, JERRY.
JERRY: YOU'VE BEEN GOING
WITH YOUR BOYFRIEND, HIS
NAME'S KENNY FOR SEVEN
MONTHS.
>> YES.
JERRY: AND YOU NEVER TOLD
HIM THAT YOU WERE BORN A
GUY?
>> NO.
JERRY: HAVE YOU -- WHAT IS
YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM
BEEN LIKE?
>> EXCUSE ME?
JERRY: WHAT IS YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM LIKE?
>> WE ARE CLOSE.
WE FIGHT ON AND OFF LIKE
THAT.
HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT I AM
BECAUSE WE DON'T SPEND A LOT
OF TIME TOGETHER.
BUT WE ARE MOVING IN
TOGETHER ON FRIDAY SO --
JERRY: YOU THINK YOU'RE
MOVING IN ON FRIDAY.
HAVE YOU -- I SUSPECT YOU
HAVEN'T BEEN INTIMATE WITH
HIM?
>> NO.
JERRY: ANY KISSING?
>> YEAH, KISSING.
A LITLE BIT OF BUMP AND
GRINDING BUT, YOU KNOW --
JERRY: MORE BUMPING THAN
GRINDING?
ALL RIGHT.
ONE QUICK QUESTION AND I
WILL BRING HIM OUT.
THE QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU
IS HOW DO YOU THINK HE'S
GOING TO REACT?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
I AM SO NERVOUS I DON'T
KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW.
JERRY: OK.
HE KNOWS HE'S HERE TO HEAR
SOMETHING SO WE'LL SEE.
HERE IS KENNY!
JERRY: HOLD ON.
EITH■E YOU'RE RIGHT FROM DR.
SHAVAGO OR ARE WEARING A
DISGEEZ FOR -- YOU KNOW WHAT
THE SECRET WILL BE?
>> I KNOW YOUR SHOW.
JERRY: WHAT YOU ARE SAYING
IF YOU WERE ON "OPRAH," YOU
WOULDN'T BE WEARING A
DISGUISE?
>> IF I WAS ON "OPRAH" I
WOULDN'T WEAR A DISGUISE.
JERRY: HOW LONG HAVE YOU
BEEN GOING TOGETHER?
>> SIX, SEVEN EIGHT MONTHS.
JERRY: WHAT ARE YOUR
FEELINGS FOR SABRINA?
>> I LIKE HER.
I MEAN, SHE'S PRETTY
DIFFICULT SOMETIMES.
JERRY: WHAT IS IT -- HOW IS
SHE DIFFICULT?
>> SHE'S BULL-HEADED.
SHE'S JUST HARD.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS
SOMETHING.
SHE'S HARD.
YOU KNOW?
JERRY: YEAH.
ALL RIGHT.
SHE'S GOING TO TELL YOU
SOMETHING -- YOU KNOW YOU'RE
HEAR BECAUSE SHE'S GOING TO
TELL YOU SOMETHING.
YOU AGREED TO HEAR THE
SECRET.
GO AHEAD, IT'S YOUR SHOW.
>> I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, KENNY YOU KNOW I LOVE
YOU, BUT CAN I MOVE?
>> WHAT SHE GOT TO MOVE FOR?
JERRY: FRIDAY?
GO AHEAD.
>> I CAN'T.
JERRY: YOU CAN MOVE YOUR
CHAIR AWAY.
>> WHAT YOU MEAN MOVE THE
CHAIR AWAY?
WHY WOULD I HAVE TO MOVE THE
CHAIR AWAY?
>> I AM A PRE-OP
***.
>> YOU ONE TOO?
>> NO, I'M 100% WOMAN.
Y: SO AM I.
NO -- GO AHEAD.
>> I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT'S
THERE TO SAY AFTER THAT?
SHE'S A DUDE.
RIGHT?SAYING SHE'S A DUDE,
SHE'S A MAN?
JERRY: TECHNICALLY SHE'S A
PRE-OP DUDE.
>> SHE'S STILL A DUDE.
RIGHT?
JERRY: DO YOU -- YOU OWE HIM
A LITTLE BIT OF AN
EXPLANATION.
>> SHE DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME
NOTHING.
JERRY: YOU SAID WHATOU
ARE, BUT YOU OWE HIM A
LITTLE BIT OF AN
EXPLANATION.
FOR SEVEN MONTHS YOU'VE BEEN
DECEIVING HIM.
IN FAIRNESS.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY TO
HIM?
>> I'M SORRY AND I STILL
LOVE YOU.
