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"INDIANA NEWSDESK" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY...
>> RIGHT NOW ON "INDIANA NEWSDESK..." AMTRAK SAYS IT'S
NEWSDESK..." AMTRAK SAYS IT'S PREPARING FOR AN IMPENDING SPEN
PREPARING FOR AN IMPENDING SPEN SUN SHUN OF SERVICE ON THE
SUN SHUN OF SERVICE ON THE HOOSIER STATE RAIL LINE.
HOOSIER STATE RAIL LINE. WHY SOME SAY THE STATE'S
WHY SOME SAY THE STATE'S RELUCTANCE TO FULLY FUND THE
RELUCTANCE TO FULLY FUND THE LINE IS INDICATIVE OF A BIGGER
LINE IS INDICATIVE OF A BIGGER PROBLEM.
PROBLEM. >> WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSED FIRST
>> WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSED FIRST AND FOREMOST OF ROADS.
AND FOREMOST OF ROADS. SO OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION
SO OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION A BACKSEAT ALL THE WAY AT THE
A BACKSEAT ALL THE WAY AT THE BACK OF THE BUS.
BACK OF THE BUS. >> 11,000 UNDERGROUND STORAGE
>> 11,000 UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS ARE SCATTERED ACROSS
TANKS ARE SCATTERED ACROSS INDIANA AND DUE TO THE PRESSURE
INDIANA AND DUE TO THE PRESSURE THEY'RE UNDER THEY CAN SOMETIMES
THEY'RE UNDER THEY CAN SOMETIMES LEAK TOXIC CONTAMINANTS INTO THE
LEAK TOXIC CONTAMINANTS INTO THE GROUND.
GROUND. >> PEOPLE WERE DRINKING THE
>> PEOPLE WERE DRINKING THE WATER AT LEVELS IN THEIR PARTS
WATER AT LEVELS IN THEIR PARTS PER BILLION RANGE, LIKE 1
PER BILLION RANGE, LIKE 1 MOLECULE OF GASOLINE IN THE SIZE
MOLECULE OF GASOLINE IN THE SIZE OF A SWIMMING POOL ALMOST,
OF A SWIMMING POOL ALMOST, THAT'S ENOUGH TO CAUSE HARM TO
THAT'S ENOUGH TO CAUSE HARM TO SOMEONE IF THEY DRUNK IT.
SOMEONE IF THEY DRUNK IT. >> WHO PAYS FOR THE CLEANUP AND
>> WHO PAYS FOR THE CLEANUP AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S NO
WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S NO MONEY.
MONEY. THOSE STORIES AND A LOOK AT THE
THOSE STORIES AND A LOOK AT THE WEEK'S TOP HEADLINES RIGHT NOW
WEEK'S TOP HEADLINES RIGHT NOW ON "INDIANA NEWSDESK."
>> HELLO. I'M JOE HREN.
I'M JOE HREN. WELCOME TO "INDIANA NEWSDESK."
WELCOME TO "INDIANA NEWSDESK." WE COME TO YOU FROM STUDIO 6 OF
WE COME TO YOU FROM STUDIO 6 OF THE IU RADIO AND TELEVISION
THE IU RADIO AND TELEVISION CENTER IN BLOOMINGTON.
CENTER IN BLOOMINGTON. "INDIANA NEWSDESK" IS THE
"INDIANA NEWSDESK" IS THE CULMINATION OF PLANNING AND HARD
CULMINATION OF PLANNING AND HARD WORK WITH NOT ONLY OUR STAFF AND
WORK WITH NOT ONLY OUR STAFF AND CREW BUT THE MERGER OF THE WFIU
CREW BUT THE MERGER OF THE WFIU AND WTIU NEWSROOMS A FEW YEARS
AND WTIU NEWSROOMS A FEW YEARS AGO.
AGO. TONIGHT WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING
TONIGHT WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING TO YOU OUR FIRST EVER BROADCAST
TO YOU OUR FIRST EVER BROADCAST OF "INDIANA NEWSDESK."
OF "INDIANA NEWSDESK." THE HOOSIER STATE RAIL CARRIES
THE HOOSIER STATE RAIL CARRIES ABOUT 37,000 PEOPLE FROM
ABOUT 37,000 PEOPLE FROM INDIANAPOLIS TO CHICAGO EACH
INDIANAPOLIS TO CHICAGO EACH YEAR.
YEAR. BUT ITS FUTURE IS IN JEOPARDY AS
BUT ITS FUTURE IS IN JEOPARDY AS THE STATE AND AMTRAK TRY TO WORK
THE STATE AND AMTRAK TRY TO WORK OUT A DEAL TO PAY FOR IT.
OUT A DEAL TO PAY FOR IT. AT SARA WITTMEYER REPORTS SOME
AT SARA WITTMEYER REPORTS SOME PEOPLE ARE CRITICIZING THE STATE
PEOPLE ARE CRITICIZING THE STATE FOR ITS LACK OF INVESTMENT IN
FOR ITS LACK OF INVESTMENT IN ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF
ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION.
>> IT'S NEARLY MIDNIGHT AND THE HOOSIER STATE IS ARRIVING BACK
HOOSIER STATE IS ARRIVING BACK AT DOWNTOWN'S UNION STATION.
AT DOWNTOWN'S UNION STATION. IT TOOK FIVE HOURS TO GET HERE.
IT TOOK FIVE HOURS TO GET HERE. THAT'S A COUPLE HOURS LONGER
THAT'S A COUPLE HOURS LONGER THAN IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN TO
THAN IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN TO DRIVE IT BUT ENGINEER BRUCE
DRIVE IT BUT ENGINEER BRUCE FRANK SAYS TRAIN TRAVEL OFFERS A
FRANK SAYS TRAIN TRAVEL OFFERS A LOT OF ADVANTAGES.
LOT OF ADVANTAGES. >> I'M 6'4".
>> I'M 6'4". 300 POUNDS.
300 POUNDS. A LINE MAN BUILT PERSON.
A LINE MAN BUILT PERSON. I TOOK A TRAIN, ME AND MY LADY
I TOOK A TRAIN, ME AND MY LADY TOOK A TRAIN OUT TO CALIFORNIA,
TOOK A TRAIN OUT TO CALIFORNIA, AND ENJOYED IT.
AND ENJOYED IT. I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT DRIVING.
DRIVING. I DIDN'T HAVE TO BE WORRIED
I DIDN'T HAVE TO BE WORRIED ABOUT CRAMPED ON AN AIRPLANE.
ABOUT CRAMPED ON AN AIRPLANE. >> FOUR DAY AS WEEK, SUNDAY,
>> FOUR DAY AS WEEK, SUNDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY,
TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY, THE TRAIN LEAVES HERE AT 6:00
THE TRAIN LEAVES HERE AT 6:00 A.M. AND ARRIVES BACK ABOUT
A.M. AND ARRIVES BACK ABOUT MIDNIGHT.
MIDNIGHT. THE ROUTE IS JUST SHY OF 200
THE ROUTE IS JUST SHY OF 200 MILES.
MILES. IF THE ROUTE WERE LONGER ITS
IF THE ROUTE WERE LONGER ITS FATE WOULDN'T BE IN QUESTION.
FATE WOULDN'T BE IN QUESTION. IT'S ONLY ROUTES LESS THAN 750
IT'S ONLY ROUTES LESS THAN 750 MILES THAT ARE LOSING FEDERAL
MILES THAT ARE LOSING FEDERAL FUNDING.
FUNDING. SO THE STATE NEEDS TO COME UP
SO THE STATE NEEDS TO COME UP WITH $3 MILLION TO COVER THE
WITH $3 MILLION TO COVER THE COST OF THE TRAIN'S ANNUAL
COST OF THE TRAIN'S ANNUAL OPERATING EXPENSES.
OPERATING EXPENSES. >> THERE'S NOT A GO-TO FUND
>> THERE'S NOT A GO-TO FUND NECESSARILY FOR THESE TYPES OF
NECESSARILY FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE
THINGS, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH IN
THINGS WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH IN TERMS OF WHERE ARE THE FUNDS
TERMS OF WHERE ARE THE FUNDS SUPPOSED TO COME FROM FOR
SUPPOSED TO COME FROM FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
SOMETHING LIKE THIS. >> THE LEGISLATURE ALSO
>> THE LEGISLATURE ALSO AUTHORIZED THE STATE DEPARTMENT
AUTHORIZED THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO SPEND THE
OF TRANSPORTATION TO SPEND THE MONEY TO KEEP THE RAIL GOING.
MONEY TO KEEP THE RAIL GOING. BUT IT DIDN'T MANDATE IT.
