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>>> PRESENTATION OF "DIALOGUE"
ON IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION IS
MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH THE
GENEROUS SUPPORT OF THE LAURA
MOORE CUNNINGHAM FOUNDATION.
COMMITTED TO FULFILLING THE
MOORE FAMILY'S LEGACY OF
BUILDING THE GREAT STATE OF
IDAHO.
>>> COMING UP, IT WAS ONE OF THE
MOST COVETED TICKETS IN IDAHO IN
2013 --
THE CHANCE TO BE ON "ANTIQUES
ROADSHOW."
IN A MOMENT, ROAD SHOW EXECUTIVE
PRODUCER MARSHA BEMKO TELLS US
WHY THE SHOWS FROM BOISE WILL
LEAD OFF THE 18th SEASON OF
THE BLOCKBUSTER SERIES ON PBS,
AND YOU'LL GET YOUR FIRST LOOK
AT SOME OF THE BRœÿDER SCHWEIGEN
FINTDS FROM THE GEM STATE.
THAT'S "DIALOGUE," NEXT.
STAY TUNED.
>> THIS TIME MY HUSBAND HAD ME
BRING BECAUSE HE HAD GOTTEN A
$20 OFFER FOR IT, AND HE SHOULD
HAVE TAKEN IT BECAUSE IT WAS
ONLY WORTH $15.
>> I BROUGHT THIS THINKING IT
WAS WORTH A LOT OF MONEY.
AND IT WAS MADE IN JAPAN, AND IT
IS WORTH $25.
BUT I BROUGHT THIS, DIDN'T KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT THE AUTHOR, AND
FOUND OUT IT'S WORTH $2-300.
HOME RUN!
>> I BROUGHT THIS OLD VIOLIN, I
FOUND OUT IT'S WORTHLESS BUT I'M
SELLING IT IN MY YARD SALE
BEFORE THIS SHOW AIRS.
>> HELLO, WELCOME TO "DIALOGUE."
I'M MARCIA FRANKLIN.
YOU WERE JUST LISTENING TO THE
EXUBERANCE OF PEOPLE WHO WERE
LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET A TICKET TO
A TAPING OF "ANTIQUES ROADSHOW"
IN BOISE.
ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATED SHOWS
ON PBS, WITH UPWARDS OF
8 MILLION VIEWERS A WEEK, THE
ROADSHOW TOOK OVER EXPO IDAHO IN
JUNE 2013.
NEARLY 16,000 PEOPLE PUT THEIR
NAMES INTO A LOTTERY TO VIE FOR
THE 6,000 TICKETS AVAILABLE.
THOSE WHO SNAGGED A SPOT WERE
ABLE TO BRING TWO ITEMS FOR
APPRAISAL, WITH THE HOPE THEY'D
FIND OUT THEY WERE WORTH A LOT
MORE THAN THEY BOUGHT THEM FOR,
AND MAYBE EVEN MAKE IT ONTO TV.
THEY TRUNDLED IT ALL IN,
EVERYTHING FROM A CHINESE PARADE
LION, TO TOY CARS, FROM ANTIQUE
CLOCKS, TO STUFFED ANIMALS.
NOW THE THREE SHOWS TAPED IN
BOISE TURNED OUT SO WELL,
THEY'LL LEAD OFF THE 18th
SEASON OF THE SERIES.
AND HERE TO TELL US WHY WE MADE
HER A LIST AND GIVE US A SNEAK
PEEK AT SOME OF THE BEST FINDS
FROM THE BOISE TAPINGS IS THE
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF "ANTIQUES
ROADSHOW," MARSHA BEMKO.
MARSHA'S BEEN AT THE HELM OF THE
ROADSHOW FOR 14 OF ITS 18
SEASONS.
WELCOME BACK TO BOISE.
>> IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE.
>> AND YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING
ABOUT THIS, THE 20 SEASONS OF
"DIALOGUE" I DON'T THINK I'VE
EVER INTERVIEWED ANOTHER MARSHA.
>> ONLY WE SPELL IT DIFFERENTLY.
>> AND I'LL SAY YOURS IS THE
CORRECT SPELLING.
JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE MY GUEST.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ON ITS WAY
TO BECOMING AN ANTIQUE NAME.
THE CENSUS BUREAU SAYS THE LAST
TIME WE EVEN HIT THE TOP HUNDRED
NAMES WAS BACK IN 1950.
>> IF I COULD CHANGE MY NAME I
WOULD, BUT I'M STUCK WITH IT
NOW.
[LAUGHTER]
>> SAME HERE.
MAYBE THERE WILL BE A REVIVAL
AND IT WILL GET POPULAR AGAIN.
BACK TO BOISE, AS I UNDERSTAND
IT, OUR MANAGEMENT WAS NAGGING
YOU FOR QUITE SOME TIME TO SEE
IF YOU COULD COME OUT HERE.
>> WELL, YES.
I WOULD SAY RON, WHO IS THE HEAD
OF THE STATION NOW, WAS A BIT OF
A NAG.
BUT A FRIENDLY NAG.
WE ADORE HIM.
HE'S LIKE MANY OF THE OTHER
STATION PRESIDENTS.
WE'RE GOOD NEWS FOR A STATION.
