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>> THIS NEXT SONG IS ABSOLUTELY
ABOUT THE INSIDE OF MY HEAD!
>> I'M GWEN STEFANI FROM THE
BAND NO DOUBT.
>> I'M TONY KANAL AND I PLAY
BASS IN NO DOUBT.
>> I'M TOM DUMONT.
GUITARIST IN NO DOUBT.
>> I'M ADRIAN YOUNG AND I PLAY
DRUMS FOR NO DOUBT.
>> THE LEGENDARY GROUP IS BACK.
>> WATCH OUT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO SLAP YOU UP.
LIKE UP!
WATCH THIS.
>> WITH THE RELEASE OF THEIR
SIXTH ALBUM "PUSH AND SHOVE."
OVER THE NEXT HOUR, WE'VE GOT
NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN FOOTAGE AND
EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH THE
BAND AS THEY REFLECT ON MORE
THAN 25 YEARS OF HISTORY.
>> WE WEREN'T STRUGGLING FOR
FAME.
WE WERE EXCITED JUST TO PLAY THE
NEXT SHOW.
>> THE GROWING PAINS.
>> HE BROKE UP WITH ME AND ALL
OF A SUDDEN I HAD ALL OF THESE
THINGS TO SAY.
>> UNCERTAINTY.
>> I REMEMBER MOMENTS WE WOULD
JUST BE LIKE, IF THIS RECORD
DOESN'T WORK, MAYBE WE'RE GOOD.
>> AND LAUGHS.
>> I HAVE BEEN A NUDE STAGE DIVE
AND MY SWEATY BALLS LANDED ON
SOME POOR YOUNGSTER'S FOREHEAD.
I WILL NEVER FORGET THAT.
>> THIS IS
>> I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S
ANYONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHO NO
DOUBT IS.
THEY'RE LEGENDARY.
THEY'RE ICONIC.
>> IT'S BEEN 11 YEARS SINCE NO
DOUBT PUT OUT ITS LAST STUDIO
ALBUM.
COMING BACK INTO THE POP MUSIC
SCENE AFTER A LONG LAYOFF IS
ALWAYS A GAMBLE.
♪
>> IT'S AN EXTENSION OF
EVERYTHING WE'VE ALWAYS DONE.
MUSICALLY IT'S KIND OF
EVERYTHING THAT WE LOVED GROWING
UP.
IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE, KIND OF
ABOUT THINGS I HAVE BEEN GOING
THROUGH THE LAST FEW YEARS.
THAT'S WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT BEING
ABLE TO DOCUMENT YOUR LIFE IN
THESE SONGS.
IT BRINGS YOU RIGHT BACK TO THE
POINT WHERE YOU WERE AND
CAPTURES IT LIKE A SNAPSHOT AT
THAT TIME IN YOUR LIFE.
BACK THEN THE GIRL THAT I USED
TO BE WAS SUCH A LIKE CAP
PASSIVE KIND OF PERSON.
I DID WHAT MY BROTHER WANTED ME
TO DO.
HE WAS SO COOL AND HE KNEW
ABOUTAL OF THE COOL MUSIC AND HE
BROUGHT HOME MAGNUS RECORDS
SPECIAL.
I WAS LIKE 13, 14, YOU KNOW.
I WAS JUST GETTING INTO HIGH
SCHOOL AND AND I FELT LIKE I WAS
JUST DISCOVERING THAT MUSIC, IT
REALLY DEFINED ME.
ALL OF A SUDDEN I FELT LIKE, OK,
THIS IS WHO I AM.
>> ERIC WAS SUCH A CREATIVE
PERSON AND SO TALENTED.
>> HE WOULD FORCE ME TO SING AND
HE WOULD PLAY PIANO AND I WOULD
BE LIKE WATCHING "THE BRADY
BUNCH," COME HERE AND SING MY
SONG AND I WOULD BE LIKE NO, I'M
BEING LAZY.
>> GWEN STEFANI AND HER OLDER
BROTHER GOT THIS BAND STARTED
JOHN WAS ALWAYS MY HOUSE.
MY MOM HAD TO FEED HIM AND DRIVE
HIM.
>> JOHN WAS ALWAYS SMILING,
HAPPY AND REALLY WAS ABOUT
WRITING MUSIC AND TRYING TO MAKE
THE BAND THE BEST IT COULD BE
WITH MY BROTHER.
DOING SOMETHING UNDERGROUND AND
KIND OF UNUSUAL.
>> IT WAS 1987, I WAS 16 YEARS
OLD.
I WAS A JUNIOR IN ANAHEIM HIGH
SCHOOL.
HI BEEN PLAYING BASS IN HIGH
SCHOOL BAND FOR YEARS AND MET
THE ORIGINAL DRUMMER OF IN
DOUBT.
HE APPROACHED ME ONE DAY THROUGH
A MUTUAL FRIEND AND SAID HEY, WE
STARTED A BAND.
PLAYED A FEW PARTIES.
WE'RE ABOUT TO DO OUR FIRST
SHOW.
EXTENDERS AND GRAND BALLROOM IN
LONG BEEFMENT WE'RE LOOKING FOR
A BASS PLAYER.
COOL, I WILL CHECK IT OUT.
I WE TO THE SHOW.
THE DAY WAS MARCH 14, 1987.
FENDER'S WAS INCREDIBLY [BLEEP]
DIRTY CLUB, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE
BEER AND IT WAS AMAZING.
WE WERE THE FIRST OF 12 BANDS
OPENING FOR THE UNTOUCHABLES.
THEY WERE SPECTACULAR.
A WEEK LATER I WAS TRYING OUT
FOR THEM.
>> THERE HAD BEEN KIND OF AN
UNWRITTEN RULE, NOBODY IN THE
BAND DATES GWEN.
>> LEGEND AS HA GWEN PURSUED
TONY AND THERE WAS ARM-TWISTING
INVOLVED WITH THE TWO OF THEM
GETTING TOGETHER.