>> SHE'S A DUDE.
SHE'S A DUDE THOUGH.
JERRY: OK.
I'LL ASK THE SAME QUESTION I
DID --
>> IT EXPLAINS A LOT.
IT EXPLAINS A LOT.
JERRY: WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
LAST SEVEN MONTHS THAT IN
HINDSIGHT YOU LOOK BACK AND
SAY, OH YEAH.
WHAT DOES IT EXPLAIN?
>> IT EXPLAINS WHY SHE ONLY
LETS ME SEE HER [BEEP].
JERRY: I'M SO GLAD I ASKED
THAT QUESTION.
DO YOU -- I GOT TO END THIS
SEGMENT.
>> SHE A DUDE TOO?
ARE THEY ALL DUDES?
>> NO THEY ALL TRANSSEXUALS.
SHE'S A TRANSY, SHE'S A
TRANSY AND YOUR GIRL'S A
TRANSY.
JERRY: SHE MENTIONED BEFORE
THAT SHE WANTED TO -- THAT
SHE HAD PLANS TO MOVE IN
WITH YOU.
>> WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MOVE
IN TOMORROW.
JERRY: YOU ARE STILL GOING
TO?
>> I MEAN, DAM, I DON'T KNOW
.
I MEAN IT'S LIKE -- I MEAN,
YOU KNOW -- I LOST A LOT OF
STUFF OVER SABRINA, YOU
KNOW, MY APARTMENT BEING ONE
OF THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW
WHAT I MEAN.
SO WE SUPPOSED TO BE MOVING.
I'M NOT GOING TO LIVE ON THE
STREET.
I MEAN AFTER SEVEN MONTHS I
CARE A LOT ABOUT HIM, HER,
WHOEVER.
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO -- I'M
NOT TRYING TO -- YOU KNOW.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK
SOMETHING OUT.
JERRY: UP NEXT SHE WANTS TO
PROPOSE MARRIAGE TO HER
BOYFRIEND, BUT WILL WEDDING
BE
JERRY: WELCOME BACK.
THANK YOU.
MY GUESTS TODAY ARE MEN WHO
ARE DATING PRE-OP
TRANSSEXUALS.
THE CATCH IS THAT NONE OF
THE MEN KNOW THAT THEIR
GIRLFRIENDS WERE REALLY BORN
GUISE.
MEET TIANA SHE SAYS IT IS
TIME FOR HER FRIEND BRIANA
TO COME CLEAN.
TELL ME ABOUT IT.
>> I HAVE KNOWN HER FOR
ABOUT FOUR IEARS NOW, ANY
TIME WE GO TO THE CLUBS AND
STUFF SHEñ NEVER TELLS THEM
SHE'S A MAN.
SOME GUYS WOULD KILL YOU IF
THEY FOUND OUT YOU ARE A
MAN.
I THINK IT IS WRONG.
I THINK BRIANA IS LEADING
GAZE ON.
THEY THINK IT IS ONE THING
AND IT'S ANOTHER.
JERRY: ARE THERE CERTAIN
CLUBS WHERE TRANSSEX ULES
HANG OUT?
>> YEAH, WE DON'T FREQUENT
THOSE CLUBS.
JERRY: WE GO TO STRAIGHT
CLUBS.
IF A GUY GOES TO A STRAIGHT
CLUB AND STARTS A
CONVERSATION THEY THINK IT
SI STRAIGHT WOMAN.
IT IS TIME THAT SHE COMES
CLEAN IS WHAT YOU SAY.
HERE IS BRIANA.
BRIANA - OK, WHY WOULD YOU
GO TO A CLUB, A STRAIGHT
CLUB, YOU SEE, IT IS A
FRIDAY NIGHT, PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN WORKING ALL WEEK.
THEY ARE TRYING TO MEET
PEOPLE MUCH A GUY COMES UP
TO YOU A THINKS YOU ARE A
WOMAN, AT SOME POINT WOULD
YOU FEEL IT'S YOUR
OBLIGATION TO TELL THEM THAT
THERE IS SOMETHING YOU
SHOULD KNOW ABOUT ME?
>> YEAH,UT IT IS HARD TO
TELL GUYS WHAT YOU ARE,
ESPECIALLY IF YOU LIKE THEM
A LOT.
AND I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW
WHAT TO SAY, BUT I'VE BEEN
GOING OUT WITH ADRIAN HERE
FOR THREE MONTHS NOW.
AND HE'S -- I DON'T KNOW --
I THINK HE KIND OF FIGURES
SOMETHING IS GOING ON.