ON TOP OF HAVING THE THREE SHOWS
THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRODUCE FROM
YOUR CITY, WE BOOST YOUR RATINGS
SO THAT YOU CAN SHOW EVERYBODY
WHO LIVES AROUND, WHO IS GOING
TO BE WATCHING STARTING --
>> IT'S PROBABLY GOOD NEWS FOR
THE COMMUNITY.
>> GREAT NEWS FOR A COMMUNITY.
FIRST WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU
LEARN ABOUT YOUR THINGS.
AND SECOND OF ALL, FOR THAT
PUBLIC TELEVISION STATION WE'LL
LET YOU PLEDGE TICKETS, TO BE
HONEST, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE
FIVE TO 6,000 PEOPLE THAT DAY,
WE'LL TAPE MAYBE 100 OF THEM OR
SO, THOSE OTHER 4900 OR SO ARE
WALKING AWAY WITH INFORMATION
THAT NOT SO EASILY FOUND.
>> AND MAYBE SPENDING MONEY IN
THE COMMUNITY.
NOW, WE HAD BEEN ASKING FOR A
WHILE, BUT THERE WAS SPACE
CONSIDERATIONS AS I UNDERSTAND
IT.
NO CONVENTION CENTER HERE BIG
ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOU NEEDED.
WHAT CHANGED SO YOU CAME HERE?
>> WHAT CHANGES IS REALLY
NOTHING ABOUT BOISE.
NOTICE I SAID BOISE.
I LEARNED IT WHILE I WAS HERE
LAST TIME.
WE HAVE ADAPTED ENOUGH THAT ONCE
IN A TOUR WE WILL GO TO A VENUE
THAT ISN'T BASICALLY OUR
REQUIREMENTS.
OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE A
CONVENTION CENTER WITH 80 TO
100,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE,
WITH AN AIR WALL, AND THE LIST
GETS REALLY BORING.
BUT WE WILL ONCE A SEASON, IT'S
A LOT OF WORK TO REJIG HOW WE
LAY OUT OUR SET, DO THAT, AND
BOISE, WE'VE BEEN DYING TO GET
UP HERE.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE STATE,
AND THIS IS AN AREA OF THE
COUNTRY WE'VE BEEN REMISS
BECAUSE THERE AREN'T PLACES TO
GO.
WE HAD TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, AND WE
DID.
>> IT'S A WHIRLWIND WHEN YOUR
STAFF COMES IN.
WE'VE GOT FOOTAGE OF THE SET-UP,
YOU'RE ON A TIGHT SCHEDULE, THIS
IS DOWN TO A SYSTEM, YOU BRING
YOUR OWN FOLKS, YOUR OWN
LIGHTING GRID.
THERE'S 15 STAFF, 25 CREW,
FREELANCERS, 15 LOCAL CREW, 110
VOLUNTEERS.
75 APPRAISERS, I COUNT IT IT ALL
UP, ABOUT 170 STAFF CREW AND 75
APPRAISALS.
>> IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO MAKE
"ANTIQUES ROADSHOW."
AND EVEN SENSE --
BECAUSE WE KNOW GO TO MORE
CITIES AND PRODUCE MORE SHOWS,
WE'RE NOW DOING 35 EPISODES A
YEAR, WE USED TO DO 27, SINCE
GATHERED KNOWS NUMBERS, I'VE --
MY STAFF IS UP A LITTLE BIT,
BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY ABSORB SO
MUCH INTO AN EXISTING STAFF.
SO IT DOES TAKE A VILLAGE TO
MAKE ROADSHOW.
>> BUT YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO
BE WAITING AND ANNOYED.
>> WE DO OUR BEST.
I KNOW WE DO TIME TICKETS, SO
YOU CAN BE SURE 9:00 TICKET,
PEOPLE WAITED LESS THAN THE 5:00
TICKET PEOPLE.
THAT'S ALL DONE BY RANDOM
SELECTION BECAUSE WE WANT
EVERYONE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE IDAHO PUBLIC
TELEVISION, OR THE OTHER PUBLIC
TELEVISION STATIONS, WE MIGHT
PARTNER WITH, WE COULDN'T DO THE
SHOW.
IT'S ACTUALLY 120 VOLUNTEERS, WE
FEED THEM, WE GIVE THEM AN
APPRAISAL, AND WE GIVE THEM A
FREE SHIRT.
AND IF THEY DIDN'T DO THE SHOW,
WE COULDN'T DO THE SHOW.
WE MAKE THEM WORK, AND IF WE HAD
TO PAY THEM WE COULDN'T DOT
SHOW.
IT'S THE PEOPLE THE STATION
RECRUITED FOR US.
IT REALLY TAKES A VILLAGE.
>> ON SHOW DAY, AS I MENTIONED,
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND 6,000
PEOPLE COME OUT OF THE 16,000
WHO TRIED, AND THEY BRING AN
ASSORTMENT OF EVERYTHING.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MOST
INTERESTING?
I WON'T SAY WEIRD OR ODD, BUT
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MORE
INTERESTING THINGS YOU'VE SEEN
COME THROUGH?
>> INTERESTING IS A FUN WORD.
I'VE SEEN SOME VERY ODD THINGS
COME.
