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[CMADEOSSIBLE
BY U.SDEPARTMENT
OF EDUCATION and UNIVERSAL
TELEVISION]
RRY:HANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YO
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CRD: JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY: THANK YOU
THK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK U.
)eUHANYOU VERY !d.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
YOU KNOW,MOST TEENAGED BOYS
LIKE TO TRY OUT FOR THEIR
HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALOR
FOOTBALL TMS.
WELL, MY GUESTS TAY PREFER
TO TRY O THEIR MOTHER'S
BRAS AND DRSES.
FIRST GUEST, IT'S TE,
MY FIRST GUEST SAYS IS IN
LOVE WITHIS GIFRIEND
EVEN THOUGH HIS GIRLFRIEND
IS REALLY A MAN.
PLEASE WCO TAVIDOHE
SHOW.
TELL ME ABOUT YOUR
RELATIONSHIP.
>> I'VE BEEN WITH NIKI FOR
10 MONTHS.
SHE'S USED TO PFO FOR ME
AND FRIENDS
I HA CRUSH ON HER.
I STARTED TALKIN TOER AND
ONE THING LED TO ANOTHER.
JERRY: DID@@ YOU REALIZE NI
WAS REALLY BOY?
>> YEAH, I DID.
I LIKED HEROR WHO SHE WAS
SIDE, Y OR GIR
SHE HAD A GREAT RSALITY.
JERRY: SO YOU DON'T MIND
WHEN NIKI OR NICHOLAS AS THE
NAME HE WAS BORN WITH, WEARS
DRESSES?
>> NO, I DON'T MIND AT ALL.
IT'S NOT THE CLOTHES.
IT'S WHAT'SNSIDE.
JERRY: OK.
WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S
NECESSARY THEN FOR NICHOLAS
TO WEAR WOMEN'S DRESS IT'S
THE CLOTHING DOESN'T MATTER?
>> NIKI DOES IT FOR
PERFORMANCE.
SHE LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.
SHE DOES SHOWS.
AND IT'S FOR ENTERTAINMENT.
JERRY: SO YOU GUYS HAVE GONE
OUT TO A MOVIE OR SOMETHING,
SHE DOESN'T DRESS?
>> NO, SHE DOESN'T.
IT'S JUST FOR CLUBS OR
PERFORMANCES AND HER OWN
PERSON SELF-ESTEEM.
JERRY: YEAH.
AND YOU ARE VERY
>> YEAH, 10 MONTHS I'VE BEEN
WITH HER.
JERRY: YEAH, WHAT DO YOU
WANT TO -- WHAT DO -- WHY
ARE YOU HERE?
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE TLING
NIKI?
>> I'M GOIN TO PROPOSE TO
HER TODAY.
JERRY: IF NIKI SAYS YES, YOU
WANT HER TO WEAR A WEDDING
GOWN TO THE WEDING?
>> OF COURSE.
JERRY: OK.
SO YOU'LL BE IN THE TUX AND
--
>> I'LL IN THE TUX AND
SHE'LL BE IN THE WEDDING
DRESS.
JERRY: IF SHE SAYS YES.
NIKI DOESN'T KNOW, THIS
RIGHT?
>> NO.
JERRY: OH, OK.
SO REMEMBER, NIKI DOESN'T
KNOW THIS.
NOW LET'S MEET NIKI AND HEAR
NIKI'S STORY.
HERE IS NIKI.
JERRY: YO, NIKI, HOW YOU
DOING?
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
>> THANK YOU.
JERRY: YOU WERE BORN
NICHOLAS?
>> YES.
JERRY: AND AT WHAT AGE DID
YOU DECIDE YOU WANTED TO BE
NIKI >> SINCE THE DAY I WAS
BORN, HONEY.
JERRY: WELL, AS A YOUNG
BABY, OBVIOUSLY, AS A YOUNG
CHILD, YOU'RE NOT AWEAR OF
GENDER, WERE YOU?
>> YES, I WAS.
I MUST HAVE BEEN 4 OR 5
YEARS OLD.
I REMEMBER ONE DAY, I WENT
INTO MY MOM'S ROOM AND PUT
ON HER LIPSTICK.
I FELT LIKE ONE OF THE
CHARMIN GIRLS.
I PUT ON HER LIPSTICK AND I
WENT RUNNING AND SCREAMING.
MY MOM IS LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU
DOING?
SHE WAS JUST TERRIFIED.
SHE IS LIKE, NO, NO, TAKE
THAT OFF.
IT WAS FUN.
BUT I DON'T CARE.
JERRY: YOU ALWAYS FELT
BETTER.
>> AS A WOMAN, OH, YES.
JERRY: YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY
DRESSED AS AN TRACTIVE WOMAN
NOW.
