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david package and ideas that dot com welcome to the showed me on the graph
price is going to be with us a little bit later that's going to be exciting
lewis i cannot wait
to talk to him even though we did actually already do the interview rate
and it's been available to members for a couple of days but
if you're not a member
the excitement
could potentially be real william it says you can't wait to revisit
the interview right
just wasn't sure if you have more on that
now we have to talk about this uh... u_s_ soldiers shooting rampage that took
place in afghanistan and were now starting to hear unknown bir of
different theories looking at an explanation
now what we what we do know about the individual is that he was uh... serving
his fourth tour
over the last who knows how many uh... few years over the last couple of wars
willis
we do not know his name the name is being kept confidential
will talk about that in a second because there's actually controversy over
whether whether even that make sense
and u_s_ official has actually now said to go to a reuters that the staff
sergeant involved in this in this shindig that killed sixteen civilians in
their homes
not had suffered a dramatic brain injury in a vehicle rollover and two thousand
ten in iraq
that he was treated
and then returned to duty
which certainly is raising a lot of questions lewis about why that would be
the case but experts are actually college cautioning against jumping to
any conclusions about this because uh... when we actually look at act
information about deep revel in some people e_s_p_
depression and other mental illness it actually peaks at the third deployment
but drops by the fourth of the kind of conventional assumed wisdom lou is that
the more deployment you have the more likely you you are to be diagnosed with
p_t_a_
excuse me p d_s_p_
color alexa meadville colas actually goes down why would that be
i'd just i soon
you just get use to eight value that my theory yet he did it by these sounds in
a sound dumb but i really think it's that simple i think that what may be the
case is that you become used to having those symptoms
it's it's actually kind of sad because it's almost like
having the symptoms of pete e_s_p_n_ mental illness becomes the norm where
you are so used to it
that you're able to idon't want to use the word disguise but you kind of
internalized it into your behavior
where it doesn't stand out to a mental health professional when they're talking
to you
but that's just my theory of what i don't actually have the answer but i
know in a lot of cases armed with with p_t_ sdn
traumatized soldiers with what uh...
what a lot of the therapy sessions involved
is actually discussing in detail
the events that they don't want to talk about the things that have started them
over and over and over again
yeah i think that also um... one of the reasons why might
uh... com alan statistics that people on there
uh... deployment have lower rates than those on third deployment
is because the ones that finish their fourth deployments
uh... are are with the ones that are coping the best
compared to the ones in the third one unless that you know these studies have
taken that fact in the carolina will the other question is why would a soldier
who was injured interact with the potential brain injury
be sent back into combat anywhere much less afghanistan that's another question
i think lou is that we have to act
right but
brain injuries
it's impossible to know what it has really done to your brain in a lot of
cases sure you had a brain injury but i don't think there's any real way of
examining bring to the point where you can determine world this person might
might just snap
and or disperse in my start thinking and saying things and i think that's
incredibly hard to determine there's a lot of things you can't ask for in terms
of cognitive abilities but direct predicting whether any one person is
going to have a breakdown or not is difficult
the other thing is that you know we've seen the taliban now bowing revenge for
the sole for for this uh... shooting rampage
and that's never a good obviously
what is going to happen if it turns out that this individual is is determined to
be mentally unfit to stand trial what happens then
as for merely as far as a reaction from the from the people matter uh... uh...
connected to the victims of this of this tragedy
uh... are now
i it's your complicated i'm sure uh...
they will want you to stand trial there
for his crimes i guess you call 'em and uh... unlikely that that would happen
very unlikely
where we stand trial here
he will probably be deemed uh... unfit
the other question is what is the argument
for concealing the name of the soldiers suspect in this particular case
we seem to have no problem at all publicizing the names of enemy
combatants the is this not a double standard in some sense that we can't
know the name of this individual i think it's probably
in part to protect his family
but what about the families of so-called enemy combatants before
there has been any trial i have read in the time do you see what i'm saying her
is there any kind of a double standard and i'm asking i'm honestly asking i
don't have the answer
all what's the official reason for why they're not releasing the name
i think it is just a brief the protect his privacy have and and and his family
i think i think that is the official reason
but is this something that applies to all folders
in when they've committed crimes like *** i mean with the four of the
shooting we knew the man's name
right and with uh... and with that urinating thing
that was
you know pretty quickly the names the soldiers rossi and i actually remember
that i don't know we found out the names of the year are you there if we knew the
unit so you basically know their names at that point
i'm not really sure
all right well with the question is that i would be curious to know people think
about that
uh... what what are the different parameters we use for deciding whether
to release someone's name or not
this is also making newt gingrich and rick santorum question the afghan
mission
uh... it's amazing that have taken this long for them to question it shows you
how far out of the out of the extreme how far are the mainstream rather these
republican candidates are newt gingrich henriksen drummer both saying the u_s_
should reassess its role
in afghanistan
that makes perfect sense voters are saying that because uh... the majority
of
people in the u_s_ believes that
that's what we should be doing
yet it will lower your discussing things or just pouring out completely
i mean are they just saying this because this a little early very saying it
because it makes them look that while the saying it now because it can be more
and
more easily
connected to present all bomb a rather than george w_ bush was a member of the
same party that these guys are running in