AND IT IS, I'M A MOTHER, AND IF
YOU ASK ME TO PICK MY FAVORITE
CHILD, ASK ME TODAY, AND
TOMORROW IT CHANGES.
IT'S SORT OF LIKE THAT WITH
APPRAISALS.
I COULD JUST --
ONE OF MY VERY MOST FAVORITE
THINGS CAME INTO BOISE THAT I
HAPPEN TO LIKE A LOT.
AND THAT IS THIS BABE RUTH CANDY
CLUB CARD.
BUT ONE OF MY MOST FAVORITE
THINGS FROM THE SEASON, SEE
THIS, IS HARD!
>> I WAS THINKING ABOUT ODD
THINGS.
>> ODD THINGS, ALL RIGHT.
THE MOST ODD THING I'VE EVER
SEEN I'M EMBARRASSED TO TALK
ABOUT, AND I CAN'T BECAUSE I'M A
GENTLE WOMAN.
BUT I HAVE SEEN --
I THINK ONE OF THE ODDEST THINGS
WAS A WOMAN WHO CAME IN NOT JUST
WITH HER BEDROOM SET, BUT WITH
THE MATTRESS AS WELL.
SHE WAS GOING TO MAKE SURE WE
COULD SET UP THE WHOLE BEDROOM
JUST LIKE IT LOOKED AT HOME, AND
SHE LOVED IT ALL, GOD BLESS HER.
FOR ME, INTERESTING THAT SHE
WOULD DO TO THAT KIND OF TROUBLE
TO SHOW US.
WE DIDN'T APPRAISE THE MATTRESS.
[LAUGHTER]
>> WELL, LET'S START GETTING
INTO SOME OF THE THINGS FROM
BOISE.
FIRST OF ALL, WHY --
YOU WERE IN SIX CITIES FOR THIS
SEASON, WHY DID BOISE RISE TO
THE TOP THAT YOU WANTED TO START
THE WHOLE SERIES?
>> YOU COMPETE BETTER THAN THAT.
WE WERE IN EIGHT CITIES THIS
SEASON.
YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PUSHED
YOU UP TO THE FRONT WAS THIS
PAINTING THAT CAME IN.
BY --
>> WE WILL SHOW IT IN JUST A
MOMENT.
YES.
THAT'S IT, HUH?
>> THAT GIFFORD PAINTING WAS A
BIG DEAL.
>> LET'S GET RIGHT TO THAT.
WE'VE GOT TAPE OF THIS
APPRAISAL, WHICH IS QUITE
AMAZING.
LET'S ROLL THAT.
>> IT WAS STORED DOWN IN THE
BASEMENT, AND THEN WHEN MY
HUSBAND'S PARENTS PASSED AWAY,
HE INHERITED IT.
WE'VE HAD IT FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS.
BUT JUST HAD IT STORED UP ABOVE
THE BOOK SHELF AT HOME.
AND IT WASN'T UNTIL WE WATCHED
"ANTIQUES ROADSHOW" QUITE A BIT
THAT I GOT A LITTLE SUSPICIOUS
AND WENT, I WONDER IF THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT'S PRETTY NEAT?
>> I THINK IT'S PRETTY NEAT.
THE ARTIST IS SANFORD ROBINSON
GIFFORD.
NOW, GIFFORD IS A VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT HUDSON RIVER ARTIST.
>> REALLY?
>> HE WAS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE
GREAT LUPE NEWS PAINTERS.
LUMINIST REFERRED TO THE
LANDSCAPE PAINTERS THAT SAW
NATURE AS SUBLIME.
HOLD ON TO YOUR SEAT.
THE INSURANCE VALUE WOULD BE
ABOUT $300,000.
>> THAT'S AMAZING.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
>> SO THERE YOU GO.
>> I LOVE THAT MOMENT.
I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE
ABOUT THIS PAINTING, THIS WILL
AIR ON JANUARY 6th, AND WHAT
YOU WILL SEE IN THE REST OF THAT
APPRAISAL IS, I LOVE OUR
EXPERTS, LIKE BETTY, WHO TELLS
YOU, SHE DOESN'T EVEN NEED TO
LOOK AT THE SIGNATURE.
MY FAVORITE LINE, SHE SAYS IT'S
SIGNED WITH EVERY STROKE OF THE
BRUSH.
SHE KNOWS WHO THAT ARTIST IS.
WE HAVE A VERY UNUSUAL STORY
ABOUT THIS GUEST.
THIS GUEST, UNLIKE 99.9% OF
ROADSHOW GUESTS, HAS DECIDED TO
SELL THAT PAINTING.
WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THAT
STORY, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT
HAPPENS WITH IT.
BUT SHE IS --
IT IS IN A GALLERY, AND SHE HAS
COMMISSIONED IT FOR SALE.
BY THE WAY, NO ONE DOES THAT.
PEOPLE KEEP IT, WHETHER IT'S
WORTH $100, $100,000, 500,000,
THEY TEND TO TRY AND KEEP THEIR
THINGS.
SO --
BUT THEY'RE PARTING WITH IT.
>> IT'S RARE, AS I UNDERSTAND
IT, FOR SIX-FIGURE --
FOR A SIX-FIGURE APPRAISAL TO
COME THROUGH.
