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METRO" WE'LL ASK A DOCTOR ABOUT THE HEALTH CARE PORTION OF THE
THE HEALTH CARE PORTION OF THE PRESIDENT'S STATE OF THE UNION
PRESIDENT'S STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS.
ADDRESS. AND HOW NASA COULD AFFECT LOCAL
AND HOW NASA COULD AFFECT LOCAL PLANETARY SCIENTISTS.
PLANETARY SCIENTISTS. THEN MEET THE NEW MEXICAN
THEN MEET THE NEW MEXICAN COUNSEL IN TUCSON AND FIND OUT
COUNSEL IN TUCSON AND FIND OUT ABOUT HIS GOALS.
ABOUT HIS GOALS. FINALLY WE'LL ASK AN EXPERT TO
FINALLY WE'LL ASK AN EXPERT TO DISSECT THE STATE OF RELATIONS
DISSECT THE STATE OF RELATIONS BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND
BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND IRAN.
IRAN. BUT FIRST, A LOOK AT TODAY'S TOP
BUT FIRST, A LOOK AT TODAY'S TOP STORIES.
STORIES. >> PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA'S PRO
>> PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA'S PRO POSED INCREASES IN THE FEDERAL
POSED INCREASES IN THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE COULD HAVE AN
MINIMUM WAGE COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON ARIZONA BUSINESSES.
IMPACT ON ARIZONA BUSINESSES. IF CONGRESS APPROVES THE
IF CONGRESS APPROVES THE PRESIDENT'S CALL TO RAISE THE
PRESIDENT'S CALL TO RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE TO $10.10, THE
MINIMUM WAGE TO $10.10, THE STATE'S LOWEST PAID EMPLOYEES
STATE'S LOWEST PAID EMPLOYEES WOULD SEE A RAISE OF NEARLY 30%.
WOULD SEE A RAISE OF NEARLY 30%. THE STATE'S CURRENT MINIMUM WAGE
THE STATE'S CURRENT MINIMUM WAGE IS $7.90 AN HOUR.
IS $7.90 AN HOUR. FEDERAL MINIMUM IS $7.25.
FEDERAL MINIMUM IS $7.25. TUCSON'S HISPANIC CHAMBER OF
TUCSON'S HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, LIAM MARQUES PETERSON
COMMERCE, LIAM MARQUES PETERSON SAYS THE INCREASE MAY HAVE
SAYS THE INCREASE MAY HAVE NEGATIVE EFFECT ON LOCAL
NEGATIVE EFFECT ON LOCAL BUSINESSES.
BUSINESSES. THE PRESIDENT PLANS TO USE AN
THE PRESIDENT PLANS TO USE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER RAISING MINIMUM
EXECUTIVE ORDER RAISING MINIMUM WAGE FOR FUTURE FEDERAL
WAGE FOR FUTURE FEDERAL CONTRACTS.
CONTRACTS. IMDPRA
IMDPRA IMMIGRATION REFORM REMAINS ON
IMMIGRATION REFORM REMAINS ON PRESIDENT OBAMA'S AGENDA.
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S AGENDA. REFORM WILL BE IMPORTANT FOR THE
REFORM WILL BE IMPORTANT FOR THE NATION'S ECONOMIC RECOVERY.
NATION'S ECONOMIC RECOVERY. PEREZ SAYS MIGRANT WORKERS CAN
PEREZ SAYS MIGRANT WORKERS CAN BE A STRONGER PART OF THE SYSTEM
BE A STRONGER PART OF THE SYSTEM IF THE REFORM HELPS THEM EMERGE
IF THE REFORM HELPS THEM EMERGE FROM THE UNDERGROUND ECONOMY.
FROM THE UNDERGROUND ECONOMY. HE SAYS THE REENVISIONED FARM
HE SAYS THE REENVISIONED FARM WORKER PROGRAM WOULD MINIMIZE
WORKER PROGRAM WOULD MINIMIZE EX-PL
EX-PL EXPLOITATION.
EXPLOITATION. INDEPENDENTS ARE REGISTERING TO
INDEPENDENTS ARE REGISTERING TO VOTE IN ARIZONA IN GREATER
VOTE IN ARIZONA IN GREATER NUMBERSES TH THAN THOSE FOR EIT
NUMBERSES TH THAN THOSE FOR EIT POLITICAL PARTY.
POLITICAL PARTY. GAINING ON THE REPUBLICAN LEAD
GAINING ON THE REPUBLICAN LEAD IN VOTER TOTAL.
IN VOTER TOTAL. THE NUMBERS FROM, FROM JANUARY,
THE NUMBERS FROM, FROM JANUARY, FROM THE STATE'S SECRETARY OF
FROM THE STATE'S SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, THE STATE TOTALS
STATE'S OFFICE, THE STATE TOTALS 3.4 MILLION REGISTERED VOTERS.
3.4 MILLION REGISTERED VOTERS. THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE
THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE REPORTED OF THOSE, 34.9% ARE
REPORTED OF THOSE, 34.9% ARE REPUBLICANS.
REPUBLICANS. 34.6% HAVE NO PARTY AFFILIATION.
34.6% HAVE NO PARTY AFFILIATION. 29.7% ARE DEMOCRATS.
29.7% ARE DEMOCRATS. THAT ITS A LOOK AT TONIGHT'S
THAT ITS A LOOK AT TONIGHT'S HEADLINE.
HEADLINE. AND THAT'S A LOOK AT TONIGHT'S
AND THAT'S A LOOK AT TONIGHT'S HEADLINE.
HEADLINE. >> PRESIDENT OBAMA SPENT MUCH OF
>> PRESIDENT OBAMA SPENT MUCH OF LAST NIGHT'S STATE OF THE UNION
LAST NIGHT'S STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS ON ECONOMIC ISSUES.
ADDRESS ON ECONOMIC ISSUES. ONE OF THE WAYS PEOPLE CAN
ONE OF THE WAYS PEOPLE CAN IMPROVE THEIR ECONOMIC STABILITY
IMPROVE THEIR ECONOMIC STABILITY HE SAID IS TO HAVE HEALTH
HE SAID IS TO HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.
INSURANCE. JOINING ME IN THE STUDIO, TO
JOINING ME IN THE STUDIO, TO DISCUSS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN
DISCUSS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO TOPICS IS DR. JAMES
THE TWO TOPICS IS DR. JAMES STALIN, AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
STALIN, AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA COLLEGE OF MEDICINE.
ARIZONA COLLEGE OF MEDICINE. DOCTOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE
DOCTOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
TODAY. >> I THAT THEY WAS SIGNIFICANT
>> I THAT THEY WAS SIGNIFICANT LAST NIGHT, THE PRESIDENT USED
LAST NIGHT, THE PRESIDENT USED AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS SO GOOD
AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS SO GOOD ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, A
ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, A WOMAN FROM ARIZONA.
WOMAN FROM ARIZONA. WHO HAD RECENTLY GOTTEN
WHO HAD RECENTLY GOTTEN INSURANCE AFTER NOT QUALIFYING.
INSURANCE AFTER NOT QUALIFYING. AND, SUDDENLY NEEDED INSURANCE.
AND, SUDDENLY NEEDED INSURANCE. SURGERY.
SURGERY. AND, AND, FELT IT REALLY SAVED
AND, AND, FELT IT REALLY SAVED HER FROM BANKRUPT SEE.
HER FROM BANKRUPT SEE. IS IT SIGNIFICANT THAT HE USED
IS IT SIGNIFICANT THAT HE USED SOME ONE FROM ARIZONA AND, TALK
SOME ONE FROM ARIZONA AND, TALK TO US ABOUT THAT KIND OF NEED
TO US ABOUT THAT KIND OF NEED THAT SHE HAD IN THE STATE.
THAT SHE HAD IN THE STATE. A MILLION PEOPLE IN ARIZONA
A MILLION PEOPLE IN ARIZONA DON'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.
DON'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE. 50 MILLION IN THE COUNTRY.
50 MILLION IN THE COUNTRY. ONE OF THE COMMONEST REASONS IS
ONE OF THE COMMONEST REASONS IS HAVING A CHRONIC CONDITION OR
HAVING A CHRONIC CONDITION OR PRIOR CONDITION.
PRIOR CONDITION. WHICH CAN MEAN ANY KIND OF
WHICH CAN MEAN ANY KIND OF HEALTH PROBLEM.