HE SLEPT IN THE SAME BED
WITH ME AND ALL.
JERRY: YOU WEREN'T NAKED OR
ANYTHING?
>> I HAD ON *** AND A
BRA.
JERRY: THE FIRST TIME THAT
HE KISSED YOU, WOULDN'T THAT
HAVE BEEN A TIME TO SAY
WHOA, HOLD ON THERE IS
SOMETHING YOU SHOULD KNOW.
I COU SEE IF IT IS A
HETEROSEXUAL GUY, AND HE
JUST WASN'T THERE, HE
PROBABLY WOULD WANT IT KNOW
THAT.
I COULD SEE A GUY GETTING
PRETTY ANGRY IF HE WAS
TRICKED INTO KISSING SOMEONE
THAT, YOU KNOW.
>> THAT'S TRUE, BUT IT'S NOT
LIKE I MADE HIM KISS ME.
HE MADE THE FIRST MOVE.
JERRY: HE THINKS YOU'RE A
WOMAN.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
JERRY: I COME UP WITH THESE
GOOD QUESTIONS BECAUSE HEY,
I'M A TALK SHOW HOST.
>> JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY: HOW DO YOU THINK HE'S
GOING TO REACT?
>> HE HAS A VERY BAD TEMPER.
JERRY: OH, GREAT.
>> SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S
GOING TO DO.
I REALLY DON'T KNOW.
JERRY: DO YOU LOVE HIM?
>> I LOVE HIM A LOT.
JERRY: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO
TELL HIM AFTER HIS INITIAL
ANGER?
>> I HOPE WE CAN WORK IT
OUT.
BUT I KNOW THAT HE -- HE'S
STRAIGHT SO I KNOW THAT HE
PROBABLY WON'T LIKE IT.
AND HEROBABLY WILL DO
SOMETHING.
JERRY: WHEN WE COME BACK WE
WILL LET YOU TELL HIM.
OK.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
JERRY: WELCOME BACK.
MY GUESTS TODAY HAVE BEEN
REVEALING SECRETS TO THE
ONES THEY LOVE.
AND NOW BRIANA YOU ARE --
YOU ARE READY NOW TO TELL
THIS MAN THAT YOU LOVE THAT
YOU ARE, IN FACT, A PRE-OP
***.
OK.
LET'S FIND OUT WHAT HIS
REACTION WILL BE.
HE KNOWS HE IS HERE -- HE
DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE SECRET
IS BUT HE KNOWS IT IS
SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR
PERSONAL LIFE.
HERE IS ADRIAN.
JERRY: ADRIAN, WELCOME TO
THE SHOW.
>> HI.
JERRY: HOW LONG HAVE YOU
BEEN TOGETHER WITH BRIANA?
>> ABOUT TWO 1/2 MONTHS.
JERRY: TWO 1/2 MONTHS.
AND HOW IS THE RELATIONSHIP
BEEN GOING?
HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE IT.
>> I LIKE HER.
BRIANA SHE'S NICE.
I LIKE GOING OUT WITH HER.
AND I LIKE GOING OVER TO HER
HOUSE FOR DINNER, BECAUSE
HER GRANDMOTHER, SHE CAN
COOK REAL GOOD.
JERRY: SO YOU ME THE
FAMILY?
>> YES.
JERRY: HAS -- WELL, YOU KNOW
YOU ARE HERE BECAUSEHE'S
GOING TO REVEAL SOMETHING
ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP,
RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
JERRY: GO AHEAD.
>> I LOVE YOU A LOT.
I LOVE YOU A LOT.
AND THERE IS SOMETHING I'VE
BEEN HOLDING BACK FROM YOU.
I'M A ***.
>> YOU'RE WHAT?
>> I'M A ***.
>> YOU'RE WHAT?
>> I'M A ***.
>> WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME
THAT IN THE BEGINNING?
>> BECAUSE I WAS FALLING IN
LOVE WITH YOU.
>> HOW COULD YOU DO
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
EMBARRASS ME ON TV.
WHY YOU DO THAT?
>> WE ARE LEAVING.
WE ARE LEAVING.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT,
HONEY.
JERRY: COULD YOU, OTHER THAN
THE THROWN CHAIR, COULD YOU
EXPECT ANY OTHER KIND OF
REACTION?
>> I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE
VIOLENT BUT -- JUST TO THINK
ABOUT -- IT IS NOT FUNNY AT
ALL.
SEE YOU GUYS DON'T
UNDERSTAND, IT'S HARD BEING
THIS WAY.