>> IT IS.
AND NOT IN EVERY CITY WE'RE IN
THIS SUMMER DID ALL THE CITIES
HAVE A SIX-FIGURE APPRAISAL.
LOOK AT IT THIS WAY --
ABOUT 5,000 PEOPLE COME TO AN
EVENT, TIMES THAT BY TWO, THAT'S
10,000, IT'S FIVE TO 6,000
PEOPLE.
10 TO 12,000 OBJECTS, IT'S THE
TRULY RARE, TRULY RARE THAT GET
THAT KIND OF VALUE.
AND RARE IS RARE.
IF WE WALKED AROUND BOISE AND
KNOCKED ON EVERYBODY'S DOOR, WE
WOULDN'T HAVE FOUND WHAT WE
FOUND HERE BY GATHERING THAT
DAY.
>> YOU REALLY WANT TO PICK
SOMEBODY WHO --
FOR WHOM THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF
SURPRISE.
>> YOU NEGOTIATION OUR SLOGAN IS
DISCOVERING AMERICA'S HIDDEN
TREASURES.
WE ARE NOT A SHOW ABOUT SHOW AND
TELL.
SO WE DON'T WANT THE MUSEUMS TO
BRING US THEIR GREAT OBJECTS,
BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE
AND THEY UNDERSTAND.
IT'S NOT SHOW AND TELL.
FRANKLY, AS MUCH AS WE ARE
ABOUT --
OUR FIRST MISSION IS EDUCATING
AND TRUTH AND HONESTY, WE ARE
ALSO COMPETING IN A TELEVISION
ENVIRONMENT, AND IT DOES NEED TO
BE EDUCATIONAL, BUT YET
ENTERTAINING.
SO SHOW AND TELL IS NOT VERY
ENTERTAINING, AND SO WE ARE
TRULY ABOUT DISCOVERING
AMERICA'S HIDDEN TREASURES.
AND WITH 10 TO 12,000 OBJECTS IN
THE ROOM, WE DON'T HAVE TO
SETTLE FOR THAT.
SO, YEAH, WE WILL LOOK FOR A
GUEST WHO HAS SOMETHING TO
LEARN.
>> YOUR APPRAISERS, LET'S TALK
ABOUT THAT.
THEY'RE HOLDING ON THIS INSIDE.
THEY'VE SEEN IT, THEY'RE
CONTAINING THEIR EXCITEMENT.
THEY KNOW.
>> THEY'RE BURSTING.
>> YEAH.
BUT THEY HAVE TO WAIT.
>> M-HMM.
>> UNTIL THE REVEAL, SO TO
SPEAK.
AND THEY HAVE A CODE OF CONDUCT
THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.
>> M-HMM.
AND IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THAT
CODE OF CONDUCT IT WILL BE THEIR
LAST ROADSHOW.
WE'RE VERY STRICT ABOUT IT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, OBVIOUSLY WE
NEED PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT
THEY'RE DOING.
IDEALLY THEY'RE NICE.
[LAUGHTER]
GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ALL
THAT.
BUT THE ETHICS OF THEIR BUSINESS
IS CRITICAL.
AND WE CHECK SOMEBODY OUT BEFORE
WE ADD A ROADSHOW EXPERT TO THE
ROSTER.
WHAT'S THEIR --
WE'LL DO BACKGROUND CHECKS, BUT
WE'LL DO GOSSIP CHECKS.
WHAT DO PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS
KNOW ABOUT THAT PERSON?
BECAUSE WE KNOW ONCE WE PUT THEM
ON THE ROADSHOW SET, OUR VIEWERS
WILL TRUST THEM.
AND WE WANT TO BE --
JUST BE CERTAIN THAT TRUST IS
WELL DESERVED.
>> THEY PAY THEIR OWN WAY.
>> THEY VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME,
THEY PAY THEIR OWN WAY, WE GIVE
THEM LUNCH ON SATURDAY, PLUS
THOSE 8 MILLION VIEWERS A WEEK.
BUT THEY DON'T NATE THEIR TIME.
IT'S AN EXPENSIVE SUMMER FOR
SOMEBODY WHO COMES TO ALL EIGHT
CITIES.
>> PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT
THING, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO
SOLICIT.
SO THEY CAN --
A PERSON CAN TAKE THEIR CARD,
BUT THEY CAN'T SIGN UP TO
AUCTION THIS THING.
>> FOR ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO IS
TAKING THEIR OBJECTS TO LOCAL
PLACE EVEN, ANYBODY WHO IS
APPRAISING YOUR OBJECT SHOULD
NOT OFFER TO SELL IT OR BUY IT.
I MEAN, UNLESS IT'S AN AUCTION
HOUSE, THE MARKET THEN DECIDES.
AUCTIONED OFF.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN
YOU'RE APPRAISING YOU DON'T MAKE
ANY OFFERS TO SELL.
AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS SOMEBODY
FROM ROADSHOW TO SELL THAT ITEM,
THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE'VE
FLOWN OUT OF TOWN.
>> YOU MENTIONED THE
ENTERTAINMENT FACTOR.
BEFORE WE GO BACK TO ANOTHER
BOISE CLIP, I HAVE TO SHOW ONE
OF MY FAVORITE CLIPS.