HEALTH PROBLEM. BE TURNED DOWN FOR HEALTH
BE TURNED DOWN FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.
INSURANCE. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FEATURES, THE AFFORDABLE CARE
FEATURES, THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT NO LONGER POSSIBLE.
ACT NO LONGER POSSIBLE. AS OF JANUARY 1 OF THIS YEAR,
AS OF JANUARY 1 OF THIS YEAR, PEOPLE WITH PRIOR CONDITIONS,
PEOPLE WITH PRIOR CONDITIONS, CHRONIC CONDITIONS CANNOT BE
CHRONIC CONDITIONS CANNOT BE DENIED HEALTH CARE.
DENIED HEALTH CARE. SHE WAS VERY LUCKY.
SHE WAS VERY LUCKY. AS FAR AS, BACK ON ECONOMICS.
AS FAR AS, BACK ON ECONOMICS. TURNS OUT THAT HEALTH, HEALTH
TURNS OUT THAT HEALTH, HEALTH CARE EXPENSES ARE THE COMMONEST
CARE EXPENSES ARE THE COMMONEST CAUSE OF PERSONAL BANKRUPTCY.
CAUSE OF PERSONAL BANKRUPTCY. WE HAVE PEOPLE NOT SIGNING UP,
WE HAVE PEOPLE NOT SIGNING UP, WHO WOULD RATHER PAY THE FINE
WHO WOULD RATHER PAY THE FINE IMPOSED.
IMPOSED. THE PENALTY.
THE PENALTY. RATHER THAN SIGN UP FOR HEALTH
RATHER THAN SIGN UP FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.
INSURANCE. CAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT
CAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT ISSUE?
ISSUE? AND HOW YOU KNEELFEEL ABOUT THA?
AND HOW YOU KNEELFEEL ABOUT THA? >> PENALTY KNOW IT THAT BIG.
>> PENALTY KNOW IT THAT BIG. LESS THAN $1,000, $950.
LESS THAN $1,000, $950. SOME PEOPLE FEEL THEY'RE
SOME PEOPLE FEEL THEY'RE INVINCIBLE.
INVINCIBLE. THEY CAN'T GET SICK.
THEY CAN'T GET SICK. THEY'RE WRONG.
THEY'RE WRONG. YOU SHOULD COME TO THE HOSPITAL.
YOU SHOULD COME TO THE HOSPITAL. SEE WHO COMES INTO THE EMERGENCY
SEE WHO COMES INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
ROOM. MANY, MANY PEOPLE, PREVIOUSLY
MANY, MANY PEOPLE, PREVIOUSLY HEALTHY.
HEALTHY. COULD HAVE A HEART ATTACK.
COULD HAVE A HEART ATTACK. OR STROKE.
OR STROKE. OR COULD FRACTURE A HIP.
OR COULD FRACTURE A HIP. AND NOW THE HEALTH INSURANCE IS
AND NOW THE HEALTH INSURANCE IS AVAILABLE.
AVAILABLE. TO EVERYBODY.
TO EVERYBODY. MORE REASONABLY PRICED.
MORE REASONABLY PRICED. IN MANY CASES, NOT ALL.
IN MANY CASES, NOT ALL. I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE
I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.
HEALTH INSURANCE. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE ISSUES RIGHT NOW WITH GETTING
ISSUES RIGHT NOW WITH GETTING MORE PEOPLE SIGNED UP?
MORE PEOPLE SIGNED UP? GETTING MORE PEOPLE TO REALLY
GETTING MORE PEOPLE TO REALLY BUY INTO THE WHOLE AFFORDABLE
BUY INTO THE WHOLE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
CARE ACT. AND WHAT IT HAS TTO OFFER?
AND WHAT IT HAS TTO OFFER? >> ESSENTIAL TO GET MORE PEOPLE
>> ESSENTIAL TO GET MORE PEOPLE IN.
IN. YOUNG PEOPLE.
YOUNG PEOPLE. HEALTHY PEOPLE.
HEALTHY PEOPLE. HELP SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE
HELP SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE OLDER.
OLDER. PEOPLE WHO HAVE ILLNESSES.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE ILLNESSES. THE WAY INSURANCE WORKS.
THE WAY INSURANCE WORKS. ONE ILLS T
ONE ILLS T ONE IS, THE ROLLOUT WAS VERY,
ONE IS, THE ROLLOUT WAS VERY, VERY POOR.
VERY POOR. FOUR YEARS TO GET READY TO
FOUR YEARS TO GET READY TO ENROLL ALL THE PEOPLE.
ENROLL ALL THE PEOPLE. THEY WEREN'T READY.
THEY WEREN'T READY. THAT, THAT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN
THAT, THAT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN STRAIGHTENED OUT IN JANUARY.
STRAIGHTENED OUT IN JANUARY. OF THIS YEAR.
OF THIS YEAR. THERE IS ONE REASON.
THERE IS ONE REASON. SECOND.
SECOND. THEY HAVE NOT PUB LI SIZED THE,
THEY HAVE NOT PUB LI SIZED THE, THE BEN FITS OF, OF THE
THE BEN FITS OF, OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, UNTIL
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, UNTIL RECENTLY.
RECENTLY. ALL I HAVE HEARD ON TV.
ALL I HAVE HEARD ON TV. PARTICULARLY CABLE TV IS ALL THE
PARTICULARLY CABLE TV IS ALL THE THINGS WRING WI S WRONG WITH ATE
THINGS WRING WI S WRONG WITH ATE CARE ACT.
CARE ACT. >> IF YOU WERE CALLED IN TO THE
>> IF YOU WERE CALLED IN TO THE OVAL OFFICE TO SAY.
OVAL OFFICE TO SAY. HERE, DOCTOR, TELL US SOME
HERE, DOCTOR, TELL US SOME THINGS YOU WOULD DO TO REALLY
THINGS YOU WOULD DO TO REALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR THIS PROGRAM.
THIS PROGRAM. AND HELP THEM UNDERSTAND HOW
AND HELP THEM UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR THEMSELVES
IMPORTANT IT IS FOR THEMSELVES TODAY AND THE LONG FUTURE AND
TODAY AND THE LONG FUTURE AND BETTER OF THE COUNTRY WHAT WOULD
BETTER OF THE COUNTRY WHAT WOULD YOU TELL THEM?
YOU TELL THEM? >> TELL THEM MORE PUBLIC
>> TELL THEM MORE PUBLIC RELATIONS.
RELATIONS. MORE TV SPOTS.
MORE TV SPOTS. MORE BROCHURES.
MORE BROCHURES. MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. KEEP DOING IT.
KEEP DOING IT. DOING IT BETTER.
DOING IT BETTER. ALL PEOPLE HEARD ON THE OTHER
ALL PEOPLE HEARD ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SIDE. FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
FROM THE OTHER SIDE. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE AFFORDABLE
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
CARE ACT. WE NEED TO KNOW WHO IS FOR IT.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHO IS FOR IT. >> ARE THERE SOME THINGS YOU ARE
>> ARE THERE SOME THINGS YOU ARE SEEING AT THIS POINT?
SEEING AT THIS POINT? THAT YOU SAY, THEY REALLY DO
THAT YOU SAY, THEY REALLY DO NEED TO BE FIXED.
NEED TO BE FIXED. THE PRESIDENT EVEN CALLED ON
THE PRESIDENT EVEN CALLED ON REPUBLICAN LAST NIGHT TO STAY
REPUBLICAN LAST NIGHT TO STAY STAND UP AND TELL US WHAT YOU
STAND UP AND TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO FIX.
WANT TO FIX. LET'S TRY TO NEGOTIATE IT.
LET'S TRY TO NEGOTIATE IT. YOU HAVE SOME IDEA FROM WHAT
YOU HAVE SOME IDEA FROM WHAT YOU'VE HAVE SEEN SO FAR?
YOU'VE HAVE SEEN SO FAR? >> ALL LEGISLATION IS
>> ALL LEGISLATION IS COMPLICATED.
COMPLICATED. THIS IS VERY, VERY COMPLICATED.
THIS IS VERY, VERY COMPLICATED. INSTEAD OF SAYING SHOULD WE
INSTEAD OF SAYING SHOULD WE REPEAL.
REPEAL. LET'S LOOK AND SAY WHAT THINGS
LET'S LOOK AND SAY WHAT THINGS WE WOULD DO DIFFERENTLY.
