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Montse Ferrer interview by Alish
Montse Ferrer interview by Alish
My name is Montse Ferrer
and I am member
of Oikos Ambiental Association
that is located here in Mataró
and we are dedicated to the subject of
report
and fight against electromagnetic pollution
For what reason, are you affected or ...?
This organization
This organization was created in 2004 through which we learn that we had Mobile phone base stations 23 meters from our home
after we digged about this matter then we saw
that in a line Straight ahead from us there were two more base stations
different companies
and moreover that these Mobile phone base stations were sharing the infrastructure, with the other companies , the radiant systems were shared with other companies
Following there, we started mobilizing and create the association to defend our rights because what we want is that this is ...
We are not against people communicate far from or progress
but of progress that are biocompatible and these technologies as and these technologies as
says Barrie Trower, George Carlo, Dr. Olle Johansson of the Institute
Karolinska, Dr. Martin ...scientists nationwide, also: Dr Emili Mayayo,
Claudio Gómez-Perreta whith his Study of the Ñora (Murcia, Spain) ...
These technologies, this technology, the technology currently used
the wireless systems
used by mobile telephony
is not biocompatible.These frequencies are not biocompatible and so we started working on this topic
and it is what we fight since 2004.Personally, Are you affected too? I'm, also concerned so, that's why we organize ourselves as a
an NGO without profit
because it was the only way to submit roles, you can claim
in from of municipalities, asking road use
because since 2004 we demonstrated damage outside the town hall
informing the public and from
thus there have been put no more mobile base stations these large phone mobile base stations
because people are greatly concerned here in Mataró and they do not want them, they do not want them
Those that are set will be very difficult removing them,but people do not want Mobile phone base stations because
Thanks to these claims from us as organization and
thanks to the residents of the District of Cerdanyola
which already long ago were fighting, the neighborhood association, the Quarter of Cerdanyola, with one,
one of those who are within this association
called Antonio Ruiz, they helped us to organize us and thanks to them
we have been doing these claims that we are doing from 2004 to now
and now we have decided that instead
of going to the city council because they have put us the wireless systems
as we have been able to stop the issue of locations in residential buildings,
as I said before it will be very difficult to remove those that already are, but people,
people are already greatly concerned; they no longer want
and as they have put wireless systems in front of the council that is where we made concentrations, me as a person affected I can not go there any more
and what we are doing now is
at civic centers, Public Spaces of the Town Hall
we ask , thanks that we are an association,
so we ask for these Public Spaces , these multipurpose spaces
and where they do yoga
or painting
or at the Pompeu Fabra Library , they let us do
these exposures and what we are doing
now is not on the street but within centers
that are for citizenship
activities and that
is what we are doing right now,
Let's see, in a nutshell, sums up what is the situation of Mataró, the town where you live? At the present moment, the situation in Mataró
thanks to
to the claims
that we are
taking they are not installing any more mobile
base stations ,but it is true that companies are trying to
enlarge them, shared them in a whole
in these in these locations that are about 35 mobile phone base stations, which we previously saw as those big ones
mobile phone base stations
have become smaller, they are systems shared with other companies
and they are being very difficult withdrawing
and on the other hand, what we we are seeing is that
they are making an implantation of peak antennas ,
smaller antennas, which are camouflaged,
and the wifi system that is being incorporated in the whole city of Mataró
,a lot of wifi points within the city of Mataró. How many antennas,
How you call them? antennas, or wifi ?
No, the ... telephony base stations
35 are in Mataró, 35 that we know
How do you call them? telephony base stations
How many are there in Mataró? 35 ,For a population of ? of 120,000are
to 140,000 inhabitants , I think we are
140,000 inhabitants Is this the usual ratio? In what sense ? I do not ..
of population for square meter ...
Well, I do not know, what there is in other populations, but we assume that even in some places
may have even more . I think so, that in Mataró
Mataró is not a special situation
this should be the same situation in everywhere, - everywhere
in the global world it is happening the same
and furthermore, that they are doing, apart from these macro infrastructures, they are making
these micro cells
and these micro cells can be
can be affixed to the side of the windows of residential buildings
Are peak antennas, which are also here in Mataró , in Riera's street we can find them ,
they are smaller antennas, on the facade of the communities
or on the facades of the marquees of the comercial centers
and there and it is the same, they are the same .. Alish: and the large ones as I have seen it they are been camouflaged ...
the large ones are been disguising as chimneys
also but you can find them hidden in the trees, in palm
inside marquees as we said, now, practically , they are systems as fireplaces, also inside fireplaces.
