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No harm...The day they convicted me
the late Adnan Menderes permitted the Adhan to be made in Arabic.
I got a prison sentence of 6 weeks.
But, Subhan Allah, while they were giving me this sentence in the court
Adnan Menderes permitted the Adhan to be made in Arabic, thanks to Allah.
The last sentence for Adhan was mine.
The last conviction for making the Adhan in Arabic was mine.
G. There is a different rumour about how you met with Sh Abdullah Dagistani.
He showed you Shaykh Sa'id as-Suba'i as your company.
M. Who? G. Shaykh Sa'id as-Suba'i
M. Shaykh Sa'id as-Suba'i. G. Yes.
That was when I was in Homs.
G. So, when you were passing from Homs to Sham, you were alone?
M. Yes. G. In your seclusion in Baghdad
during your seclusion in Sh. AbdulQadir Gilani's mosque
you were given a coin in spirituality.
G. Do you still keep that coin? M. No, not like that.
I would recite Holy Quran in the presence of Hadrat (Gilani).
The tribe women coming to visit the maqam
the Arab visitors
they would look at my face when I was reading Quran & would put in my hand.
2 cents, 1 cent..And I would say to the Sultan:
"No harm, whatever they give me, I take it."
G. And, also, in your chain, in Silsilat ul Zahabiyya (Golden Chain)
in no. 32, there is Sh Ismael as Sharwani Qurdamiri. M. No harm.
G. But Ismael Hamarani...
M. The intention is, Hadrat Sh Ismael in the Golden Chain.
Sh Ismail Hamarani.
G. Was his life too short? in Sh Hisham's Sufi Way book,
his name is not mentioned.
After Mawlana Khâlid-i Baghdâdî, it goes on with Mawlana Ismail Sherwani.
It is said that he lived for 7 years, he had a very short life.
M. 7 years and 15 days. Meaning, the others could not reach him.
He delivered the seal to Sh Ismail Has Mohammad.
It was transferred to Daghistan at that time.
G. Did he live 15 days after the death of Mawlana Khalid Baghdadi? M. Yes.
G. I thought it meant he did 15 days of spiritual service.
Grandson: He lived 15 days after Sh Khalid al Baghdadi, then he died.
M.That is why he couldn't..Other caliphs couldn't meet & renew (bayat) with him.
But Mawlana Khalid said: This mihrab-altar is Sh Ismail's.
my position belongs to Sh Ismail.
Whomever listens to him, listens to me. Whomever does not listen is far from me.
There is Shams al Shumus. Have you heard of this book? G. No,I may write it down.
It has the Turkish & Ottoman Turkish versions. (Sun of Suns)
G. Is it the name of the book? M. It is the name of the book.
G. It's author is Hadrat Ismail Shirwani?
M. No, someone else. It mentions Hadrat Shirwani.
It talks about the life of Mawlana Khalid al Baghdadi.
G. And, also, there is a discussion whether he met with Abdullah ad-Dahlawi
M. Who? G. if Sh Ismail as-Shirwani & Abdullah Dahlawi met each other.
Gson: He asks if Sh Ismail as-Shirwani met Mawlana Baghdadi's Sheikh,
Sh Abdullah Dahlawi. He says it is said they did.
G. For example, Sh Hisham says, he went to India & met with Hadrat Dahlawi.
And Hadrat Dahlawi referred Sh Ismail to Mawlana Khalid al Baghdadi.
And, our Master in Sham says, he went till Basra,
he had an appearance-dhuhurat there, after this he returned to Sham and
he got tied to Mawlana Baghdadi, it says. M. Ok, if it says so...
We accept the truth of it. Gson: There are two rumours like this.
In everything, there are different romours, & sometimes disagreement.
G. And also, I visited Sh Shrafuddin's maqam last week, in Yalova.
And also visited Sh Abdullah Daghistani's maqam in Sham few years ago
Sh Shrafuddin has a book called, Menakib-i Serefiyye
written by Hasan Burkay, he died in 2006.
M. Hasan Burkay. What does it say in his book?
G. It says there that, Sh Sherafuddin said: "until the Day of Judgement
7 Tariqats will endure till the Day of Judgement, it says.
Only the Naqshibandi Order's effect will be strong, others will be weak.
M. Other Tariqats other than Naqshibandi order has stopped already.
The only effective way is the Naqshi order.