WE WOULD DO DIFFERENTLY. >> AND, MEDICARE AND MEDICAID
>> AND, MEDICARE AND MEDICAID ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS.
ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS. MANY MR. PEOPLE AORE PEOPLE ARE.
MANY MR. PEOPLE AORE PEOPLE ARE. IT HAS BEEN EXPANDED IN ARIZONA.
IT HAS BEEN EXPANDED IN ARIZONA. YOU MENTIONED LAST NIGHT THAT,
YOU MENTIONED LAST NIGHT THAT, HE THOUGHT IT WAS EXPANDING
HE THOUGHT IT WAS EXPANDING REALLY THE SOLVENCY OF MEDICARE.
REALLY THE SOLVENCY OF MEDICARE. CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THAT?
CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THAT? >> I WASN'T SURE WHAT HE MEANT.
>> I WASN'T SURE WHAT HE MEANT. IN TERMS OF THE MEDICAID.
IN TERMS OF THE MEDICAID. MEDICARE.
MEDICARE. IT IS STABLE.
IT IS STABLE. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM ON
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM ON THAT.
THAT. THE REAL PROBLEM IS WITH
THE REAL PROBLEM IS WITH MEDICAID.
MEDICAID. EACH STATE DETERMINES WHO IS
EACH STATE DETERMINES WHO IS ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAID UP UNTIL
ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAID UP UNTIL NOW.
NOW. AND -- THE INTENT OF THE ACT WAS
AND -- THE INTENT OF THE ACT WAS TO MAKE EVERYBODY WHOSE INCOME,
TO MAKE EVERYBODY WHOSE INCOME, FAMILY INCOME IS LESS THAN 133%
FAMILY INCOME IS LESS THAN 133% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL TO
OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAID.
BE ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAID. THAT WOULD IN FACT ADD A
THAT WOULD IN FACT ADD A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO
TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO INSURANCE.
INSURANCE. REMEMBER, THE SUPREME COURT SAID
REMEMBER, THE SUPREME COURT SAID YOU CHANCE FORCE STATES TO DO
YOU CHANCE FORCE STATES TO DO THAT.
THAT. SO THE STATES MAY MAKE THAT
SO THE STATES MAY MAKE THAT DECISION ON THEIR OWN.
DECISION ON THEIR OWN. ABOUT HALF THE STATES AGREE TO
ABOUT HALF THE STATES AGREE TO EXPAND MEDICAID.
EXPAND MEDICAID. WHICH IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE PLAN
WHICH IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE PLAN TO WORK.
TO WORK. FORTUNATELY, WE'RE IN THAT
FORTUNATELY, WE'RE IN THAT CATEGORY.
CATEGORY. ONE OF THE REASONS WAS, PEOPLE
ONE OF THE REASONS WAS, PEOPLE IN ARIZONA, PARTICULARLY, A
IN ARIZONA, PARTICULARLY, A BUSINESSMAN, THEY WERE VERY
BUSINESSMAN, THEY WERE VERY GOOD.
GOOD. THEY IN FACT PUSHED VERY HARD TO
THEY IN FACT PUSHED VERY HARD TO MAKE, TO, TO CONVINCE THE
MAKE, TO, TO CONVINCE THE GOVERNOR, TO, TO MAKE MEDICAID
GOVERNOR, TO, TO MAKE MEDICAID MORE AVAILABLE.
MORE AVAILABLE. >> DOCTOR, THANK YOU FOR JOINING
>> DOCTOR, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.
US TODAY. >> NASA IS CHANGING THE WAY ITS
>> NASA IS CHANGING THE WAY ITS FUND SOME PLANETARY SCIENCE
FUND SOME PLANETARY SCIENCE RESEARCH.
RESEARCH. THAT COULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT
THAT COULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON SCIENTISTS WORKING IN
EFFECT ON SCIENTISTS WORKING IN TUCSON.
TUCSON. ANDREA KELLY REPORTS.
ANDREA KELLY REPORTS. TUCSON IS A HUB FOR PLANETARY
TUCSON IS A HUB FOR PLANETARY SCIENCE.
SCIENCE. DOCTORAL STUDENTS STUDY AT THE
DOCTORAL STUDENTS STUDY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA AND
UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA AND PROFESSIONALS WORK ON CAMPUS AND
PROFESSIONALS WORK ON CAMPUS AND OFF AT NONPROFIT COMPANIES SUCH
OFF AT NONPROFIT COMPANIES SUCH AS THE PLANETARY SCIENCE
AS THE PLANETARY SCIENCE INSTITUTE.
INSTITUTE. BIG PROJECTS INCLUDING THE
BIG PROJECTS INCLUDING THE MARS/PHOENIX LANDER HAVE
MARS/PHOENIX LANDER HAVE ATTRACTED INTERNATIONAL
ATTRACTED INTERNATIONAL ATTENTION TO TUCSON RESEARCHERS.
ATTENTION TO TUCSON RESEARCHERS. SO WHEN NASA ANNOUNCED IT WILL
SO WHEN NASA ANNOUNCED IT WILL CHANGE THE WAY IT FUND PLANETARY
CHANGE THE WAY IT FUND PLANETARY SCIENCE RESEARCH, IT GOT LOCAL
SCIENCE RESEARCH, IT GOT LOCAL REACTION.
REACTION. NASA ITS REDUCING THE NUMBER OF
NASA ITS REDUCING THE NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES PLANETARY
OPPORTUNITIES PLANETARY SCIENTISTS HAVE EACH YEAR TO
SCIENTISTS HAVE EACH YEAR TO APPLY FOR GRANTS TO FUND THEIR
APPLY FOR GRANTS TO FUND THEIR RESEARCH.
RESEARCH. DESPITE THAT, NASA'S JIM GREEN
DESPITE THAT, NASA'S JIM GREEN SAYS THE A JANCE GENCY IS OFFERE
SAYS THE A JANCE GENCY IS OFFERE MONEY.
MONEY. ALL PROGRAMS FUNDED WILL BE
ALL PROGRAMS FUNDED WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING IN THE NEW
ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING IN THE NEW GRANT STRUCTURE.
GRANT STRUCTURE. GREEN IS DIRECTOR OF THE NASA
GREEN IS DIRECTOR OF THE NASA PLANETARY SCIENCE DIVISION IN
PLANETARY SCIENCE DIVISION IN TUCSON TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON
TUCSON TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON SPACE SCIENCE.
SPACE SCIENCE. >> LOOKING FOR CONSOLIDATING
>> LOOKING FOR CONSOLIDATING SEVERAL GROUPS.
SEVERAL GROUPS. AND INSTEAD OF HAVING -- 24
AND INSTEAD OF HAVING -- 24 CALLS, WE'RE HAVING, 17 OR 18
CALLS, WE'RE HAVING, 17 OR 18 CALLS FOR PROPOSALS.
CALLS FOR PROPOSALS. THAT ARE MORE FOCUSED BUT
THAT ARE MORE FOCUSED BUT ENCOMPASS THE SCOPE OF THE
ENCOMPASS THE SCOPE OF THE PROGRAM.
PROGRAM. WE CALL THAT RESTRUCTURING.
WE CALL THAT RESTRUCTURING. >> ONE TUCSON PLANETARY
>> ONE TUCSON PLANETARY SCIENTIST SAYS HE WORRIES THE
SCIENTIST SAYS HE WORRIES THE NASA RESTRUCTURING WON'T WORK.
NASA RESTRUCTURING WON'T WORK. >> THESE RESEARCH PROGRAMS ARE
>> THESE RESEARCH PROGRAMS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE --
IMPORTANT BECAUSE -- ALMOST HALF OF THE PLANETARY
ALMOST HALF OF THE PLANETARY SCIENCE PROFESSION IN THE
SCIENCE PROFESSION IN THE COUNTRY RELY ON THEM FOR MORE
COUNTRY RELY ON THEM FOR MORE THAN HALF OF THEIR SALARY.
THAN HALF OF THEIR SALARY. THEY'RE NOT EMBEDDED IN, DEEPLY
THEY'RE NOT EMBEDDED IN, DEEPLY EMBEDDED IN UNIVERSITIES AND
EMBEDDED IN UNIVERSITIES AND SUCH AROUND THE COUNTRY LOOK
SUCH AROUND THE COUNTRY LOOK ASTRONOMERS ARE.