This is like a white block
as if it was an extension of the building
of white colour and just like a box but this is one, this is a one type
, but then you can find them like a chimney, metal chimneys,
but inside there is the antenna. Alish: Here very close to your home, in the building next door there is an antenna
it affects you, and all the neighbors, obviously, what did you do at home to fix this problem?
In my case with the first and second generation of mobile telephony hardly I noticed anything , it was on the third generation, what we call UMTS that works on 2100 MHz
that works on 2100 MHz
so that you could connect and watch videos
well, to download packets of information, not just talk,
download things by the internet
Alish: the third generation that we have of mobile phone Yes, yes , it is when I began to feel bad and what was wrong ? that when I was in the master bedroom and what was wrong ?
that when I was in the master bedroom I woke with a brutal heat stroke, at first did not happen, it was as cumulative
well, this is really cumulative
The first few months, maybe, I did not notice it
I did not notice it, but it was cumulative and so
what happened was that I was soaked,as heat stroke
as a rise of temperature
as if you were in the sun and you were irradiated directly by sunlight
there in full daylight
and your body became red and you look like a lobster, there, ah!
and you get sweaty, then I was completely sweaty and then what I was feeling that in the central area of the brain
as if it was opened with a knife
so what I did was leaving that place, I tried to relax myself
The thing disappeared.Then I explained this to a doctor
a friend of mine which is a doctor and he said, well look
what you can do
is leave the room where you sleep
get away from the source, from the beam ,from direct radiation
you get away.And yes,of course,
we went away from the source and we went to the living room
We have moved. So, that room is for storage
we do not have living room (because we moved the sleeping room to the living room) that we do not care,because at least our health is protected
we think
well , we will see what we can endure
and then what we did was put a curtain against radiation
but these curtains of copper and silver, they were burned because the beam
the bundle of the beam burned the curtains,
where the beam impinged ,with the maximum radiation.
then, of course, we had to find, some curtains, a material that was not too inexpensive
and protect us
and we found out an aluminum material, doubled side,
with air bubbles between the two layers
and the truth is that it could not be better for us.
you see, but this is very high for sleeping in this room ; even with these values we can not sleep in this room. there Are 0.4 V / m we can not sleep herea. There , in the living room, we have 0,19 V/m
We say tell people don't do Faraday cages , as says Barrie Trower, where the beam, where the maximum radiation is pointing
where the beam as the light that causes the car headlamp, there
Alish: only on that wall? not on the entire wall of the room? Only on that wall Alish : not on the entire wall of the room? No, no, no
Because, of course, we are an electric field from head to foot and our differential never be zero
then, what is happen? that they induce us these electrical currents your body will go charging from electricity
and also the house, because imagine what would happen would be the remedy worse than the disease
So, we always say it's like
Barrie Trower says
put only protection ,he is a former British military intelligence, scientist, retired .
Practically ,I think he is the one who has worked more over the frequencies of mobile telephony
and he always says in the main part, where the beam is directed.
Like you're in the sun and you wear a parasol, you get the umbrella, then , it does not touch you (directly)
Therefore, the same, where, where Alish: and have you proof that on the scope
of this particular antenna there are more sick people , or has been more health problems? Yes, we have several neighbors who are.
for example, we have a neighboring who has to leave, every bit, now she is out in Galicia
because there comes a time when your body is so electrified that she can not cope with it any more
she leaves for a while; she takes a hormone to sleep (melatonin) because it affects her to (radio frequencies) her pineal gland
then when she's here (in your home) she has to take sleeping hormone (melatonin)
and when she goes to Galicia in an area that does not have ... , well, let me tell you, you can see the radiations are everywhere
all around, but because that does not irradiate her in such a brutal way on her body and at her home, then she recovers and after she stays two days in Galicia , she has not to take
the hormone pill (melatonin) anymore .Some people will think, well... Alish: and sicker, more degenerative diseases, cancer... because ,of course ,
because ,of course ,one thing are sensitive people like you who perceive it and this is perhaps an advantage -it is an advantage, I think it is an advantage
as says, as Olle Johansson says from Institute,
Ph Olle Johansson, del Instituto Karolinska, los que nos demos cuenta, podemos poner un remedio
those who are not aware, a cancer may appear,
and they will not be able to do a remedy, perhaps we will never have a cancer
because we are putting remedies I do not say that it will not have it but
maybe we will not have it Why? because ,
ok, it is a co-promoter
and which induces cancer ,obviously
But if I know what's happening to me I can put a
well , let's see, if I can put a damper I can not avoid it completely but
but if I was sleeping in the sleeping room and I can go, I can go to another area as a friend of mine which is a doctor told me
"So get out of the high radiation
you get away from it , you must put distance it is what we have done, Alish: A doctor did tell you ? A doctor told me,
Alish: So, are they aware? Doctors are aware. Alish: Did he tell you because it was your friend?
