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it's thursday time for world view would dennis campbell dennis is editor in
chief of u_k_ progressive magazine and host of world view on you to go to you
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dennis i'm very interested in talking about the horse meat scandal of the
united kingdom for people who haven't been following this
let's start with
how did this start
where's the horse meat
but its center
well a few weeks ago and number of the major food production companies here
on
had some tests conducted by the efforts there which is the food standards agency
and uh... that's part of our because and i think was the first case it was with a
large chain which is as tough
which is owned by
young wal-mart
of about a third of the sample was coming back were was labeled as beef
as actual horsely
and as the scandal began to widened every one of the major grocery providers
from tesco too
uh... sainsbury's to uh... you know waitrose all
rush to get their foods tested it seemed to be mostly in
pre-packaged food so if you have a spaghetti product without
bolan is sauce with meat in it
that should be one hundred percent beef but in some cases they were finding it
was up to sixty seven to one hundred percent or sweet
and so that's part of the worry
uh... across ministers because basically just as in the united states where the
food and drug administration have been defended the same has happened here with
parliament
and this story conservative government
been very lax on inspections and the food chain is not being as tightly
inspected here just as in the states
as it had been in the past
okay so quote a couple of quick questions on this number one
chains that have tested their me and found horse meat
the the assumption is that none of the the none of them have responsibility in
other words this was just delivered to them as beef and they didn't know or or
maybe it would be implicated
exactly exactly i mean today
contract all of the store is just as in the united states contract with
suppliers
the suppliers of the ones that will actually
package and prepare these meals for later consumption
uh... in particular
what we were finding was that in the so-called budget or value lying in bed
virtually all of these chains
this was where the horse meat was most prevalent
so that if you you know when for example tesco shop that i frequent periodically
has a of something called tesco self everyday value line right if you
purchased a pre-packaged meals from there
chances were
you will likely to get uh... a very high percentage of of of course leaders
results
okay so do we have any sense of but how this got into the system and also
i would not assume that horse meat is necessarily
cheaper i guess if it's forces that have not been treated well and they're
basically just put down that would be a trio away that this meet would be
cheaper than the actually raised for uh... you do you know for for human
consumption but
i'm just confused about the impedance here and what what's going on
well force we've actually is much cheaper i mean if you compare it to
serve our images some of the high-grade
uh... cuts of beef which you would expect to find in ground beef and and
steaks and things of that sort
is roughly one-third the price while and of course it is considered a delicacy in
several parts of the world i mean in france and other areas
about what we found
and this relates back to an incident that happened earlier in the summer
and it's also tied into the deterioration of the economy was that
people could no longer of four vertically in countries like spain which
is where the biggest outbreak was they couldn't before
to maintain their war system or scissor they're expensive animals drying
their veterinary cause they're showing cost this all sorts of things that go
into it
and in the downturn in the economy most people found that they could actually
get
more money by selling their force force longer than they could
you know that in the couldn't afford to continue to pay for the course that spot
one but here in south wales in the area which i love the veil of the morgan
indeed
roughly two phones away from where i i i broadcast from
there was a scandal that lasted for the better part of the year and a half and
revolve people from
eastern europe that in particular gypsies and they have a breed of horse
called the gypsy voice which are actually raised four their meat know
what we saw happening was about a year ago
the horse meat market in france absolutely crater it absolutely
collapsed so
all these forces that were being raised for slaughter
they couldn't get the money they paid out of them
and we have a very taurus farmer literally true farms over from where i
live right now
who basically said his forces free and it is alleged that he indian in uh...
concert with several others in his reasoning
headline news on the b_b_c_ and others lead over two thousand of course is just
one free might have to tell you if you you've you've never seen it it's quite a
sight to be coming down these narrow country lanes and haven't heard of about
two hundred unsupervised unblocked forces heading towards you as you're
driving in your automobile and i think this is contributed the fact that the
horse meat markets collapse to the fact that they're now trying to use it
particularly these larger criminal gangs
lit the processing of that we've seen mafia connections we've seen russian on
sales connections
it's a very shortly we new chain
here in in europe and benefits all led to this sort of thing so last thing on
this but what what is being done now to fix this problem
well course the though the laboratories now completely overwhelmed everybody
wants to be assured that the media source meat free because it says and it
says its peak moment in it should be be if you're expecting to find beat you
should get beat
and uh... you know that process is working its way through but it's very
interesting to see the companies like tesco waitrose in sainsbury's but all
come out
with very apologetic tones the c_e_o_'s are taking
full responsibility and jumping forward and making certain that the chain is
clear so i imagine in the next three to four months of the sea it will a note
there'll be much stronger measurement but the real problem now is with the
various ministers inside of this government
dropped the ball and this time is apparently warnings about
this particular issue
two years ago that went unheeded
does this make you glad to be a vegetarian
or does it ever my friend help
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dennis thanks as always will talk to you next week
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