ASTRONOMERS ARE. PLANETARY SCIENCE, MODERN
PLANETARY SCIENCE, MODERN PLANETARY SCIENCE IS AN
PLANETARY SCIENCE IS AN INVENTION OF NASA.
INVENTION OF NASA. YOU KNOW, ONLY, BACK IN THE 60s.
YOU KNOW, ONLY, BACK IN THE 60s. START SENDING SPACECRAFT TO
START SENDING SPACECRAFT TO OTHER PLANETS AND WORLD FOR THE
OTHER PLANETS AND WORLD FOR THE FIRST TIME.
FIRST TIME. THIS START CREEDATING THE WHOLE
THIS START CREEDATING THE WHOLE NEW FIELD.
NEW FIELD. >> MAJOR NASA EFFORT.
>> MAJOR NASA EFFORT. >> WHEN NASA STARTED GIVING
>> WHEN NASA STARTED GIVING GRANTS TO PLANETARY SCIENTISTS
GRANTS TO PLANETARY SCIENTISTS TO STUDY OUR SOLAR SYSTEM AND
TO STUDY OUR SOLAR SYSTEM AND OTHER SOLAR SYSTEMS.
OTHER SOLAR SYSTEMS. THE WORK RANGES FROM PROPOSALS
THE WORK RANGES FROM PROPOSALS TO FIND OUT WHAT IS IN SPACE TO
TO FIND OUT WHAT IS IN SPACE TO THE HAZARDS OF TRYING TO SEND A
THE HAZARDS OF TRYING TO SEND A SPACECRAFT TO STUDY AN OBJECT.
SPACECRAFT TO STUDY AN OBJECT. >> THE PLANETARY SCIENCE
>> THE PLANETARY SCIENCE DIVISION WHICH DATES BACK TO THE
DIVISION WHICH DATES BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE SPACE PROGRAM,
BEGINNING OF THE SPACE PROGRAM, IN THE 60s, IN PARTICULAR, BEGAN
IN THE 60s, IN PARTICULAR, BEGAN SUPPORTING THE RESEARCH
SUPPORTING THE RESEARCH COMMUNITY PROVIDING
COMMUNITY PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES TO PROPOSE,
OPPORTUNITIES TO PROPOSE, ANALYZE DATA AND REPORT BACK THE
ANALYZE DATA AND REPORT BACK THE RESULTS.
RESULTS. THAT IS A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF
THAT IS A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF OUR PROGRAM THAT HAS THE STARTED
OUR PROGRAM THAT HAS THE STARTED FROM DAY ONE.
FROM DAY ONE. AND THIS PART OF OUR PROGRAM IS
AND THIS PART OF OUR PROGRAM IS CALLED THE RESEARCH AND AN
CALLED THE RESEARCH AND AN ANALYSIS.
ANALYSIS. >> PLANETARY SCIENTISTS HAVE
>> PLANETARY SCIENTISTS HAVE BENEFITED FROM THAT FOR YEARS.
BENEFITED FROM THAT FOR YEARS. PSYCHS EMPLOYS, 85 PLANETARY
PSYCHS EMPLOYS, 85 PLANETARY SCIENCE Ph.D.s AND SAYS THERE
SCIENCE Ph.D.s AND SAYS THERE ARE 2,000 PLANETARY SCIENTISTS
ARE 2,000 PLANETARY SCIENTISTS IN THE WORLD WHO DO WORK THAT
IN THE WORLD WHO DO WORK THAT COULD BE AFFECTED BY THE
COULD BE AFFECTED BY THE CHANGES.
CHANGES. >> WHAT NASA IS DOING.
>> WHAT NASA IS DOING. THEY'RE TAKING THE RESEARCH
THEY'RE TAKING THE RESEARCH PROGRAMS.
PROGRAMS. WHIFF HAVE BEEN
WHIFF HAVE BEEN WHICH HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MANY
WHICH HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS.
YEARS. DEVOTED TO PLANET GEOPHYSICS.
DEVOTED TO PLANET GEOPHYSICS. FUNDAMENTAL RESEARCH ON MARS.
FUNDAMENTAL RESEARCH ON MARS. OUTER PLANETS.
OUTER PLANETS. AND, THEIR ATMOSPHERES AND
AND, THEIR ATMOSPHERES AND STRUCTURES.
STRUCTURES. COSMO-CHEMISTRIES.
COSMO-CHEMISTRIES. MEDIA RIGHT STUDIES.
MEDIA RIGHT STUDIES. THEY HAVE MERGED ALTOGETHER.
THEY HAVE MERGED ALTOGETHER. SOME IN ONE LARGE PROGRAM.
SOME IN ONE LARGE PROGRAM. >> THE WAY THE PROGRAMS ARE
>> THE WAY THE PROGRAMS ARE BROKEN UP.
BROKEN UP. SOME ATMOSPHERIC RESEARCH MAY
SOME ATMOSPHERIC RESEARCH MAY NOW BE GROUPED WITH SOME
NOW BE GROUPED WITH SOME METEORITE RESEARCH AND MARS
METEORITE RESEARCH AND MARS RESEARCH.
RESEARCH. HE SAYS THE GROUPINGS OF TOPICS
HE SAYS THE GROUPINGS OF TOPICS DO NOT MAKE AS MUCH SENSE AS
DO NOT MAKE AS MUCH SENSE AS THEY USED TO.
THEY USED TO. HE WORRIES SOME IMPORTANT AREAS
HE WORRIES SOME IMPORTANT AREAS OF STUDY WILL FALL OFF THE
OF STUDY WILL FALL OFF THE RADAR.
RADAR. HE SAYS THE CHANGES ARE NOT
HE SAYS THE CHANGES ARE NOT JUSTIFIED.
JUSTIFIED. >> IF BY DOING IT THIS WAY.
>> IF BY DOING IT THIS WAY. CUT THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS
CUT THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS IN HALF.
IN HALF. AND, AND, HAVE BUN.
AND, AND, HAVE BUN. OF OTHER BENEFITS THAT CAN BE
OF OTHER BENEFITS THAT CAN BE DEMONSTRATED.
DEMONSTRATED. OKAY, THAT WOULD BE GOOD REASON
OKAY, THAT WOULD BE GOOD REASON FOR JUST GOING DOWN THE PATH.
FOR JUST GOING DOWN THE PATH. IT HAS THEN'T BEEN DEMONSTRATED.
IT HAS THEN'T BEEN DEMONSTRATED. IN ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS.
IN ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS. I WAS CO-AUTHOR.
I WAS CO-AUTHOR. WE SAY THAT IN THE EVENT THAT
WE SAY THAT IN THE EVENT THAT YOU WANT TO CONSOLIDATE
YOU WANT TO CONSOLIDATE PROGRAMS, YOU WANT TO DO DO A
PROGRAMS, YOU WANT TO DO DO A REORGANIZATION, SUBJECT IT TO A
REORGANIZATION, SUBJECT IT TO A SENIOR REVIEW.
SENIOR REVIEW. FORMAL REVIEW PROCESS.
FORMAL REVIEW PROCESS. LAY EVERYTHING OUT.
LAY EVERYTHING OUT. DEMONSTRATE IT IS REVENUE
DEMONSTRATE IT IS REVENUE NEUTRAL.
NEUTRAL. NOT JUST USING IT, CUT MONEY OUT
NOT JUST USING IT, CUT MONEY OUT OF THE PROGRAMS.
OF THE PROGRAMS. DO WORK FORCE IMPACT ASSESSMENT.
DO WORK FORCE IMPACT ASSESSMENT. TO, TO, UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW,
TO, TO, UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF
BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF STABILITY.
STABILITY. THE PROGRAMS AND THE EFFECT ON
THE PROGRAMS AND THE EFFECT ON THE PLANETARY COMMUNITIES THAT,
THE PLANETARY COMMUNITIES THAT, THAT YOU ARE DOING THIS IN A WAY
THAT YOU ARE DOING THIS IN A WAY THAT IS NOT GOING TO CAUSE ANY
THAT IS NOT GOING TO CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS.
PROBLEMS. AND THAT YOU ARE GOING TO
AND THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE SKILL SETS THAT YOU
MAINTAIN THE SKILL SETS THAT YOU NEED TO ADVANCE THESE, THESE
NEED TO ADVANCE THESE, THESE GOALS.