>> TONY AND GWEN WAS A SEEK
REFMENT THEY TRIED TO HIDE IT
FROM THE BAND FOR A WHILE AND
EVENTUALLY THEY WERE DATING.
>> I WAS JUST IN LOVE WITH MY
BOYFRIEND AND HE WAS IN THE BAND
SO IT MADE IT REALLY GREAT TO
HANG OUT WITH HIM AND IT WAS
JUST SO LIKE NAIVE THE WHOLE
THING.
[APPLAUSE]
>> SO THIS IS '88.
I WAS IN A HEAVY METAL BAND.
NO DOUBT ALWAYS USED TO REHEARSE
AT OUR SPOT.
>> WE WOULD JUST GET UP AND
PLAY.
LIKE WE WERE PLAYING A REALLY
SHOW.
AT A CERTAIN POINT WE WOULD GET
PEOPLE WATCHING US THROUGH THE
WINDOWS.
WHO ARE THESE WEIRDOS?
LIKE WHO'S THAT GIRL AND WHAT
ARE THEY DOING IN THERE?
TOM WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.
>> THEY WERE THE OPPOSITE OF
HEAVY METAL AND THEY WERE
BOUNCING OFF THE WALLS AND THERE
WAS SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL
ABOUT THEM.
AND INDEPENDENT UP LEAVING MY
BAND AND JUST BY TOTAL GOOD
LUCK, THERE WAS A FLIER UP AT
THE REHEARSAL STUDIO SAYING NO
DOUBT LOOKING FOR GUITAR PLAYER.
SO I TOOK THE WHOLE FLIER
BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY
ELSE TO CALL THEM.
I CALLED AND THEY LET ME TRY
OUT.
I HAD LONG, CURLY *** HAIR DOWN
TO HERE, TIED IT IN A PONYTAIL.
SOMEHOW IT JUST WORKED.
>> MY FRIENDS AND I USED TO GO
WATCH NO DOUBT.
I WAS KIND OF BECOMING A REGULAR
AT THEIR SHOWS AS A FAN.
I JUST THOUGHT THIS BAND IS SO
STITCHING.
I WOULD LOVE TO PLAY IN A BAND
LIKE THAT.
IN 1989 I HEARD THROUGH A FRIEND
NO DOUBT'S LOOKING FOR A NEW
DRUMMER.
I WAS LIKE KIND OF [BLEEP]
MYSELF.
AT THAT TIME I HAD BEEN PLAYING
DRUMS FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
SO I HAD AN AUDITION WITH THE
BAND AND I HAD TO WING IT.
WHEN THEY ASKED ME HOW LONG HAVE
YOU BEEN PLAYING DRUMS, I TOLD
THEM, OH, ABOUT EIGHT YEARS SO I
NEEDED TO MAKE UP A LOT OF
GROUND.
THAT WAS LIKE THE UNIT THAT
REALLY CLICKED.
ME AND ADRIAN AND GWEN AND TONY
AND GWEN'S BROTHER ERIC WAS
GREAT CHEMISTRY FROM THE
BEGINNING.
>> COMING UP --
>> A FRIEND OF OURS INTRODUCED
US THAT NIGHT AND SAID THIS WILL
>> I CAN REMEMBER ONE SHOW, I
DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WERE BUT I
REMEMBER THINKING, EVERYTHING
HAD CHANGED FOR ME ON STAGE.
I THINK JUST FELT RIGHT AND THAT
FEELING OF FEELING POWERFUL UP
THERE, THAT IS ONE MOMENT IN MY
LIFE WHERE I REMEMBER JUST
FEELING LIKE ELECTRIC.
♪
>> WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT, WE
HAD TWO SINGERS, JOHN SPENCE AND
GWEN STEFANI.
>> JOHN WAS KIND OF THE FOCUS ON
STAGE FOR THAT FIRST YEAR OF THE
BAND.
HE WAS THIS LIKE HUMAN DYNAMO.
GWEN AT THAT TIME, SHE WAS A
LITTLE BIT MORE RESERVED.
SHE WAS SINGING WITH JOHN AND
SHE WAS DANCING AND STUFF BUT
NOBODY IN THE BAND HAD THE
ENERGY JOHN HAD.
>> BUT JOHN'S FENCE APPARENTLY
HAD BEEN PRONE TO DEPRESSION.
>> I GOT THE CALL FROM GWEN
SEPTEMBER 21, 1987 AND HE WAS
LIKE YOU NEED TO COME OVER.
I WENT OVER
>> EVERYBODY WAS BLINDSIDED BY
THIS.
WE'RE REALLY YOUNG AND TRYING TO
DEAL WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT
THAT AGE IS VERY, VERY INTENSE.
>> IT WAS DEVASTATING.
WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
WE DIDN'T KNOW WOULD JOHN WANT
US TO GO ON, THE BAND OVER?
I REMEMBER WE HAD A BIG SHOW
COMING UP AT THE ROXY.
FOR US, THAT WAS GIGANTIC.
>> WE DECIpOURS INTRODUCED US T
AND SAID, THIS WILL BE NO
DOUBT'S LAST SHOW.
I DON'T KNOW
>> AFTER JOHN SPENCE DIED,
THAT'S WHEN TOM AND ADRIAN CAME
IN.
THE NEXT QUESTION WAS, WHO IS
GOING TO REPLACE JOHN AS THE
SINGER WITH GWEN?
>> BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT WE
JUST KIND OF LOOKED AT OURSELVES
AND SAID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE
AN AMAZING SINGER.
WE HAVE GWEN.
♪
>> IT'S JUST SO FUN BECAUSE
WE'RE ALWAYS PLAYING WITH ALL OF
THESE OTHER BANDS THAT HAD GUY
LEAD SINGERS SO BEING A GIRL AND
GETTING UP THERE AND TRYING TO
LIKE COMPETE WITH THAT.
THAT WAS THE FUN IN THE
BEGINNING, TRYING TO PROVE
MYSELF.