BUT IN YOUR PERSONAL LIFE,
DO YOU DRESS AS A WOMAN OR
ONLY WHEN YOU PERFORM?
>> I DRESS AS A WOMAN WHEN I
PERFORM AND WHEN I GO
SHOPPING.
IT'S A LOT MORE CONVENIENT,
YEAH.
JERRY: WHAT'S YOUR
RELATIONSHIP LIKE WITH
DAVID?
>> IT'S WONDERFUL.
JERRY: DAVID MET YOU AS A
WOMAN?
>> YES, HE DID.
JERRY: WAS -- DID YOU THINK
DAVID KNEW YOU WERE REALLY A
GUY?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT DAVID
KNEW.
ALL I KNEW S. YOU KNOW, I
FOUND HIM ATTRACTIVE.
HE APPROACHED ME AFTER ONE
OF MY PERFORMANCES AND WE
JUST HIT IT OFF.
JERRY: IS IT -- I'LL AS YOU
THE QUESTION.
FEEL FREE EITHER TO ANSWER
OR SAY YOU'D RATHER NOT.
ARE YOU GAY?@@
>> OF COURSE.
JERRY: OK.
IF YOU'RE GAY, WHY IS IT
NECESSARY TO DRESS AS A
WOMAN?
>> BECAUSE IT'S FUN.
IT'S FUN.
I LOVE WHAT I DO.
LET'S FACE IT, I LOOK DAMN
GOOD.
JERRY: HOW YOU ARE DIFFERENT
OTHER THAN THE WAY YOU LOOK?
HOW ARE YOU DIFFERENT -- HOW
DO YOU FEEL DIFFERENTLY JUST
BECAUSE YOU PUT A DRESS ON?
IN OTHER WORDS, COULDN'T YOU
BE THE SAME PERSON DRESSED
AS A GUY?
>> NO.
JERRY: HOW IS THAT
DIFFERENT?
>> BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE A
WOMAN, YOU HAVE TO HAVEl YOU
KNOW, THE POTENTIAL AND THE
LOOK AND THE CHARISMA.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT ALL.
WHEN YOU'RE A MAN, OK,
YOU'RE JUST A REGULAR MAN.
WHEN YOU'RE A WOMAN, YOU
HAVE TO HAVE ATTITUDE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT ALL.
JAPE OK, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW
A PACKAGE NOW OF YOU
PREPARING YOUR CHANGE FROM A
GUY TO A WOMAN.
THIS IS WHAT YOU GO THROUGH
EVERY DAY WHEN YOU WANT TO
LOOK LIKE A WOMAN.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
>> HELLO, EVERYBODY.
I'M NIKI.
AND IT'S TIME TO BECOME A
WOMAN.@
>> I HAVE TO MAKE SURE MY
EYEBROWS A EVEN.
THEY'RE NOT EN.
TRUST ME, ANY QUEENUT
THERE WILLCK YO
THEY CAN BE AWFUL.
I SHOULD KNOW, I DID IT.
>> NOW, II WAS@ GOING TO
WEAR A D, I WOULD JUST
IT INIKE THIS.
4.
BUT SINCE I'M INGTO BE A
B TO A C TODAY, I'M GOING TO
FOLD IT AND INSERT THEAND
THEN PULL UP.
>> IF I HAD A STAGE, IT
WOULD BE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT
STORY, YOU KNOW?
MAYBE I SHOULD TRY ANOTR
OUTFIT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE
ANOTHER OUTFIT?
JERRY: OK.
UP NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO MEET
DAVID'S MOM WHO SAYS SHE
CANNOT STAND DAVID'S
LIFESTYLE OR HIS
RELATIONSHIP WITH NIKI.
STAY WITH US.
@@
JERRY: WHAT THER WOULD
4r
EXPECT HER SONO GRóW UP
ANBE IN LOVE WITH A
TEENAGED BOY WHO LIKES TO
JV
WEAR ESSES?
THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES
WE'RE DEING WITH.
WE HAVE BNALKING WITH
DAVID AND NIKI.
THEY HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR
10 MONTHS, WHATEVER, NEARLY
A YEAR.
AND NIKI WAS BORN NICHOLAS.
SINCE A VERY YOUNG AGE FELT
HE WAS MORE A WOMAN THAN A
MAN.
ENJOYS DRESSING UP AS A
WOMAN.
BUT DAVID, WE'RE GOING TO
HEAR -- WE'RE GOING TO MEET
YOUR MOTHER NOW AND FIND OUT
WHAT SHE THINKS ABOUT YOUR
LIFESTYLE.
AND HERE IS DAVID'S MOTHER,
SUSAN.
>> YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE
WEARING A TRASH BAG TODAY.
>> GET OVER IT.
