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What about acts of physical violence towards women but that kind of, there's a fight and
it is between a man and a woman and it is all fisticuffs?
It's one of the most peculiar things you could ever speak about.
A man laying hands on a woman as far as I'm concerned is the lowest of the low! A man
is built physically to be more imposing, more strong than a woman is, that's it. So when
he lays hands on a woman and uses his strength in that way, when there's no need to; I have
a problem with that. That BOTHERS me!
Just with the aim of inflicting pain?
That's not acceptable.
If on the other hand...a woman wants to square up to me as a man, on a physical level...that's
a different ball game. I was always raised "You don't hit women, you don't hit women,
you don't hit women!", I wouldn't hit the woman. Would I restrain her? Yeah! Now if
I have to use some physical force to restrain her, yeah I'm going to restrain her. Am I
going to cause her deliberate pain by doing so or or...give her some of THIS? No, but
I'm going to restrain her if I need to if she's hysterical because you know how some
of them can get.
If you witness a female and a male for whatever the reason going at it...
As I said, I became privy to a situation like this. A woman had hit this guy in his face,
in a public place, and it begs the question in my view...
What does the woman hope to gain by that? Because as far as I'm concerned, a woman generally
speaking is not going to be able to compete with a man in a physical sense, so why is
it OK in a woman's eyes to put a man in a position where he has to react to that?
Because one of two things will happen: Either, he will do nothing, and be humiliated...or
he'll do something. What's he going to do? "That's out of order you shouldn't hit me
round the face!" or is he going to react like a man would react?
Why would a woman do that? What makes the woman think its OK? Because first of all,
you're going to get knocked out; worst case scenario, or best case scenario, you've emasculated
the man in front of people. And are you telling me that whatever you're arguing about is really
so important that there's a need for that?
So why is there this double standard of: we wouldn't expect a man to touch a woman in
a way that anyone would perceive as inappropriate but a woman can hit a man round his face?
What's that about? That's ridiculous!
You DON'T hit women! You don't do that. But at the same time, I find it very very interesting
how it is when it comes to a small minority of women...they are all about equal rights
in one respect...yet they like all the benefits that being a woman affords them in terms of
chivalry, opening doors, carrying luggage...treating them like women.
You're either equal all you're NOT! If women are equal, then if you hit a man round his
face, you should expect some come back on it but this woman; she obviously didn't expect
this guy to retort, and he retorted!
But as I say in that respect, I kind of think she had it coming. Why are you going to hit
the man round his face? If you're having an altercation with a man and words are being
exchanged, and you're getting up in each other's grill and you're both feeling each other's
spit on your faces, that's one thing. It takes on a whole new level and goes past a whole
new boundary when it gets physical....and the man should never be physical with a woman
first! If on the other hand a woman gets physical with a man all bets are off! What do you expect
the man to do? You expect him to sit there and let himself be hit? You're having a laugh!
We don't live in that world anymore!
It is, do you wish to be treated equally? And we're talking about men and women here...I
have a personal example of this. I did not have a job at the time, and this person did,
and she said to me "If you were any kind of a boyfriend, you would be buying things for
me." and I said to her "I'm on Job Seekers, if you want to play that game, I'm really
hungry; get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich!"
What else could I say?
Well its a good comeback, I wouldn't have come up with that; its great!
I was really proud of it actually.
This person that you're speaking about, what did she say when you said "Get in the kitchen
and make me a sandwich."?
She just went quiet...
There is a double standard there, that for once benefits women. But if a woman wants
to step out of her boundary, and step out of her lane and hit a man first and go down
that route where you want to get into fisticuffs and violence with a man who is built stronger
than you...That's on you if you want to go and do that; that's silly!
Needless to say, this man...battered her, he battered her! And something tells me she
wasn't expecting it because she was walking away when he exploded but...why did it have
to get to that point?
So this woman walked away thinking that that behavior was acceptable. Why is it acceptable?
You wouldn't expect a man to cop a feel off a woman, you wouldn't expect a man to hit
a woman. But it's OK for you to hit a man? Why is it? Why is it OK for you to lay hands
on people? You don't lay hands on people these days!
You expect it to happen between men, you expect it to happen between women; hair pulling and
all the rest of it. But a man and a woman? That's RARE!
Where did you learn that from? You as the woman, did your parents tell you it was a
good idea to hit a man because he should never hit you back? What world are you living in?
It's not worth it.
It's not worth it at all. Usually, if you're going to swing at someone...
It's usually quite important isn't it? Whatever it is you're swinging for? I think to myself
"What was said that was so offensive and/or so important, that it got that far?".
I don't know if there's anything that a woman could say to me that would make me think "I
am going to try and lay hands on you". There's so many things that can happen these days.
You get done for assault, you go to jail, you get sued, whatever the case is. Why is
it that important?
If someone has pissed you off you've let them get that far in to *** you off; you've caught
a feeling about it.
The way I see it is I've got someone to answer to, and that someone isn't my friends, its
myself. It's how do you justify someone as big and strong as I am trying to hit a woman?
How do you justify it? What has she done, what has she said that's that important? Nothing
really. If its a man its a different thing altogether.
Even with another man, because all it takes is a punch to go wrong and you end up killing
someone these days; they *** their head off the floor and they have a hemorrhage and they
die or whatever. So its like, what is it that important that you have to fight for? Is someone
invading your house? Is someone threatening your family? Have they groped your woman?
Have they hit your mother? That is something to get up in arms about, that matters!
Have they called you fat? Have they called you big lips? Have they called you ugly? Have
they made fun of the fact that you have a lisp? That's not important...
In those scenarios, there's justification, I don't see what other justification there
is. From that scenario we've been speaking about, I don't see how whatever was said beforehand;
how it could justify, unless someone's got some sort of mental imbalance...that sort
of reaction. It just seems like an extreme reaction between a male and a female! I've
never heard anything like it.
Don't hit women, its wrong!
Unless they hit you first, then you got to see where you're at in your mind. Make sure
whatever you do its worth it is what I'd say....
If she was coming at me with a knife....
Well yeah alright but even that, you can punch her once and she'll fall down! If a woman
is kicking me in my balls for example, or trying to, or we're having an argument....I
don't think I'd hit her this is the thing.
Its the restraint isn't it? (Yeah)
As the person with more physical prowess, you have the responsibility to act the most
responsibly. So if that means restraining yourself, if that means restraining yourself
or restraining her then do so.
But swinging doesn't seem like restraint...Putting her hands behind her back, getting her up
against the wall so she can't knee you or stamp on your feet or bite you or whatever,
that sounds like restraint perhaps...but swinging at her and breaking her jaw and knocking her
teeth out, that's NOT restraint!
You know what I mean? (Yeah) This guy beat the crap out of her. I think she might have
deserved it but...so yeah...Don't hit women, but women don't f**king hit men! Don't do
it...unless they've cheated on you, then you can do it!