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Extra Time- May 23rd 2013
Subtitled by jergen07 a.k.a volar92 on Reddit.
Copyright VRT Belgium - 2013
I'm John Van Den Brom - Trainer RSCA Anderlecht
Did Anderlecht deserve the title? -Yes.
Would Zulte Waregem have deserved the title?
-No.
Are you satisfied with the quality of play this season?
-Yes.
Was this your hardest season as trainer? -Yes
Are you rather coach than player? -No.
Was Biglia your right hand on the pitch?
Yes.
Is Vainqueur the ideal successor for Biglia?
-No.
Are you afraid of an exodus in the coming months?
-No.
Would you like to have Thorgan Hazard at Anderlecht next season?
-Yes.
Should Jovanovic get a contract extension?
-Yes.
Is the Belgian national team stronger than the Dutch?
-No.
Is Romelu Lukaku ready for a starting position at Chelsea?
-Yes.
Good evening. Welcome to the last episode of Extra Time this season.
It took 40 Matchdays. But since yesterday we know the new champion of Belgium.
And that is Anderlecht.
We will talk about that title and the past season with four guests.
On one side of the table we have an ex player of Anderlecht. - Who scored 3 goals against Manchester United yesterday -
And the coach of Anderlecht.
Romelu Lukaku and John Van Den Brom.
On the opposite side another Dutchman. Who won the title with Anderlecht 3 times in a row. Right Jan?
Next to him, an independent analist.
Jan Boskamp and Filip Joos.
Welcome everyone. John Van Den Brom, congratulations with your title.
-Thank you. The 32nd for the club.
But first, the moments of the week. Everyone can choose one.
And Romelu, you may start.
And of course you have chosen for your match against Manchester United.
- No, wait..
You chose your own moment? -You forced me, let's be honest.
Usually, I never choose my own moment. I wanted to pick Anderlecht, Because it's my ex club but..
No, we picked a moment for you because you just arrived here.
-Because you are busy and hard to reach.
So yesterday, against Manchester United. Who were leading with 0-3 at one point.
That became 1-3 then 2-5, etc..
You only played the second half and you scored another 3 times.
It's the first time a sub manages to do that against Manchester United.
Lindegaard was goalkeeper at Manchester United, not De Gea .
why were you actually on the bench Romelu?
-No idea. I think last week against Norwich, When we lost 4-0.
That was a real offday for everyone. -For you as well?
Yes, for myself as well. And then you start to ask yourself questions.
During the week I trained hard, but I ended on the bench.
It's against Manchester United. I thought "It's my last game. I'm going give everything."
It worked out well and.. -3 goals!
Perhaps because you are a player on loan. Do you think that plays a role?
It's the last match and there is nothing at stake.
Well , it's..
Some games I don't expect to get benched. Some games I do.
You have to adapt to the situation.
But for a young player, to get the chance to play every game in the Premier League.
I believe the average age of a player like that is 22-23. I was 19.
I always want to play and score goals. But I am satisfied. -You scored 17 times, correct?
-17 Yes.
Did you ever expect this before this season? That's a lot.
Well, I started the season and thought to myself. "I will score as many goals as possible and do my best."
I want my team to win as many games as possible.
The first round was good. The second round was a setback, but..
Yes, I had a good season. I hope to do better next year.
-Shane Long, that is the second striker, he only scored 9 I believe?
And Torres only scored 8 at Chelsea.
Lampard is their top scorer. -You are the best scoring Chelsea striker.
-But you don't play at Chelsea.
I believe I should remain realistic. If you are a striker at Chelsea..
-It's different. It's harder, they play differently. Less open space.
Look at Demba Ba, he came from Newcastle. before the winter break, he scored 13 times.
He arrived at Chelsea and only scored twice.
That says a lot but.. I believe a good striker should adapt to every situation.
We'll see what happens. -You brought the ball home yesterday. Is that correct?
Yes.
But I had to flatten it. I wasn't allowed on the airplane with it.