IT'S JUST BECAUSE YOUCAN'T
WEAR IT.
JERRY: AT WHAT AGE DID DAVID
COME TO YOU AND SAY HE WAS
GAY?
>> AFTER HE GRADUATED FROM
SCHOOL, AFTER I SPENT
MONEY TO PUT HIM IF A MOTEL
ROOM WITH A WOMAN AT HIS
GRADUATION.
JERRY: WHY DID YOU DO THAT?
>> HE WAS GOING TO MARRY A
COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND GO INTO
SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW -- HE'S
STILL CONFUSED.
JERRY: WHY DID YOU PAY FOR A
WOMAN FOR HIM?
>> BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE
A NICE NIGHT.
I PUT A *** IN HIS
WALLET.
YOU KNOW, HE GRADUATED FROM
HIGH SCHOOL.
WENT IN A JAGUAR WITH A
CHAUFFEUR, YOU KNOW?
JERRY: WHAT DO YOU THINK
ABOUT DAVID'S RELATIONSHIP
WITH NIKI?
>> I DOT LIKE IT AT ALL.
JERRY: YOU TALK TO DAVID AND
NIKI.
>> I'M AFRAID OF YOU GETTING
MY SON BASHED.
4r>> HE AIN'T GOING TO GET
BASHED, HONEY.
>> THERE IS ALL KINDS OF
CRAP OUT THERE.
>> IT AIN'T LIKE.
THAT >> I'M 50 YEARS OLD, I
KNOW ABOUT REALITY.
>> YOU OW, EVERYTHING IS
CHANGING
IT'S CHANGING.
JERRY: DAVID, WHAT DO YOU
WANT TO SAY TO YOUR MOM?
>> MOM, IT'S MY LIFESTYLE,
I'M OVER 18.
THEN MOVE OUT.
JERRY: DAVID, YOU SAID
YOU'RE GAY.
WHY -- WHY THENDO YOU WANT
A GUY TO LOOK LIKE A WOMAN?
>> WELL, I USED TO HAVE A
BOYFRIEND.
HE WAS A BOY.
BUT AFTER THE RELATIONSHIP,
HE TURNED INTO A DRAG QUEEN
AND MORE FEMININE.
I GUESS START LIKING IT.
JERRY: DID YOU THINK THAT
YOU WOULD LIKE BEING WIT A
WOMAN?
>> I'VE BEEN WITH WOMEN
BEFORE.
BUT IT'S --
>> WHAT ABOUT LAST NIGHT?
>> EXCUSE ME.
>> NO, ExCUSE ME.
WHEN HE'S WITH ME --
>> HE WAS WITH A WOMAN LAST
NIGHT.
>> WHEN HE'S WITH ME, HE CAN
HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH
WORLDS.
>> WHY WAS HE ON THE PHONE
WITH A GIRL LAST NIGHT AND
YOU WERE WATCHING TV?
>> SHE WAS A FRIEND, MOM.
>> YEAH, RIGHT.
JERRY: MOM, WHAT ABOUT THE
NOTION THAT, WELL, HOW OLD
YOU ARE, DAVID?
>> 19.
JERRY: YOU KNOW, YOU DO WHAT
YOU CAN AS YOU RAISE YOUR
CHILD.
NOW CHOICES.
IF THIS IS THE CHOICE HE
MAKES, GOD BLESS YOU, GO FOR
IT.
BUT IN MY HOUSE, I DON'T
HAVE TO PUT UP WITH IT.
YOU KNOW?
JERR NIKI, ARE YOU OK WITH
NOT DRESSING AS A WOMAN WHEN
YOU'RE IN HER HOUSE?
>> NO.
THIS IS WHAT I DO.
I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE FOR
ANYBODY.
IF I DON'T CHANGE FOR MY OWN
MOTHER, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK
I'M GOING TO CHANGE FOR
SOMEBODY ELSE'S MOTHER?
JERRY: OK, I'LL TELL YOU
WHAT?
>> BECAUSE MY MOM HAS BEEN
ACCEPTING AND EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT
PARENTS OUT THERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I RESPECT YOU, SUSAN.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU HAVE
TO RESPECT ME ALSO AS A
PERSON.
OK?
YOU GOT TO GET TO KNOW ME.
JUST BECAUSE I DRESS LIKE A
WOMAANS AT I'M
SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND OUT
OF YOUR CATEGORY.
JERRY: WELL, YOU'RE A LITTLE
BIT DIFFERENT.
NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO MEET
NIKI'S MOTHER WHO SAYS HER
SON IS SO GORGEOUS IN A
DRESS THAT HE CAN PUT A
WOMAN TO SHAME AND THAT
DAVID IS LUCKY TO HAVE A GUY
LIKE NIKI.
STAY WITH US.