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Light Body Mastery: Living Your Light as a Healing Doctor
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Jai Radha:>> Hello, Everyone, and thank you for joining us for another episode of LivinÕ
Your Light and Lovin ItÕ Pillai Center. We are doing our weekly Hangouts. Today, I have
with me a special guest--her name is Dr. Sarah Lane. She is the President of Mountain AssociatesÉis
that what it is, Mountain Associates?
Dr. Lane:>> Montana
Jai Radha:>> Montana!
Dr. Lane:>> Montana Naturopathic Physicians.
Jai Radha:>> There you go. Thank you so much for joining us, Dr. Lane. So, first just please
tell us a little bit about your practice. Tell us what you doÑhow do you help people?
Dr. Lane:>> So, I am a naturopathic physician, which isÉour basic philosophy isÑhealing
people and addressing underlying causes and addressing the whole body, versus treating
symptoms. I have been a naturopath for 25 years and I went to John Bastyr College in
Seattle. And I started practicing in integrated medical practice for a couple of years after
that. And a few years later, I moved to Montana where I basically had a family practice, type
of practice.
So, we address all illnesses and all kinds of problems. And itÕs very rewarding because
we can get people better and I have just seen a lot of wonderful healing for people and
thatÕs my passionÑas more taking them out of diseases and taking them away from places
where they have been told theyÕll have something forever. And they donÕt have to. And I guess
the basic difference in naturopathy, one of the biggest parts is, of course, our medicinesÑherbal
medicine, nutritional medicine, homeopathic medicine, physical medicine. Diet, of course,
is diet advice and talk about lifestyle and stress. Ad put that all together to tell people,
or help them, guide them, because theyÕll do what they are going to do what they want
to do, anyway. To make a plan to get better.
Jai Radha:>> Revitalize their life force, basically. And re-balance who they are.
Dr. Lane:>> That, often, is what they need becauseÑthis is hard to sayÑAmerica is a
type ÔAÕ society and everybody is stressed and lives like they have to accomplish so
much. So, nobody is letting down, nobody is relaxing, nobody is getting in the parasympatheticÑeven
more astounding, 18-year-olds and 25-year-olds coming in with adrenal fatigue. It shouldnÕt
be that way. They should not be so tired by that age. Their hormones are affected. So,
you see this a lot.
Jai Radha:>> Right. So, tell us a little bitÑyouÕve been interested in spirituality, so how long,
what have you been doing.
Dr. Lane:>> I think that I became aware of spirituality as something I wanted in my life
when I was living in Seattle. And there were a lot of Tibetan Buddhists around and BuddhismÑI
was drawn to Buddhism. At some point, I became involved with a Sufi,
which was really fun and rewarding. I loved that time. And then that teacher sort of retired
and I moved to Montana. I had my own mix and make-up of what was spiritual for me without
a teacher, without a guru. And at some point way later, like three years ago, I decided
that I wanted to find a teacher. And somebody said, ÒWellÉask,Ó and I started asking
and at some point I found the Path of MiraclesÑI think I had looked at Vedic Astrology to get
a take on life and another aspect and got to Pillai Center, joined the Path of Miracles
and started doing these meditations. And everything was foreign to meÑI donÕt know these words,
I donÕt know. But I am doing that in the Path of Miracles, of course, I had great guidance
for positive thinking and how to change your life. And then came a time when a friend and
I knew we wanted to go to IndiaÑit just seemed the next thing. I had been to Tibet, a couple
of years before. Then I wanted to be with a spiritual teacher and it hadnÕt worked
outÑit became more of a track. And I knew I wanted to be with a spiritual guide to go
deeper. And it was a good time astrologically for me to go to India and then, since I knew
Pillai Center, I was checking on tripsÑchecking on trips. And all of a sudden one popped up
for February and that was three years ago. It was my birthday, too, so I was like: This
is going to be good. I donÕt know whatÑbut itÕs going to be right. And that was the
first trip and the first time I met Dr. Pillai, Baba.