AH, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I'M
A GIRL BECAUSE I'M GOING TO MAKE
YOU GO OFF RIGHT NOW.
WATCH.
>> WE WENT OVER A MALE AUDIENCE
THAT WAS THERE TO SEE A FAN THAT
WAS TOUGHER THAN US.
IT WAS AWESOME.
WE FELT LIKE [BLEEP] WE CAN PLAY
ANYWHERE.NO CARRIERRINGCONNECT
>> OUR FIRST ALBUM, SELF-TITLED,
CAME OUT.
>> THIS WAS THE TIME OF GRUNGE.
>> BIT TIME THEY WERE GOING TO
MAKE THE VIDEO FOR "TRAPPED IN A
BOX," THE VIDEO FOR THE ALBUM,
APPARENTLY INTERER SCOPE IS OVER
IT SO THEY HAD JUST $5,000 TO
MAKE THIS VIDEO.
♪
>> THE "TRAPPED IN A BOX" VIDEO,
A LOT OF THAT WAS JUST HOME
MADE.
EVERYONE JUST MAKING THEIR OWN
COSTUMES.
♪
>> YOU'RE EXCITED YOU MADE THIS
RECORD.
YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT THERE NOW
AND PLAY THESE CLUBS WENT WOULD
PLAY THESE SHOWS AROUND THE
COUNTRY.
AND IT WASN'T SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA.
>> THE BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT
WAS FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, WE
WERE PLAYING FOR NOBODY.
>> SO IT WAS DISCOURAGING ON A
CERTAIN LEVEL.
WE WERE RESOLVED TO KEEP MAKING
RECORDS.
>> COMING UP --
>> IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY HARD
TIME PERIOD BECAUSE IT WAS ME
AND TONY, MY EX-BOYFRIEND,
TALK
>> THE BIGGEST SECTION OF OUR
SLIDES WAS SO FUN.
WE JUST WANTED TO PUT MUSIC OUT
SO BADLY.
>> WE HAVE THGWEN'S PARENTS OWN
AND THAT BECAME OUR BASE OF
OPERATIONS.
>> BEACON STREET WAS LIKE A BIG
DEAL BECAUSE MY PARENTS WERE
REALLY STRICT SO TO+
INTO A REAL STUDIO.
IT WAS THE BEST THING THAT EVER
HAPPENED BECAUSE IT REALLY
TAUGHT US HOW TO WRITE AND
RECORD MUSIC.
IT WAS JUST MAGIC.
>> BUT THINGS STARTED TO FALL
APART A LITTLE BIT.
>> SO WE'RE IN THE STUDIO MAKING
OUR SECOND ALBUM, THE BIG ONE.
>> IN 1993 WE STARTED RECORDING
DEMOS FOR THE NEXT ALBUM.
THE ALBUM THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY
BECOME "TRAGIC KINGDOM."
IT WAS A VERY FRUSTRATING RECORD
TO MAKE.
I REMEMBER THOSE MOMENTS WHERE
WE WOULD BE LIKE IF THIS RECORD
DOESN'T WORK, MAYBE WE'RE G
MAYBE WE HAD A GREAT RUN.
>> THREE YEARS OF BACK AND
FORTH.
THE RECORD COMPANIES DIDN'T LET
US PUT THE RECORD OUT.
WE HAD TO GO BEHIND THEIR BACKS
sWASN'T FOR GWEN EET COLLECTION
STEFANI, I WOULDN'T BE SITTING
HERE NOW AND ONE OF THE
CASUALTIES OF THE "TRAGIC
KINGDOM" RECORD WAS ERIC LEAVING
THE BAND.
>> IT CAME TO WRITE THE RECORD
AND PRODUCER WANTED TO CHANGE
EVERYTHING HE HAD DONE.
>> THERE WAS A LOT OF CHANGES HE
DIDN'T WANT TO BE A PART OF.
>> THERE WAS A LOT OF GWEN
ESPECIALLY.
IT WAS A REALLY CHALLENGING
TIME.
>> ERIC WAS THE MAIN LIRIST OF
THE BAND.
WHEN HE DEPARTED IN '94, WE HAD
TO FINISH "THE TRAGIC KINGDOM"
RECORD AND HAD TO FIND OURSELVES
AND GWEN BECAME EMPOWERED AS
LYRIST TO EXPRESS HERSELF.
"JUST A GIRL" IS PROBABLY THE
SONG THAT BEST DESCRIBES WHAT
HAPPENED DURING THAT TIME FOR
HER.
♪ I'M JUST A GIRL ♪
>> I JUST REMEMBER WRITING IT
AND SITTING THERE GOING, WOW,
THIS IS REALLY HOW I FEEL RIGHT
NOW.
BUT I HAVE NO IDEA NO ONE WOULD
HEAR IT EVER.
♪
>> WE WEREN'T EXPECTING BIC
SUCCESS.
TO HAVE IT HEARD WAS REALLY
EXCITING.
>> WHEN THAT SONG HIT THE RADIO,
EVERYTHING CHANGED.
>> IT WAS LIKE A MIRACLE.
♪
>> I JUST DISCOVERED THAT I
COULD WRITE SONGS AND THEN TONY
BROKE UP WITH ME AND ALL OF A
SUDDEN LIKE I HAD ALL OF THESE
THINGS TO SAY.
♪ YOU AND ME USED TO BE
TOGETHER ♪
>> I JUST REMEMBER JUST WRITING
THE LYRICS, IT WAS JUST SO
NATURAL, IT WAS WHAT I WAS
FEELING.
>> OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF HER
LYRICS WERE FUELED BY WHAT WE
WERE GOING THROUGH AND "DON'T
SPEAK" WAS ONE OF THOSE SONGS
THAT WAS LIKE A CATHARSIS FOR
HER, LIKE VENTING HER INNER
EMOTIONS.
SHE FOUND HERSELF IN HER SONG
WRITING.