BUT IT DIDN'T MANDATE IT. >> I THINK IT WAS AN EXPRESSION
>> I THINK IT WAS AN EXPRESSION OF THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT THAT
OF THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT THAT THEY WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN.
THEY WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN. >> THE TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
>> THE TIME IS RUNNING OUT. OF THE 19 STATES AFFECTED BY THE
OF THE 19 STATES AFFECTED BY THE LOSS OF FEDERAL MONEY, INDIANA
LOSS OF FEDERAL MONEY, INDIANA IS THE ONLY ONE IN THE MIDWEST
IS THE ONLY ONE IN THE MIDWEST STILL NEGOTIATING WITH AMTRAK.
STILL NEGOTIATING WITH AMTRAK. >> I THINK WE HAVE BEEN
>> I THINK WE HAVE BEEN PARTICULARLY SLOW.
PARTICULARLY SLOW. I THINK ON ALL THE STATES' PARTS
I THINK ON ALL THE STATES' PARTS THEY'VE HAD PLENTY OF NOTICE
THEY'VE HAD PLENTY OF NOTICE ABOUT THIS.
ABOUT THIS. >> HERE'S HOW THE MONEY BREAKS
>> HERE'S HOW THE MONEY BREAKS DOWN.
DOWN. THE HOOSIER STATELINE'S ANNUAL
THE HOOSIER STATELINE'S ANNUAL EXPENSES ARE ABOUT $3.87
EXPENSES ARE ABOUT $3.87 MILLION.
MILLION. LAST YEAR IT CARRIED ABOUT
LAST YEAR IT CARRIED ABOUT 37,000 PASSENGERS.
37,000 PASSENGERS. IF EACH PASSENGER'S TICKET COST
IF EACH PASSENGER'S TICKET COST $24, THAT TRANSLATES INTO TICKET
$24, THAT TRANSLATES INTO TICKET REVENUES TOTALING JUST LESS THAN
REVENUES TOTALING JUST LESS THAN $900,000.
$900,000. THAT MEANS THE STATE WOULD HAVE
THAT MEANS THE STATE WOULD HAVE TO KICK IN ABOUT $80 FOR EACH
TO KICK IN ABOUT $80 FOR EACH PASSENGER'S TICKET TO SUBSIDIZE
PASSENGER'S TICKET TO SUBSIDIZE IT.
IT. >> WE'RE LOOKING TO MAXIMIZE
>> WE'RE LOOKING TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE IN ORDER TO HELP MAKE
REVENUE IN ORDER TO HELP MAKE THE SERVICE SUSTAINABLE.
THE SERVICE SUSTAINABLE. >> TRAIN RIDERSHIP IS GROWING
>> TRAIN RIDERSHIP IS GROWING AND BREAKING RECORDS.
AND BREAKING RECORDS. ONE THING NEARLY EVERYONE CAN
ONE THING NEARLY EVERYONE CAN AGREE UPON IS IF YOU IMPROVE THE
AGREE UPON IS IF YOU IMPROVE THE SERVICE AND INCREASE THE
SERVICE AND INCREASE THE FREQUENCY OF THE TRAINS, MORE
FREQUENCY OF THE TRAINS, MORE PEOPLE WILL RIDE THEM.
PEOPLE WILL RIDE THEM. AND GENERATE MORE TICKET
AND GENERATE MORE TICKET REVENUE.
REVENUE. WHICH, IN TURN, WOULD DECREASE
WHICH, IN TURN, WOULD DECREASE THE AMOUNT THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS
THE AMOUNT THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO PAY.
TO PAY. BUT ADDING A SECOND ROUTE OR
BUT ADDING A SECOND ROUTE OR MAKING THE TRAINS FASTER OR,
MAKING THE TRAINS FASTER OR, SAY, ADDING WI-FI, IT COSTS
SAY, ADDING WI-FI, IT COSTS MONEY.
MONEY. >> THE BEST THING INDIANA COULD
>> THE BEST THING INDIANA COULD DO WOULD BE TO KEEP THE SERVICE
DO WOULD BE TO KEEP THE SERVICE AND ADD -- HAVE TWO TRAINS A DAY
AND ADD -- HAVE TWO TRAINS A DAY EACH WAY INSTEAD OF ONE TRAIN.
EACH WAY INSTEAD OF ONE TRAIN. SO YOUR INVESTMENT WOULD GO FROM
SO YOUR INVESTMENT WOULD GO FROM THREE TO, SAY, FIVE OR 6
THREE TO, SAY, FIVE OR 6 MILLION.
MILLION. EVEN WITH THAT, IT IS JUST SUCH
EVEN WITH THAT, IT IS JUST SUCH A SMALL, SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE
A SMALL, SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL STATE BUDGET DEVOTED TO
OVERALL STATE BUDGET DEVOTED TO TRANSPORTATION.
TRANSPORTATION. >> INDOT'S BUDGET FOR THE
>> INDOT'S BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR IS JUST
UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR IS JUST MORE THAN $2 BILLION.
MORE THAN $2 BILLION. THE STATE SPENDS ABOUT 3% OF
THE STATE SPENDS ABOUT 3% OF THAT ON ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF
THAT ON ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION.
TRANSPORTATION. WHICH INCLUDES THINGS SUCH AS
WHICH INCLUDES THINGS SUCH AS TRANSIT AND RAIL CROSSINGS.
TRANSIT AND RAIL CROSSINGS. THAT'S MUCH LESS THAN MOST OF
THAT'S MUCH LESS THAN MOST OF INDIANA'S NEIGHBORS.
INDIANA'S NEIGHBORS. >> IT'S JUST BEEN THE TRADITION
>> IT'S JUST BEEN THE TRADITION HERE THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED
HERE THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED FIRST AND FOREMOST ON ROADS.
FIRST AND FOREMOST ON ROADS. SO OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION
SO OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION TAKE A BACKSEAT ALL THE WAY AT
TAKE A BACKSEAT ALL THE WAY AT THE BACK OF THE BUS.
THE BACK OF THE BUS. >> WE SUBSIDIZE ROADS TO THE
>> WE SUBSIDIZE ROADS TO THE TUNE OF HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
TUNE OF HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
DOLLARS. SUBSIDIZING PASSENGER RAIL IN
SUBSIDIZING PASSENGER RAIL IN ORDER TO BUILD OUR FUTURE IS A
ORDER TO BUILD OUR FUTURE IS A SMART MOVE.
SMART MOVE. >> AMONG THE THINGS INDOT IS
>> AMONG THE THINGS INDOT IS CONSIDERING IS POSSIBLY RAISING
CONSIDERING IS POSSIBLY RAISING RATES, MAKING THE PASSENGERS
RATES, MAKING THE PASSENGERS TAKE ON MORE RESPONSIBILITY.
TAKE ON MORE RESPONSIBILITY. INDOT IS ALSO WORKING WITH
INDOT IS ALSO WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES ALONG THE ROUTE AND
COMMUNITIES ALONG THE ROUTE AND TRYING TO GET THEM TO CONTRIBUTE
TRYING TO GET THEM TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE COST OF KEEPING THE TRAIN
TO THE COST OF KEEPING THE TRAIN GOING.
GOING. >> WE'RE WILLING TO BE PART OF
>> WE'RE WILLING TO BE PART OF THE PIE, JUST NOT THE WHOLE PIE.
THE PIE, JUST NOT THE WHOLE PIE. >> SARA WITTMEYER JOINS US FOR
>> SARA WITTMEYER JOINS US FOR MORE ON THIS STORY.
MORE ON THIS STORY. SARA, THE STATE COMMISSIONED A
SARA, THE STATE COMMISSIONED A COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS THAT WAS
COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME OUT THE MIDDLE
SUPPOSED TO COME OUT THE MIDDLE OF THIS MONTH TO TALK ABOUT DO
OF THIS MONTH TO TALK ABOUT DO WE DISTINCT, DO WE IMPROVE OR
WE DISTINCT, DO WE IMPROVE OR JUST KEEP IT STATUS QUO.
JUST KEEP IT STATUS QUO. WHAT ARE THE NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT
WHAT ARE THE NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT NOW?
NOW? >> THE REPORT IS SUPPOSED TO
>> THE REPORT IS SUPPOSED TO COME OUT MID-SEPTEMBER AND THEN
COME OUT MID-SEPTEMBER AND THEN THEY SAID WE MIGHT LEARN MORE.
THEY SAID WE MIGHT LEARN MORE. YESTERDAY AT A TRANSPORTATION
YESTERDAY AT A TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING IN
COMMITTEE MEETING IN INDIANAPOLIS THE MEETING WAS
INDIANAPOLIS THE MEETING WAS CANCELED.
CANCELED. WE FOUND THE REPORT ON INDOT'S
WE FOUND THE REPORT ON INDOT'S WEB SITE AND REALLY THERE
WEB SITE AND REALLY THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF SURPRISES.
