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shortly after
full bombing took office the c_i_a_ shutdown a lot of the network of secret
interrogation centers also known as black sites
and the president promised to close guantanamo backed
now we know that kwan simul wasn't close but there were alarms number of the
black sites that were closed
and after he did that
he felt pressure from
both the military community and officials inside the administration to
do something
in other words since he had spoken so forcefully against guantanamo he wanted
to close the black sites
he felt as if
on a national stage he was being weak compared to the republican
administrations
in reality he just wanted to follow the law more so right
so what do you know doing
in response to the pressure he felt
and uh... massively increasing
the use of drums
to do some specifics on this between
nine eleven two thousand and one and december two thousand and two u_s_
detained more than three thousand people in more than one hundred countries
so one of the bush administration after nine eleven they basically said all we
figure from outcry within your firm out by uh...
were round and people up in shipping to multiple access
now of course that's a legal that's not allowed
that's uh... wrong you need to have evidence right
but either way
that's what they ended up doing
then there was a public outcry
and it became clear
that there may be criminal charges against our c_i_a_ operatives for their
use of torture and their use of the black sites
and then
something interesting happens
there was before shift to drone strikes
instead of blocking all these people up
the administration
or intelligence officials
thought were terrorists
the most telling quote in the article about this
qu this shift to drones was made for a legal and political reasons
despite significant moral concerns and the potential for abuse
surely enough a recent poll indicates that fifty four percent of americans
believe get motion stay open while twenty seven percent believe it should
be shut down
and eighty three percent of americans
approve of the obon administrations useful drones against suspected
terrorists
so no worries because of the public pressure
to not do indefinite detention
cannot do
uh... torturing
uh... the bush administration and the obon initiation said ok so will just go
on is that
man that is scary
in the words of john belger who is the lawyer who drafted the legal framework
for drones under bush
the administration has decided they don't want to do the tension
because the bush administration got into trouble with detention
so now
you're just gonna kill people
way to go mister progressive lionel bomber
now how many pple have died
that's the question
uh... in direct result to are drawn trikes
well between two thousand four and now in pakistan alone there's been
three hundred sixty eight c_i_a_ drone strikes
that killed total of two thousand five hundred forty-one
to three thousand five hundred thirty three people
according to the bureau of investigative journalism
furthermore there was a study done by stanford an n_y_u_
from about a year ago
that said roughly eight hundred of the people who have been killed by drones
par civilians including a large amounts of women and children just just under
two hundred
and by the way that number has since gone up
in terms of how many of the people we killed or actually al-qaeda operatives
two percent
yeh well-done you guys are great
but that's not gonna make people hate us around the world right
as i can inspire hatred
if you do drums tried to kill thousands of people in only two percent or you're
actually intended targets
event for more
uh... the memos that were leaked from the white house talked about the
different types of drawn tries that they do
and
one of them is called a personality strike
that's the least controversial where they know they're going after anita
strike right
and there's something called the signature strike
where they go yeah we're not sure back as a terrorist bios suspicious till name
and then there's what's called a double tap
where they attack
with the drones
and in a circle around and kill whoever's helping that people who might
be a lot
now they don't do that is all there killing a good samaritan is
they rationalize that
and they say although well since the people we killed we think we're maybe
kind of i don't know terrorist and the people were helping them obviously they
are terrorists are terrorist sympathizers
actual crazy man well candidate
in terms of the legality of both of those things
yeah i'd just like the black sites paralegal not only under international
law but under u_s_ law
uh... dislike
torture is
obviously a legal not only under international law
but under u_s_ law
i mean it's unconstitutional the eighth amendment protects against cruel and
unusual punishment
torture isn't cruel and unusual punishment economic celtic right
uh... but also it's not like drone strikes
not illegal
no they are a clear violation
uh... how much money dot i don't even know how many different laws they break
i'm guessing
over fifty different laws
are you kidding me between international laws
the geneva conventions
the nuremberg tribunals the fact that you need a declaration of war did you
actually got under the constitution of the united states but they don't care
will just attacking
pakistan in yemen and wherever we deem necessary
the fact that they're doing it without
proving in a court of law they're getting the right people and by the way
they're not getting the right people
i mean it states
pathetic
and this is supposed to be
the democratic progressive administration