>> IT WAS JUST AN AMAZING,
AMAZING SONG THAT WILL ALWAYS BE
LIKE SO GRATEFUL FOR.
IT GAVE US THE WHOLE LIFE WE
HAVE NOW.
♪ DON'T SPEAK I KNOW WHAT
YOU'RE THINKING ♪
>> HER NEWFOUND POWER OF BEING
ABLE TO WRITE LYRICS RESULTED IN
"TRAGIC KINGDOM" BECOMING THE
HUGE BREAKTHROUGH FOR THE BAND.
>> BUT IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY
HARD TIME PERIOD BECAUSE WE WERE
DOING ALL OF THESE INTERVIEWS
AND THEY WERE REALLY WORKING US.
I MEAN, WE WANTED IT.
WE LOVED IT.
BUT IT WAS ME AND TONY, MY
EX-BOYFRIEND TALKING ABOUT OUR
LIFE.
>> IT WAS EMOTIONALLY FA
TEAKING.
-- FATIGUING.
TALK ABOUT REOPENING A SCAR OVER
AND OVER EVERY DAY.
>> AT THAT POINT HI IN GAVIN AND
IT WAS A REALLY HARD TIME PERIOD
FOR ME AND TONY TO BE ABLE TOOS
WOULD BREAK UP THE BAND.
BUT SOMEHOW THE OVERRIDING
PASSION WE HAD FOR THE BAND
HELPED US GET THROUGH GWEN AND
TONY'S BREAKUP.
>> DURING THAT 28-MONTH "TRAGIC
KINGDOM" TOUR WE WENT TO SOME
INCREDIBLE PLACES.
>> WE ARE TOURING COUNTRIES WE
NEVER THOUGHT WE WOULD EVER
VISIT.
>> WE GET ON STAGE WERE LIKE
WATCH OUT.
WE'RE GOING TO SLAP YOU UP.
WE WOULD BE UP THERE AND BOOM,
BOOM.
ONCE YOU HAVE HITS IT'S LIKE --
WATCH THIS!
♪ I'M JUST A GIRL ♪
♪ LITTLE OLD ME ♪
>> YOU'RE PLAYING FOR 5,000
PEOPLE IN ISRAEL AND EVERYONE'S
CRYING.
YOU'RE PLAYING FOR 3,000 PEOPLE
IN INDIA AND EVERYONE'S JUMPING
UP AND DOWN.
YOU JUST START REALIZING
EVERYBODY'S THE SAME.
♪
♪ WE USED TO BE TOGETHER ♪
>> NOT UNTIL YOU'RE ON STAGE AND
SEE THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY ARE
SINGING YOUR LIFE BACK AT YOU,
THAT YOU GO, WOW, THIS IS
INTENSE.
THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING.
>> WE HAD ALREADY BEEN ON THE
ROAD FOR IT FELT LIKE -- IT WAS
A LONG TIME AND WE WERE STARTING
TO GET A LITTLE CUOCO.
I JUST STARTED DOING WEIRD
[BLEEP].
HAVE A LITTLE SUCCESS AND
ALCOHOL AND MY BALLS GREW.
AND FOR WHATEVER REASON I WANTED
TO SHOW THEM OFF.
SO I STARTED PLAYING NUDE.
AT ONE POINT IN EUROPE I DID A
NUDE STAGE DIVE.
I KIPE OF HURT MY NUTS A LITTLE
BIT AND I KNOW MY SWEATY BALLS
♪ANDED ON SOME POOR YOUNGSTER'S
>> COMING UP --
>> IT WASN'T SO MUCH LIKE ENVY
THAT SHE WAS BECOMING A FAMOUS
STAR.
IT WAS MORE LIKE A FEAR OF, THIS
IS GOING TO BREAK US U
>> WE WERE PLAYING A BENEFIT
SHOW AT THE PA LADEN AND LOOKING
AT EACH OTHER GOING THIS IS
CRAZY.
WE USED TO SEE OUR FAVORITE
BANDS HERE D WE CHANGE?
I REMEMBER GWEN SAYING, WE
HAVEN'T CHANGED.
THE WORLD AROUND US CHANGED.
ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYBODY KNOWS
WHO WE ARE.
IT'S A TRIPPI TRANSITION.
WE TOURED FOR TWO YEARS BEHIND
"TRAGIC KINGDOM" AND CAME OUT
THE END OF IT LIKE GROWN UP.
>> IT WAS A TIME WHEN EVERYBODY
WAS GETTING USED TO THE IDEA OF
BEING AN ESTABLISHED BAND AND A
CELEBRITY.
>> THE BAND IS NINE YEARS AND A
LITTLE POPULAR.
>> IT'S VERY SURREAL WHAT'S
GOING ON.
>> I GOT TO BE HONEST, WHEN WE
STARTED TO ACHIEVE SUCCESS, IT
GOT WEIRD.
IT GOT AWKWARD IN A PERSONAL WAY
AND INSIDE THE BAND BECAUSE
AFTER "TRAGIC KINGDOM" STARTED
TO BECOME SUSS SESSFUL, GWEN
STARTED GETTING PULLED IN A LOT
OF DIRECTIONS.
>> LEARNING TO ADJUST TO THE
SEPARATION OF GWEN AND US WAS
TOUGH.
WE ALWAYS THOUGHT OF OURSELVES
AS A BAND.
"SPIN" MAGAZINE BUT GWEN ON THE
COVER AND THE REST OF US WEREN'T
AND OTT COVER.
THAT'S A VERY SPECIFIC EXAMPLE
BUT IT WAS AN ONGOING, DAILY
THING OF BEING TREATED
DIFFERENTLY AND THERE WAS SOME
PETTY FEELINGS GOING ON I THINK
AT THE TIME.
>> REALLY FOR ME IT WASN'T SO
MUCH LIKE ENVY THAT SHE WAS
BECOMING A FAMOUS STAR.
IT WAS MORE LIKE A FEAR OF THIS
IS GOING TO BREAK US UP SOMEHOW,
THAT SHE'S GOING TO BE PULLED
AWAY.