WEREN'T A LOT OF SURPRISES. THERE WERE THE SIX DIFFERENT
THERE WERE THE SIX DIFFERENT OPTIONS, DOING AWAY WITH THE
OPTIONS, DOING AWAY WITH THE RAIL, MAINTAINING STATUS QUO AND
RAIL, MAINTAINING STATUS QUO AND THEN FOUR DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENT
THEN FOUR DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENT OPTIONS.
OPTIONS. WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE
WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS WAS THAT
COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS WAS THAT THE BENEFITS DID NOT OUTWEIGH
THE BENEFITS DID NOT OUTWEIGH THE COSTS.
THE COSTS. SO OF THE FOUR PROPOSED OPTIONS,
SO OF THE FOUR PROPOSED OPTIONS, WITH EACH ONE OF THEM IT WOULD
WITH EACH ONE OF THEM IT WOULD RANGE BETWEEN 4 AND $10 MILLION
RANGE BETWEEN 4 AND $10 MILLION THAT THE STATE WOULD STILL HAVE
THAT THE STATE WOULD STILL HAVE TO PUT IN AND THAT DOESN'T
TO PUT IN AND THAT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR ANOTHER $230 MILLION
ACCOUNT FOR ANOTHER $230 MILLION AND INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIRS THAT
AND INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIRS THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO MAKE TO THE
THEY WOULD NEED TO MAKE TO THE LINE JUST IMPROVEMENTS.
LINE JUST IMPROVEMENTS. BUT THE ONE THING IS THAT THE
BUT THE ONE THING IS THAT THE SUBSIDY THE STATE PAYS WOULD
SUBSIDY THE STATE PAYS WOULD LIKELY GO DOWN ACCORDING TO THE
LIKELY GO DOWN ACCORDING TO THE COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS BECAUSE TO
COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS BECAUSE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS MORE PEOPLE
MAKE IMPROVEMENTS MORE PEOPLE WILL RIDE.
WILL RIDE. SO THE SUBSIDY WOULD RANGE
SO THE SUBSIDY WOULD RANGE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 32 AND $42 PER
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 32 AND $42 PER PASSENGER INSTEAD OF THE $80.
PASSENGER INSTEAD OF THE $80. >> SARA, HOW COMMON IS IT FOR
>> SARA, HOW COMMON IS IT FOR STATES TO SUBSIDIZE RAIL?
STATES TO SUBSIDIZE RAIL? >> VERY COMMON.
>> VERY COMMON. THERE'S ONLY ONE RAIL IN THE
THERE'S ONLY ONE RAIL IN THE COUNTRY THAT'S NOT SUBSIDIZED.
COUNTRY THAT'S NOT SUBSIDIZED. >> I WOULD HAVE TO GUESS EAST
>> I WOULD HAVE TO GUESS EAST COAST, BIG CITY NEW YORK,
COAST, BIG CITY NEW YORK, D.C. --
D.C. -- >> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S ON THE NORTHEAST.
IT'S ON THE NORTHEAST. IT'S ACTUALLY A RAIL BETWEEN
IT'S ACTUALLY A RAIL BETWEEN BOSTON AND D.C. AND THAT'S THE
BOSTON AND D.C. AND THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T RECEIVE
ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T RECEIVE ANY SUBSIDIES.
ANY SUBSIDIES. BUT THAT TRAIN IS VERY, VERY
BUT THAT TRAIN IS VERY, VERY FAST AND IT ALSO TRANSPORTS A
FAST AND IT ALSO TRANSPORTS A LOT OF PEOPLE.
LOT OF PEOPLE. >> SO OCTOBER 1st IS ONLY A
>> SO OCTOBER 1st IS ONLY A FEW DAYS AWAY.
FEW DAYS AWAY. IS THE RAIL GOING TO SHUT DOWN?
IS THE RAIL GOING TO SHUT DOWN? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. INDOT HAS SAID THAT THE DATE
INDOT HAS SAID THAT THE DATE WOULD BE MORE LIKE OCTOBER
WOULD BE MORE LIKE OCTOBER 16th BUT AS LONG AS THEY'RE IN
16th BUT AS LONG AS THEY'RE IN GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS BY
GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS BY OCTOBER 1st, THEY CAN CONTINUE
OCTOBER 1st, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE UNTIL THEY REACH AN
TO NEGOTIATE UNTIL THEY REACH AN AGREEMENT.
AGREEMENT. FOR ITS PART, AMTRAK HAS SENT
FOR ITS PART, AMTRAK HAS SENT NOTICES TO PASSENGERS AND A FEW
NOTICES TO PASSENGERS AND A FEW EMPLOYEES SAYING, WE ARE
EMPLOYEES SAYING, WE ARE PREPARING FOR AN IMPENDING
PREPARING FOR AN IMPENDING SUSPENSION OF SERVICE.
SUSPENSION OF SERVICE. SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW.
SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. I SPOKE TO SOMEONE FROM AMTRAK
I SPOKE TO SOMEONE FROM AMTRAK YESTERDAY AND HE DID DESCRIBE
YESTERDAY AND HE DID DESCRIBE THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE STATE
THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE STATE AS BEING VERY PRODUCTIVE,
AS BEING VERY PRODUCTIVE, THOUGH.
THOUGH. >> WELL, THERE'S A LOT MORE ON
>> WELL, THERE'S A LOT MORE ON THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WE DON'T
THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR RIGHT NOW BUT IT'S
HAVE TIME FOR RIGHT NOW BUT IT'S ON OUR WEB SITE, IS THAT RIGHT?
ON OUR WEB SITE, IS THAT RIGHT? >> IT IS, WTIU NEW WTIUNEWS.ORG.
>> IT IS, WTIU NEW WTIUNEWS.ORG. >> A LOT MORE TO REPORT ON AS
>> A LOT MORE TO REPORT ON AS TIME GOES ON.
TIME GOES ON. NOW WE GO TO ALEX DIERCKMAN WITH
NOW WE GO TO ALEX DIERCKMAN WITH A LOOK AT THIS WEEK'S TOP
A LOOK AT THIS WEEK'S TOP STORIES.
STORIES. >> A NEW POLL SHOWS A MAJORITY
>> A NEW POLL SHOWS A MAJORITY OF HOOSIERS SAYING USING A
OF HOOSIERS SAYING USING A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO DEAL
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO DEAL WITH SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS THE
WITH SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS THE WRONG COURSE.
WRONG COURSE. LAWMAKERS MUST APPROVE THE
LAWMAKERS MUST APPROVE THE ANDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE
ANDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE NEXT SESSION FOR IT TO APPEAR ON
NEXT SESSION FOR IT TO APPEAR ON THE BALLOT NEX NEXT FALL.
THE BALLOT NEX NEXT FALL. AN ORGANIZATION FOCUSED ON
AN ORGANIZATION FOCUSED ON CONVINCING THE LAW MAKES TO HALT
CONVINCING THE LAW MAKES TO HALT PROGRESS CONDUCTED THE POLL.
PROGRESS CONDUCTED THE POLL. THE POLL SAYS 46% WOULD OPPOSE
THE POLL SAYS 46% WOULD OPPOSE IT COMPARED TO 43%.
IT COMPARED TO 43%. IN A STATEMENT SENATE PRESIDENT
IN A STATEMENT SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEM DAVID LONG SAYS THE
PRO TEM DAVID LONG SAYS THE INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS OF THE
INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS OF THE CAUCUS ARE PRIVATE AND WOULD NOT
CAUCUS ARE PRIVATE AND WOULD NOT COMMENT ON THE POLL.
COMMENT ON THE POLL. DOZENS OF GE WORKERS PROTESTED
DOZENS OF GE WORKERS PROTESTED LAYOFFS OF 160 EMPLOYEES OUTSIDE
LAYOFFS OF 160 EMPLOYEES OUTSIDE THE COMPANY'S BLOOMINGTON PLANT
THE COMPANY'S BLOOMINGTON PLANT THURSDAY.
THURSDAY. GE ANNOUNCED EARLIER THIS MONTH
GE ANNOUNCED EARLIER THIS MONTH IT WAS LAYING OFF THE EMPLOYEES
IT WAS LAYING OFF THE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE OF A 30% DECLINE
BECAUSE OF A 30% DECLINE INSIDE-BY-SIDE REFRIGERATOR
INSIDE-BY-SIDE REFRIGERATOR SALES SINCE 2010.
SALES SINCE 2010. >> THEY WANTED TO BRING -- HIRE
>> THEY WANTED TO BRING -- HIRE 200 PEOPLE.
200 PEOPLE. INSTEAD THEY'RE LETTING 160 OF
INSTEAD THEY'RE LETTING 160 OF US GO.