GOALS. >> GREEN SAYS NOTHING IS BEING
>> GREEN SAYS NOTHING IS BEING ELIMINATED.
ELIMINATED. THE PROCESS IS NOT HAPHAZARD.
THE PROCESS IS NOT HAPHAZARD. IN FACT HE SAYS IT IS MINT EANT
IN FACT HE SAYS IT IS MINT EANT MAKE SURE NO PROGRAMS ARE
MAKE SURE NO PROGRAMS ARE DROPPED.
DROPPED. >> RESTRUCTURING, NOT ELIMINATE
>> RESTRUCTURING, NOT ELIMINATE ANYTHING.
ANYTHING. THAT INDEED IS A CONCERN.
THAT INDEED IS A CONCERN. WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE
WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE VIGILANT AND WATCH OVER OUR
VIGILANT AND WATCH OVER OUR SHOULDERS, WHILE WE DO THAT.
SHOULDERS, WHILE WE DO THAT. BECAUSE IF WE, IF THEY CAN POINT
BECAUSE IF WE, IF THEY CAN POINT OUT SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T, THAT
OUT SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T, THAT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT, OR WASN'T
DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT, OR WASN'T DESCRIBED RIGHT, WHEN TRANSLATED
DESCRIBED RIGHT, WHEN TRANSLATED IT FROM ONE OPPORTUNITY INTO
IT FROM ONE OPPORTUNITY INTO THE, INTO THE AGGREGATE
THE, INTO THE AGGREGATE OPPORTUNITY, WE'LL FIX IT.
OPPORTUNITY, WE'LL FIX IT. THERE IS NEVER ANY INTENT TO
THERE IS NEVER ANY INTENT TO DROP ANYTHING OUT OF OUR
DROP ANYTHING OUT OF OUR PROGRAM.
PROGRAM. THAT'S WHY WE TALKED TO ALL OF
THAT'S WHY WE TALKED TO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES, THROUGH OUR
OUR COMMUNITIES, THROUGH OUR ASSESSMENT GROUPS, BUT WE ALSO
ASSESSMENT GROUPS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, ADVISORY GROUPS.
HAVE, ADVISORY GROUPS. >> THIS IS WHY U.S. FUNDAMENTAL
>> THIS IS WHY U.S. FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES TO -- TO SUCH IMPORTANT
CHANGES TO -- TO SUCH IMPORTANT PROGRAMS ARE -- HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
PROGRAMS ARE -- HAVE ALWAYS BEEN OF REAL CONCERN TO THE NATIONAL
OF REAL CONCERN TO THE NATIONAL ACADEMY, TO THE COMMUNITY IN
ACADEMY, TO THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, AND, AND -- AND TO SLAP
GENERAL, AND, AND -- AND TO SLAP SOMETHING TOGETHER OVER THE LAST
SOMETHING TOGETHER OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
FEW MONTHS. AND THEY'RE STILL FIGURING OUT
AND THEY'RE STILL FIGURING OUT HOW IT WILL WORK.
HOW IT WILL WORK. AND, AND -- THAT, HERE IN
AND, AND -- THAT, HERE IN TUCSON, OUR PLANET ASSESSMENT
TUCSON, OUR PLANET ASSESSMENT GROUP MEETING, LAST WEEK, JIM IS
GROUP MEETING, LAST WEEK, JIM IS SAYING, LET'S ROLL IT OUT.
SAYING, LET'S ROLL IT OUT. AND YOU GIVE US, GIVE US
AND YOU GIVE US, GIVE US FEEDBACK, AS IT IS GOING ON.
FEEDBACK, AS IT IS GOING ON. LET'S LAUNCH THE SPACECRAFT.
LET'S LAUNCH THE SPACECRAFT. WE CAN PICK IT UP WITH A
WE CAN PICK IT UP WITH A SOFTWARE CHANGE.
SOFTWARE CHANGE. WHAT IF THE THRUSTER IS NOT
WHAT IF THE THRUSTER IS NOT WORKING, THEN WHAT?
WORKING, THEN WHAT? IT GOES INTO THE DRINK.
IT GOES INTO THE DRINK. >> GREEN SAYS FULL REVIEWS ARE
>> GREEN SAYS FULL REVIEWS ARE BUILT IN.
BUILT IN. >> WE ARE TRYING TO BRING THE
>> WE ARE TRYING TO BRING THE DISCIPLINES OF OUR FIELD
DISCIPLINES OF OUR FIELD TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. SO, THE PLANETARY SCIENCE
SO, THE PLANETARY SCIENCE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL REVIEW THE
SUBCOMMITTEE WILL REVIEW THE LANGUAGE.
LANGUAGE. AND, AND, GIVE US
AND, AND, GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS.
RECOMMENDATIONS. AND POINT OUT, PLACES WHERE --
AND POINT OUT, PLACES WHERE -- WHERE WE NEED TO UPDATE THAT.
WHERE WE NEED TO UPDATE THAT. AND THEN WE'LL UPDATE IT AND
AND THEN WE'LL UPDATE IT AND THEN WE WILL ISSUE THE FINAL
THEN WE WILL ISSUE THE FINAL CALLS.
CALLS. BUT THEN WE ARE NOT DONE WITH
BUT THEN WE ARE NOT DONE WITH THE REVIEW EITHER.
THE REVIEW EITHER. SO THEN THE COMMUNITY WILL WRITE
SO THEN THE COMMUNITY WILL WRITE THE PROPOSALS, SEND THEM IN.
THE PROPOSALS, SEND THEM IN. WE WILL GO THROUGH THE REVIEWS.
WE WILL GO THROUGH THE REVIEWS. AND THEN, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO
AND THEN, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN THIS AREA IS, PEER REVIEWED.
IN THIS AREA IS, PEER REVIEWED. SO AFTER THOSE PROPOSALS THEN
SO AFTER THOSE PROPOSALS THEN ARE -- EVALUATED AND WEEP GET
ARE -- EVALUATED AND WEEP GET WRE
WRE -- AND WE GET RECOMMENDATIONS
-- AND WE GET RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PROPOSAL COMMITTEE.
FROM THE PROPOSAL COMMITTEE. BEFORE WE SAY GO HOME.
BEFORE WE SAY GO HOME. WE WILL SAY HOW WELL DID THIS
WE WILL SAY HOW WELL DID THIS WORK?
WORK? DID WE COVER ALL THE BASES?
DID WE COVER ALL THE BASES? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE EXPECTED TO GET IN THIS CALL FOR
EXPECTED TO GET IN THIS CALL FOR PROPOSALS, WE DIDN'T GET.
PROPOSALS, WE DIDN'T GET. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ADD IT.
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ADD IT. WE WEREN'T SUCCINCT ENOUGH.
WE WEREN'T SUCCINCT ENOUGH. WE NEED TO M PROIMPROVE THE LAN.
WE NEED TO M PROIMPROVE THE LAN. PSYCHS WANTS NASA TO DELAY THE
PSYCHS WANTS NASA TO DELAY THE PLAN THAT.
PLAN THAT. WOULD GIVE NASA TIME TO MAKE
WOULD GIVE NASA TIME TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS BEFORE IT SEEKS
MODIFICATIONS BEFORE IT SEEKS APPLICATIONS FOR GRANT FUNDING.
APPLICATIONS FOR GRANT FUNDING. >> THE OTHER THING, THEY SHOULD
>> THE OTHER THING, THEY SHOULD DELAY THE WHOLE
DELAY THE WHOLE LEAST A YEAR.
LEAST A YEAR. RETHINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
RETHINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING. DON'T THINK IT MAKE ANY SENSE.
DON'T THINK IT MAKE ANY SENSE. THEY HAVEN'T DEMONSTRATED ANY
THEY HAVEN'T DEMONSTRATED ANY BENEFIT OTHER THAN THEY CAN
BENEFIT OTHER THAN THEY CAN BETTER EXPLAIN HOW IT RELATES TO
BETTER EXPLAIN HOW IT RELATES TO STRATEGIC GOALS OF THE PLANETARY
STRATEGIC GOALS OF THE PLANETARY DI VE
DI VE DIVISION TO PEOPLE.
DIVISION TO PEOPLE. >> THERE MUST BE A TIME WHEN THE
>> THERE MUST BE A TIME WHEN THE COUNTDOWN HITS ZERO AND A NEW
COUNTDOWN HITS ZERO AND A NEW PROGRAM BEGINS.