WE DID NOT ASK TO BE THIS
WAY.
WE DIDN'T.
BECAUSE IF I COULD CHANGE IT
SHALL I WOULD.
BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WANT THE
CRITICISM AND TO BE TAUNT AT
AND TO BE PICKED ON WHAT I
WALK DOWN THE STREET.
JERRY: THAT'S FAIR.
ON A SERIOUS NOTE LET ME SAY
THAT'S VERY, VERY FAIR.
WE CAN'TPEAK FOR YOU ON
THAT MUCH I DON'T THINK
THAT'S WHY PEOPLE GET UPSET.
PEOPLE DON'T GET UPSET WITH
WHAT YOU ARE, PEOPLE GET
UPSET WITH THE NOTION THAT
WHATEVER YOU ARE, YOU ARE
NOT BEING HONEST WITH THE
PERSON THAT IS GIVING THEIR
HEART TO YOU.
WHEN WE COME BACK WE WILL
HEAR FROM ADRIAN.
STAY WITH US.
JERRY: WELCOME BACK.
ADRIAN YOU ARE CERTAINLY
ENTITLED TO RESPOND IN A
NONVIOLENT WAY.
GO AHEAD.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY?
>> WHY DID YOU DO THAT?
WHY COULDN'T YOU TELL ME AT
THE BEGINNING?
I HAVE A DAUGHTER.
AND HER MOTHER WILL THINK
I'M A GAY OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT.
MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
>> THAT'S TRUE -- I DON'T
KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
I DON'T.
I MEAN,÷ COULDN'T -- WHEN I
FIRST MET YOU, I WAS GOING
TO TELL YOU THEN BUT --
>> YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME.
>> BECAUSE I KNEW IF I TOLD
YOU.
>> WHAT IS SHE SAYING OVER
THERE?
>> I AM TRYING TO TALK TO MY
SISTER.
>> ARE YOU A DRAGON TOO?
>> YOU KNOW WHAT ALL GUYS DO
THIS -- ALL GUYS DO THIS
WHEN THEY SEE YOU, THEY LOOK
AT YOU AS A WOMAN.
YOU ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO DATE.
ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO TAKE
OUT.
HAD THEY FIND OUT WHAT YOU
ARE, THAT'S WHEN THEY WANT
TO DISH YOU, DO YOU
UNDERSTAND?
WE'RE GOOD ENOUGH -- WE'RE
GOOD ENOUGH --
>> YOU HAVE TO TELL THEM ANY
WAY, SO WHY@ON'T YOU TELL
THEM AT THE BEGINNING?
>> I WOULD LIKE FOR ANYBODY
TO BE IN MY POSITION AND SEE
WHAT THEY WOULD DO IF THEY
MET SOMEBODY THEYY
CARED ABOUT.
>> I'M NOT NO FREAK.
>> I THOUGHT YOU HAD
MASCULINE THINGS.
REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER --
>> WHAT IS THAT?
>> WHAT'S THAT?
>> WHAT ARE YOU?
>> I AM SOMEBODY SITTING UP
HERE LIKE YOU ISE ONLY
THING IS I GOT A WIG ON.
WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS --
>> YOU SAY THAT YOU WORRY
ABOUT GETTING HIT OR
WHATEVER, WHY DO YOU DATE
STRAIGHT MEN.
YOU OVER HERE ARE TALKING
ABOUT LOVE AND THIS AND THAT
IS UNCONDITIONAL, BUT YOU'RE
NOT LETTING THEM FALL IN
LOVE WITH YOU.
YOU ARE LETTING THEM FALL IN
LOVE WITH AN ILLUSION.
>> THAT'S THE THING RIGHT
THERE, I MEAN --
>> AT LEAST MINE LOOKS LIKE
A GIRL.
>> AS FAR AS THE ILLUSION,
HE FELL IN LOVE WITH ME ON
THE INSIDE AS WELL AS ON THE
OUTSIDE.
HE SAT UP HERE AND SAID THAT
I WAS SWEET AND THAT I AM A
BEAUTIFUL PERSON AND I HAVE
A GOOD HEART.
THAT'S WHAT HE FELL IN LOVE
WITH.
NONE OF THAT IS AN ILLUSION.
>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH THAT.
IF YOU WRANT TO WALK DOWN
THE STREET AND BE LIKE THAT,
THAT'S FINE.
YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS
COMING HERE IN THE FRONT OF
ALL THE WORLD BRINGING YOUR
BUSINESS TO THIS SHOW.