US GO. THEY PROMISED -- THEY PROMISED
THEY PROMISED -- THEY PROMISED BASICALLY JOBS FOR OUR KIDS IF
BASICALLY JOBS FOR OUR KIDS IF THEY WANTED THEM.
THEY WANTED THEM. THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.
THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. >> PROTESTERS WANT GE TO OFFER
>> PROTESTERS WANT GE TO OFFER RETIREMENT TO ELIGIBLE
RETIREMENT TO ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES.
EMPLOYEES. THEY SAY THAT WOULD DECREASE THE
THEY SAY THAT WOULD DECREASE THE LAYOFFS TO JUST 30.
LAYOFFS TO JUST 30. IN A STATEMENT, GE SAID IT WAS
IN A STATEMENT, GE SAID IT WAS COMMITTED TO TAKING CARE OF
COMMITTED TO TAKING CARE OF EMPLOYEES IMPACTED BY THE
EMPLOYEES IMPACTED BY THE LAYOFFS.
LAYOFFS. GREG DISOALER IS JOINING 39
GREG DISOALER IS JOINING 39 OTHER ATTORNEYS GENERAL IN
OTHER ATTORNEYS GENERAL IN ASKING THE FDA TO PUT TOUGHER
ASKING THE FDA TO PUT TOUGHER RESTRICTIONS ON E-CIGARETTES.
RESTRICTIONS ON E-CIGARETTES. THE INITIATIVE AIMS TO DETER
THE INITIATIVE AIMS TO DETER TEEN USE OF E-CIGARETTES AND
TEEN USE OF E-CIGARETTES AND COMES ONLY A FEW WEEKS AFTER THE
COMES ONLY A FEW WEEKS AFTER THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL
CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL RELEASED A STUDY SAYING 1 IN 10
RELEASED A STUDY SAYING 1 IN 10 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TRIED AN
HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TRIED AN E-CIGARETTE IN THE LAST YEAR.
E-CIGARETTE IN THE LAST YEAR. THAT NUMBER DOUBLED FROM 20 LEAN
THAT NUMBER DOUBLED FROM 20 LEAN STATISTICS.
STATISTICS. E-CIGARETTES ARE NOT REGULATED
E-CIGARETTES ARE NOT REGULATED THE SAME WAY TRADITIONAL TOBACCO
THE SAME WAY TRADITIONAL TOBACCO IS WITH NO AGE REQUIREMENTS TO
IS WITH NO AGE REQUIREMENTS TO PURCHASE THEM AND NO
PURCHASE THEM AND NO RESTRICTIONS ON ADVERTISING.
RESTRICTIONS ON ADVERTISING. THE GROUP OF ATTORNEYS GENERAL
THE GROUP OF ATTORNEYS GENERAL URGED THE FDA TO MEET AN OCTOBER
URGED THE FDA TO MEET AN OCTOBER 31st DEADLINE TO ESTABLISH
31st DEADLINE TO ESTABLISH MARKETING AND AGE RESTRICTIONS.
MARKETING AND AGE RESTRICTIONS. SUICIDE IS THE THIRD LEADING
SUICIDE IS THE THIRD LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG COLLEGE
CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG COLLEGE ATHLETES.
ATHLETES. AS BRANDON SMITH REPORTS, A TASK
AS BRANDON SMITH REPORTS, A TASK FORCE OF ATHLETIC TRAINERS, KEY
FORCE OF ATHLETIC TRAINERS, KEY PHYSICIANS AND SPORTS CAN I CALL
PHYSICIANS AND SPORTS CAN I CALL GISTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
GISTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NCAA ARE URGING COLLEGES AND
NCAA ARE URGING COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES TO ADOPT NEW
UNIVERSITIES TO ADOPT NEW GUIDELINES TO RECOGNIZE AND HELP
GUIDELINES TO RECOGNIZE AND HELP STUDENT ATHLETES WITH MENTAL
STUDENT ATHLETES WITH MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS.
HEALTH CONCERNS. >> SPORTS MEDICINE AND MENTAL
>> SPORTS MEDICINE AND MENTAL HEALTH PRAW FESH NULINGS SAY
HEALTH PRAW FESH NULINGS SAY STUDENT ATHLETES HAVE UNIQUE
STUDENT ATHLETES HAVE UNIQUE STRESSORS THAT LEAVE THEM AT
STRESSORS THAT LEAVE THEM AT RISK FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES
RISK FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES WITH YOU YET SEEKING HELP STILL
WITH YOU YET SEEKING HELP STILL CARRIES A POWERFUL STIGMA IN THE
CARRIES A POWERFUL STIGMA IN THE ATHLETIC COMMUNITY.
ATHLETIC COMMUNITY. WILL HEININGER IS A PLAYER WHO
WILL HEININGER IS A PLAYER WHO SUFFERED FROM DEPRESSION.
SUFFERED FROM DEPRESSION. HE SAYS YOUNG ATHLETES NEED TO
HE SAYS YOUNG ATHLETES NEED TO KNOW THE PROBLEMS THEY'RE
KNOW THE PROBLEMS THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH AREN'T SOMETHING
STRUGGLING WITH AREN'T SOMETHING TO BE ASHAMED WITH.
TO BE ASHAMED WITH. >> MY ADVICE WOULD BE OPEN UP,
>> MY ADVICE WOULD BE OPEN UP, TALK ABOUT IT, ACT LIKE IT'S A
TALK ABOUT IT, ACT LIKE IT'S A BROKEN WRIST OR SOMETHING ELSE
BROKEN WRIST OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S A PHYSICAL AILMENT YOU
THAT'S A PHYSICAL AILMENT YOU WOULD GET HELP FOR.
WOULD GET HELP FOR. >> GUIDELINES DEVELOPED BY A
>> GUIDELINES DEVELOPED BY A TASK FORCE LED BY THE NATIONAL
TASK FORCE LED BY THE NATIONAL ATHLETIC TRAINERS ASSOCIATION
ATHLETIC TRAINERS ASSOCIATION OUTLINED WAYS ATHLETIC TRAINERS
OUTLINED WAYS ATHLETIC TRAINERS TEAM PHYSICIANS, COACHES AND
TEAM PHYSICIANS, COACHES AND TEAMMATES CAN RECOGNIZE THE
TEAMMATES CAN RECOGNIZE THE SIGNS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL CONCERNS
SIGNS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL CONCERNS AND REFER THOSE DEALING WITH
AND REFER THOSE DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES TO THE
MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES TO THE RIGHT RESOURCES.
RIGHT RESOURCES. THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR
THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR SPORTS MEDICINE TIM NEAL WHO
SPORTS MEDICINE TIM NEAL WHO CHAIRS THE TASK FORCE SAYS
CHAIRS THE TASK FORCE SAYS SCHOOLS AND ATHLETIC PROGRAMS
SCHOOLS AND ATHLETIC PROGRAMS NEED TO ACT WITH URGENCY ON THE
NEED TO ACT WITH URGENCY ON THE ISSUE.
ISSUE. >> IT'S THE BIG TOPIC NOW.
>> IT'S THE BIG TOPIC NOW. WE HAVE FAR MORE MANY ATHLETES
WE HAVE FAR MORE MANY ATHLETES SEEKING HELP FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL
SEEKING HELP FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL CONCERNS.
CONCERNS. >> NEAL SAYS THE TASK FORCE ALSO
>> NEAL SAYS THE TASK FORCE ALSO WANTS TO SPREAD THE GUIDELINES
WANTS TO SPREAD THE GUIDELINES TO THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL WHERE
TO THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL WHERE MANY MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES CAN
MANY MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES CAN INITIALLY DEVELOP.
INITIALLY DEVELOP. >> AND MARTINSVILLE RESIDENTS
>> AND MARTINSVILLE RESIDENTS ARE CALLING FOR A PEDESTRIAN
ARE CALLING FOR A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY OVER HIGHWAY 37 AFTER A
WALKWAY OVER HIGHWAY 37 AFTER A MAN WAS HIT AND SKILLED THERE
MAN WAS HIT AND SKILLED THERE LAST MONTH.
LAST MONTH. THE 28-YEAR-OLD MAN WAS TRYING
THE 28-YEAR-OLD MAN WAS TRYING TO CROSS THE FOUR-LANE HIGHWAY
TO CROSS THE FOUR-LANE HIGHWAY WHEN HE WAS STRUCK BY A CAR.
WHEN HE WAS STRUCK BY A CAR. MARTINSVILLE MAYOR SAYS THE CITY
MARTINSVILLE MAYOR SAYS THE CITY HAS LODGED COMPLAINTS WITH THE
HAS LODGED COMPLAINTS WITH THE STATE AND HAS ASKED FOR A
STATE AND HAS ASKED FOR A CROSSWALK OR PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.