PROGRAM BEGINS. >> THE IF WE DELAY A YEAR, WHY
>> THE IF WE DELAY A YEAR, WHY DON'T WE DELAY IT TWO YEAR.
DON'T WE DELAY IT TWO YEAR. WHY DON'T WE JUST NOT DO IT.
WHY DON'T WE JUST NOT DO IT. WE ARE TRYING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE
WE ARE TRYING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR OUR PROGRAM.
FOR OUR PROGRAM. WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE TO
WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE TO CONGRESS AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC
CONGRESS AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AND THE PEOPLE, THE THINGS THAT
AND THE PEOPLE, THE THINGS THAT WE DO -- AND THOSE THINGS ARE
WE DO -- AND THOSE THINGS ARE OUR TOP LEVEL GOALS AND
OUR TOP LEVEL GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
OBJECTIVES. TUCSON IS ONE OF 50 CITIES IN
TUCSON IS ONE OF 50 CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES WITH A MEXICAN
THE UNITED STATES WITH A MEXICAN CONSULATE OFFICE.
CONSULATE OFFICE. THEY SERVE MEXICAN CITIZENS AND
THEY SERVE MEXICAN CITIZENS AND HELP WITH GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR
HELP WITH GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR PEOPLE IN BOTH COUNTRIES.
PEOPLE IN BOTH COUNTRIES. A NEW CONSUL STARTED IN TUCSON
A NEW CONSUL STARTED IN TUCSON IN THE LAST YEAR.
IN THE LAST YEAR. RICARDO PINETTA JOINS US IN THE
RICARDO PINETTA JOINS US IN THE STUDIO AND TO DISCUSS HIS PLANS
STUDIO AND TO DISCUSS HIS PLANS IN THE POSITION AND THE MEXICAN
IN THE POSITION AND THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT INTERNATIONAL
GOVERNMENT INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS GOALS FOR 2014.
RELATIONS GOALS FOR 2014. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.
TODAY. >> I WOULD LOOK TO HAIKE TO HAV
>> I WOULD LOOK TO HAIKE TO HAV START BY EXPLANING WHAT THE MIX
START BY EXPLANING WHAT THE MIX CAN CONSUL DOES AN WHAT YOUR JOB
CAN CONSUL DOES AN WHAT YOUR JOB IS?
IS? >> MEXICAN CONSUL IS AN
>> MEXICAN CONSUL IS AN INTERNATIONAL ENTITY.
INTERNATIONAL ENTITY. WE ARE HERE TO PROVIDE SERVICE,
WE ARE HERE TO PROVIDE SERVICE, AND TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE TO
AND TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE TO THE MEXICAN AND AMERICAN
THE MEXICAN AND AMERICAN COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. WE ARE WORKING FOR THEM.
WE ARE WORKING FOR THEM. WE WORK FOR THEM.
WE WORK FOR THEM. WE FOSTER BUSINESS.
WE FOSTER BUSINESS. WE PROVIDE INFORMATION TO
WE PROVIDE INFORMATION TO EVERYONE.
EVERYONE. THAT WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT MEXICO
THAT WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT MEXICO BETTER.
BETTER. >> YOU AND I WERE TALKING
>> YOU AND I WERE TALKING EARLIER.
EARLIER. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TOLD ME
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TOLD ME THAT THE SERVICES YOU PROVIDE
THAT THE SERVICES YOU PROVIDE IS -- HELP WITH MIGRATION FORMS.
IS -- HELP WITH MIGRATION FORMS. AND MIGRATION AND IMMIGRATION
AND MIGRATION AND IMMIGRATION POLICY.
POLICY. >> WE HAVE MORE THAN 50
>> WE HAVE MORE THAN 50 DIFFERENT SERVICES TO THE
DIFFERENT SERVICES TO THE MEXICAN COMMUNITY.
MEXICAN COMMUNITY. HERE IN ARIZONA NOW.
HERE IN ARIZONA NOW. >> CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT?
>> CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT? >> SO WE ARE, FOLLOWING THE
>> SO WE ARE, FOLLOWING THE PROCESS, INFORMING THE MEXICAN
PROCESS, INFORMING THE MEXICAN COMMUNITY, LETTING THEM KNOW
COMMUNITY, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT, WHAT IS HAPPENING.
THAT, WHAT IS HAPPENING. WHAT IS GOING ON.
WHAT IS GOING ON. THE DIFFERENT TERMS OF THE
THE DIFFERENT TERMS OF THE CONSUL.
CONSUL. TO MAKE THEM AWARE, NOT, NOT
TO MAKE THEM AWARE, NOT, NOT HAPPEN ANYTHING.
HAPPEN ANYTHING. BUT, AT THE VERY SAME TIME, AS A
BUT, AT THE VERY SAME TIME, AS A GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. WE TOTALLY RESPECT THAT, AND IN
WE TOTALLY RESPECT THAT, AND IN THE PROCESS.
THE PROCESS. AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE WAYS THAT
AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE WAYS THAT IS GOING TO PASS IN THE COMING
IS GOING TO PASS IN THE COMING FUTURE.
FUTURE. TO NOTICE THE CONTRIBUTION OF
TO NOTICE THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE MEXICAN COMMUNITY.
THE MEXICAN COMMUNITY. >> MEMBERS OF THE SONORAN
>> MEMBERS OF THE SONORAN CONGRESS WERE IN TUCSON TO
CONGRESS WERE IN TUCSON TO DISCUSS, ECONOMIC COOPERATION
DISCUSS, ECONOMIC COOPERATION BETWEEN TUCSON AND SONORA, YOUR
BETWEEN TUCSON AND SONORA, YOUR OFFICE IS WORKING ON THE
OFFICE IS WORKING ON THE EFFORTS.
EFFORTS. COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT?
COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT? HE AND THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM
HE AND THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE, FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE
THE, FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE, FROM THE ECONOMY, FROM
FROM THE, FROM THE ECONOMY, FROM MEXICO, CAME OVER HERE.
MEXICO, CAME OVER HERE. HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MAYOR ROTHCHILD.
MAYOR ROTHCHILD. AND EVERYTHING GOES TO, TO DO
AND EVERYTHING GOES TO, TO DO WITH WAYS AND MEANS TO FOSTER
WITH WAYS AND MEANS TO FOSTER TRADE AND VERY IMPORTANT
TRADE AND VERY IMPORTANT RELATIONS.
RELATIONS. COMMERCIAL RELATIONS IN BETWEEN
COMMERCIAL RELATIONS IN BETWEEN SONORA AND TUCSON AS A WHOLE.
SONORA AND TUCSON AS A WHOLE. SO, A LOT OF, ABOUT WHAT IS
SO, A LOT OF, ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON.
GOING ON. AND, THE ECONOMIES.
AND, THE ECONOMIES. YOU PROBABLY KNOW.
YOU PROBABLY KNOW. NOT AWARE OF THAT.
NOT AWARE OF THAT. IN BETWEEN, REALLY, IMPORTANT.
IN BETWEEN, REALLY, IMPORTANT. AND IT IS GROWING.
AND IT IS GROWING. MORE BUSINESS IN BETWEEN.
MORE BUSINESS IN BETWEEN. TUCSON AND ARIZONA -- ACTUALLY,
TUCSON AND ARIZONA -- ACTUALLY, TUCSON AND MEXICO, TUCSON AND
TUCSON AND MEXICO, TUCSON AND SONORA.
SONORA. >> WHAT ARE THE ONGOING
>> WHAT ARE THE ONGOING CHALLENGES WITH FOSTERING TRADE
CHALLENGES WITH FOSTERING TRADE BETWEEN THE TWO STATES.
BETWEEN THE TWO STATES. >> WHAT BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER.
>> WHAT BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER. TO BE ABLE TO CREATE SYNERGIES,
TO BE ABLE TO CREATE SYNERGIES, NEW OPPORTUNITIES, AND IN
NEW OPPORTUNITIES, AND IN MEXICO, AND MEXICAN BUSINESS.
MEXICO, AND MEXICAN BUSINESS. ARIZONA AS A WHOLE NOW.
ARIZONA AS A WHOLE NOW. WE HAVE A GREAT TIME -- AN
WE HAVE A GREAT TIME -- AN OCCASION TO DO THIS.