-I saw some signatures on the ball. From who? All the players.
Players from Manchester United as well? -No, only my own team.
-Ruining an old man's party.
Ferguson. His last game.
At 2-5 he was laughing on the bench. Chewing gum ..
I think he had to do his hair dryer treatment one last time.
No, he was still laughing.
I went to talk with Adnan Januzaj, a Belgian player at Manchester United.
Ferguson came outside and congratulated me. He was laughing.
It's like all the stress is falling of his back.
26 years at the top of of 'the biggest club of the world'...
He had never played 5-5 in his entire life. That's the first time.
-A first time for everything
You are also the first sub to score 3 goals against Manchester United. -Romelu?
Didn't it feel strange when they signed Ba instead of getting you back?
No. I wanted to play. If I went back I would probably have been second choice again.
It was good for me to stay an entire year at West Brom. To focus on my development.
And I think that was a good choice. My second round was better than my first.
-How much do you actually weigh at the moment? 94kg.
And when you left Anderlecht? -No, 96 kg.
When I left Anderlecht , 101 kg. - 5 kg difference, It's noticeable.
First I lost 7 kg, then I regained 2 kg as muscles.
Losing 5 kilo is no problem. But gaining 2 that's worse..
-You should talk!
Unbelievable..
If he returns like that, John. Then he gets into trouble. Unbelievable.
-I weighed 101 kg, and 10 percent was fat.
And then I lost weight until I reached 93kg and 6 percent fat.
Now I weigh 96 kilo. And still 6 percent fat.
Yes but, I think you lost some of your muscles.
Remember, we talked about it last time.
I didn't lose muscles, I lost fat.
An entire year at Chelsea, I weighed 101 kg.
My chest was muscles with fat underneath. Now it are just muscles.
-Did you realise that at that point?
Yes, when you were at Chelsea. How is it possible that you play at a world club. And didn't notice that.
They told me that, but I barely played.
I played once every 2 months in a manner of speaking.
I always gained a little weight. And then they said: "Romelu, you have 3 days off."
I thought to myself, "I'm going back to Brussels." I live there, in Molenbeek.
On the other side of the road there is a pita bar. Tasty. -Luckily not a Mc Donald's.
Do you live in Molenbeek? -Yes, my parents live there.
Isn't that a sign they didn't always take you into account at Chelsea?
Otherwise you would have gotten remarks about it, when you came back like that, no?
When I returned this year, during preseason. With Kevin and Eden. Chelsea did body screenings.
I told them: "give me a 5 months program, I know i'm going to get loaned."
I wanted to be fit again.
I got a salad diet and other things. -Tasty!
Lot's of water daily, no soft drinks anymore. It has paid off.
But there was always someone from Chelsea in the stands? -At West Brom?
Yes, yes. -You were constantly being watched?
Yes, to improve my game. They told me "Your game with back to goal must get better."
But they do realise that depth play is my strongest point.
Jan, for losing weight, That's the place to be.
What is your moment of the week? -I will just cut a piece of my leg.
No, we don't want that to happen, Jan. Your moment of the week?
Mine is Gareth Bale -Gareth Bale of Tottenham.
I thought he was diving here. But I think he still gets pushed.
-It's not a penalty. He gets yellow.
Gareth Bale gets a yellow card.
I think the second ball is a fantastic ball from Jan Vertonghen.
And then how he.. He could have shot there, but he wanted to do one more action.
-Mignolet. What?
- Mignolet gets the ball.
And then, that is just pure class.
Look how he just curls the ball into the corner. That is world top.
But the most beautiful moment.. On the pitch, you see how much love Gareth Bale demonstrates
I don't know if you can also feel that? -Yes, yes.
Look, here. And now he gives a tongue.
That is love, football and love.
Had you already seen that goal, Romelu? Fantastic goal right?
Yes, wonderful. -Is he better than Messi at this moment?
Have you been drinking again or what's the problem?
Isn't he great?
Yes, he is fantastic. He was chosen player of the year..
