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in this day with me alec mcginniss the senior editor for the new republic
if i'm publication
is and be website e_r_
dot com
and out you guys have been doing some really really extraordinary reporting on
first all walk in the program give thanks thanks for joining us and and and
he had been there is an extraordinary reporting
on election
not voter fraud election fraud or bisbee attempt to read elections
in advance
this is this even goes beyond the old ido made its apocryphal stalin quote
does matter who votes matter was consulates right on in this case it
matters to is allowed to vote tackling
so tell us about well i i spent uh... while an ohio a few few weeks ago um...
all has obviously where the simple thing may come down to
and it's really been the
the battleground all year for our whole bunch of fights over
who's going to get to vote on
and in november
uh... we we've heard a lot about some of these other laws in other states have
been struck down by still require people to have photo i_d_ photo i_d_ at the
polls
law those laws were put on hold or struck down as having a lot of people
think this isn't that big of an issue this year actually in ohio where which
is the matter more than any other state
there's been allot of a fight sun surf smaller seemingly
more minor things that are that actually
could have a real impact such as
the fight over early voting early voting is a really big deal in ohio it's been
going on there for the last eight years
uh... six years it's way too
do you know to produce lines on election day in in that in cities where uh... off
in the past you have long lines and while democrats minority voters we're
not able to vocal in two thousand two thousand four famously standing in in
the rain exactly does before election for ten hour i sleep in congress
knocking the votes counted
yeah and so they can strip early voting to as as a remedy for that
but there's been this non-stop fight over just how much are we going to allow
and this year in ohio the republicans successfully have cut back on the early
voting hours i'm not as much as they would've liked but but quite
successfully and instead
usa basically a lot of weekends that you would appeal to vote
back in two thousand feet where the democrats which democrats used to great
advantage uh... were not available to them this year and uh... so that's but
that's been a record icfai tonight that i followed up there
this there are other fights or purple
we'll early voting locations i was in toledo gossiping of
orthopedist city in the state
um... where the republican elections officials want to put the always boating
location
indicate allan nine miles from sweet old that is one twentieth the size of toledo
and isn't early white
uh... which would've ops made it much tougher for mourn about the large
minority populations we don't get to that patient
to good people without cars
right for talking with alec mcgillis the senior editor of the new republic in r
dot com andy just
back to the early voting in general personal uh... uh... costed buses for
jess john-john chastity the surgery state he's the one who has been
fighting as the republican secretary of state
my recollection is that when finally the supreme court said no sorry we're not
gonna you know carrier appeal year you're going to have to have early
voting he said ok then we will do it with very limited hours
and we're gonna stagger those hours sunday two days so that if somebody
votes
in the morning one day and then goes back to their communities as saying dive
ten o'clock this morning i went out and voted are so their neck their neighbors
of their friends will say local are about ten o'clock our morning and
they're gonna get there in the polls will be closed his
uh... houses work
well exactly uh... they were discussed in court uh...
uh... did refuse to here's appeal this is actions is just for the final weekend
there was a question in this case the final weekend before the election
the republican's loss this appeal and but as result in just one headset is
quite narrow our sin more narrow than what they had
taking they're still on fridays and julia six on saturday i say that uh...
there's that those who are ours
uh... and again at the other weekends that
prior to the final weekend weekend of wrote this month in october
where you were allowed to vote
and tells me
you were not allowed to vote this this time estimate sure that all weekends
prior to the final weekend word were close to voting this time around
so people cannot vote last week as i cannot vote exactly
all next weekend
expense because the file itself the uh...
that the the question really is whether uh... the obama campaign will have
managed to get their people out on the weekdays
and set of since they were not able to rely on the weekends this year
teddy a a big challenge when i'm in the plutocrats the republicans
by and large i mean they're they're appealing to people who have
white-collar jobs they can take a day off
uh... more easily
or half a day uh... or beyond pairs or just simply rich people and i a m works
it's uh... i can be no billets or what your we look at here if you're a bus
driver right
you know and tragic a day off
this whole this whole actions really about turnout and if you look at the
polls
we see again and again is that plans ahead under registered voters
um... under likely voters for the pollsters teamspeak with people who
really will come to the polls it's tied so the whole question is whether obama
gets out those people who may or may not vote
and so any
anyway that you make voting more convenient
through early voting or what have you
makes more likely that you can get those people who were on
who are on the on the edge
answer any attempts to for republicans it's very important make it less
convenient to both because that's the democratic voters who are going to be as
result to be less likely to go
well and this is nothing new
i mean this is this is what literacy tests were all about in the nineteen th
late nineteen there early twentieth century
uh... you know that post reconstruction this is what the poll taxes were all
about this is this is what
their restrictive voting hours for that matter world a and is that he's become
more dramatic note because that because the demographics but we're seeing now
where
republicans have despite the efforts of car open others who wanted to build more
of a big tent on a party
have heavily fail to diversify themselves so this is or the last
election they could hope to win with a very very white chin base and and what
the white electric uh... right and there can be working at to to win this year
they're going to push their share of the way photo about sixty percent
and
can be really cool become much harder and years
down the line to try to do this this is the last year they have a shot of doing
this piece they winning without with very very little noriko
one way to do that is to make sure that the north on the other side it's not too
high
and end and in fact in two thousand i was reading today new york times and
correct me if my recollection of the numbers are wrong i was reading on on my
flight infantry carver this morning
that uh...
in two thousand thirteen percent
of the electorate
was binary
and right now it's going to be about twice that more moralist twenty five
percent yeah i think actually was it was sounded a little bit earlier it was
um... ninety-two with when clinton first one that was about their coffers and get
your thank you for that correction
but nonetheless what's right happened is that i sickly donation
we've seen this this very significant demographic shift
and and here's the thing
they succeed
in
in
uh... reading these elections in a way that they can put their running into
office
then he puts a couple more school ears on the supreme court
and bend boating laws
voting rights and law issues come before the supreme court
and the supreme court can tighten down the screws in ways that'll make it
even harder
or a minority stability well he hits it this is all about maintaining the plea
talkers it's mad at him sorry say that i don't think they do need any more votes
and that um... john roberts has made clear that next next year
then we looking at boating rights act which is held at the feds are allowed to
look at southern vote in dallas
and he seems intent on striking down that
that wall reports that money probably is the most to do it now
but it's you know kennedy justice kennedy is the swing vote is the fifth
vote he's the weak sister among the five that the five right wings
and he's what seventy four years old why i believe in and none of the best of
health and he's rather frail its american
intelligence berg is in real trouble but she's not the swing vote initsite she's
the reliable proceed boat
uh... miranti would clearly prepare replace her or and but its
there's that possibility i mean that that that uh...
well i guess we'll have to see others the shakes out uh... we have just a
little less than a minute left which are now at mcgill mcgillis the senior editor
at the new republic in r dot com is the website
what people do
i think
people just really need to
people care about this need to
we'll meet boat kills me to make sure they get everywhere
which is so basically it's the one thing of the year where you do have more power
than
to take a tax because if you have more numbers lists of simple
that's ok retire
alec mcgillis thank you alex