OCCASION TO DO THIS. IN MEXICO -- THE PRESIDENT, THE
IN MEXICO -- THE PRESIDENT, THE ADMINISTRATION, TOOK POWER.
ADMINISTRATION, TOOK POWER. A YEAR AGO.
A YEAR AGO. DURING THIS TIME.
DURING THIS TIME. AND HE HAS PLACED DIFFERENT
AND HE HAS PLACED DIFFERENT REFORMS.
REFORMS. GOING TO FOSTER THE INFORMATION.
GOING TO FOSTER THE INFORMATION. IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC GROWING.
IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC GROWING. AND OFFERING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
AND OFFERING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE BUSINESS PEOPLE.
THE BUSINESS PEOPLE. INCLUDING PERSONS, CONVINCE
INCLUDING PERSONS, CONVINCE PEOPLE FROM ARIZONA.
PEOPLE FROM ARIZONA. TO GO TO MEXICO AND FOSTER THIS
TO GO TO MEXICO AND FOSTER THIS TRADE.
TRADE. >> YOU ATTENDED AN ANNUAL
>> YOU ATTENDED AN ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN MEXICO CITY WITH
CONFERENCE IN MEXICO CITY WITH AMBASSADORS AND CONSULS.
AMBASSADORS AND CONSULS. WHAT CAME OUT OF THE MEETING?
WHAT CAME OUT OF THE MEETING? >> WE HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET WITH
>> WE HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET WITH OUR PRESIDENT.
OUR PRESIDENT. AND WITH AND RESOLUTIONS.
AND WITH AND RESOLUTIONS. AND WHAT IS MEXICO DOING RIGHT
AND WHAT IS MEXICO DOING RIGHT NOW.
NOW. WE ARE IN A HUGE PROCESS OF
WE ARE IN A HUGE PROCESS OF REFORM.
REFORM. AND DITFFERENT FIELDS.
AND DITFFERENT FIELDS. FOSTERING MEXICO TO GROW AND
FOSTERING MEXICO TO GROW AND RELATE BETTER WITH THE WORLD.
RELATE BETTER WITH THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US
>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.
TODAY. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.
TODAY. AND THANK YOU TO ARIZONA.
AND THANK YOU TO ARIZONA. >> IRAN HAS AGREED TO REDUCE
>> IRAN HAS AGREED TO REDUCE NUCLEAR ENERGY PROGRAM IN
NUCLEAR ENERGY PROGRAM IN EXCHANGE FOR REDUCED
EXCHANGE FOR REDUCED INTERNATIONAL TRADE SANCTIONS.
INTERNATIONAL TRADE SANCTIONS. DAVID CHRIST, AN EXPERT IN U.S.
DAVID CHRIST, AN EXPERT IN U.S. IRANIAN RELATIONS WAS IN TUCSON
IRANIAN RELATIONS WAS IN TUCSON THIS WEEK.
THIS WEEK. ANDREA KELLY ASKED HEM IM TO
ANDREA KELLY ASKED HEM IM TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPEN SOWING
EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPEN SOWING FAR AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR US.
FAR AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR US. >> IT HAS BEN A EN A REMARKABLE
>> IT HAS BEN A EN A REMARKABLE YEAR, THE PROGRESS ON NOUCLEAR
YEAR, THE PROGRESS ON NOUCLEAR TALKS, IN TEN YEARS, AND BREAK
TALKS, IN TEN YEARS, AND BREAK THROUGH IN 35 YEARS.
THROUGH IN 35 YEARS. IN JUNE, 2013, THE PRESIDENT WAS
IN JUNE, 2013, THE PRESIDENT WAS ELECTED.
ELECTED. HE IS NOT A MODERATE.
HE IS NOT A MODERATE. CERTAINLY A PRAGMATIST.
CERTAINLY A PRAGMATIST. IT USHERED IN A WHOLE NEW
IT USHERED IN A WHOLE NEW IRANIAN APPROACH TO NUCLEAR
IRANIAN APPROACH TO NUCLEAR TALKS.
TALKS. POTENTIALLY THEY WANT TO GET OUT
POTENTIALLY THEY WANT TO GET OUT FROM CRIPPLING SANCTIONS.
FROM CRIPPLING SANCTIONS. THEY TOOK NUCLEAR NEGOTIATIONS
THEY TOOK NUCLEAR NEGOTIATIONS FAR MORE SERIOUSLY.
FAR MORE SERIOUSLY. AND, WITH THAT, HAS SEEN, SEEMS
AND, WITH THAT, HAS SEEN, SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN AT LEAST, INTERIM
TO HAVE BEEN AT LEAST, INTERIM BREAK THROUGH, CONFIDENCE
BREAK THROUGH, CONFIDENCE BUILDING MERCK OUR WITH AN
BUILDING MERCK OUR WITH AN AGREEMENT CALLED JOINT PLAN OF
AGREEMENT CALLED JOINT PLAN OF ACTION.
ACTION. OF WHICH, THE -- THE IRANIANS
OF WHICH, THE -- THE IRANIANS AGREED TO, ESSENTIALLY CAP THEIR
AGREED TO, ESSENTIALLY CAP THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM, PAR FK LAETICU
NUCLEAR PROGRAM, PAR FK LAETICU 20% ENRICHMENT OF URANIUM, CLOSE
20% ENRICHMENT OF URANIUM, CLOSE TO WHAT THEY NEED FOR NUCLEAR
TO WHAT THEY NEED FOR NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
WEAPONS. THEY WILL DILUTE THAT.
THEY WILL DILUTE THAT. INCREASED INSPECTIONS OF THEY'RE
INCREASED INSPECTIONS OF THEY'RE NUCLEAR FACILITIES.
NUCLEAR FACILITIES. OUR A
OUR A URANIUM MINES.
URANIUM MINES. WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
WHICH IS IMPORTANT. THEY WON'T DIP VERVERT URANIUM.
THEY WON'T DIP VERVERT URANIUM. IN RETURN THEY GET $7 BILLION IN
IN RETURN THEY GET $7 BILLION IN SANCTIONS.
SANCTIONS. STAGGERED OVER PAYMENTS OF SIX
STAGGERED OVER PAYMENTS OF SIX MONTHS.
MONTHS. WHAT THIS AGREEMENT DOES, IT
WHAT THIS AGREEMENT DOES, IT BUYS, FIRST OF ALL BUILDS
BUYS, FIRST OF ALL BUILDS CONFIDENCE BETWEEN THE EUROPEAN
CONFIDENCE BETWEEN THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES.
COUNTRIES. GERMANY, THE UNITED STATES AND
GERMANY, THE UNITED STATES AND IRAN.
IRAN. BUYS TIME UNTIL WE CAN FINALLY
BUYS TIME UNTIL WE CAN FINALLY NEG GE
NEG GE NEGOTIATE A PERMANENT AGREEMENT.
NEGOTIATE A PERMANENT AGREEMENT. THE LAST ONE BEING THE BIG
THE LAST ONE BEING THE BIG HURDLE.
HURDLE. WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES.
WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES. THE INTERIM AGREEMENT SO FAR HAS
THE INTERIM AGREEMENT SO FAR HAS IRAN HAS STARTED DILUTING THE
IRAN HAS STARTED DILUTING THE 20% ENRICHED OUR ANY YU EED URA.
20% ENRICHED OUR ANY YU EED URA. STOPPED HEAVY WATER FACILITY.
STOPPED HEAVY WATER FACILITY. IRAQ.
IRAQ. AND PLUTONIUM.
AND PLUTONIUM. AND INCREASE INSPECTS.
AND INCREASE INSPECTS. WE ARE OFF TO A POSITIVE START.
WE ARE OFF TO A POSITIVE START. >> YOU ARE IN TOWN TO SPEAK TO
>> YOU ARE IN TOWN TO SPEAK TO THE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN
THE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS.
RELATIONS. BRING THIS HOME TO US.
BRING THIS HOME TO US. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR TUCSON?
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR TUCSON? >> I THINK THERE IS NO MORE
>> I THINK THERE IS NO MORE SIGNIFICANT -- FOREIGN POLICY
SIGNIFICANT -- FOREIGN POLICY PROBLEM THAN IRAN AND ITS
PROBLEM THAN IRAN AND ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM.