Jai Radha:>> Oh wow. So, you arrived in India, that trip and you were totally new to the
experience. And I knowÑwe roomed together. I didnÕt know you, you didnÕt know me. It
was really random. It was a great trip--it was his birthday trip. So, tell us what happenedÑwhat
significant occurrence happened to you during that trip. I always say, first these trips
are incredible, but first India trips really put you on the map in terms of transformation.
So, let us know what happened to you there.
Dr. Lane:>> Jai Radha, can I say that I canÕt hear you all that well. If you could be just
a bit louder.
Jai Radha:>> OK.
Dr. Lane:>> Thanks. But I got that. So, yeah, that India trip was very interesting. I had
the liberty, I feel like I had the liberty of being a traveler, at first sight, no responsibilities
because I didnÕt know what I was supposed to do and the teacher. Do you know, kind of
like when you travel and you are free of all the social expectations. But stuff started
happening and meeting peopleÑand they have these Egyptian names and Hindu names and they
are hard to remember. We are going to places and people are amazingÑlike I can tell there
is something going on. One day we are sitting in a seminarÑI think it was in Varanasi,
no, it was this city beforeÑwe are in seminar with Baba and I think I was having a very
large difficulty focusing and concentratingÑmy mind was doing, ÔDa da da,Õ and all of a
sudden a bolt of white light shot and hit right on the right side of my headÑpure white
light [sound]. And I got a message. I guess IÕll tell you the messageÑit was, ÒIf you
act exclusive, you are going to be excluded.Ó So it was a neat play on words and for me
I felt, I felt a little heart broken likeÑI am really blowing it here. So, I went down
into on an old pattern which wasÑI canÕt do this and I should leave. And when we were
rooming together, you were like, ÒIs something going on?Ó And I told you and you invited
me to stay, which was a huge change and a very meaningful, deep offering. And there
was another event the next day that singled that it was the right thing to stay. And I,
you know, stayed with the trip and went with what was going on and the ride and of course
it was very, very powerful to be in BabaÕs presence. But I didnÕt know what it meant
to be in his presence. I didnÕt know how to look at him. It just felt a little unknown.
Jai Radha:>> Did anything happen after that, that amazing experience when the light hit
you and you received that message. How did your life change after that, in general, during
the trip and afterwards?
Dr. Lane:>> I think the biggest was I wanted more. I want to learn as much as I can. I
want to get rid of all my staff that is in the way of accessing purity, gods, goddesses.
So, I signed up, I think it was Quantum Mind, right?
Jai Radha:>> Yeah.
Dr. Lane:>> Find out for Quantum Mind, the sound technology sounded really amazing. And
I also did the Hanuman Das program. So, I started a process of, can we say, karma cleansing?
Or clearing ÔgarbageÕ and a lot of old patterns got to change and it was a rocky ride. It
wasnÕt like sweet and beautiful. It was really looking at stuff and seeing it go. But feeling
badÑat the same time a new thing would come along, a new light. Ultimately, now two years
later, after a Light Body I can say I have a ton more clarity and self-confidence. And
IÕm able to recognize our accessÑsomething that has been there all alongÑthere is more
to that storyÑI think weÕll get to.
Jai Radha:>> Yeah, yeah, definitely. So, I wanna mention how significant, I think, your
message isÑthe message that you received with the light. And had mentioned to me earlier
that you were kind of dodging BabaÕs energy during the trip.
Dr. Lane:>> Right.
Jai Radha:>> He kind of brought it to your face as a master does. You know, we come to
masters when we are seeking something and they give us what we ask, right? So, you came
to him to askÑyou said, you know, you asked for a teacher. And he arrived and here he
is giving you the message that you need to hear, which I think itÕs a significance message
that a lot of us need to hear: ÒIf you act exclusive, then you will be excluded.Ó How
many times does each of us put up walls of fear and doubt and avoidance in our lives.