G. You have declarations stating that: the ones other than our tariqat
has turned into jamaat. Do they have any affects, methods?
Gson: He says other tariqats.. G. other Naqhshi branches..
Gson: other branches of Naqshibandi order.
M. other branches in Naqshibandi order? Gson. yes, they turned to Jamaat?
M. Now, they don't have authority-permission left anymore.
There is a main branch, for example, river Nile,
it goes & reaches all the way to the ocean.
But from Nile river, there are small canals going right, left
to water the farms.
These small canals stop after 1 meter. But the river Nile reaches the ocean.
G. These canals water the farm & give fruit or did they stop?
M. No, they stopped, not running anymore.
Therefore, there are so many Naqshi branches that
they have no Sheikh left anymore.
How many Naqshibandi braches are there in Turkey now..
none of them has any water left.. there is fountain but no water.
It is only one main branch now. But when they insist
Naqshi light does not advance with their insistence, they have to follow Naqhshi.
They have to find the main branch.
They don't look for it but, say: "this is our branch."
For example, Hasan Burkay's way has stopped. It is not original.
He has no one that replaced him.
Hasan Burkay had no one to replace him, the fountain has stopped, not running.
They become scattered, Hasan Burkay. Or, Othman..
Osman Topbas. His branch has stopped as well.
There is the fountain but water is not running.
Ramazanoglu was their Sheikh.. G. Mahmoud Sami Ramazanoglu.
M. It was his branch but it has stopped as well.
There is fountain but no water, it is cut.
Who stands on the way now is, Sh Mohammad Effandi.
G. In the researches about you, there is something that says,
it was criticized that Sh Nazim lets women kiss his hand.
How can we answer them with this study I am making?
M. Say that "Sh Effandi keeps the order of Divine Law-Shariat!"
Our school is Hanafi, not Shaf'i, it does not break our wudu.
G. I have my contact information here, I will continue my research.
I am also in contact with Sh Mohammad Effandi, if you have any order
I may do. I reside in Kars but I do my PhD in Ankara.
M. We are not the one to order.
We are a common person, who struggles on this way.
There are Great ones above, what can I do?
If they give me responsibility, I can handle, with the permission of Allah.
We reach from East to West.
When they don't give me a mission, I am here, like this,
sitting here, in a helpless position. What can I do?
Do we fight with people for the Tariqat? This is in the way of Allah.
Whereever a person finds the spiritual comfort, enlightenment
if there is a spiritual fountain of light, they may drink from it.
We don't have anything such as jealousy.
That feeling is finished in us long time ago. But they say that
"our sheikh has spiritual light" Ok, go to him then.
Whomever he left behind to replace him, continue with him, in the way of Allah.
This is not an earthly trade.
If you have someone among you, who can consult the Great ones,
he may ask, to the Master of the Naqshi Order, Shah al Naqshband:
"Is this person in the Golden Chain? Is he a true one or a liar?"
If they have men who can speak to Shah al Naqshiband!
If not,
they may ask to the spiritual presence of their own sheikh.
If they have such men who can ask. They may ask Hasan Burkay as well.
They may ask Shaykh Sami Effandi Hadrat.
How many more awliyas were there? G. There was Iskender Pasha.
They may ask the spiritual presence of all awliyas that passed away:
Is this person authorized?
Or not? They may ask.
If we had permission, then we would already...
we are only an ordinaru mureed, we are tyring to be mureed.
We don't have a claim for this world, finish! what will I do with it now?
But new ones are coming, the way is open till Mahdi (as).
You, young ones, may look. You may be with Sh Mohammad Effandi.
Don't look to anyone else!
The responsibility of Anatolia & Istanbul is on him.
He does not show it, he does not have a claim to be great, our son.
No, he does not care at all. Whoever comes, he shows a way.
He may apply or not. Our way is Dhikr. Read this and this.
He is reserved.
He has not opened yet.
Because he has not opened, he does not say anything. But us...
our class is the class of those who failed their classes.
I sit here & swear at whoever comes. My tariqat here is this way.
I swear at the ones who go into dirty ways. who understand from tariqat?
There is no one who knows about Shariat that I can speak of Tariqat!
But my language can reach from East to West.
For what? The Sheikh that swears!
If you are a Sheikh, then the one who gave you permission carry it.
I swear & sink them.
Ahlah wa Sahlan. Welcome.