NUCLEAR PROGRAM. I BLEACH IT IS PROBABLY TELIEVE
I BLEACH IT IS PROBABLY TELIEVE CAUSE FOR MILITARY CONFLICT WITH
CAUSE FOR MILITARY CONFLICT WITH THE UNITED STATES.
THE UNITED STATES. IF IRAN GOES FOR BREAKOUT OF
IF IRAN GOES FOR BREAKOUT OF NUCLEAR CAPABILITY.
NUCLEAR CAPABILITY. THE PRESIDENT COMMITTED TO USING
THE PRESIDENT COMMITTED TO USING ALL MEASURES INCLUDING MILITARY
ALL MEASURES INCLUDING MILITARY FORCE TO STOP IT.
FORCE TO STOP IT. THAT COULD EASILY SPREAD TO A
THAT COULD EASILY SPREAD TO A MUCH WIDER WAR.
MUCH WIDER WAR. SO, THE, THE RAMIFICATIONS OF
SO, THE, THE RAMIFICATIONS OF NOT -- SOLVING THIS PROBLEM ARE
NOT -- SOLVING THIS PROBLEM ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. >> YOU HAVE PUBLISHED A BOOK
>> YOU HAVE PUBLISHED A BOOK CALLED TWILIGHT.
CALLED TWILIGHT. THAT'S THE WORD YOU USED TO
THAT'S THE WORD YOU USED TO DESCRIBE THE RELATIONSHIP
DESCRIBE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN U.S. AND IRAN.
BETWEEN U.S. AND IRAN. DESCRIBE WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT
DESCRIBE WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT WORD AND THAT DESCRIPTION?
WORD AND THAT DESCRIPTION? >> I TITLED IT, THE BOOK, THE
>> I TITLED IT, THE BOOK, THE TWILIGHT WAR FOR A SPECIFIC
TWILIGHT WAR FOR A SPECIFIC REASON.
REASON. AND I SAID IT WAS A GREAT
AND I SAID IT WAS A GREAT DESCRIPTION OF THE U.S. IRANIAN
DESCRIPTION OF THE U.S. IRANIAN RELATIONS, FOR THE PAST 35
RELATIONS, FOR THE PAST 35 YEARS.
YEARS. A RELATIONSHIP SOME WHERE
A RELATIONSHIP SOME WHERE BETWEEN PEACE AND WAR, SOME
BETWEEN PEACE AND WAR, SOME WHERE BETWEEN THE LIGHT AND
WHERE BETWEEN THE LIGHT AND DARKNESS.
DARKNESS. KIND OF A QUASI WAR, COLD WAR.
KIND OF A QUASI WAR, COLD WAR. AN AMAZING TALE THAT, THE U.S.
AN AMAZING TALE THAT, THE U.S. AND IRAN HAVE, BEEN IN SORT OF A
AND IRAN HAVE, BEEN IN SORT OF A SUSPENDED RELATIONSHIP, WITH,
SUSPENDED RELATIONSHIP, WITH, ONLY EP SODISODIC EPISODE.
ONLY EP SODISODIC EPISODE. NO WAY TO TALK EXCEPT THROUGH
NO WAY TO TALK EXCEPT THROUGH INTERMEDIARIES.
INTERMEDIARIES. AND IT IS A RELATIONSHIP THAT
AND IT IS A RELATIONSHIP THAT HAS PING-PONGED BACK AND FORTH
HAS PING-PONGED BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE HOPEFUL PROSPECT OF
BETWEEN THE HOPEFUL PROSPECT OF PEACE AND DIALOGUE, WE ARE
PEACE AND DIALOGUE, WE ARE SEEING NOW WITH THE NUCLEAR
SEEING NOW WITH THE NUCLEAR TALKS.
TALKS. NOW THE LIKELIHOOD OF WAR.
NOW THE LIKELIHOOD OF WAR. JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.
JUST A FEW YEARS AGO. WE, WE -- WE WERE, PERHAPS ON
WE, WE -- WE WERE, PERHAPS ON THE BRINK OF WAR OVER IRAQ.
THE BRINK OF WAR OVER IRAQ. AND IRANIAN SUPPORT FOR, FOR
AND IRANIAN SUPPORT FOR, FOR MILITIAS WHO ARE KILLING,
MILITIAS WHO ARE KILLING, HUNDREDS OF U.S. SOLDIERS.
HUNDREDS OF U.S. SOLDIERS. >> SO THE TWO SIDES HAVE MADE
>> SO THE TWO SIDES HAVE MADE THIS AGREEMENT WHERE IRAN WILL
THIS AGREEMENT WHERE IRAN WILL REDUCE ITS NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES.
REDUCE ITS NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES. THE U.S. AND THE EU WILL REDUCE
THE U.S. AND THE EU WILL REDUCE SANCTIONS.
SANCTIONS. ITS EVERYBODY AS GOOD AS THEIR
ITS EVERYBODY AS GOOD AS THEIR WORD HERE?
WORD HERE? >> THERE IS A GREAT OLD LINE BY
>> THERE IS A GREAT OLD LINE BY RONALD REAGAN.
RONALD REAGAN. NEGOTIATING WITH THE SOVIET
NEGOTIATING WITH THE SOVIET UNION, CALLING TRUST BUT VERIFY.
UNION, CALLING TRUST BUT VERIFY. I THINK THAT WILL BE THE ANSWER
I THINK THAT WILL BE THE ANSWER HERE.
HERE. IRANIANS HAVE REPEATEDLY STATED.
IRANIANS HAVE REPEATEDLY STATED. THAT THEY HAD NO INTENTION OF A
THAT THEY HAD NO INTENTION OF A NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM. WHETHER THAT IS TRUE OR NOT.
WHETHER THAT IS TRUE OR NOT. WE ARE NOT QUITE SURE.
WE ARE NOT QUITE SURE. WE, WE ARE PRETTY SURE THEY HAVE
WE, WE ARE PRETTY SURE THEY HAVE DONE SOME, WEAPONS EXPEERMENTS
DONE SOME, WEAPONS EXPEERMENTS
IN -- EXPERIMENTS IN THE PAST.
IN -- EXPERIMENTS IN THE PAST. TRIGGERING DEVICES FOR EXAMPLE.
TRIGGERING DEVICES FOR EXAMPLE. WHETHER THEY WANT AMBIGUITY OR
WHETHER THEY WANT AMBIGUITY OR IN THE BRINK OF A WEAPONS
IN THE BRINK OF A WEAPONS BREAKOUT.
BREAKOUT. IS THE AMERICAN CONCERN.
IS THE AMERICAN CONCERN. SO FAR THE IRANIANS HAVE ADHERED
SO FAR THE IRANIANS HAVE ADHERED TO THE EARLY PARTS OF THIS,
TO THE EARLY PARTS OF THIS, JOINT PLAN OF ACTION.
JOINT PLAN OF ACTION. WHICH IS THE POSITIVE STEP.
WHICH IS THE POSITIVE STEP. ONLY TIME WILL TELL, LONG TERM.
ONLY TIME WILL TELL, LONG TERM. AS FAR AS THEMETHE UNITED STATE
AS FAR AS THEMETHE UNITED STATE PLUS ONE.
PLUS ONE. I THINK WE HAVE IMPACTED, SOME
I THINK WE HAVE IMPACTED, SOME OF OUR ISSUES.
OF OUR ISSUES. ON, ON, ZERO ENRICHMENT, WHICH
ON, ON, ZERO ENRICHMENT, WHICH WAS, A PRECURSOR TO TALKS IN THE
WAS, A PRECURSOR TO TALKS IN THE PAST.
PAST. AND ALSO, A -- I THINK WE HAVE
AND ALSO, A -- I THINK WE HAVE SHOWN A MORE WILLINGNESS TO, TO,
SHOWN A MORE WILLINGNESS TO, TO, WORK WITH THE IRANIAN ON TERMS
WORK WITH THE IRANIAN ON TERMS THAT I THINK WILL, WILL REACH A
THAT I THINK WILL, WILL REACH A BARGAIN.
BARGAIN. >> THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME
>> THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO SPEAK WITH US.
TO SPEAK WITH US. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> SUPPORT COMES FROM THE
>> SUPPORT COMES FROM THE ARIZONA DAILY STAR.
ARIZONA DAILY STAR. TELLING THE STORY OF TUCSON AND
TELLING THE STORY OF TUCSON AND THE AMAZING SOUTHWEST SINCE
THE AMAZING SOUTHWEST SINCE 1877.