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Erik: At this point in your life, where are you seeking advice and coaching?
Matt: I have my great spans of consiliaries. I go to a variety of people for advice. I
still go to my old Whole Foods crowd, these are my friends who have this incredible wide
variety of backgrounds, you know, former CEO, guy who spent a lot of time in jail under
Francisco Franco, a guy who was the fire fighter union president, you know, all kinds of really
interesting people. A man who is a famous character actor, especially in a lot great
old Westerns, and they've been spectacular at giving me advice. But I'm always looking
for more and better advice, I often look to people who have failed because I think people
who have failed at something often chew on it so hard they realize exactly what they
did wrong and what they needed to do to have succeeded. And again, I'm looking at people
who are the kinds of older community leaders that I wanna be, that are maybe 15, 20, 25
years older than I am. And I'm asking myself and asking them in a way, "How do I—What
do I need to do to be more like you?" So that as I get older, I can fill the role that they
had filled.