So many times. Then that exclusivity, that exclusive nature comes whenÉDr. Pillai keeps
saying, he mentioned recently, in the past couple of months his message was how we are
love and our purpose is love and to be unified. Through that unity we experience our true
self and the divine. So, what a beautiful message that you received on your first India
trip. And then you were really on fast path, after that, to learning in the Quantum Mind
Program, the AP, Advisory Program and then Light Body Program. So, I want to acknowledge
you for joining the Light Body Program last year when you had known Dr. Pillai only for
a year and you really put yourself into it. So, what changed since then? Because that
has been to date his most intensive program yet.
Dr. Lane:>> Wow. I want to backtrack just a little bit because in the previous year
I moved to my house, I moved to a new house--I moved to a new location, went back to work.
So, a lot had already happened. And the Light Body ProgramÑI am able to, I feel accessed
magic. So, the gods and goddesses, they feel more real, occasionally hearing messagesÑknowing
that other dimension is very close. I feel I have a lot more to learn, the ability to
increase so I can access more. I love the midbrain part and actually it was part of
the Midbrain Miracle--that free seminar that you put on a Saturday--where you can access
your midbrain, you can manifest anything. And itÕs so powerful to focus in there and
I love having a place to focus, a place to return to during my workday. When I think
of it: in life a place of bringing the light and remember to come from the third eye---those
are very powerful. And I think that we are learning amazing things. Like you said and
Baba saysÑthese are things you used to have to be a Siddha master to learn. And I feel
that the world is changing so much. I hear the quantum physicist Amit GoswamiÑI think
a lot of people know himÑhe was in ÒWhat the BleepÓ and he is saying similar things
to what Baba is saying. And you just hear more and more the synchronicity of the similar
message likeÑmore people are going to accomplish things right now.
Jai Radha:>> Yeah, yeah, everything is spread up in terms of the light we are receiving
and how everybody is evolvingÑand itÕs definitely BabaÕs message, also. OK, so you joined this
program last year and you had previously told me, actually, that before you met Dr. Pillai
you had closed your practice and you were kind of burned out. And you were just trying
to work with symptoms, kind of giving up goals and that. And now you are on a whole new track,
right? So, do you want to tell us about that or you want to talk about India first? Your
second trip to India.
Dr. Lane:>> I will tell you about my history with my practice. There was a fire at the
building my office was in. My whole entire office burned to the ground and I never got
to go back to it again. I lost everythingÑthe whole pharmacy, the whole equipment. And it
was quite shocking. And rather than stop I just kind of carried on. A lot of people called
to give me office space offers. So, I took a space and moved in. But before that I had
this thought: I was tired of handing people pills. It seemed ridiculous to hand bottles
of vitamins and nutrients and pills! And then I lost my pharmacy and I couldnÕt. So, I
was in a new space, I was in a very small officeÑI had no pharmacy and none of my supplements.
And I thought: What can I give this person? And it really began very simple. I really
could just one herb--for example--and that would work. And gradually I, actually, started
to get a little tired of what I was doing and I decided I wanted to give a bigger message
to people and thought I would writeÑget articles in the newspapers and write. And I closed
my practice and set out to just consult--tell you where you can go and all the great services
and techniques and people that are available. But I donÕt want to give and manage a medical
case. And then I went to India--first tripÑand Baba asked what I did and he said: ÒGo back
to work.Ó And I, ÒOh ok.Ó
So, I got that message again in the Advisory Program and they pretty much confirmed that,
you know, this is my path to do healing work and get back to it. And as all of the of the
burden that had been within me cleared, IÕm now really inspired again and I have plans
for new office, clinic healing type of setup. I am really inspired with patients because
I can offer more clarity, moreÉthings come easierÑthe organization of their treatment
plan comes easier. IÕm able toÉfeels like I lift them to a higher place because I have
confidence that there is a better placeÑand that is really what I wanted from Dr. Pillai
when I started going to his website and that is what I said to myself: I know he has the
answers and I have questions. [Laughs].