He has won everything. -everything, He is phenomenal.
You have to understand, in the past, he played left back. -That's how it started.
Filip, your moment?
The Spanish cup final. Didn't demonstrate that much love, to be honest.
More hate, between Real and Atletico. With a surprising winner.
First goal is from Christiano Ronaldo. After a small nudge, well played.
Falcao, we always thought he only did things in the 16. Well...
This is just perfect. Diego Costa. Who scores.
That was the 1-1. At that moment with lots of luck.
But it got even closer. Courtois, at moments in a shooting range.
This is Miranda's only mistake. Let's Ronaldo get inside to easy. Benzema forgets to score.
Özil should certainly score.
A good keeper gets assistence from someone on the line.
This is smart play from Ronaldo. Everyone thought he would do a typical Ronaldo kick.
And then, the goal. After a corner. Bad positioning from Real.
Then, 2 times Courtois. -This is what I would call , with respect for him, a lucky safe.
And this.. this is world class.
This is really.. I mean.. That was unbelievable.
Everyone thought the ball went in goal.
Especially because he anticipates first and then he has to think.
He knows, I'm not getting that ball.
And then, making the switch to making himself large.
-You have known him for a long time right? Yes, since I was 13
Was he already impressive then? Because he was.. They call him "the thin one" in Spain I believe.
El flacco. The beansteak. But he is incredibly strong.
Yes, I believe that will only improve.
When we were younger, he was tall but very thin.
-So, if he moves next to a Pita bar..
Did you ever see him at Chelsea? Does he come there?
No, he signed 3 weeks before I came back. And he immediately left for Atletico.
And everybody loves him there.
They kept partying for an hour. On the pitch of Real. Until they turned off the lights.
They had enough.
They literally did that. -You saw Courtois and Falcao on the pitch.
Falcao jumped on him and hugged him. It was beautiful.
The coach is from Argentina. Simeone.
After the game he was on the phone with his children.
A beautiful moment.
Champions, champions
Did you see how the bean stalk Courtois stopped the ball?
And how much Gabi has ran.
The boys have shown real courage.
Juan Fran was very impressive.
They've shown courage!
I love you very much.
That was against his children. -That was beautiful.
We all know that feeling. After you play football, You call your father.
If you are trainer, you perhaps call your children. -Who did you call first yesterday?
My wife and kids were in the stadium.
But after we won the title, I called my mother. -Sweet.
-Thorgan Hazard, he is young , he is 19. A fantastic talent.
Jan, you were very charmed by his play.
Yes, I believe he is a fantastic player.
I have a weak for young guys. That's why I love it.
When you saw Malanda. And you saw Verboom playing.
Yesterday, it was a bit worthless.
Especially for Dennis, you know?
But if you then see Hazard. How much fun he has.
This is one of his best actions, he gets the ball back.
He then passes the ball. And then he keeps running.
I don't know who is letting him get away with it. Who is that? -Jovanovic
You see him passing, holding for a while and then he runs through.
Look at that opening.. -That was a fantastic ball.
He is a player that builds an attack. He doesn't lose the ball. He runs again...
-This is the goal right? Yes.
I used to sit here one day.
There was another good youngster then. But you all called me crazy.
No , no I didn't mean that sir behind you.
Don't you remember when i choose his brother? -Eden, but that is years ago.
Let me tell you something. There's a third brother. And he also knows how to play.
We used to say: "This is a player for Anderlecht."
Yes, I agree.
Is there some kind of interest? You don't do the transfers, but still..
But, are you pushing for him? -No, but we know what we want.
We are very interested in this player.
When I hear you like that. If Zulte Waregem had won yesterday. Wouldn't that have been a deserved champion as well?
I have had lots of respect for Zulte Waregem all year long. They have been on our heels all season.
And I think everyone saw yesterday, why they were a good opponent.
I am happy we won the title. But I believe.. -A worthy opponent.
Absolutely. -A team that plays good football.
-I'd like to ask Romelu something. Did you ever play with Verboom?