BUT IT WAS JUST GROWING PAINS.
WE CAME OUT THE END OF IT LIKE
WITH OUR FRIENDSHIPS REALLY
STRONG AND INTACT.
>> WE CAME OFF THIS 28-MONTH
TOUR OF "TRAGIC KINGDOM."
WE WERE EXHAUSTED MENTALLY,
EMOTIONALLY, PHYSICALLY.
SO WE WERE IN MUCH NEED OF A
BREAK BUT WE DIDN'T REAL LAY
FORWARD OURSELVES A BREAK.
IT WAS JUST LIKE THE PRESSURE OF
FOLLOWING UP "TRAGIC KINGDOM" AT
THE TIME WAS SO INTENSE AND WE
WENT STRAIGHT INTO WRITING
"RETURN OF SATURN."
>> IT WAS A HARD ALBUM TO WRITE
AND TO MAKE BECAUSE WE'RE JUST
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO WE WERE
>> I THINK THE LEAR CAL CONTENT
OF "RETURN TO SATURN" WAS VERY
MUCH WHAT GWEN WAS FEELING AT
THE TIME.
>> GWEN HAD A NEW LOVE IN HER
LIFE.
WAS IN THIS DEVELOPING
RELATIONSHIP WITH GAVIN ROSSDALE
AND THIS IS RICH MATERIAL FOR A
SONGWRITER, ALWAYS THE UPS AND
DOWNS.
>> I THINK SHE WAS LONGING FOR
THAT STARTING A FAMILY AND MAYBE
TAKING A BREAK FROM BEING IN THE
LIMELIGHT.
>> "SIMPLE KIND OF LIFE" WAS
WRITTEN DURING A TIME THAT WAS
AN IN-BETWEEN PHASE AND I WAS
JUST QUESTIONING EVERYTHING.
I WAS SITTING THERE AND DON'T
EVEN PLAY GUITAR AND IT JUST
CAME OUT.
OH, MY GOSH, I THINK I WROTE A
SONG.
ONLY SONG I EVER WROTE ON GAY
TAR ON MY OWN.
>> I THINK SHE ENVISIONED HAVING
A PRETTY, STANDARD NORMAL LIFE.
AND BEFORE "TRAGIC KINGDOM" OUR
LIVES WERE VERY SIMPLE AND FOR
EACH ONE OF US, WE PROBABLY
COULD ENVISION WHAT A NORMAL
LIFE WOULD BE LIKE.
IN 1999 I DECIDED, I WANT TO
PROPOSE TO MY WIFE NINA ON
STAGE.
>> NINA, I LOVE YOU VERY MUCH.
WILL YOU MARRY ME?
>> IT WAS A REALLY BIG NIGHT FOR
MYSELF, MY WIFE AND FOR THE
BAND.
>> IT WAS JUST AN INTENSE RECORD
TO MAKE.
I THINK ONCE WE GOT IT OUT,
WE'RE JUST LIKE [BLEEP] IT.
WE DID WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.
>> WE TOURED FOR CLOSE TO A YEAR
BEHIND THAT ALBUM.
WE WERE STILL LIKE ENJOYING
BEING TOGETHER AS A BAND.
WHILE WE WERE ON "THE RETURN OF
SATURN" TOUR, WE'RE SUPER
INFLUENCED BY JAMAICAN DANCE
HALL MUSIC.
>> AFTER THE SHOW WE WOULD SET
UP DEEJAY BOOTHS AND HAVE DANCE
HALL PARTIES AND DANCE HALL WAS
THIS NEW FLAVOR FROM JAMAICA
THAT WE GOT REALLY EXCITED
ABOUT.
>> EVERYONE FELT VERY UNITED AND
IT FELT LIKE THE EGOS HAD DIED
DOWN AFTER "RETURN OF SATURN,"
EVERYBODY HAD THESE KIND OF EGOS
NG WAS WE WANTED OF THAT.
MUSIC YOU COULD DANCE TO.
>> "ROCK STEADY" FELT FRESH AND
MODERN.
>> WE WERE TRYING TO DO
SOMETHING NEW AND IT WORKED.
>> IT WAS THE EASIEST RECORD WE
EVER MADE.
♪
>> HE THOUGHT WANTED TO PARTY
WITH NO DOUBT.
THAT WOULD BE THE
WAS IT NEEDED TO REALLY PUSH THE
ENVELOPE OF THE BAND.
IT NEEDED TO FEEL MODERN.
>> IT WAS A REAL DEPARTURE FROM
THE EARLIER SOUND OF THE BAND.
BUT WE WERE FALLING OUR
INSPIRATION AND TRYING TO MOVE
FORWARD MUSICALLY AND BE BRAVE.
WHEN WE DID THE "HEY BABY" VIDEO
ONE SCENE WE PULLED FROM REAL
LIFE WAS THE PARTY SCENE.
IT WAS AN INTERSCOPE PARTY IN
NEW YORK CITY.
THERE WAS THESE PAIR OF
GYMNASTIC RINGS AND LOOKING AT
THOSE RINGS I'M GOING OH, MAN, I
KNOW SOMEONE'S GOING TO SAY, GET
NUDE AND GET ON THOSE RINGS
BECAUSE I USED TO DO DARES A LOT
FOR MONEY.
A BUNCH OF MONEY COMES IN.
I GET UP ON THESE RINGS, I'M
NAKED AND I'M TRYING TO DO SOME
GYMNASTIC MOVES AND SOME TWIRLS
AND UPSIDE DOWN WEIRDNESS AND
GWEN'S TALKING TO SNOOP DOGG.
SNOOP LOOKED UP AND GO WHAT THE
[BLEEP] IS THAT?
AND SHE'S GOES OH, THAT'S OUR
DRUMMER.
HE DOES THAT STUFF ALL THE TIME.
I THINK THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION
BECAUSE I WAS GAY, I THINK
THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION BECAUSE I
WAS NAKED IN THE VIDEO, THAT
SOMEHOW I'M GAY.