Jai Radha:>> That is interesting. So, you are a medical doctor, here you are, you know,
wanting to treat people and you know that there is limited, probably, access to what
you haveÑwhatÕs, you know in the world and also internally. You know, depending on our
level of clarity we have access to so much of that intelligence. You recognized that
he could give you that answer for help and for helping your patients and probably also
for you. Right?
Dr. Lane:>> True.
Jai Radha:>> So, that was interesting. ThatÕs just an innate thing when you didnÕt even
meet him yet.
Dr. Lane:>> Right. I had hoped, one day, to have a conversation likeÑgosh I hope I can
meet the Dalai Lama, too. I mean, letÕs have a conversationÑI feel I have good ideas.
[Laughs]. But, you know, a big interest is this cancer phenomenon. And I told you a little
bit about that and I feel that there are answers about cancer: what is it; why is it here so
much. I innately feel that we can heal it. I have seen it and studied it and looked enough
at healers, doctors who are curing stage-four cancer. But what happens is fear. In the American
medical model cancer equals fear. And I feel deeply upset with this and I see a lot of
unnecessary torture and heavy, intense treatments. And I know there is a mix, a reason for everything,
but I also see that there is another way. And this path of enlightenment, LBP, is all
building blocks to knowing that healing ability of people. And hopefully being able to impart
that to people.
Jai Radha:>> Yeah, I think thatÕs really thatÕs really significant, what you just
said. Light Body Program, Dr. PillaiÕs methodology is a healing path, you know, on so many levels.
And I think thatÕs what we have been talking about in the Light Body Program in the different
interviews that I have been doing and so many times itÕs misinterpreted. People are like,
ÒI donÕt want to turn into light. I still have a need for material things. And now we
are getting the perspective from you as a method of healing, because on so many levels:
the body we need healing, the mind we need healing and then the spirit. The remedies
that are done for youÑall of the things that are off kilter, right? Disease is lack of
ease. When the ease of light is not flowing through us we are off. And these programs
help to rebalance that on all the different levels. From my perspective, when I see people
in the program the energy flows through them in their own patternÑwe all have our own
pattern that comes through. We recognize that itÕs part of the brain, that the brain is
like a switchboard and the light comes through it and it affects us differently based on
our makeup. And thatÕs why he is so interested in the brain recently. When he said I was
like: Oh I get it. I finally get brain the whole brain thing. That is actually, because
thatÕs how we are wired, you know, as physical human beings and thatÕs how the light can
affect us. So to hear from you about the perspective of, you know, the light body being really
a path of healing on many levels that resonated and I hope that people understand that, too,
the way we rebalance and we connect with our divine self, because the diseases in the body
can heal, the mind and the freedom of the spirit, the release of the karmic influences
and influences from the ancestors and the planets, in past lives. All that can be healed.
So, thank you for bringing that up. I think itÕs really significant for people to be
able to understand.
Dr. Lane:>> I think itÕs so beautiful what you said, thatÕs so great because I hadnÕt
realized, I hadnÕt thought of as a healing for myself so much, but IÕm also seeing that
the healing for myself had to happen and it did and it does still. Another thing you said
about how the light goes through each person in a different pattern. My question would
be is there one pattern that it should a pure pattern that hits is the negative thoughts,
the pains, the somaticized emotions. And the light will go through there and free that
up and then the organ functions better. And there is more life flow and there is more
health.
Jai Radha:>> I can see that.
Dr. Lane:>> Cool. And we talked a little bit about homeopathy yesterday, homeopathic medicines,
in my view, work that way, because they are given that way and they stimulate the vital
forceÑthe vital force being whatÕs there when you are alive and whatÕs gone when you
are dead. The homeopathic medicine is kind of like a holographic pattern and it hits
your pattern and stimulates your vital force and wheels start to turn and your symptoms
start to change and start to go away. So, it seems similar. I just wanted to just mention,
there was a German doctor, Dr. Hahnemann. And at some point I started thinking: IsnÕt
that funny, Dr. Hahnemann discovered homeopathy which is the weirdest medicine. People donÕt
understand it and how it works. ItÕs [expletive] by the AMA as total placebo effect. I thought,
maybe Hanuman must have gifted Hahnemann. ItÕs a funny little thing.