>> BUT THE REASON THAT I'M
DOING THIS, THE WHOLE REASON
THAT I'M DOING THIS IS THAT
PEOPLE SUCH YOURSELF OR
PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BASH
PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF CAN SEE
IT IS NOT A BAD THING.
>> I AM NOT TRYING TO BASH
YOU.
>> WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING
ABOUT BASHING.
>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH WHAT YOU ARE.
WHAT YOU ARE IS YOUR
BUSINESS.
AND WHO YOU ARE SEEING IS
YOUR BUSINESS.
>> IT IS NOT BAD.
THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO
DO.
>> DID I SAY IT WAS BAD, NO
I DID NOT.
IT IS NOT RIGHT TO LET
PEOPLE BELIEVE YOU ARE A
WOMAN AND WAIT EIGHT MONTHS
DOWN THE LINE FOR THEM TO BE
FALLING IN LOVE WITH YOU OR
BE ATTRACTED TO YOU AND THEN
SAY, I'M A MAN.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
>> BUT LIKE I SAID -- LIKE I
SAID WHEN HE SAT ON THE
STAGE AND SAID HE LOVED ME,
HE SAID HE FELL IN LOVE WITH
MY HEART AND FELL IN LOVE
WITH THE GOOD PERSON I AM.
HE IS NOT FALLING IN LOVE
WITH MY EXTEAROR.
HE FELL IN LOVE WITH THE
PERSON I AM.
>> THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT.
>> IT IS IMPORTANT THAT.
IS WHY I AM TELLING HIM NOW.
YOU SAID PEOPLE DON'T
UNDERSTAND, PEOPLE ARE
UPSET.
JERRY: LET ME G OUT
ANOTHER GUEST THAT I THINK
CAN SHED SOME LIGHT HERE.
SHE IS A *** AND SHE
WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS
ISSUE.
AND HER NAME IS KRISTIN.
HERE'S KRISTIN.
>> FIRST OFF --
JERRY: HOLD ON.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
>> FIRST OFF, THESE ALL
WOMEN.
THESE ARE WOMEN.
WE ARE VERY SPECIAL WOMEN,
BUT WE ARE WOMEN.
AND I WANT TO BE RESPECTED
LIKE THAT.
PLEASE.
WE ARE NOTURTING ANYBODY.
WE ASK FOR RESPECT.
>> THESE ARE CHOICES.
JERRY: I'LL BE BACK WITH
JERRY: LET ME TAKE THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU ALL
FOR BEING WITH US.
I HOPE YOU CAN WORK
SOMETHINT IN YOUR
PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS AND
FIND HAPPINESS.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
WE ALL HAVE SECRETS.
A PART OF OUR LIVES OR
PERSONALITY THAT WE CHOOSE
NOT TO SHARE WITH ANYONE
ELSE.
INDEED OUR CLOSETS ARE FULL.
AND IN EACH THERE IS A TALK
SHOW WAITING TO HAPPEN.
OF COURSE, MOST OF US WOULD
NEVER DREAM OF EXPOSING OUR
SECRETS TO THE WORLD.
WE CHERISH OUR PRIVACY AND
WANT OTHERS TO SEE ONLY THAT
SIDE OF US WE CHOOSE TO
PRESENT.
AND THAT'S FINE.
THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
IT IS OK TO HAVE A PRIVATE
LIFE THAT.
IS WHY A PERSON'S HOME IS
HIS OR HER CASTLE.
AND YET THERE ARE SECRETS WE
HAVE NO RIGHT TO KEEP.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN IT MAY
ADVERSELY AFFECT ANOTHER.
THAT IS TO SAY, WHEN THIS
SIGNIFICANT OTHER IN OUR
LIFE MIGHT BEHAVE
DIFFERENTLY OR TAKE ANOTHER
COURSE OF ACTION IF HE OR
SHE KNEW WHAT WE WERE
HIDING.
WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO
MAKE CHOICES ABOUT OUR
LIVES, OUR LIFESTYLES AS
WELL AS OUR SEXUALITY.
ALTHOUGH THERE IS NO
OBLIGATION TO SHARE THAT
WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD, IF
YOU CHOOSE TO SHARE YOUR
LIFE WITH SOMEONE ELSE, THAT
PERSON DOES HAVE THE RIGHT
TO MAKE THE CHOICE AS WELL.
AND AS SUCH IS ENTITLED TO
ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT
YOURSELF YOU HAVE.
HE IS ENTITLED TO LOOK IN
YOUR CT TO SEE IF YOU'RE