[LAUGHTER]
♪ YOU LOVE IT UNDERNEATH IT ALL
♪
>> "UNDERNEATH IT ALL" WAS
WRITTEN DURING THE "ROCK STEADY"
PERIOD.
I REMEMBER I WAS WALKING IN THE
PARK IN LONDON WITH MY HUSBAND,
WERE WE MARRIED WITH?
ONE OF THOSE KIND OF MAGICAL
ONES THAT JUST KIND OF APPEARED
WITHOUT EVEN TRYING, I LOVE THAT
SONG SO MUCH.
>> WHEN WE WON OUR FIRST GRAMMY
FOR "ROCK STEADY," I DIDN'T
REALIZE HOW EXCITED I WAS GOING
TO BE.
WHEN THEY SAID THE WINNER IS NO
DOUBT, I STARTED GOING -- YEAH!
>> EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT "ROCK
STEADY" RECORD WAS JUST SO
TRIUMPHANT AND SO BEAUTIFUL AND
IT WAS JUST SUCH A GREAT WAY TO
KIND OF PUT A CAP ON THESE YEARS
AS A BAND.
>> COMING UP --
>> I WAS SO SICK.
THERE WERE SONGS ON THE TOUR
THAT WOULD MAKE ME WANT TO THROW
>> WE USED TO GET LECTURED A
LONTH TIME AGO THAT OUR BAND
NEEDED TO FOCUS AND WE WERE NOT
GOOD AT FOCUSING.
WE WANTED TO COVER A LOT OF
GROUND AND PLAY MUSIC THAT WE
LIKED.
AFTER "ROCK STEADY," WE DECIDED
A GREATEST HITS RECORD.
RECORDED ONE NEW SONG.
"IT'S MY LIFE," WHICH WAS A SONG
FROM THE '80'S BY A BAND CALLED
TALK TALK.
GREAT SONG.
I STILL HAVE THE CASSETTE
ACTUALLY.
♪ IT'S MY LIFE ♪
♪ DON'T YOU FORGET OH, IT'S MY
LIFE
>> IT'S EXACTLY THE RIGHT SONG
AND RIGHT TIME FOR WHAT WE WERE
GOING THROUGH AS A BAND.
♪
♪
>> AFTER WE TOURED THE SINGLE
COLLECTION, WE ALL REALIZED,
MAN, WE'RE BURNT.
WE HAVE DONE NOTHING ELSE BUT
THE BAND SINCE WE WERE
TEENAGERS.
>> IT FELT RIGHT TO LIKE STOP
FOR A MINUTE AND REFRESH
OURSELVES.
>> I ALREADY HAD MY SON AT THAT
POINT.
AND WE ALL FELT LIKE, THIS IS
HEALTHY.
LET'S DO THIS.
LET'S TAKE A BREAK.
>> SO MANY THINGS HAD CHANGED.
I BECAME A WIFE.
THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING BECAUSE
BEFORE THAT, I WAS MARRIED TO
THOSE GUYS.
THAT WAS MY BAND.
THERE WAS NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT
WAS OUR PASSION SOFMENT WHEN I
GOT MARRIED, THAT HAD TO CHANGE
BECAUSE YOUR HUSBAND HAD TO BE
YOUR NUMBER ONE THING OR IT'S
NEVER GOING TO WORK.
>> AS OUR LIVES TOOK DIFFERENT
PATHS FOR A WHILE, WE STILL HUNG
OUT.
>> WHOLE BAND WAS AT MY WEDDING
AND I STARTED A FAMILY.
IT WAS HUGE.
>> WE ALL, ONE MORE TIME WE WENT
THROUGH THIS GROWING UP PHASE.
>> THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS OF
THAT BREAK WERE REALLY INTENSE
FOR ME.
I WAS TRYING TO FIND MYSELF AND
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS
NEXT FOR ME.
>> IT WAS A GREAT TIME FOR ALL
OF US TO KIND OF GROW AS
MUSICIANS AND AS PEOPLE AND TO
GROW UP INDEPENDENTLY A LITTLE
BIT FROM THE BAND.
>> ALL OF THOSE MOMENTS OF JUST
LONGING TO BE BACK TOGETHER WITH
MY BAND MATES AND BE PLAYING
MUSIC TOGETHER, THAT WEIRD,
CHALLENGING TIME OF SOUL
SEARCHING AND FEELING LOST ALL
MAKES SENSE NOW.
IT HAD TO HAPPEN.
>> GWEN WANTED TO DO SOMETHING
SHE COULDN'T DO IN THE CONFINES
OF A ROCK BAND.
AND SHE TALKED TO US ABOUT IT
AND SAID I'M NOT LEAVING THE
BAND.
I WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT I
CAN ONLY DO ON MOIN AND WE WERE
COOL WITH IT.
>> I GOT REALLY INSPIRED.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A RECORD
BASED ON LIKE LISA LISA AND THE
CULT JAM.
LIKE THINGS THAT I GREW UP
LOÑE BECAUSE I REALLY
HAD TO STEP OUTSIDE OF MY WORLD
AND IT WAS SO INTIMIDATING.
BUT THE RECORD CAME OUT AND IT
WAS AMAZING.
>> "THE ANGEL" WAS A HUGE HIT.
HIT SINGLES RIGHT OUT OF THE
GATE AND NOW SUDDENLY GWEN
STEFANI IS A SOLO STAR.
>> RIGHT WHEN I'M ABOUT READY TO
GO ON TOUR I GET PREGNANT WITH
MY FIRST BABY, WHICH WAS LIKE,
IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN PREGNANT
BEFORE, IT'S A BIG DEAL.
YOU'RE LIKE OH, MY GOSH, YOUR
WHOLE BODY IS CHANGING.
MY FIRST SOLO TOUR WITHOUT MY
BAND HAVE I BEEN WITH SINCE I'M
A KID.