Yes, of course, he is my friend. Yes, he told me.
But I think, more and more
Doctors are aware of this issue what it happens, I think
maybe missing a little more oomph and I think the people
people that go to doctor with electrohypersensitivity symptoms, being electrified,
of to have been compromised the central nervous system,
and if the central nervous system is compromised ,
it compromises to the hormonal system , the immune system and all , the whole
your whole system is wrong ( your whole system malfunctions)
I think with all that is, not only us
but there are many groups in Spain that are, that are working on this issue
I think that little by little
There are many doctors, each day that they are going to see it more doctors, that from primary care centers they are already reporting of this
and some people are reporting
and I think they will understand that the human body is electric from head to foot,
that this is an electromagnetic induction. that we are not inventing anything.
that thanks to the Faraday's Law that is why work
the mobile antennas and that this law exists for 180 years
and from now on I think doctors will understand more
I think that every day will see more doctors
from primary care as has happened with fibromyalgia or
or as has happened with chronic fatigue, or as happened
to chemical sensitivity to chemicals I think that every time there will be more people who will understand
I mean from medicine, not only the alternative, but also from the allopathic medicine
to which we go first instance,
primary care center,
your doctor,to your family doctor that will understand this is so
and they will understand that if there are these sources
will understand that people can get sick
and there is a warning that is the electrohypersensitivity we are all
sensitive to electric fields, all of us, but that continued exposure to EMF
generates this hypersensitivity and if left unchecked it can lead to other diseases
if left unchecked it can lead to other diseases
can cause serious diseases. It is a warning
but I think that more and more people are going to see, not just doctors
that we all already know as Dr Olle Johansson of the Karolinska Institute Dr. Martin, Dr. Claudio Gómez-Perreta, biologist, Dr. Portolés
Ph Belpomme, well all we know
both nationally and internationally,
I think, that ever going to see, Dr. Emili,
all these people I think have contributed
in a short time what I think it is that is going to be recognize that
we really are an electric body and that really
and that we are really induced by this (EMF)
it's my , it's my it is what I think
I hope I will not be wrong because unfortunately many people who will become electrohipersnsible
if it is not, if it is not put a stop to this. And it's as easy as putting optic fiber
inform all neighbors, all neighboring communities that turn off the wifis
using the cable instead of
of the mobile, that use it only in emergencies,
install wired systems in schools,
in public libraries but if is not reported it and it is unclear from primary care
Alish: You, as an association have filed against to town hall of Mataró two contentious administrative proceedings to the Court .
Why exactly?
Because, well, first our health has been touched very deeply leaving
we were forced to leave our sleeping bedroom and we are living, We are sleeping in the living room
but unfortunately the contentious administrative proceedings from the
viewpoint of public health
you can not, you can not attack much
we have to tackle the question that they have got licenses, from our point of view, contrary to law. contra legem-
within the meaning of urban planning, urban planning
in the sense
they are developing a use disallowed
The distances are not being respected and that there are schools ahead.
this industry applications represent a dangerous,
harmful,
unhealthy activity beside buildings residential,
we are not just talking about no ionizing electromagnetic field radiation
which uses obile telephony we are talking about of a crushing noise,
about noises and vibrations devastating that this plant is causing
by the generators,
by the refrigeration is brutal, is ... I do not understand
why we have to cope to live with this
when is an industry and industries can not be together with residential buildings
if they have this dimension
with everything that has this central , this is an industry exploitation , it is so brutal that
it should be in a polygon They do not allow me to explode this , They will never allow me to install this
Alish: So, what you request is to denie the licences to phone companies? - Yes, but that they have been granted.
but that they have been granted.
We won a contentious administrative in Court ,
saying it was in violation the law ,
we won because we denounce the UMTS has not licenses
then what did they do?
they gave them the license and continue to function.