The left back. He played at Anderlecht right? -In the U17.
You were also tweeting with Eden Hazard. About his brother I believe.
Let's have a look.
Lukaku: "Title nr 32 is waiting for Anderlecht. COYM"
Followed by Eden's response, and then?
What's that at the bottom?
What is that "tchiiip" ?
That's a sound you make with your mouth. But I won't demonstrate that here.
You guys are constantly tweeting with each other? -Yes.
Who's the best of the two. Eden or Thorgan?
Eden, but Thorgan..
Give him a year or two and he won't be far below Eden. Maybe even better.
-He is more of a midfielder as well. Enormous volume.
Let's have a look at the end results in the Belgian league.
Anderlecht has become champion for the 32nd time. With 2 points more than Zulte Waregem.
Club Brugge is 3rd, Standard 4th, Genk 5th and Lokeren 6th.
The top scorer of the season is Carlos Bacca. He scored 25 goals.
And there are 3 players on the 2nd place. Mbokani, Mboyo and Ibou.
Carlos Bacca scored his last goal yesterday. Here, it's a beautiful goal.
Gudjohnson and Vazquez are both helping with the build up. And this is his 25th goal.
Do you think he was the best striker in Belgium? Bacca. -Yes.
This season he was, yes. If you score 25 goals, and don't even play all games. Then you deserve it.
-Romelu, you have been top scorer in Belgium as well. Where will you be scoring next season?
Hmm... -That is a sudden question.
It's not like you didn't expect it.. -No, of course not..
I just wait until we know who the new manager of Chelsea is. And then we'll see where I'll go.
Mourinho quit his job at Real, that is confirmed. -Oh really?
That is confirmed since today. -Look, if you don't find a team...
Always welcome...
Mbokani might be leaving Anderlecht for West Brom now -I heard Kiev as well.
But Mourinho hasn't called you yet? -No, no..
If he becomes trainer he will call me I guess? I think he has my number.
-Are you thinking about Chelsea again, after scoring 17 goals?
Or do you think, I better be careful. And look for a team inbetween.
Better than West Brom. Even if they did well..
-I am realistic. I just want to make sure I don't stop my development like I did last year.
-That has been a hard lessson? Yes, a hard lesson, a realistic one.
But then it was my turn to work hard and start from scratch again. Look at my negative points and improve my game.
But you are a better player now than when you left for Chelsea? -Yes.
What have you learned? -I just have to be smarter in my movements.
I improved a lot on my movement actions.
-How mad were you after the international game with Belgium against Slovakia? Where you made some mistakes.
I was somewhat angry, because I had to run on the flank all the time.
That way I couldn't be positioned in front of the goal.
But things like that that happen. I had a conversation with the trainer, and sorted things out.
We are lucky with a trainer who is very direct towards the players. -Absolutely.
Now I just try to focus towards the next international game.
I'm a guy who won't make any trouble wether I play or not.
I just try to become calm again and keep on working harder towards the next game.
-Last season at Chelsea,where things didn't go very well. Did you have a hard time?
Yes. It's normal. You leave from the biggest club in Belgium.
Where you play games in Europe, you score goals every week. You play for your family, your parents.
Then you arrive in London, a fantastic city , at a top club.
But then you sit in the stands all week. Just sitting there like a fan in a manner of speaking.
I don't want that feeling again.
Sure , you can train with these top players. But at some point you want to play.
And then , around April I just told the management I'm leaving next season.
And right now, you also want a starting position? And then you start the preseason with Chelsea?
-Yes, I do, and that's normal. They want to see how I improved. But haven't they noticed it now?
Yes, they've seen it, but.. They want to see it with their own eyes.
And I am not the only one.
Kevin is in the same position. Same about Thibaut, they haven't made a decision about them yet.
-Thorgan Hazard Yes, Thorgan who is improving as well.
We all come back. And then you stand there, with 40 players. And they have to start cutting.
I am curious. You left for Chelsea at a very young age.