I'M WITH GIRLS I BARELY KNOW AND
NINE COSTUME CHANGES.
I NEVER EVEN DID COSTUME CHANGES
BEFORE.
I HAD ALL OF THESE THINGS GOING
ON.
I WAS SO SICK.
LIKE THERE WAS WERE SONGS ON THE
BOOKS WITH ALL OF THE IDEAS AND
WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO DO.
SHE'S GOT SUCH A WEALTH OF
IDEAS, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
>> I CAME HOME, HAD THE BABY AND
I JUST FELT LIKE I GOT CUT OFF
SHORT BECAUSE I GOT PREGNANT.
AND I STILL HAD MORE IN ME.
LIKE I HAD ALL OF THESE SONGS
LEFT OVER FROM THE LAST RECORD.
SO THAT'S WHEN I DECIDED I WILL
DO THIS GOOD ESCAPE.
>> GWEN WAS KILLING IT WHEN THE
SONGS WERE COMING OUT.
IT WAS PUTTING HER INTO THIS
THE SHOW SHE WOULD ALWAYS SAY NO
DOUBT RECORD COMING UP NEXT AND
THE CROWD WAS LIKE -- YEAH!
>> IT'S REALLY GOOD.
>> I'M IN THE REALLY THE
EMOTIONAL DISPLAYER.
INSIDE I'M LIKE --
ENCORE.
♪
♪ I'M JUST A GIRL ♪
>> MAN, I WAS GETTING CHOKED UP.
I COULDN'T EVEN REALLY PLAY
BECAUSE IT WAS JUST SO INTENSE.
>> SURPRISE!
>> THAT FEELING OF BEING
TOGETHER ON STAGE AGAIN WAS
INCREDIBLE.
I THINK WE ALL JUST SAID OK,
HERE WE GO.
IT'S TIME NOW.
>> COMING UP --
>> WE ALL REALIZED QUICKLY LIKE
WE CAN'T BE A GOOD PARENT IF
WE'RE IN THE STUDIO 12 HOURS A
DAY.
>> WHEN WE'RE ON STAGE, WE ARE
IN OUR TRUE ELEMENT.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE SHINE.
♪
>> GWEN HAS THE CHARISMA OF
10,000 PEOPLE.
TONY, HE'S GOT SOME OF THE
SILLIEST DANCES.
TOM IS KING OF THE SCISSOR
DANCE.
THAT MIGHT BE A TOM DUMONT
ORIGINAL.
ADRIAN IS ALWAYS SUPER HIGH
ENERGY.
JUST DIGGING IN AND MAKING
FACES.
GABE HAS ONE HAND ON THE
KEYBOARD SINGING AND I'M JUST
ACTING LIKE AN IDIOT.
>> WE REALLY TRIED IN 2008 TO
START WRITING THIS NEW ALBUM.
GWEN HAD COME OVER IF HER SOLO
TOURS AND HAD BEEN PREGNANT THE
WITH ZUMA.
WE WERE THINKING FROM A PLANNING
STANDPOINT WRITE THE ALBUM WHILE
GWEN'S PREGNANT.
SO THAT YEAR WE GOT TOGETHER A
LOT BUT NOTHING JELLED.
NOTHING FELT RIGHT.
>> I FELT LIKE I WAS REALLY
DEPLETED.
THERE WAS A POINT WHERE I
COULDN'T SING IN FRONT OF THE
GUYS.
I WOULD BE EMBARRASSED.
EVERYTHING I WAS DOING JUST
SOUNDED TERRIBLE.
THAT'S WHEN WE DECIDED TO GO ON
TOUR AND GET INSPIRED.
>> ONE THING THAT WAS UNIQUELY
DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT TOUR IN
2009, WE HAD OUR FAMILIES WITH
US.
>> IT WAS REALLY AMAZING TO BE
ON TOUR TON HAVE MY TWO BABIES
ON THE SIDE OF THE STAGE
WATCHING ME AND JUST SEE HOW MY
LIFE HAS DEVELOPED SO MUCH, SO
MANY OF MY DREAMS HAVE COME
TRUE.
>> END UP BEING THE BIGGEST TOUR
WE EVER DONE, THAT FEELING CAME
BACK AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEEDED
TO GIVE US THAT ENERGY TO GO
BACK IN THE STUDIO.
WE KNEW THAT WE HAVE SUCH
INCREDIBLE FANS THEY WERE GOING
TO BE PATIENT AND LET US DO OUR
PROCESS.
[APPLAUSE]
>> "PUSH AND SHOVE" IS A
REFLECTION HONESTLY OF WHO WE
ARE AT THIS POINT IN OUR LIVES,
WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO BALANCE
BEING PARENTS NOW WITH BEING
ROCK STARS AND MUSICIANS.
♪ YOU PUSH AND SHOVE
I TAKE THE BAIT ♪
>> IT WAS REALLY HARD BECAUSE OF
OUR LIFESTYLE NOW WITH THE KIDS.
I DOPE GO HOME AT THE WRITE AND
WRITE SONGS IN MY JOURNAL.
I'M UP WITH THE KIDS LIKE ALL
NIGHT LONG.
I COME TO THE STUDIO AND HAVE
THIS LIKE WINDOW OF TIME TO
WRITE SONGS.
SELF-INDULGENCE.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT
ANYMORE.
>> STRUGGLING FOR THAT BALANCE
IS LIKE THE PUSH AND SHOVE OF
THE ALBUM.
WE ALL REALIZED QUICKLY, WE
CAN'T BE A GOOD PARENT IF WE'RE
IN THE STUDIO 12 HOURS A DAY.
THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF WHY THE
ALBUM TOOK A WHILE.
>> I THINK IT HELPED TO HAVE
THAT ANGST LIKE HAVING TO BE
LIKE OH, MY GOD, THIS IS NEVER
GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE HAD TO REALLY FIGHT FOR IT
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MADE IT
GREAT.