They paid (Town Hall of Mataró) 20:01 They paid us the legal costs ( Town Hall of Mataró)
because we won contentious administrative in Court
and had to pay us the procedural costs ( ( Town Hall of Mataró) but shortly after
the environmental licenses were granted and from our point are failing 29,
at least 29 or 30
regulations, from the planning point of view,
this plant, 29 breaches. Let's see if they let you,
if you get a license with 29 breaches I think myself that not
And Do you have any response by the Town Hall ? I recently... we had,
were talking to a Municipal technique
and well she asked me about this topic as Oikos how we had this matter
that as Oikos that what we were going to do about it
and I told her that we had very clear the question that we wanted to relocate,
we wanted to relocate the antennas outside of residencial spaces
as says the Agenda 21,
put them outside in a polygon,and well , the thing was ... then the judge will decide
that's the reply that I got from them , then he judge will decide...
Alish: Do you think phone companies, telecommunications companies
they 'll be interested
to stop putting these antennas or that there is something that can actually be done?
You told me before, You talked me about a very interesting book that talks about this. Yes, there is a book that is called the White Rabbit,
published by Editorial Planeta written by Nino Treusch
which is a writer coming from marketing, he has worked,
I think 12 years for a mobile phone company in Cologne (Germany)
and this, and this book explains
this very well ,
that it is very clear that it is very complicated because the entire economy base is currently is being based on the mobile phone
if, for example, prohibiting all this
would be an economic catastrophe almost could be substantially worse than
the housing bubble. Of course there is much in all this
but we do not say that disappear the mobile phone or that disappears the jobs
what we're asking for it is for a biocompatible frequencies and that everything can be wire
that of course it is possible, for example, radio links,should be placed wire ,
by fiber optic cable , is this is the future of the connections
and yes, this is what we are asking for
I connect to internet, I talk on the phone, but I do it
by wired one
and I have ADSL internet but wired
for me it would be impossible to think to use a wireless system knowing everything I know
but why? because I am a graceful person
and because I had, I had the opportunity to attend a conference
of Mobile Telephony and Health held in my city in 2004
and this opened my eyes Well, I think if to many parents,
many politicians,
many colleges, many AMPAS (Association of Parents of Students),
public libraries, public spaces, they had issued these issues
then I think people would do like me
or we
or as members of our organization that we prefer wired and if the cable is shielded much better instead of wireless technology
instead of using systems that are biocompatible and if they are not biocompatible they
they are affecting my central nervous system
and if my central nervous system is compromised are being compromised other things in my body
and I think it's the solution; that it should be reported ,
it shoud be explained and distributed
what does mean electromagnetic pollution
and radiation within all frequencies
and that we have always coexisted with them,but these frequencies that uses the tecnology are not natural ,
they are unnatural ones,
Alish: Do you know if schools are moving here to remove the wifi of the classrooms? Yes,
yes, there are two, two colleges,
I mean institutes, The Biada Miquel
that they are already changing it , they already are changing it
the director
is a very involved person, he knows so much of this subject and
they are changing the system, they are removing all wifi and then there is the Thos i Codina ,also,
also
they have the project to change the system
I do not know if any other school in Mataró
but there are two Institutes that already are removing the wifi .. Alish: you were saying that, sometimes, in the AMPAS (Association of Parents of Students) of the schools usually can be some infiltrators.
Can you explain this? Yes, for what we understand, I have no documentation, but what we have found
is that when you go to a school and want to withdraw wi-fi system
you find that there is a person working
in telecommunications,
that is the computer expert and is connected
with wireless companies
and then he says it's okay , he explaines to the parents that everything is fine
and the children remain irradiated when we know this is devastating
for children, because children also when they are small ...
their system is more reactive,because it is growing and it is more reactive then
, of course, these children are more at risk
that's why, there are so many children, it seems that there are a great number of
small children with chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia , small children! nowadays
because I think it was in the conference held at the Vall d'Hebron (Barcelona), that it seen to be devastating, devastating
Then of course, we find with this, we have found with this
and not only in Mataró they have told us that is it global , generally when a school
prevents
to withdraw he wifi system
because there are parents who would remove the wifi system is because there is someone
who has conflicts of interest. There are conflicts of interest
and that you just have to throw a bit of thread and you say, oh look already this!
And this is so. well , it isn't I have documentation about that
but it is known that works for the company ,for some company,
or who is involved or
or who might in their free time go to that company or who knows
Alish: What is? Before we've been walking around with a device that measures..?
Electric field intensity,which is the peak, the peaks
and then it measures the power density ,which is the average. Alish: What is
the minimum recommended , supposedly , in order not to be dangerous?