CROSSWALK OR PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. AN INDIANA DEPARTMENT OF
AN INDIANA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SPOKESMAN SAID
TRANSPORTATION SPOKESMAN SAID HIS DEPARTMENT IS IN FREQUENT
HIS DEPARTMENT IS IN FREQUENT DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE IN
DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE IN MARTINSVILLE.
MARTINSVILLE. INDOT IS PLANNING FOR I-69 AND
INDOT IS PLANNING FOR I-69 AND WHAT IT WILL BE ABLE TO
WHAT IT WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE WHEN IT REPLACES
ACCOMMODATE WHEN IT REPLACES HIGHWAY 37.
HIGHWAY 37. JOE?
JOE? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALEX.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALEX. COMING UP NEXT ON "INDIANA
COMING UP NEXT ON "INDIANA NEWSDESK," WHY SOME CONTAMINATED
NEWSDESK," WHY SOME CONTAMINATED UNDERGROUND TANKS SIT FOR YEARS
UNDERGROUND TANKS SIT FOR YEARS BEFORE THEY ARE CLEANED UP.
BEFORE THEY ARE CLEANED UP. OUR STATEIMPACT SEGMENT TAKES A
OUR STATEIMPACT SEGMENT TAKES A LOOK AT INDIANA'S EDUCATION
LOOK AT INDIANA'S EDUCATION SYSTEM.
SYSTEM. TONIGHT MORE ON A POSSIBLE
TONIGHT MORE ON A POSSIBLE RECORD JUMP IN INDIANA SCHOOLS
RECORD JUMP IN INDIANA SCHOOLS VOUCHER ENROLLMENT PROGRAMS.
VOUCHER ENROLLMENT PROGRAMS. AND WE TAKE A LOOK BACK AT WHAT
AND WE TAKE A LOOK BACK AT WHAT WAS MAKING NEWS IN SEPTEMBER OF
WAS MAKING NEWS IN SEPTEMBER OF 1971 IN OUR HISS TWRE "HISTORY
1971 IN OUR HISS TWRE "HISTORY THROUGH HEADLINES" SEGMENT
THROUGH HEADLINES" SEGMENT COMING UP NEXT.
>> WELCOME BACK TO "INDIANA NEWSDESK."
NEWSDESK." BUSINESSES HAVE LONG USED
BUSINESSES HAVE LONG USED UNDERGROUND TANKS TO STORE ALL
UNDERGROUND TANKS TO STORE ALL SORTS OF CHEMICALS FROM DRY
SORTS OF CHEMICALS FROM DRY CLEANING FLUIDS TO INDUSTRIAL
CLEANING FLUIDS TO INDUSTRIAL SOLVENTS TO FUELS SUCH AS
SOLVENTS TO FUELS SUCH AS GASOLINE AND DIESEL.
GASOLINE AND DIESEL. 11,000 OF THEM ARE IN USE ACROSS
11,000 OF THEM ARE IN USE ACROSS INDIANA, MOSTLY AT GAS STATIONS.
INDIANA, MOSTLY AT GAS STATIONS. THE STATE REQUIRES TANK OWNERS
THE STATE REQUIRES TANK OWNERS TO FOLLOW A HOST OF REGULATIONS.
TO FOLLOW A HOST OF REGULATIONS. THAT'S BECAUSE EACH A RELATIVE
THAT'S BECAUSE EACH A RELATIVE THIMBLEFUL OF MANY TANK'S
THIMBLEFUL OF MANY TANK'S CONTENTS CAN CAUSE EXTENSIVE
CONTENTS CAN CAUSE EXTENSIVE POLLUTION.
POLLUTION. BUT AS SEHVILLA MANN REPORTS
BUT AS SEHVILLA MANN REPORTS WHEN A PROPERTY BECOMES
WHEN A PROPERTY BECOMES CONTAMINATED IT SITS FOR YEARS
CONTAMINATED IT SITS FOR YEARS WHILE THE OWNER AND GOVERNMENT
WHILE THE OWNER AND GOVERNMENT WRANGLE OVER WHO SHOULD TAKE THE
WRANGLE OVER WHO SHOULD TAKE THE NEXT STEP.
NEXT STEP. >> MANAGING UNDERGROUND TANKS
>> MANAGING UNDERGROUND TANKS LAWFULLY ISN'T CHEAP.
LAWFULLY ISN'T CHEAP. BLOOMINGTON BUSINESS OWNER
BLOOMINGTON BUSINESS OWNER JEFFREY SCOFIELD RECENTLY HAD
JEFFREY SCOFIELD RECENTLY HAD ONE REMOVED FROM THE FORMER OIL
ONE REMOVED FROM THE FORMER OIL CHANGE STATION HE PLANS TO TURN
CHANGE STATION HE PLANS TO TURN INTO A RETAIL SPACE.
INTO A RETAIL SPACE. IT TOOK CREWS SEVERAL HOURS TO
IT TOOK CREWS SEVERAL HOURS TO CLEAN THE 4,000 GALLON TANK
CLEAN THE 4,000 GALLON TANK BEFORE THEY PULLED IT OUT WITH
BEFORE THEY PULLED IT OUT WITH AN EXCAVATOR.
AN EXCAVATOR. SCOFIELD EXPECTS THE REMOVAL TO
SCOFIELD EXPECTS THE REMOVAL TO RUN HIM 10 TO $12,000.
RUN HIM 10 TO $12,000. THAT'S NOT INCLUDING INCIDENTALS
THAT'S NOT INCLUDING INCIDENTALS LIKE THE SIDEWALKS THE CREW HAD
LIKE THE SIDEWALKS THE CREW HAD TO SAW THROUGH.
TO SAW THROUGH. >> SO THERE'S MORE MONEY.
>> SO THERE'S MORE MONEY. BUT STILL I THINK WE'RE DOING IT
BUT STILL I THINK WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT.
RIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO
IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE A CLEAN PROCESS.
BE A CLEAN PROCESS. NOW, IF THEY WERE TO HAVE FOUND
NOW, IF THEY WERE TO HAVE FOUND ANY CONTAMINATION, THEN THAT'S A
ANY CONTAMINATION, THEN THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE.
WHOLE OTHER ISSUE. >> AMAZING AMOUNT OF STRESSES
>> AMAZING AMOUNT OF STRESSES THOSE TANK SYSTEMS ARE UNDER.
THOSE TANK SYSTEMS ARE UNDER. IF YOU CAN IMAGINE CARS AND
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE CARS AND TRUCKS ROLLING OVER ON THE
TRUCKS ROLLING OVER ON THE CONCRETE.
CONCRETE. CONCRETE IS NOT SO RIGID.
CONCRETE IS NOT SO RIGID. IT FLEXES.
IT FLEXES. ALL THAT PRESSURE ON THAT SYSTEM
ALL THAT PRESSURE ON THAT SYSTEM AS IT MOVES EVER SO SMALL CAN
AS IT MOVES EVER SO SMALL CAN LEAD TO LEAKS IN JOINTS AND
LEAD TO LEAKS IN JOINTS AND AREAS OF THOSE TANKS.
AREAS OF THOSE TANKS. >> LEAKING CHEMICALS CAN POLLUTE
>> LEAKING CHEMICALS CAN POLLUTE THE SOIL AND GROUND WATER IN A
THE SOIL AND GROUND WATER IN A BIG WAY.
BIG WAY. IT CAN EVEN GENERATE TOXIC
IT CAN EVEN GENERATE TOXIC VAPORS WHICH CAN MAKE PEOPLE
VAPORS WHICH CAN MAKE PEOPLE SICK.
SICK. >> PEOPLE WERE DRINKING THE
>> PEOPLE WERE DRINKING THE WATER AT LEVELS IN THE PART BURR
WATER AT LEVELS IN THE PART BURR BILLION RANGE LIKE 1 MOLECULE OF
BILLION RANGE LIKE 1 MOLECULE OF GASOLINE IN THE SIZE OF A
GASOLINE IN THE SIZE OF A SWIMMING POOL ALMOST THAT'S
SWIMMING POOL ALMOST THAT'S ENOUGH THAT COULD CAUSE HARM TO
ENOUGH THAT COULD CAUSE HARM TO SOMEONE IF THEY DRANK IT OVER A
SOMEONE IF THEY DRANK IT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
PERIOD OF TIME. >> FEDERAL LAWS CONGRESS ENACTED
>> FEDERAL LAWS CONGRESS ENACTED IN THE 1980s REQUIRED OWNERS
IN THE 1980s REQUIRED OWNERS TO START UPGRADING OR REPLACING
TO START UPGRADING OR REPLACING INADEQUATE UNDERGROUND TANKS.