Now, 2 years later. -Do you have regrets?
Do you think I should or should not have done it?
In fact, when I left Anderlecht.
That was the right moment for me to leave.
Because,
I had a good training at Anderlecht. But I didn't get to finish it.
Because, when I was 16, I was part of the main team.
So all those extra training sessions I needed, I never got them.
The level I have now, I would have never achieved that at Anderlecht.
-Because you had to perform too early? Exactly.
So in fact, you finished your training at Chelsea? -Yes.
I didn't play, so there was plenty of time to develop. -So that year at Chelsea was not in vain?
Yes, I agree, that was the good thing about it. I trained with top players and learned faster.
Do they train hard during the week, those top players? -Yes, yes.
-Because, somethimes the press makes it look otherwise. I was very suprised.
For example , Lampard, After training he swims 25 lenghts. -Swimming?
He was swimming against Benfica as well, But at least he won the game!
These players..
When you go to Chelsea, and you see how hard they work.
As a young guy you realise. It's not a coincidence they are there. It's because they work hard.
Then you start working hard as well.
-Did you expect the rise of Benteke, who made even more goals than you? Lower in the table, at Aston Villa.
He is playing great as well isn't he? You know each other well, correct?
That's true, and honestly, I expected that to happen.
-Are you both complementary as striker? Two strikers together in the national team.
We are very complementary. He is a pivot and I am swarming around.
Sometimes I bring the ball. Sometimes I run deep.
When we play with 2 strikers at West Brom, I play with Rosenberg.
He is the guy who gets the ball and I play in the depth.
-You and Benteke, Both to Tottenham!
Is Tottenham the team? -For Christian?
No, for you. For me? Ohh no.
Chelsea won't allow that, No, no, no.
-Not in London? No, no direct competition.
That's a certainty. -That might become a problem then?
Isn't that a problem? There isn't much choice left in the Premier League.
Why not the Bundesliga? Schalke04 or Dortmund, Who are Champions League finalists.
This is a conversation that has yet to come. Chelsea knows I have to play.
The world cup is coming. And I had a great season.
I believe I have to take that one extra step. To prepare myself.
-You already did a fantastic step Romelu. In the past. You had to feel an extra player behind you.
You looked where he was. That's gone now.
When I get the ball now, I know they will follow me. I play a lot faster.
On first control I can immidiately turn around and have 20 metres in front of me.
And now, America and Belgium vs Serbia. The season is not over yet.
I realise that. I train with my dad.
There's another rising talent at Chelsea, which might be a problem for you.
Jan, you know all young talents. His name is Turnbull.
That's him, the son of the second keeper of Chelsea.
Fantastic.
Especially the crowd. I love their reaction.
The little Turnbull. He doesn't really realise what is happening. The crowd is going crazy.
And then suddenly, look what he does.
That is going to be huge competition for you.
"Sign him up!, Sign him up!, Sign him up!"
What are your plans for the coming week. When does the season restart?
The 24th of June.
And now a well deserved holiday?
This week I stay here, to finish some stuff.
And then a well earned holiday.
Romelu, I have something for you. It's from a friend of yours called Vincent Bastin.
He made this for you, and I want to give it to you.
Belgium, and on the back Brazil. We count on you to be there in Brazil , Romelu.
You know him right? Of course I do, he is my webmaster.
It's beautiful. I will wear it. -Was that a deal?
No, no, this comes as a surprise.
That's a nice gift from your friend. We'll say goodbye here. This has been the last episode of the season.
Jan, we expect you back next season.
No, You already restart in July while I will be laying in the sun. -We'll be back by then.
Once again congratulations with your title John Van Den Brom. Thank you for coming to the studio Romelu.
We wish you a good team. One thing is sure, it won't be Beerschot, as they are gone.
Jan Boskamp, enjoy your rest.
And Filip Joos, thank you as well for all the good questions.
And thank you, all the viewers. For paying attention.
Next season we are back, in the end of July. The 29th to be exact.
See you then!