TALK ABOUT ENTERTAINING.
THIS IS A WOMAN WHO HAD
PURCHASED A LETTER THAT FRANK
SINATRA WROTE TO A COLUMNIST IN
CHICAGO, THERE'S A WHOLE BACK
STORY.
BUT LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN SHE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE
VALUE OF HER LETTER.
>> AS SUCH, I WOULD ESTIMATE IT
AT AUCTION AT AT LEAST
$15,000 -- AND I WOULDN'T BE
SURPRISED --
I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THIS
LETTER SOLD FOR MORE THAN THAT,
BECAUSE SINATRA'S STUFF IS HOT
AS IT CAN GET, AND IT JUST
DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER THAN
THIS.
WITH ALL THE PROVE NANCE AND
YOUR GREAT STORY, IT'S JUST SUCH
A GREAT PIECE.
I WAS SO HAPPY YOU BROUGHT IT IN
TODAY.
>> OH, GEERKS I'M GOING TO
FAINT!
I'M GOING TO FAINT!
I REALLY --
>> ARE YOU ALL RIGHT?
>> OH, MAN!
ARE THEY KIDDING ME?
DID YOU ALL HEAR THAT?
DID YOU ALL HEAR THAT?
>> YES!
>> HE OFFERED ME $100 FOR IT!
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT FOR $100!
ISN'T THAT SUPER?
>> I JUST LOVE THAT.
IN ADDITION TO THE APPRAISAL,
THE NUMBER, THERE IS HER
PASSION, THEN YOU SEE THE CREW
AS WELL, WHICH IS PART OF THE
WHOLE STORY, AND I DON'T KNOW,
MAYBE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN
AMBULANCE.
>> SHE'S EXCITED.
>> WAITING BY.
>> I LOVE THAT MOMENT.
HER STORY ABOUT HOW SHE GOT THE
LETTER, HOW HER FAMILY HAD
BOUGHT IT FOR HER, THIS IS A
PRODUCER'S DREAM, BY THE WAY.
SHE HAS THE BEST REACTION OF
THAT SEASON.
THAT'S A CLIP THAT I NEVER TIRE
OF LOOKING AT.
SHE IS THRILLED.
I --
WE HAVE A CLIP FROM THIS SEASON
THAT I WOULD SAY IS THE BEST
REACTION OF THE SEASON AS WELL.
IT'S THE MADAM C.J. WALKER BOOK.
AND --
>> THAT'S NOT IN BOISE, THAT'S
ANOTHER --
>> THAT'S IN ANOTHER CITY,
COMING UP.
BUT THERE'S SOMEONE WHO DOES IT
FOR YOU, BUT FRANKLY, IF YOU'RE
WATCHING THIS, PLEASE DO LET OUT
YOUR EMOTIONS WHEN YOU COME TO
"ANTIQUES ROADSHOW."
BECAUSE SOMETHING LIKE THAT
DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERY YEAR EVEN.
>> JUST BRIEFLY, MADAM C.J.
WALKER, WE'LL SHOW FOOTAGE OF
THAT, SHE WAS AN
AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN,
SELF-MADE, FIRST SELF-MADE
FEMALE MILLIONAIRE IN THE
COUNTRY AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AND THE REACTION OF THE WOMAN
WHO HAS IT IS PRICELESS.
>> IT'S TOTALLY PRICELESS.
IT WAS A GUEST WHO GOT THAT BOOK
AS A GIFT FROM A FRIEND, NO CLUE
THAT IT'S WORTH QUITE --
THE FIVE FIGURES OF MONEY, IT'S
A $10,000 BOOK.
>> I HAVEN'T NOTICED THAT MANY
AFRICAN-AMERICANS OR OTHER
ETHNICITIES AS GUESTS, PEOPLE
COMING TO ROADSHOW.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE WORKING
ON?
>> IT IS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHAT WE DO
IN EVERY COMMUNITY, AND WE DID
IT HERE AS WELL, WE WORK WITH
THE STATION TO DO OUTREACH WITH
200 TICKETS TO LOOK FOR DIVERSE
DISTRIBUTION, SO WE CAN HAVE
MORE DIVERSITY ON ROADSHOW.
THE CHALLENGE FOR --
IN THE WORLD OF ANTIQUES,
ANYWAY, IS THAT FOR GENERATIONS
IT'S BEEN A VERY WHITE, MALE
WORLD.
SO EVEN ON ROADSHOW'S SET THE
MEN OUTNUMBER THE WOMEN TWO TO
ONE.
BUT IT IS A CHALLENGE, AND WE'RE
ALWAYS LOOKING FOR CREATIVE WAYS
TO GET MORE PEOPLE INTO THE
FOLD.
WE'VE ALL GOT SOMETHING WE'RE
INTERESTED IN.
>> IT WILL HAPPEN.
>> BY THE WAY, NO MATTER WHAT
WE'RE INTERESTED IN, IF IT
FOLLOWS THE RULE OF THUMB, IT'S
NOT WORTH A LOT OF MONEY.
JUST SO YOU KNOW.
>> MOST THINGS ARE SENTIMENTAL
IN VALUE.
>> EXACTLY.
>> LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT ANOTHER
CLIP FROM BOISE, I LOVE THIS AS
WELL, THIS IS ANOTHER APPRAISAL
OF A LETTER WITH A STORY BEHIND
IT.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
>> ECHOS THE SAME, I'M 33 YEARS
OLD, AND I HAVEN'T HAD MUCH
EDUCATION.
I WAS RAISED BY A GUARDIAN, I
ONLY WENT TO ONE YEAR OF SCHOOL
WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD, LEARNED
A LITTLE ARITHMETIC, SO I'M
WRITING TO YOU AS A FELLOW
VIRGINIAN BECAUSE NOW I'M A
FAIRLY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN,
ENOUGH TO SUPPORT MY FAMILY.
BUT I WANT TO KNOW, WHAT BOOKS I
SHOULD READ TO FURTHER MY
EDUCATION, AND I'M WRITING TO
YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE A
KNOWLEDGEABLE AND WORLDLY GUY.
AND JEFFERSON HERE IN THIS
LETTER TAKES THE TIME TO REPLY.
IT'S A WONDERFUL LETTER, IF THIS
LETTER CAME UP FOR AUCTION IT
WOULD FETCH FROM 35 TO $50,000,
BECAUSE OF THE CONTENT.
>> WOW.
MAYBE I SHOULDN'T KEEP IT IN THE
SIDE BOARD.
>> MAYBE NOT.
>> AGAIN, A LETTER SIGNED BY
THOMAS JEFFERSON TO AN ANCESTOR
OF THIS WOMAN WHO WAS ASKING HIM
FOR ASSISTANCE ON WHAT BOOKS HE
SHOULD READ.
>> I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING
INSIGHT INTO JEFFERSON TOO.
YOU GET SOME ADVICE ABOUT WHY HE
DOESN'T LIKE ONE BOOK VERSUS
ANOTHER IN THE POLITICAL VIEWS
OF THAT BOOK.
AND THAT KIND OF HISTORY THAT
ROADSHOW SHARES WITH THE NATION
IS PRICELESS.
THIS ISN'T DOCUMENTED ANYWHERE
ELSE, WE ARE OFTEN THE FIRST
DOCUMENTERS, HISTORIANS ARE
INTERESTED OFTEN IN WHAT WE HAVE
TALKED ABOUT.
EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK BACK OVER THE
YEARS OF "ANTIQUES ROADSHOW,"
THE VERY FAMOUS JFK
PHOTOGRAPHER, CECIL STOUGHTON,
NO OTHER ORGANIZATION HAS AN
INTERVIEW WITH CECIL STOUGHTON.
WE ARE IN A FORTUNATE POSITION
WHERE EVERYBODY, WHETHER YOU'RE
FAMOUS OR NOT, IS INTERESTED IN
WHAT THEY OWN.
ESPECIALLY FAMILY THINGS.
HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
AND VERY OFTEN WE CAN ANSWER
THOSE QUESTIONS.
>> AND THINGS HAVE FEET.
I MEAN --
>> THEY DO.
>> BETWEEN THE MAIL SERVICE AND
JUST PEOPLE CARRYING AROUND, YOU
CAN GET A LETTER FROM JEFFERSON
THERE, LET'S LOOK AT ANOTHER
CLIP.
YOU MENTIONED IT ALREADY, IT'S A
BABE RUTH CANDY CARD THAT
SOMEBODY ORDERED THROUGH THE
MAIL, AND LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT
THAT APPRAISAL.
>> THIS IS AN ITEM THAT BELONGED
TO MY FATHER.
HE WOULD BE 100 YEARS OLD THIS
YEAR.
IT WAS KEPT BY MY GRANDMOTHER
AND WHEN HER ESTATE WAS
DISTRIBUTED, THIS LITTLE BOX OF
ALL KINDS OF THINGS SHE KEPT WAS
BROUGHT TO OUR FAMILY.
>> IN THE REALM OF BABE RUTH
COLLECTIBLES, THIS IS ONE OF THE
RARER ITEMS.
>> OH, IT IS?
OH, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
>> PRIOR TO TODAY THERE WAS ONLY
THREE OF THESE KNOWN TO EXIST.
>> OH, MY GOODNESS.
>> THIS ONE HERE TODAY BEING THE
FOURTH TO SURFACE.
THIS ITEM TODAY AT AUCTION WOULD
SELL FOR BETWEEN 1,500 AND
$2,000.
>> WOW!
I'M HAPPY I BROUGHT IT TODAY.
I'M SURPRISED IT'S SO RARE.
>> SHE'S PRETTY CONTAINED.
BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU
HAVE.
MAYBE NOW I CAN EXPLAIN TO MY
MOM WHY I SAVED ALL MY WACKY
PACK STICKERS FROM 1970s OR
SOMETHING.
I WAS THAT WAY TOO, I COLLECTED
NOT FOR VALUE, BUT JUST --
I DON'T KNOW, JUST INTEREST.
>> NORMALLY THAT'S WHAT IT IS,
PEOPLE --
UNLESS YOU'RE IN THE BUSINESS,
COLLECT FOR SENTIMENTAL REASONS
OR BECAUSE THEY LOVE SOMETHING.
>> MAPS.
>> AND THEY BUMP INTO VALUE.
