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i'm joined by matthew filipovic most of the matthew filipovic showed the
boston-based progressive uh... program matthew great to talk to you know we had
scheduled this interview uh... couple weeks ago before we knew anything about
the boston marathon bombing and it just so happens that we have you here
you were also in brooklyn on nine eleven so i think there's a lot of interesting
things we could discuss here
first of all how did you first year of the bombing where were you that type of
thing just to get that kind of out of the way
sure all while the in the boston neighborhood of brighton uh... which is
kind of the the part of the western outline of boston boss that's actually
pretty small
city people bebop austin section of the big geographically boston's actually
really small
uh... and so actually the the marathon
actually starts way alex in the western suburbs unit twenty six miles out and
then goes all the way and finishes in downtown boston it passes
about like four blocks away from where me and my wife live band actually that
morning we went down and actually you watch the front-runners cold by its if
you get it's like four blocks away it's fun you know a bunch of people come out
and you know cheer along all around along the road the raopisces actually
we're not that far off from uh... we're on the other end up heartbreak hill the
famous held the people but the hardest part of the marathon the people are
going up this insane incline and so we went down all you know around the eleven
or so and watch the front-runners go past where we were and then you know the
front-runners pass and i went back to uh... went back to our apartment in omg
i'm working on of my chauffeured for today
and all the sudden i actually saw
literally like like
thirty police motorcycles zooming past my front window
sirens blaring and you know parted there was so many of them in it was so
sustained
i actually thought that something must have been wrong and so bobbing up right
then and there on twitter um... i saw it that the fact that there was there was
at least one explosion and then you know
like everyone else we started seeing all the different reports are coming in some
accurate some not accurate
of just the the the horror that happens
uh... down on on on the finish line of the boston marathon so now we're hearing
this morning from develop after confirm the police commissioner and davis and
others about
had this the slight contraction of the crime scene area from something like
sixteen blocks the twelve but that really all over boston is going to be
increase security expect to have
maybe somebody on the uh... and bt a police ask to look through your that all
these type of things
some curious
you were in brooklyn right after nine eleven
what what do you worry about in terms of this rush to be more secure is it is it
just a good thing we should do absolutely everything we can or were you
concerned about it
i'm very concerned about it on my actually was living in in brooklyn neck
and neck he said oh nine eleven
i could actually see
that went hours from the end of my block umar nine eleven actually had a
they uh... in the backyard of the apartment i was staying in actual still
have this was a piece of paper just a random
uh... piece of some some office building up on the twenty hours the singed
uh... you know financial forum that ended up landing in my backyard but
when i mostly remember after nine eleven
uh... you know obviously and some are the but we're feeling here in boston now
is is that fear that sort of justice that nervousness and fear
uh... but mostly i i that that
that thing that bothers me the most in when you talk about how the fact that
they're going to be you know doing searching more sergio bags here in
boston you know i remember it after nine eleven in new york
you know of seeing me
friggin military's soldiers with m_-sixteen machine guns on the street
corners i remember seeing
uh... f_-sixteen fighter jets literally zooming overhead and i like your living
in in a war zone
um i remembered you know obviously all remember that the stuff that came after
that which was the uh... the patriot act a being lied into a war
uh... and in a very much to worried about that happening here
uh... it's not that people shouldn't be you know stressed out and and and shaken
by what happened of course we're going to be shaken this is a very serious
thing to happen on nine eleven and one happens
now
we have to be very very big solent about
there are a lot of the fact that there are a lot of not so good people who are
very very good at exploiting that fear they'll exploit that fear for for power
adele exploit that fear for money if you have not only the military industrial
complex you have the security industrial complex which exploded uh... after nine
eleven i do very much for that that's going to happen here and if you look at
the fact that that they're talking about checking bags uh... you know i and
someone who thinks that that's
that doesn't is a really going to help anything and it's not like
you can check every what we're going to check every single solitary bag as
you're walking down the street you're gonna create checkpoints i'd personally
i'd say that's
you know if you want to create a checkpoint disconnect create another
bottle neck which would also be another target
four a terror attack i think the reality is
east these attacks don't happen very often and i a m
not there when they do happen they're not tragic in horrible and we need to
empathize with with all the people who are victims of this but the the odds you
know we're lucky you know most of the people listening with the united states
of america we are very very lucky that we live in a country that for the most
part we are are safe from terror attacks camera earlier and saying that
statistically speaking
these incidents are very rare and even when you look at the incident and i
don't mean to minimize it in any way but we have
three people at this point who have died and closing in on two hundred who have
been injured statistically speaking you are not going to encounter one of these
incidents knock on wood based on today's status quo
if you're just going about your business are going to america on but that being
said
i think the line between
security for the sake of of either actual security or even just making
people feel safe which i think also has value
and then crossing that into
exploiting the event to do things which at the top of the list would be using
nine eleven to go into a rack which had nothing to do with it the line between
those that there's a large gray area
and you don't always know right away when you hear of a policy which of those
ambrose at that time
absolutely after you know i didn't you know there's there obviously things that
people could do to be smarter
about
about uh... security but i i uh... you know i'm some of the things we cross
that line along long time ago and uh... you know after nine eleven
if you look it's the uh... the the warrantless spying that's going on if
you look at it this is it just things that happened under budge
you know if you look at uh... deal but i mean i think that all of this stuff can
be traceback too
just that idea of of exploiting fear if you look at
uh... obama's assassination of american citizens if you look at the drone war if
you look at it all that stuff all of that is actually
uh... you can draw direct lines to
birds into the fear that we all felt a nine eleven and then that and then
people again exploiting that beer
room to their own and bid again some of it might be so you know i'm not gonna
though some of the motives are are clearly bad some of the motives are just
pop at some of the motives
are
uh... you know some of the mode as they defied that they may be some people may
be thinking they're doing the right thing but i'd and someone who definitely
thinks we are we are waiting past outline and i'd want to literally what
could we have possibly done uh...
to stop what happened in boston we've been speaking with matthew filipovic
post of the matthew filipovic show with the best way for audience to find it
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are not the f dot net greater talk to you matthew and will definitely talk to
you again soon
actually thanks david