>> WHEN YOU HEAR IT, YOU'RE
BEARING YOUR SOUL TO THE WORLD.
THE ALBUM SHOULD MOVE PEOPLE AND
TOUCH PEOPLE.
>> I THINK THE SONG FOR EVERYONE
ON THAT RECORD.
♪ GET IN LINE ♪
>> WHEN I WROTE "SETTLE DOWN" I
WAS LIKE OH, THE NEW MACARENA.
AWESOME.
EVERYONE'S EXCITED ABOUT IT AND
PEOPLE SEEMED TO LIKE IT.
REALLY?
IT FEELS BRINGS ME TO THAT MOM,
THAT'S THE REWARD FOR ME.
>> TO SEE HOW THESE SONGS TAKE
SHAPE ON A LIVE STAGE IS A
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING THEN
WRITING AND RECORDING THEM IN
THE STUDIO.
>> I'M SO EXCITED TO PLAY THESE
NEW SONGS.
>> COMING UP --
>> FROM WHEN I WAS A REALLY
LITTLE GIRL, I THOUGHT I WANT TO
GET MARRIED AND BE A MOM.
[CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY
COMCAST ENTERTAINMENT GROUP]
>> THERE ARE ONLY THREE OTHER
PEOPLE IN MY LIFE THAT HAS THE
SAME EXPERIENCES AS ME GARKS
WENT, TOM AND ADRIAN.
AND TO NOW SHARE THIS NEW
EXPERIENCE OF RAISING A FAMILY
ALL TOGETHER IS PRETTY AWESOME.
AFTER BEING TOGETHER FOR 26
YEARS.
>> FROM WHEN I WAS REALLY A
LITTLE GIRL, I ALWAYS THOUGHT I
WANT TO GET MARRIED AND BE A
MOM.
NOW THAT I AM I MOM, NOBODY TOLD
ME HOW HARD IT WAS GOING TO BE.
THEY NEED YOU SO MUCH.
AND EVERY STAGE THAT THEY GROW,
A NEW AMAZING THING AND NEW
PROBLEMS AND IT'S A LOT.
I ENJOY MY TIME WITH THEM.
I REALLY, REALLY HAVE FUN.
>> SHE TREATS THEM AS IF THEY'RE
LITTLE PRINCES AND SHE DOES
EVERYTHING SHE CAN POSSIBLY DO
TO MAKE THEM SMILE EVERY DAY.
>> I COULDN'T PREDICT THAT I
WOULD HAVE TWO BOYS.
BOYS THAT BEAT EACH OTHER 3+
>> WE DO HAVE PRETTY NORMAL
LIVES.
LIKE MY KIDS HELP ME TAKE OUT
THE TRASH AND DO LAUNDRY.
WE GET TO TRAVEL.
IT ISN'T ABOUT THE MOST UNUSUAL
THING.
I IMAGINE WE ALL AGREE IN THE
BAND, I WANT MY KIDS TO GROW UP
AS NORMAL AS POSSIBLE.
THERE'S NO ROOM FOR SUCKY DADS.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE BEST
AT, BEING A DAD.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING I'M PROUD
OF, MY BAND MATES ARE ALL REALLY
GOOD PARENTS AND WE ALL
BENEFITED FROM HAVING REALLY
GOOD BENEFITS.
MAYBE THAT'S PART OF THE REASON
WE HAVEN'T BECOME DERELICTS AND
[BLEEP] UPS.
THANKS, PARENTS.
>> BECOMING A FATHER WAS THE
BEST THANGE EVER HAPPENED TO ME.
I HAD SO MANY INCREDIBLE
EXPERIENCES IN MY LIFE .uJU)H"O
SOME TV SHOWS AND I TOOK MY WIFE
AND DAUGHTER AND WE'RE SUPER
HIGH UP IN OUR HOTEL ROOM TO
WATCH MY 18-MONTH-OLD DAUGHTER
LIKE CLIMB ON THE WINDOWS AND
LOOK OUT AND DISCOVER NEW YORK
FOR THE FIRST TIME.
JUST REALLY PUT THINGS IN
PERSPECTIVE.
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
♪ YOU AND ME WE USED TO BE
TOGETHER
EVERY DAY TOGETHER
ALWAYS ♪
>> WHEN I THINK BACK TO ALL OF
THE DIFFERENT STUFF THAT
HAPPENED IN THIS BAND, IT FEELS
LIKE I'M MAKING IT UP.
IT'S SO DRAMATIC AND EXTREME.
THE LONGEVITY OF NO DOUBT IS
UNEXPLAINABLE.
THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN GOING ON
FOR SO LONG DOESN'T FEEL REAL.
WE'RE LIKE THE LAST BAND IN THE
WORLD THAT WOULD EVER MAKE IT.
WE WERE JUST DOING THE OPPOSITE
OF WHAT WAS POPULAR, SO IT
DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
WE'RE FOOLING EVERYONE.
♪
>> WE SOMEHOW MANAGED TO STAY
REALLY TIGHT FRIENDS AFTER ALL
OF THESE YEARS.
I WOULD BE LYING IF I SAID IT
WAS EASY AND I'M REALLY, REALLY
PROUD OF ALL OF US FOR
PERSEVERING.
>> IT'S AMAZING WE HAVE COME
THIS FAR AND TR6 C13+
>> TO BE AT THIS POINT AND LOOK
♪
>> IT'S REALLY HARD TO TAKE IN
THE SUCCESS OR THE FACT THAT THE
MUSIC THAT WE MADE REALLY HAD
ANY IMPACT BECAUSE IT'S NOT REAL
TO US.
WE CAN'T BELIEVE HOW POWERFUL
MUSIC IS.
IT'S JUST A GIFT.
IT'S HARD TO REALLY LIKE LET IT
SINK IN.
THIS REALLY HAPPENED.
SOMEONE CHOSE ME.
I'M JUST A GIRL FROM ORANGE
COUNTY.
I'M JUST A REGULAR, NORMAL LIKE
REGULAR PERSON.