THIS IS A CARD, MOST SENTIMENTAL
VALUE, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT
IT'S WORTH, THEY CAN'T PART WITH
IT UNLESS THEY HAVE GREAT NEED
OR SOMETHING.
THEY CAN'T.
>> WHAT DO YOU LIKE SO MUCH
ABOUT THIS?
>> I LOVE FIRST OF ALL THAT IT'S
ONE OF FOUR.
NOW, THERE WERE ONLY THREE IN
EXISTENCE BEFORE.
>> THERE WERE TONS SENT OUT.
>> TONS.
WHAT THEY EXPLAINED ON THE
APPRAISAL IS THE PROCESS OF HOW
YOU GOT THIS BABE RUTH CARD, IT
WASN'T JUST YOU HAD TO MAIL IN
AND IT HAD TO COME BACK, AND SO
IT WASN'T FOR THE LAZY.
AND THEN LET'S FACE IT, WHERE
ARE YOUR BASEBALL CARDS?
WHERE ARE MY BASEBALL CARDS?
THEY GET THROWN OUT.
THINGS --
PEOPLE DON'T SAVE THESE THINGS.
AND JUST HOW EASILY THAT COULD
HAVE BEEN IN A STACK OF
WORTHLESS CARDS AND CHUCKED.
I LOVE THAT IT'S BEEN RESCUED, I
LOVE THAT SHE WAS CURIOUS, AND
FOR THAT LITTLE TINY CARD, $1500
TO $2,000?
AND IT PROBABLY WILL EXCEED
THAT, WHERE THEY'RE USUALLY
CONSERVATIVE AND IT'S ONE OF
FOUR, THAT BLOWS ME AWAY.
>> WE HAVE TIME, SO LET'S TAKE A
LOOK AT ONE LAST APPRAISAL FROM
BOISE, FROM THE TAPINGS THERE,
AND THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO HAD A
PLATE OVER THEIR STOVE FOR QUITE
SOME TIME.
HANGING, BECAUSE THE KIDS LIKED
THE WAY IT LOOKED.
IT HAPPENED TO BE DONE BY A
FAMOUS ARTIST.
>> IT'S BEEN IN OUR FAMILY SINCE
ABOUT 1970.
WE BOUGHT IT IN RHODE ISLAND.
DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE IT WAS A
PICASSO UNTIL ABOUT FIVE YEARS
AGO.
I HAVE TO ADMIT, THAT IT HUNG
OVER THE STOVE IN THE KITCHEN,
AND ALL OF OUR KIDS LOVED THE
SMILEY FACE THERE WOULD YOU BE
SURPRISED AN AUCTION VALUE IN
TODAY'S MARKET, PROBABLY ON THE
CONSERVATIVE SIDE, WOULD BE IN
THE RANGE OF $10,000-15,000?
I LOVE YOU TOO.
>> THAT'S A MEDOURA PLATE.
WE'VE SEEN OTHER PICASSO
MEDOURA --
YOU'VE GOT TO LOVE HER REACTION.
I WOULD FEEL LIKE THAT IF I WERE
HER.
I WOULD BE GRABBING THAT
APPRAISER, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
BELIEVE THE PLATE THAT WAS
HANGING ABOVE, GATHERING GREASE,
IS NOW WORTH FIVE FIGURES.
TO MY MEMORY SHE PAID AROUND
$FIFT-100 FOR THAT.
>> THE APPRAISER IS PRICELESS AS
WELL IN HIS REACTION.
>> YES.
>> SO YOU MENTIONED YOU'VE SEEN
OTHER MEDOURAS, WHAT --
WHEN SOMEBODY COMES AND TALKS TO
YOU AND MAKES THE PITCH, MARSHA,
LET'S GO WITH THIS.
AND YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN
SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE, HOW
DO YOU DECIDE?
>> NOT EASILY.
IT'S HARD.
FRANKLY THERE'S SOME ONES THAT
ARE JUST GIMMES, THE MADAM C.J.
WALKER BOOK, THE GIFFORD
PAINTING.
MY CHILDREN WOULD PICK THIS.
BUT MOST OF THEM AREN'T THAT
EASY.
WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS OVER
THE YEARS, SO A LOT GOES INTO
THAT DECISION.
IT'S NOT AN EXACT LIST OR AN
EXACT SCIENCE, ONE OF THE THINGS
YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, DOES
THE GUEST HAVE SOMETHING TO
LEARN?
OR IS IT YET ANOTHER TIFFANY
BUTTERFLY --
DRAGONFLY LAMP?
WE'RE SICK OF THEM.
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE
WORTH NOW.
SO A LOT GOES INTO --
WE'VE GOT 18 YEARS OF IT, WE'RE
STARTING TO BROADCAST SEASON 18,
SO 18 YEARS UNDER OUR BELTS, AND
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE SAME
THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND SO WE JUST WANT IT TO BE
GREAT TELEVISION, WHERE YOU
LEARN SOMETHING.
WE LOVE THINGS LIKE THE
JEFFERSON LETTER.
YOU LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT
JEFFERSON.
LOVE THAT.
>> YOU HAVE ABOUT 60 HOURS OF
TAPE THAT YOU COME BACK WITH
FROM A VENUE THAT YOU HAVE TO
CONDENSE INTO THREE HOURS?