INADEQUATE UNDERGROUND TANKS. IN THE 1990s THE ENVIRONMENTAL
IN THE 1990s THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY INTRODUCED
PROTECTION AGENCY INTRODUCED MORE RULES REQUIRING OWNERS TO
MORE RULES REQUIRING OWNERS TO CLEAN UP ANY DOCUMENTED SPILLS.
CLEAN UP ANY DOCUMENTED SPILLS. SKOALER SAYS THE -- SCHROER SAYS
SKOALER SAYS THE -- SCHROER SAYS HE IS HAS IS THE CLOSURE OF
HE IS HAS IS THE CLOSURE OF 40,000 TANKS AND CLEANED UP
40,000 TANKS AND CLEANED UP THREE QUARTERS OF TANK SITES.
THREE QUARTERS OF TANK SITES. THAT LEAVES THOUSANDS THAT
THAT LEAVES THOUSANDS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CLEANED UP.
HAVEN'T BEEN CLEANED UP. >> MOST DON'T REPRESENT A RISK
>> MOST DON'T REPRESENT A RISK TO ANYONE BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS
TO ANYONE BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHICH ONES DO.
KNOW WHICH ONES DO. >> THAT'S WHERE PERRY MULLIS
>> THAT'S WHERE PERRY MULLIS COMES IN.
COMES IN. >> 35.
>> 35. OKAY.
OKAY. >> HE'S IN BIG TRUCK WITH THE
>> HE'S IN BIG TRUCK WITH THE STATE.
STATE. HE BEGAN HIS CAREER NEARLY 60
HE BEGAN HIS CAREER NEARLY 60 YEARS AGO BUYING GAS FOR RESALE
YEARS AGO BUYING GAS FOR RESALE FROM THE SINCLAIR OIL
FROM THE SINCLAIR OIL CORPORATION.
CORPORATION. AND AS OF LAST YEAR, HE OWNED
AND AS OF LAST YEAR, HE OWNED SIX PROPERTIES WITH UNDERGROUND
SIX PROPERTIES WITH UNDERGROUND TANKS IDEM SAYS ARE OUT OF
TANKS IDEM SAYS ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
COMPLIANCE. SOME DON'T MEET CONSTRUCTION
SOME DON'T MEET CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS AND OTHERS THE STATE
STANDARDS AND OTHERS THE STATE SAYS VR IMPROPERLY MAINTAINED.
SAYS VR IMPROPERLY MAINTAINED. IDEM DOCUMENTED AN ABOVE GROUND
IDEM DOCUMENTED AN ABOVE GROUND LEAK IN 2008.
LEAK IN 2008. THE NEXT YEAR AN AGENCY REPORT
THE NEXT YEAR AN AGENCY REPORT SHOWED SOIL AT THE STATION
SHOWED SOIL AT THE STATION CONTAINED PETROLEUM CHEMICALS
CONTAINED PETROLEUM CHEMICALS ABOVE THE LEVELS IT CONSIDERS
ABOVE THE LEVELS IT CONSIDERS SAFE.
SAFE. >> THE CONTAMINATION AT A
>> THE CONTAMINATION AT A SERVICE STATION IS NOT
SERVICE STATION IS NOT NECESSARILY AND PROBABLY NOT
NECESSARILY AND PROBABLY NOT FROM THE TANKS AND THE LINES BUT
FROM THE TANKS AND THE LINES BUT RATHER PEOPLE PULLING IN,
RATHER PEOPLE PULLING IN, FILLING UP A TANK, OVERFILLING
FILLING UP A TANK, OVERFILLING IT, A NOZZLE -- DOESN'T KICK
IT, A NOZZLE -- DOESN'T KICK OFF.
OFF. THAT GASOLINE GOES OUT ON THE
THAT GASOLINE GOES OUT ON THE CONCRETE.
CONCRETE. >> BUT AN IDEM REPORT FROM 2011
>> BUT AN IDEM REPORT FROM 2011 SAYS INVESTIGATION AND CLEANUP
SAYS INVESTIGATION AND CLEANUP IS, QUOTE, IMPERATIVE BECAUSE OF
IS, QUOTE, IMPERATIVE BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE THE GAS STATION IS TO
HOW CLOSE THE GAS STATION IS TO ONE OF MORGAN TOWNS'S FOUR
ONE OF MORGAN TOWNS'S FOUR MUNICIPAL WATER WELLS.
MUNICIPAL WATER WELLS. >> MAINTAINING AN INDEPENDENT
>> MAINTAINING AN INDEPENDENT SOURCE OF WATER ALLOWS OUR WATER
SOURCE OF WATER ALLOWS OUR WATER BILLS REASONABLE FOR RESIDENTS.
BILLS REASONABLE FOR RESIDENTS. IF WE HAVE TO BUY IT FROM BROWN
IF WE HAVE TO BUY IT FROM BROWN COUNTY OR PRINCESS LAKE OR ONE
COUNTY OR PRINCESS LAKE OR ONE OF THE SUPPLIERS AROUND, THEN
OF THE SUPPLIERS AROUND, THEN THAT INCREASES -- IT COULD
THAT INCREASES -- IT COULD DOUBLE OUR WATER BILLS FOR
DOUBLE OUR WATER BILLS FOR PEOPLE AND WE JUST CAN'T DO
PEOPLE AND WE JUST CAN'T DO THAT.
THAT. >> WE HAVE TO KEEP THEM
>> WE HAVE TO KEEP THEM AFFORDABLE.
AFFORDABLE. >> CLEAN YOUNG UP CONTAMINATED
>> CLEAN YOUNG UP CONTAMINATED SITES CAN TAKE YEARS AND COST
SITES CAN TAKE YEARS AND COST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
DOLLARS. A FUND MAINTAINED BY THE STATE
A FUND MAINTAINED BY THE STATE IS SUPPOSED TO INSULATE TANK
IS SUPPOSED TO INSULATE TANK OWNERS FROM EXTREME COSTS.
OWNERS FROM EXTREME COSTS. EACH OWNER PAYS $90 PER YEAR PER
EACH OWNER PAYS $90 PER YEAR PER TANK TO THE STATE AND RECEIVES
TANK TO THE STATE AND RECEIVES INSURANCE IN EXCHANGE.
INSURANCE IN EXCHANGE. BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET A
BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET A DEDUCTIBLE, WHICH CAN RUN FROM
DEDUCTIBLE, WHICH CAN RUN FROM 20,000 TO $30,000.
20,000 TO $30,000. >> ISN'T IT AMAZING?
>> ISN'T IT AMAZING? THE BIG BOYS ARE DESTROYING THE
THE BIG BOYS ARE DESTROYING THE LITTLE PEOPLE AND -- AND THE
LITTLE PEOPLE AND -- AND THE STATE OF INDIANA GOVERNMENT IS
STATE OF INDIANA GOVERNMENT IS HELPING THEM BY ALL THIS
HELPING THEM BY ALL THIS NONSENSICAL REGULATION.
NONSENSICAL REGULATION. THE BIG PEOPLE CAN PAY THAT.
THE BIG PEOPLE CAN PAY THAT. THE LITTLE PEOPLE CAN'T.
THE LITTLE PEOPLE CAN'T. >> MULLIS AND IDEM ARE IN COURT
>> MULLIS AND IDEM ARE IN COURT TRYING TO SORT PROBLEMS OUT,
TRYING TO SORT PROBLEMS OUT, INCLUDING WHETHER MULLIS WILL
INCLUDING WHETHER MULLIS WILL PAY A NEARLY $200,000 FINE IN
PAY A NEARLY $200,000 FINE IN ADDITION TO THE COST OF THE
ADDITION TO THE COST OF THE INVESTIGATION AND CLEANUP.
INVESTIGATION AND CLEANUP. >> AS WE HEARD, THOSE TANK
>> AS WE HEARD, THOSE TANK CLEANUPS CAN BE COSTLY, BUT IF
CLEANUPS CAN BE COSTLY, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT CLEANED UP,
THEY'RE NOT CLEANED UP, SOMETIMES THE TOXIC MATERIALS
SOMETIMES THE TOXIC MATERIALS CAN GET INTO THE WATER SUPPLY.
CAN GET INTO THE WATER SUPPLY. IT'S INTERESTING IN THAT
IT'S INTERESTING IN THAT MORGANTOWN CASE BECAUSE IDEM
MORGANTOWN CASE BECAUSE IDEM CAN'T SPEND THE DEPARTMENT'S
CAN'T SPEND THE DEPARTMENT'S MONEY TO CLEAN IT UP UNTIL IT
MONEY TO CLEAN IT UP UNTIL IT REACHES A WATER SUPPLY AN THEN
REACHES A WATER SUPPLY AN THEN STARTS WHICH CAUSES THE DAMAGE.