Well, here in 2008
came the BioInitiave Report, sorry in 2007,
and said it had to be at 0.6 V / m
but, you see here is a table,
but, Salzburg 2001
does not recommend this,sorry, 2002, Salzburgo 2002
which must be at 0.02 V / m, 0.02 V / m outdoors
then, it is clear that,
the level, what level of electromagnetic artifical pollution that has to be
therefore, 0 level into your houses externally, outside,
well look, if you're at 0.6 V / m or 0.02 V / m, well look, you must cope with it because you know what there is outside
So now you see, and start hot spots and children play here.This is the children's playground.
see 1, 6V / m,now begin to increase the level, as you can see this is where children play
As you see this is the children's playground Alish: should this be by a wifi or ...?
No, this is the antenna (Mobile phone base station).Now I'll show you.
Now I will show the antenna (Mobile phone base station).I believe that there , there is a wifi point. But here already begins-Mobile phone base station-, antenna (measuring levels)
Now, here begins and the antenna-Mobile phone base station- There should be a wifi point coming from the school office.But, now, here and begins the antenna (Mobile phone base station), levels,
Here, there is a point, that at noon, I have measured
Wait , now you will see the antenna It was raising almost 2 V/m I want to see , if I can locate this point, you see now already it starts raising the value, the children play here
Look, to seeing if I can locate the point, it is that before, at noon, there was a higher value, more radiation, but, well, the children are here, The children are in the garden of playtime
and they are receiving this jet of microwaves. As if they were a highway
But it is sure here the children play every day
and
And then you have to sum up to them if they go to their house
and the neighbors have installed wifi
or the wireless systems and parents have PDAs and the whole bit this
and as you can imagine, adds up and continues
Is for measuring the radiofrequency Alish: Is this only for radio frequencies? Yes, ok, ranges from 300 MHz to
8 GHz, 8000 MHz Alish :What measures? In V / m
electric field intensity
or power density uW/m2
this is, as it is called
This is the average and this is the peak
V / m is the peak
and the power density is in uW/m2,
which would be the average
And now we're going up... Alish: And a device like that is very expensive? this costs 400-500 euros , I think .
We brought it from England (Price: £242.60 excl. VAT (non-EU customers) and £291.12 incl. VAT (EU customers) Alish: It is not bad, No.
Alish: but it is expensive
this should be measurable by the whole world. But it is fine within the possibilities , it is a great RF-Microwave Radiation Measurement
there are few meters that you can measure with sound (demodulation)
that will detect all wireless systems,
because through sounds
can tell you if it is a wifi, if it is a Tetra,
If it falls within these ranges (Wide Frequency Range (200MHz-8000MHz. .. 8GHz) Alish: That is , By the sound can you know what it is? About what pollution does it treat ?
Yes, yes, it can tell if it is a wifi, if it is a mobile phone base station first, second, third generation
depends on the frequency, according to whether the frequency is
800 MHz,
900MHz, 1800 MHz if it is of 2100 MHz
if it is of 5 GHz
If now we were forward they would be raising the V/m
And the density of power This is what I proved one day, you see, it looks , you see
You see it, as you are approaching, do you see it? Yes Now 1.62 V / m, we were at 0.2 V / m Now we are closer to the antenna and facing it
Hello! Man: will we be on the news of TV of Mataró? What? Man: will we be on the news of TV of Mataró? I do not know on what news,
As you can see 1,62 V/m, 1,95 V/m as you get closer to the antenna goes up the value
as you get closer to the antenna goes up the value My God, 2,18 V/m and if we were next to the antenna, then without words Alish: Stop, Stop for a moment, because I want to take pictures of the mobile phone antenna.
Alish: Stop, Stop for a moment, because I want to take pictures of the mobile phone antenna. My God
Look 2 V/m, 3 V/m ,look like it rises. You see, as you approach the antenna
if there is nothing in between the value rises
Now, if there is something between the way the value is kept or it would go down would depend
because the beam would be deflected
would go to other way,that is why there are Hot spots on one side and not in others points
depend on whether there are metallized areas,of metal
But what it is unheard
that your house that is for the rest, it would be to recover
and it's your home sweet home and that should be sacred is not
because they use your house
and your body like a highway and they are violating your fundamental rights
they are violating your privacy
In addition, it is clear, without you want it : At the moment, these technologies, wireless,
these frequencies
have the ability to penetrate buildings and the body abosorve them
so people feel unwell ,so that's why there is the electrohypersensitivity
because it interacts with your electrical system
that is why you are warned,and that is why It tell you you're attacking me, take care, there is a foreign agent
a physical agent, in this case non-ionizing radiation
that is attacking me
that I interpret as
an aggressor and I am defending from the attack if you ignore me then you shalt put on sick.then, clearly, in your house should be zero radiation
I do not have to cope with this at home.
