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Hey Nick! How are you doing, Robert?
So how long have you been here at Habilitat? Now I've been here about
almost nine months. So you were here last time
we came.. It was in July I believe it was.
How have you been since, you've been tapped on? Yeah
I got a crossfire tapping I believe it was
It was Deirdre and someone else that I don't remember. She's not here this time but
I did it I think about for like five hours almost
that was totally different... I walked out the room like really exhausted but
like .. the next day I felt different
like I wasn't thinking of stuff anymore. I got a real issue when I came in here. It was...
...a problem was the things I did. I couldn't grab spoons from... like to eat with
or when we make things like this boat turn and we were cutting up cans
and I had a issue with taking the can apart. Because I used to cans apart when we didn't have a spoon
to cook dope in...
and then it went from that
to.... oh damn
this guy yelling "oh my god the veins in his neck" to like I couldn't stop
focus on that, so I wouldn't see Jeff. And Jeff is this like.... I got some people that help you
that works if you open your mind to it. So...
I pretty much did it and I walked out of the room and to this day I can go grab spoons
and no problem like in
I think about stuff and I don't think about getting high anymore
That was my main thing everyday, it was like damn I miss getting high.
What am I gonna to do now and I have no problem talking about it now.
before I would talk about and think about doing it and I start (just) like....
tripping out but now it's just like nothing was ever there.
it's pretty crazy. It was crazy to tell the truth it was super trippy and
I didn't think it was going to work, but... it worked.
So it really helped to change your life pretty much, didn't it?
Yeah. So what we'll gonna do is we'll do some tests with you. Ok.
what I like to have you do is, close your eyes
and I like you go in your mind an see if you can find
the high feeling. And you've experienced that thousands of times and just check it
if it's still there
or if it's gone. 0 can't feel it, 10 really strong. How strong is it?
No there's no feeling
at all. Okay that's a zero then? Yes. All right, good then open your eyes now
Now I wish to pretend like... right here in front of you, you got a table
you got all your drugs, all your paraphernalia to do it. And in your mind or in your
hands just do it
like you gonna get your hit and say if there's any sensations, any reactions
any heart beating or anything, when you do it. Okay. First thing I do is I get the dope,
I grab my spoon, I break it up, I put in this spoon,
I'd get the syringe, I'd suck the water out of... if I had a water in a bottle
I'd use that water already out,
put it in this spoon and then I'd light it
and then... now it's done... I drop the cotton in it, I'd suck it up
and that was like the whole part. That was the trip like ...
I gotta stick myself and it wasn't the intention of getting high
the part that I feel is when I draw it back I draw it back and I see the blood
and that's when I get the feeling and then I push in and just feel like
all done and gone. To 0 no reaction, 10 strong?
No. There's nothing there. I thought I couldn't even do all that, I was tripping out.
I had a hard time moving, to do all the steps
Ah, that's good, very good. So it's a zero then? So we also have you drugs here.
we have ICE, we have some ***,
crack, *** as you see this, 0 no reaction, 10 really strong, what is your reaction?
the difference... it's nothing
like.. there is no high reaction...cause I kind of....
... I replaced it with something different.
And I can touch this stuff. Before, I couldn't touch any of this.
Like the first thing I do is I get this.. right here
now this is... yeah .... and all this
if could just put, I' just use just this. And this together but...
that's nothing anymore... That's a trip
it's crazy. Before I couldn't even do this.
Did it work? Yeah! So 0 = I feel nothing, 10...
... I feel something, how strong? No, I feel nothing about this whatsoever.
So what I want you to do...
look all this stuff. Now what I want you to do, in your mind I want you to put something right on
top of this
that is the most disgusting thing you could ever imagine,
just put the most disgusting thing on top of all these drugs
You got it? Yeah. Right, good. No desire, right?
No. That's good. Good job.
So obviously you signed.... did you sign up for a session?
No, I signed up
to ..... do this interview with you. Because like
I tell you the truth like ... what they did last time I didn't hold nothing back, I just gave up
everything I did in my life from doing this to the things I did wrong and
people I hurt and the stuff that could have got me in more trouble if anything happened.
I just was open about it. And whatever they did, they fixed it!
And I don't wanna mess that up. I don't wanna go back in there and change things.
Very good! I just want to keep it the way it is and when I have other issues
like if something bothers me I just... tap it out of myself. You know like...
but you know I mean there are certain other things were....
really, since that day nothing really bothers me. Since you guys left
I've had a couple mistakes here
were people just split like crazy but I just stuck it through and I didn't
change, because this is the place I need to be. Very good, so you have been mentally
tapping? Covertly tapping? Yes.
I have the first card, that you guys gave me in my locker. I see it every day that I open it.
if there's ever something wrong I just do it. If there's people around I'll do it in my head
and I'll think about while I'm tapping it, you know.
This, it's pretty cool though. I recommend this to anyone, to tell you the truth.
but you've got to be really open minded, you got to be honest about what you do in life.
I think that's the only way it works. It does work.
That's a good thing.... I'm proud of you. Good job!
Thank you very much!