STARTS WHICH CAUSES THE DAMAGE. TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORE, RUDY
TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORE, RUDY FIELDS, THE PRESIDENT OF FIELDS
FIELDS, THE PRESIDENT OF FIELDS ENVIRONMENTAL, JOINS US.
ENVIRONMENTAL, JOINS US. HIS COMPANY REMOVES THESE TANKS.
HIS COMPANY REMOVES THESE TANKS. HOW OFTEN DO YOU GO TO A SITE
HOW OFTEN DO YOU GO TO A SITE AND FIND THE TANKS ARE LEAKING
AND FIND THE TANKS ARE LEAKING INTO THE GROUND?
INTO THE GROUND? >> AT LEAST 50% OF THE TIME I'D
>> AT LEAST 50% OF THE TIME I'D SAY.
SAY. OFTENTIMES IT'S NOT THE TANKS
OFTENTIMES IT'S NOT THE TANKS BUT THE ASSOCIATED PIPING AND
BUT THE ASSOCIATED PIPING AND DISPENSERS AND INFRASTRUCTURE
DISPENSERS AND INFRASTRUCTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THE TANKS.
ASSOCIATED WITH THE TANKS. BUT SOMETIMES THE TANKS HAVE
BUT SOMETIMES THE TANKS HAVE CORRODED OUT AND STARTED
CORRODED OUT AND STARTED LEAKING.
LEAKING. >> WHY DOES IT GET TO THAT POI
>> WHY DOES IT GET TO THAT POI POINT?
POINT? >> CHIEFLY, I THINK -- I GET
>> CHIEFLY, I THINK -- I GET CALLED IN A LOT OF JOBS WHERE
CALLED IN A LOT OF JOBS WHERE THE TANKS ARE OUT OF SERVICE,
THE TANKS ARE OUT OF SERVICE, AND I THINK THAT THAT HAPPENS A
AND I THINK THAT THAT HAPPENS A LOT WHEN THE FINANCES OF AN
LOT WHEN THE FINANCES OF AN ORGANIZATION GO DOWN.
ORGANIZATION GO DOWN. THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO CLOSE THE
THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO CLOSE THE TANKS.
TANKS. THE TANKS SIT -- THE FACILITY
THE TANKS SIT -- THE FACILITY SITS IDLE, AND THEN THERE'S
SITS IDLE, AND THEN THERE'S TIMES FOR THE TANKS TO CORRODE.
TIMES FOR THE TANKS TO CORRODE. ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
ANY NUMBER OF THINGS. POOR CONSTRUCTION.
POOR CONSTRUCTION. POOR INSTALLATION.
POOR INSTALLATION. MANY THINGS CAN CONTRIBUTE TO
MANY THINGS CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE LEAKING, BUT THAT'S CHIEFLY
THE LEAKING, BUT THAT'S CHIEFLY THE -- THE ONES I FIND PROBLEM
THE -- THE ONES I FIND PROBLEM MAT IRARE THE ONES OUT OF
MAT IRARE THE ONES OUT OF SERVICE.
SERVICE. >> AT TIMES I GUESS THERE ISN'T
>> AT TIMES I GUESS THERE ISN'T THAT RUSH TO GET THESE CLEANED
THAT RUSH TO GET THESE CLEANED OR FIXED WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
OR FIXED WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THESE CONTAMINANTS GOING SPOOT
THESE CONTAMINANTS GOING SPOOT GROUND.
GROUND. WHERE IS THAT RUSH?
WHERE IS THAT RUSH? >> ECONOMICS.
>> ECONOMICS. IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A
IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A SITUATION WHERE YOUR PROPERTY IS
SITUATION WHERE YOUR PROPERTY IS GOING TO HAVE A CERTAIN VALUE.
GOING TO HAVE A CERTAIN VALUE. YOU'VE GOT A CORNER LOT IS WORTH
YOU'VE GOT A CORNER LOT IS WORTH $100,000 AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT
$100,000 AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT $20,000 TO CLOSE IT AND THE
$20,000 TO CLOSE IT AND THE POSSIBILITY OF $150,000 WORTH OF
POSSIBILITY OF $150,000 WORTH OF PROBLEMS THAT YOU MIGHT FIND.
PROBLEMS THAT YOU MIGHT FIND. SO IT'S A VERY SCARY PROPOSITION
SO IT'S A VERY SCARY PROPOSITION FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERTAKE.
FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERTAKE. AND THERE'S THE STIGMA OF HAVING
AND THERE'S THE STIGMA OF HAVING A BAD PROPERTY IF CONTAMINATION
A BAD PROPERTY IF CONTAMINATION IS KNOWN AND A LOT OF PEOPLE
IS KNOWN AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL JUST WALK AWAY.
WILL JUST WALK AWAY. >> WHAT ARE SOME OF THE WORST
>> WHAT ARE SOME OF THE WORST CASE SCENARIOS YOU'VE SEEN?
CASE SCENARIOS YOU'VE SEEN? >> OH, I SPENT ABOUT $350,000 OF
>> OH, I SPENT ABOUT $350,000 OF SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY IN MONTHS
SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY IN MONTHS EA, AND THE TANKS WERE ALREADY
EA, AND THE TANKS WERE ALREADY GONE AND SOME OF THE DIRT HAD
GONE AND SOME OF THE DIRT HAD ALREADY BEEN TAKEN OUT BUT IT'S
ALREADY BEEN TAKEN OUT BUT IT'S DIGGING AND HAULING DIRT.
DIGGING AND HAULING DIRT. >> IS THERE ANY NEW TECHNOLOGY
>> IS THERE ANY NEW TECHNOLOGY COMING UP THAT WILL HELP
COMING UP THAT WILL HELP REMEDIATE THIS IN THE FUTURE?
REMEDIATE THIS IN THE FUTURE? >> TECHNOLOGY -- THERE'S ALWAYS
>> TECHNOLOGY -- THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY COMING UP WITH
SOMEBODY COMING UP WITH SOMETHING BUT IT'S VARIATIONS ON
SOMETHING BUT IT'S VARIATIONS ON THEMES.
THEMES. THE BIOREMEDIATION WHERE YOU
THE BIOREMEDIATION WHERE YOU INCREASE THE BIOLOGICAL ACTIVITY
INCREASE THE BIOLOGICAL ACTIVITY IN THE GROUND, YOU HAVE BACTERIA
IN THE GROUND, YOU HAVE BACTERIA DOWN THERE EATING AND YOU FEED
DOWN THERE EATING AND YOU FEED THEM AND THEY GET BUSY.
THEM AND THEY GET BUSY. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR OFFERING
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR OFFERING YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS VERY
YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS VERY INTERESTING.
INTERESTING. WE NOW TURN TO OUR STATEIMPACT
WE NOW TURN TO OUR STATEIMPACT EDUCATION REPORT.
EDUCATION REPORT. KYLE STOKES WITH NEWS THAT
KYLE STOKES WITH NEWS THAT INDIANA SCHOOL VOUCHER PROGRAM
INDIANA SCHOOL VOUCHER PROGRAM COULD BE POISED FOR A RECORD
COULD BE POISED FOR A RECORD JUMP IN ENROLLMENT.
JUMP IN ENROLLMENT. >> ENROLLMENT IN THE PROGRAM
>> ENROLLMENT IN THE PROGRAM COULD DOUBLE OVER LAST YEAR FROM
COULD DOUBLE OVER LAST YEAR FROM 3900 ITS FIRST YEAR TO 9100 IN
3900 ITS FIRST YEAR TO 9100 IN ITS SECOND YEAR TO 20,000 COOL
ITS SECOND YEAR TO 20,000 COOL VOUCHER APPLICATION -- SCHOOL
VOUCHER APPLICATION -- SCHOOL VOUCHER APPLICATIONS, PUBLIC
VOUCHER APPLICATIONS, PUBLIC DOLLARS TO HELP SOME STUDENTS
DOLLARS TO HELP SOME STUDENTS COVER THE COST OF PRIVATE SCHOOL
COVER THE COST OF PRIVATE SCHOOL TUITION.
TUITION. MORE LIKELY THAN NOT SCHOOL
MORE LIKELY THAN NOT SCHOOL CHOICE ADVOCATES SAY YOUR FAMILY
CHOICE ADVOCATES SAY YOUR FAMILY QUALIFIES.
QUALIFIES. THE PROGRAM IS ONE OF THE
THE PROGRAM IS ONE OF THE COUNTRY'S MOST INCLUSIVE AND HAS
COUNTRY'S MOST INCLUSIVE AND HAS BECOME INDIANA'S CALLING CARD
BECOME INDIANA'S CALLING CARD WITH NATIONAL ADVOCATES OF
WITH NATIONAL ADVOCATES OF EDUCATION OVERHAUL.