Jai Radha:>> Yeah, thatÕs kind of cool. Hanuman is representative, according to Baba, of the
way we can evolve as humans. We can evolve into our God self and higher consciousness
as Hanuman had done it. And the trip that you and I were on was, we went to HanumanÕs
country and experienced that, too. So, tell us a little bit how the light body program
and experiences with Dr. Pillai has helped your practice and ultimately the patients
that you are helping also.
Dr. Lane:>> I think itÕs very clear that I have more clarity for them and I have more
confidence that they can go to another level. I knew that before, but I think itÕs more
empowered. Like it comes through as something that they can really accomplishÑthere is
no doubt.
Jai Radha:>> You believe it now.
Dr. Lane:>> Yes. And I know there is more, even more. So, here we go. Keep going. Re-aspiring
to build something up thatÕs going to be a focus of a new treatment. They are all put
together using a very old-fashioned homeopathic treatment called hydrotherapy. And I decided
to focus on a segment of treatment, I think, and this was actually from the Light Body
trip to India. When I got home that very night, I felt that I had like a download. I felt
a stream came into my head and I was seeing this vision of this beautiful clinic kind
of based on old Roman baths with columns, which sounded like my own patent. So, IÕll
steal it. I will create something like this. And I was totally, either doing the sky meditation
or the ÔAÕ ÔIÕ and still was home from India and all that energy, all the Vishnu
temples, Rameshwaram, everything. You know, I was very, very sick, but I didnÕt want
to lose the beauty either.
Jai Radha:>> Yeah, it was a really intensive trip. So, I think thatÕs interesting. So,
prior to meeting Dr. Pillai youÕre getting burned out from your practice. Your building
literally burns down. You find Dr. Pillai and you start on this path, start doing the
practices, you go to India, your life changes. You have an awakening about things and this
year in the Light Body Program, coming out of the Light Body trip, the India trip, which
was the last real segment of the program itself, you have this all new life, really. And before
you had mentioned how you started to do the writing, kind of stopped doing the individual
consultations because you wanted something bigger. You knew there was a bigger message,
something bigger for you to do. And you knew that in your heart, because it was true, right?
And now this is all materializing, three years later, that you had the vision and we know
you will accomplish this and have this method for people to heal on so many levels. So,
congratulations. I think thatÕs really a greatÉI want to acknowledge you for your
journey and bringing all this live and weÕll connect with you when itÕs up and running,
so the people will go there and start experiencing it. So, letÕs talk a little bit about your
India trip. And then we will wrap it up. So, you went on your second India trip in February.
And then what happened from there?
Dr. Lane:>> The second trip was a long one and there were lots of meditations and amazing
experiences at temples. But I have to say, it all culminated into getting very, very
sick pretty close to the end of the trip. After Rameshwaram, the karma removal city,
I guess I got the extreme, fast-track, super-triple, karma-removal illness and that was a ride.
It kind of just changed my whole reality where my only reality was my physical body was really
sick. And I actually missed the very end of the trip. But I was too sick to care. And
we were in one of the cities having lunch and I got the option to fly back to Chennai
rather than finish the bus trip. And I did and Baba walked out. And I said, ÒOh, Baba,Ó
and he turned to me and I just blurted out, Ònext time I come I want to get a name.Ó
And he stopped and he said, ÒI will give it to you now.Ó And IÕm like, ÒGreat, maybe
that will make me feel better.Ó I also have to remark that so many times I tried to talk
to Baba and he just dismissed me. He just did not connect. And this time I go, ÒOh
Baba,Ó and so at that moment, in the hotel I heard the name. It sounded like Amrita,
in Hindu is Amrutha, which is the divine elixir of not dying. The word just flew out of my
head. ImmortalityÑthe divine elixir of immortality secreted by the pineal gland and I thought
thatÕs a really powerful name and I went off with that. And someone told me that you
should write it 108 times. So, I was doing that for a while. And anyway, the name became
kind of a center core to make me remember something that I feel I knew this whole time.