>> AT LEAST.
>> THAT'S, WHAT, 80 TO 90
APPRAISALS THAT HAVE TO COME
DOWN TO HOW MANY PER SHOW?
>> IT'S ABOUT --
FROM THE MULTICAMS, 15 PER SHOW,
PLUS THE SINGLE CAMERA
APPRAISALS, ABOUT ANOTHER HALF
DOZEN OF THOSE.
AND KEEP IN MIND, I DON'T KNOW
THE DATE YET.
BUT WHEN WE KNOW THIS IDAHO PTV
WILL KNOW AS WELL, YOU'LL HAVE A
LITTLE BIT MORE COMING, BECAUSE
WE MAKE TWO HOURS CALLED JUNK IN
THE TRUNK, AND IN THE JUNK IN
THE TRUNK, WE'VE BEEN TO EIGHT
CITIES, WE'LL USE THE THINGS WE
COULDN'T SQUEEZE INTO THE THREE
HOURS OF THAT CITY.
MAKE IT INTO THESE TWO HOURS.
SO AFTER THESE JANUARY
BROADCASTS, SOMETIME LATER IN
THE YEAR, WATCH FOR MORE FROM
BOISE.
BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MORE.
>> I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T
TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHEN
YOU GO TO A CITY, YOU ALSO --
IT'S AS MUCH ABOUT EDUCATION AS
THESE VALUATIONS, AND YOU PICK A
PLACE, HISTORIC PLACE IN A CITY
TO GO, AND IN BOISE IT WAS THE
EGYPTIAN THEATER, CLASSIC
REVIVAL --
EGYPTIAN REVIVAL THEATER, AND
YOU DISPLAYED SOME BEAUTIFUL
JEWELRY.
TELL ME ABOUT WHY --
YOU HAVE LIMITED TIME IN A SHOW,
YOU COULD BE PUTTING A COUPLE
MORE APPRAISALS IN THERE, A
COUPLE MORE REVEALS.
WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO YOU TO
HAVE THAT HISTORICAL SECTION IN
THERE?
>> WE NEED A SENSE OF PLACE.
WHERE IN THE WORLD ARE WE, WE
ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO TALK
ABOUT OBJECTS IN A WAY THEY
WON'T COME IN.
SO WE CAN DO COMPARISONS THERE,
WE THAN SHOW HOW EGYPTIAN
JEWELRY EVOLVED.
THERE ARE --
WE ALSO WERE AT THE OLD IDAHO
PET.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE ITEMS
IN A WAY THAT YOU JUST WON'T SEE
THEM WALK IN THAT WAY.
BUT FOR US IT'S ABOUT A SENSE OF
PLACE, AND THE EGYPTIAN THEATER
IS ONE OF THE BEST PLACES WE
WERE IN THIS SUMMER.
IT'S A GREAT PLACE.
>> I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT A CLIP
FROM ANOTHER CITY IN THE 18th
SERIES, AND IT REPRESENTS I
THINK THE FUTURE.
>> YOU PAID $2, WHAT DO YOU
THINK IT MIGHT BE WORTH TODAY?
>> 150 BUCKS.
>> I THINK IT'S WORTH 150.
I THINK IT'S WORTH MORE THAN
150.
TODAY IF YOUR ALBERT NEUHUYS
WATERCOLOR CAME TO AN AUCTION IT
WOULD PROBABLY SELL BETWEEN
1,000 AND $1,500.
>> WHOA!
>> I LOVE HIM.
>> HE'S A CARTOON CHARACTER COME
ALIVE.
>> I REALLY ADORE THIS KID.
I MET HIM, I PICKED THIS.
THIS IS THE REAL DEAL THIS KID.
THIS KID IS A PICKER.
AND I'VE MET CHILDREN BEFORE
WHOSE PARENTS ARE PLYING THEM,
FILLING THEM WITH WHAT TO TELL
THE PRODUCER.
THIS IS THE REAL DEAL.
HE IS PUSHING HIS FATHER INTO
THESE AUCTIONS, AND HE'S GOING
TO BE A ROADSHOW APPRAISER.
I WANT HIM TO KEEP IN TOUCH WITH
ME, GIVE HIM A COUPLE DECADES,
AND THAT INTEREST LIKE THAT,
HE'LL BE BACK.
THIS KID ISN'T GOING AWAY.
I ADORE HIM.
HE'S THE FUTURE.
>> WELL THANK YOU, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR EXPLAINING A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT GOES ON
BEHIND THE SCENES AT "ANTIQUES
ROADSHOW," AND YOU KNOW, HERE'S
OUR COLLECTORS ITEM FOR YOU.
EVERY GUEST GETS A "DIALOGUE"
MUG.
>> THANK YOU.
>> VERY FEW IN CIRCULATION.
>> AS FAR AS THE RARITY FACTOR,
I'LL JUST HAVE TO GO WITH OTHER
GUESTS GETTING IT, BUT I'LL GO
WITH IT.
THANK YOU.
>> YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING TO
MARSHA BEMKO, THE EXECUTIVE
PRODUCER OF "ANTIQUES ROADSHOW"
ON PBS.
I'M MARCIA FRANKLIN.
AND THANKS FOR TUNING IN.
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