EDUCATION OVERHAUL. THE QUESTION WE'RE GOING TO HEAR
THE QUESTION WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF IS THAT WE'LL HEAR
A LOT OF IS THAT WE'LL HEAR UNTIL WE GET MORE DATA ON THE
UNTIL WE GET MORE DATA ON THE PROGRAM IN OCTOBER HOW MANY OF
PROGRAM IN OCTOBER HOW MANY OF THE STUDENTS APPLYING FOR THE
THE STUDENTS APPLYING FOR THE PROGRAM THIS YEAR WERE ALREADY
PROGRAM THIS YEAR WERE ALREADY ATTENDING PRIVATE SCHOOLS LAST
ATTENDING PRIVATE SCHOOLS LAST YEAR BUT CLAIMED VOUCHERS THIS
YEAR BUT CLAIMED VOUCHERS THIS YEAR UNDER THE EXPANDED
YEAR UNDER THE EXPANDED ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS STATE
ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS STATE LAWMAKERS PUT INTO PLACE LAST
LAWMAKERS PUT INTO PLACE LAST SESSION.
SESSION. ONE FINAL THING WE WANT TO SHOW
ONE FINAL THING WE WANT TO SHOW YOU, A MAP WE HAVE ON OUR BLOG
YOU, A MAP WE HAVE ON OUR BLOG TODAY, IT SHOWS ONLY 30 OF
TODAY, IT SHOWS ONLY 30 OF INDIANA'S NEARLY 200 SCHOOL
INDIANA'S NEARLY 200 SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE HAVE
DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE HAVE TO COMPETE WITH CHARTER SCHOOLS
TO COMPETE WITH CHARTER SCHOOLS FOR ENROLLMENT.
FOR ENROLLMENT. THERE IT IS RIGHT HERE.
THERE IT IS RIGHT HERE. WE PUT IT UP AND YOUNG YOU CAN
WE PUT IT UP AND YOUNG YOU CAN FIND IT ON
FIND IT ON STATEIMPACTINDIANA.ORG.
STATEIMPACTINDIANA.ORG. YOU CAN SEE WIDE SWATHES OF BLUE
YOU CAN SEE WIDE SWATHES OF BLUE AND A COUPLE CONCENTRATIONS OF
AND A COUPLE CONCENTRATIONS OF CHARTER SCHOOLS MOSTLY IN GARY
CHARTER SCHOOLS MOSTLY IN GARY AND INDIANAPOLIS.
AND INDIANAPOLIS. IT SHOWS YOU SCHOOL CHOICE LOOKS
IT SHOWS YOU SCHOOL CHOICE LOOKS A LOT MORE NUANCED THAN
A LOT MORE NUANCED THAN SOMETIMES IT SOUNDS LIKE ON
SOMETIMES IT SOUNDS LIKE ON SHOWS LIKE OURS AND OTHER PEOPLE
SHOWS LIKE OURS AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO COVER EDUCATION THROUGHOUT
WHO COVER EDUCATION THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
THE STATE. SO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT MAP ON
SO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT MAP ON OUR WEB SITE,
OUR WEB SITE, STATEIMPACTINDIANA.ORG.
STATEIMPACTINDIANA.ORG. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KYLE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KYLE. NOW WE TAKE A LOOK BACK TO WHAT
NOW WE TAKE A LOOK BACK TO WHAT WAS MAKING THE NEWS IN OUR
WAS MAKING THE NEWS IN OUR "HISTORY THROUGH HEADLINES"
"HISTORY THROUGH HEADLINES" SEGMENT.
SEGMENT. THE NUMBER ONE SINGLE WAS "GO
THE NUMBER ONE SINGLE WAS "GO AWAY LITTLE GIRL" BY DONNY
AWAY LITTLE GIRL" BY DONNY OSMOND, NIXON WAS PRESIDENT, GAS
OSMOND, NIXON WAS PRESIDENT, GAS WAS 36 CENTS PER GALLON, AND THE
WAS 36 CENTS PER GALLON, AND THE BIG NEWS FROM A SEPTEMBER 1971
BIG NEWS FROM A SEPTEMBER 1971 ISSUE OF THE "HERALD-TIMES" WAS
ISSUE OF THE "HERALD-TIMES" WAS ABOUT AN UNPRECEDENTED HIGHWAY
ABOUT AN UNPRECEDENTED HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. AND, NO, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT
AND, NO, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT I-69.
>> THE HEADLINE READS "MILLION POURED INTO AREA ROAD 37
POURED INTO AREA ROAD 37 PROJECTS."
PROJECTS." AT THE TIME THE ONLY WAY TO GET
AT THE TIME THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO BLOOMINGTON FROM THE NORTH
TO BLOOMINGTON FROM THE NORTH WAS FROM A WINDING TWO-LANE
WAS FROM A WINDING TWO-LANE ROAD.
ROAD. THE REPORT DETAILED PAVING THE
THE REPORT DETAILED PAVING THE EAST SIDE BYPASS CREATING A WEST
EAST SIDE BYPASS CREATING A WEST SIDE NOAS BYPASS AND WIDING
SIDE NOAS BYPASS AND WIDING INDIANA 37.
INDIANA 37. THE PROJECT WOULD IMPROVE WHAT
THE PROJECT WOULD IMPROVE WHAT WAS THEN CALLED "KILLER ROADS,"
WAS THEN CALLED "KILLER ROADS," SMALL CRUMBLING ROADWAYS THAT
SMALL CRUMBLING ROADWAYS THAT FRUSTRATED COMMUTERS WITH
FRUSTRATED COMMUTERS WITH TRAFFIC AND INCONVENIENCE.
TRAFFIC AND INCONVENIENCE. >> IT WAS SCARY.
>> IT WAS SCARY. IT REALLY WAS.
IT REALLY WAS. IT WAS VERY WINDY AND HEAVILY
IT WAS VERY WINDY AND HEAVILY TRAVELED.
TRAVELED. NO -- VERY FEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR
NO -- VERY FEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR PASSING.
PASSING. AND PEOPLE WERE IN A HURRY.
AND PEOPLE WERE IN A HURRY. >> THE PLAN WAS UNPRECEDENTED.
>> THE PLAN WAS UNPRECEDENTED. THE PROJECT WOULD COST THE STATE
THE PROJECT WOULD COST THE STATE CLOSE TO $20 MILLION AND TAKE
CLOSE TO $20 MILLION AND TAKE MORE THAN A YEAR TO COMPLETE.
MORE THAN A YEAR TO COMPLETE. TWO YEARS LATER, THEN GOVERNOR
TWO YEARS LATER, THEN GOVERNOR OTIS BOWEN CUT THE RIBBON TO THE
OTIS BOWEN CUT THE RIBBON TO THE FOUR-LANE HIGHWAY SAYING
FOUR-LANE HIGHWAY SAYING "SOUTHERN INDIANA WON'T BE
"SOUTHERN INDIANA WON'T BE IGNORED IN INDIANA'S PLANS FOR
IGNORED IN INDIANA'S PLANS FOR PROGRESS."
PROGRESS." STATEWIDE BRIDGE, ROAD
STATEWIDE BRIDGE, ROAD MAINTENANCE AND TRAFFIC
MAINTENANCE AND TRAFFIC CONTRACTS AMOUNTED TO MORE THAN
CONTRACTS AMOUNTED TO MORE THAN $153 MILLION THAT YEAR.
$153 MILLION THAT YEAR. TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE,
TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, INDIANA DEPARTMENT OF
INDIANA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS SAY THE
TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS SAY THE 21-MILE SEGMENT OF THE NEW I-69
21-MILE SEGMENT OF THE NEW I-69 STRETCHES FROM BLOOMINGTON TO
STRETCHES FROM BLOOMINGTON TO MARSH CONTINUESVILLE WILL COST
MARSH CONTINUESVILLE WILL COST ABOUT $394 MILLION.
ABOUT $394 MILLION. IN OTHER WORDS THAT ONE STRETCH
IN OTHER WORDS THAT ONE STRETCH OF INTERSTATE IS MORE THAN
OF INTERSTATE IS MORE THAN DOUBLE THE COST OF THE ENTIRE
DOUBLE THE COST OF THE ENTIRE STATE ROAD PROJECT IN 1971.
STATE ROAD PROJECT IN 1971. INTERESTING, HUH?
INTERESTING, HUH? >> SURE.
>> SURE. >> ALSO MORE ANDING STORIES NEXT
>> ALSO MORE ANDING STORIES NEXT WEEK AS WELL.
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>> WE HAVE A LOT COMING UP, INCLUDING A STORY ABOUT THE FARM
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