And enhances my healing path. Not to mention I feel I have been very honored and I now
IÕm connected with Baba and a huge sense of surrender and thanks and grace. So that
was very powerful.
Jai Radha:>> Names are incredibly powerful. And so, I think your transformation over the
period of these two or three years you were dodging him to, wow, I can have a name, and
he responding with such love and generosity because you were open to him now. And itÕs
our path like when we open to him, when we take one step forward, he takes one thousand
steps. And thatÕs my experience. And it has been the experience of so many other people.
So when you were back in the room, after giving up exclusivity, having a hard time, now you
are open. The energy flows to you: ÒHey, Baba.Ó ThatÕs something that you would have
never said, right?
Dr. Lane:>> Right. I thought you had to behave a certain way. I guess you just have to be
yourself.
Jai Radha:>> And behave ourselves with respect, of course. And you didnÕt do anything, you
know, disrespectful.
Dr. Lane:>> Oh God.
Jai Radha:>> [Laughs] So, I think he listens when we are open to him, he is so open to
us. And thatÕs the doorway, to me thatÕs the doorway to connecting to the Master. I
studied with another teacher years before meeting Dr. Pillai. And he said, ÒItÕs love
that makes the transmission work.Ó Our love, to their love is what makes the transmission
of our Master to student effective. So, congratulations. It sounds like you found the key of that love
and are strengthening your connection to Dr. Pillai and miracles are occurring and miracles
are happening. So, thank you so much for sharing your journey with us. I know itÕs always
a sacred journey when, you know, we all go through it. And I love hearing people sharing
with others what that looked like.
Dr. Lane:>> Many thanks to you and all the teachers and everybody, all the students who
really makeÉyou know, itÕs all part of the experience and uplifting and the incredible
program. And I would share that sometimes I feel that deeply, IÕm so moved and I thank
everybody.
Jai Radha:>> Oh, thank you. ItÕs an honor. I know all of us feel that way. You said something
that I wanted to touch upon with the Light Body Program II. And the Light Body program
that has been last yearÑthe love. I just feel that this love and adoration for one
another. You can feel it on the calls. The Facebook group that we have--have you experienced
that?
Dr. Lane:>> For me itÕs been a gradual opening. I think itÕs like what you said, when you
are open, but you know? ItÕs a process. I think the walls, the defenses, the old patterns
gradually go wayÑthank God. When that happens, there is more love to access. So, itÕs been
a process and IÕm really, really appreciative of it and IÕm so glad that I get to feel
it more now.
Jai Radha:>> Yeah, yeah. ItÕs an opening process. And thatÕs part of the community,
thatÕs part of the program. He [Dr. Pillai] had wanted us to work together and call every
weekend, or every week to meditate together and connect, because our love for one another
and our connectedness is important. The group, you know, magnifies the meditation in our
being together.
Dr. Lane:>> Yeah, you start to feel that. When I think of others the light expands.
And I really look forward to having that as a pattern, every weekend. Yeah.
Jai Radha:>> Well, we are starting next weekend
Dr. Lane:>> Yay.
Jai Radha:>> So, reminder for those of you who still want to join, the program is open
and we start next weekend with a live call with Dr. PillaiÑwebcast, actually, with Dr.
Pillai. And also for those watching now, we have a live Hangout with Dr. Pillai tomorrow
at 7 AM Pacific Time. So, just tune in at the same place you are at right nowÑYouTube
channel. Thank you, Dr. Lane, Amrutha, for being with us. It has been an honor and a
pleasure to talk with you. And thank you for sharing your story and your love with us.
Dr. Lane:>> Thank you so much, Jai Radha.
Jai Radha:>> YouÕre welcome. So thanks, Everyone, for joining. We will see you again next weekend.
Every week, at 8 AM pacific Time, we connect we will talk to you soon. Namaste.