There is a sentence of Iberdrola,against Iberdrola , Luis Mazon won this ,
he is a lawyer from Murcia (Spain), that were 14 years of litigation,
14 years ,
by a transformer,very low frequencies,of very low frequencies but even laughable
Precisely , the mobile telephony,
it is pulsed and modulated by very low frequencies
and the lawsuit was gained against Iberdrola because in this house
had 0.04 nanoteslas, I do not remember exactly the level there was
but the judge said no, no, if you do not know if this is good or bad then zero pollution
They left the house and they went to life in an other place
Eventually (Iberdrola) they have had to buy a house for the same equivalent,
They (Iberdrola) have had to pay damages and prejudices to them
They have been 14 years of lawsuit, eh,
What is the radiation that we found on the streets?
So we found a radiation condition, I think there were some points
0.97 V / m, I think we have found this value
but, well it is far superior to what is saying the BioInitiative Report
and what it is saying Salzburg 2002,
this is brutal and of course, you have to add
that there is no point in the city to save yourself from radiation. It is all flooded with radiation,Some points it is true we've seen that are in values of 0.40 V / m
other points at 0.27 V / m
if
you do not stand in front of the antennas or at points that are a little shade
And when do you stand in front of the antennas? Well, it's brutal,when you stand in front of the beam(of the rays)
It's *** .I think we have measured
in front of the school
where is the
recreation area, where is the playground for children, for the elementary school children
and the Tabalet,
the daycare ,I think it was almost 2 V / m
and parents do not know this
Inside the car 2.6 V / m,Well, it's a lot, eh Sure, with the wifi system, this is the wifi. I am sure this is the wifi Alish: Because we are below the wifi antenna . Yes, for sure, this is the wifi . Because the other (mobile base station) does not reach this point, the other one (mobile base station) is looking to the side. Aalish: It's huge ((mobile base station)this is the wifi irradiation. I am sure. That's why we are all electrified
this is the wifi irradiation That's why we are all electrified -------- Alish: Is that box , is that the antenna?
No, It is up What Do you mean up ? Can you see it ? ah! Ok, ok , ok and goes the cable to the box,Of course, that will be the power cord
yes, the power cord,without power this would not work, you need a transmission equipment
Alish: next to a school (mobile phone base station and wifi). Incredible. what's This ? You hear wifi, mobile phones and you hear the GSM, the third generation
Then this is cumulative, but also go home and the neighbor has it , these children will sleep with it and if they have the misfortune
having a relay station in front of their house
these children, so there are many sick children
it is no wonder they are with fibromyalgia practically children of 8 or 9 years
practically children of 8 or 9 years
Alish: Montse to finish,
Have you been able to help someone? -Yes- What satisfactions have you got ?
We have helped a lot of people,but one of the cases that deeply touched our heart
this person died, rest in peace,
was a person who called us from Terrassa (Barcelona, Spain,) he was worried for a mobile phone base station
that it was almost 500 meters from his house,The antena was practicaly heading his house , but he was very concerned because he said he was not feeling well,his wife was pregnant
the puppy was sick ,also.They had another baby
He did not he told us but he was dying,but when we went there(at his home)
wanted to start with administrative contentious
and well, this deeply touched my heart and to my husband , also, because because, really, the problem he had was that
he had cordless phones, he had several cordless phones and he had the wifi
He removed all these wireless systems, he removed all
and after about 3 or 4 days he call me,I said before do not start fights,
enjoy life,you've spent a lot: an accident at work, you go in a wheelchair,
Cancer also,I say hey enjoys life
And stop all this and only you have to remove this wireless systems
After three days he called me and says look Montse
I sleep like a baby,I have no problems, I do not wake up at night,and this is the experience that we get.
After a while, I kept sending him emails, but he did not send me anything back ,until one day, his wife Montse,his wife says, look, finally,
My husband left us this ..., very dramatically,
My husband left us this ..., very dramatically, He has abandoned us,he's gone to the other side of the river,during August of last year or the year before, I do not remember
but it is a case
that, really, for us this was...
I feel like crying,
but it is a case that, really, for us this was... I feel like crying,
I am moved to tears because I feel a deep emotion
because I feel a deep emotion
because, I think that ..
I do not know.. we are working for a good cause
for persons that I think it has served some,
For persons,we can't deny it's been worth it that has been useful
I think it has served some,we can't deny it's been worth it