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>>> PAUL NEWMAN TOLD ME THAT ANY
SUCCESSFUL PERSON IN ANY FIELD
WHO IN DISCUSSING THEIR CAREER
DOESN'T USE THE WORD IS A LIAR.
>> HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, YEAH.
>> SO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF
LUCKY?
>> VERY LUCKY, YEAH.
>> YOU HAVE TO HAVE TALENT TO
MEET THE LUCK, RIGHT?
>> SOMEBODY HANDS YOU THE BALL
AND YOU RUN, YOU KNOW.
IF YOU GET HIT, YOU GET HIT.
MAYBE YOU MAKE IT THROUGH.
YOU NEVER KNOW.
BUT, I MEAN, I -- I JUST KNOW
THAT SOMEBODY HANDED ME THE BALL
AT A CERTAIN POINT.
AND I WAS HUNGRY ENOUGH TO KEEP
RUNNING.
AND I'M STILL RUNNING.
SO --
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK MAKES YOU
GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO?
YOU HAVE TO THINK YOU'RE GOOD.
>> I'M OKAY.
>> YOU DON'T WATCH YOURSELF,
RIGHT?
>> I DON'T, NO.
I DON'T.
I DON'T LIKE TO WATCH MYSELF.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, I MAINTAIN A
HUNGER, BUT NOT AN AMBITION.
YOU KNOW, I -- I'M VERY HAPPY TO
EXPLORE ALL POSSIBILITIES OF A
CHARACTER AND REALLY, YOU KNOW,
DIVE INTO THE ROLE.
TO THE POINT WHERE DISNEY WANTED
TO -- WANTED TO FIRE ME.
>> THEY WANTED TO FIRE YOU FROM
"PIRATES"?
>> YEAH.
>> BECAUSE?
>> THEY COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT
I WAS DOING.
THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE
CHARACTER.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY CONTEMPLATING
SUBTITLING THE FILM, YOU KNOW.
>> YOU WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS
AS THE DAY THAT YOU ALMOST
CAUGHT CAPTAIN JACK.
♪♪
>> WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
YOU BURNED ALL THE FOOD, THE
RUM.
>> YES, THE RUM IS GONE.
>> WHY IS THE RUM GONE?
>> EVER TURNED DOWN SOMETHING
YOU REGRETTED?
>> NO.
>> NO?
>> DON'T REGRET ANY OF IT, NO.
NO.
EVERYTHING THAT I TURNED DOWN
WAS -- IT WAS -- WEIRDLY, IT WAS
MORE IMPORTANT WHAT I TURNED
DOWN THAN WHAT I ACCEPTED IN
TERMS OF FILMS.
>> FOR YOUR OWN HAPPINESS?
>> MM-HMM.
>> SO EVEN IF IT BECAME A HIT?
>> YEAH.
"PIRATES" WAS A COMPLETE
ACCIDENT, YOU KNOW.
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
>> PRIOR TO "PIRATES OF THE
CARIBBEAN," THE FIRST ONE IN
2003, THAT WAS -- I HAD BEEN
ESSENTIALLY KNOWN WITHIN THE
CONFINES OF HOLLYWOOD AS THE --
YOU KNOW, AS BOX OFFICE POISON,
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
BASICALLY HAD BUILT A CAREER ON
20 YEARS OF FAILURES.
>> DID IT SURPRISE YOU, ITS
SUCCESS?
>> HUGELY.
I HAD NO IDEA.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO DO MORE?
>> YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS.
>> DOES IT EVER BECOME MAYBE TOO
MUCH?
>> NOT YET, YOU KNOW.
NOT YET FOR ME.
I MEAN, MAYBE -- MAYBE TO THE
MASSES.
I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE.
I DON'T KNOW.
I STILL FEEL LIKE IN TERMS OF
CHARACTER, CAPTAIN JACK IS ONE
THAT I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE.
>> HE'S STILL EVOLVING?
>> YEAH.
BECAUSE HE'S -- BECAUSE HE'S
FUN, YOU KNOW.
IT'S HIS FUN.
IT'S A LICENSE TO BE TOTALLY AND
UTTERLY IRREVERENT AND GET AWAY
WITH IT.
>> HE'S GOING TO AGE, THEN?
>> I SUPPOSE HE'LL HAVE TO.
>> DISCUSS SOME OTHERS.
SOME INCREDIBLE ROLES YOU'VE
PLAYED.
EDWARD SCISSOR HANDS.
>> PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT
FILM THAT I'VE EVER DONE, JUST
IN TERMS OF THE -- THE
TRANSITION FOR ME, YOU KNOW,
FROM BASICALLY AT THE TIME, YOU
KNOW, BEING KNOWN AS HAVING COME
UP THE RANKS AS A TV ACTOR,
ESSENTIALLY, IN THE MINDS OF
HOLLYWOOD.
"SCISSORHANDS" WAS THE ONE THAT
PUT ME ON THE ROAD THAT I WANTED
TO BE ON.
SO FOR ME THAT ONE'S -- YEAH,
THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST
IMPORTANT OF ALL.
>> "MAD HATTER."
>> A GAS.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUST A GAS.
AGAIN, ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE
YOU GET A CALL FROM TIM.
HE SAYS WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT
THIS?
YOU JUST -- YOU JUST START TO
TRAVEL, YOU KNOW.
>> YOU JUST DID "DARK SHADOWS,"
RIGHT?
>> JUST FINISHED.
>> THAT WAS A SOAP OPERA ABOUT A
VAMPIRE.
>> YEP.
>> WHAT ATTRACTED YOU TO THAT?
>> I HAD WATCHED IT AS A KID,
YOU KNOW.
RELIGIOUSLY.
I REMEMBER SPRINTING HOME FROM
SCHOOL.
DIDN'T WANT TO MISS A MINUTE OF
IT.
IRONICALLY, TIM HAD GONE THROUGH
THE SAME EXPERIENCE.
RUNNING HOME FROM SCHOOL.
BACK WHEN WE WERE DOING SWEENEY,
WE WERE DOING "SWEENEY TODD" A
COUPLE YEARS AGO.
AND IT -- ONE DAY WE'RE SITTING
THERE TALKING.
I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD DO A
VAMPIRE MOVIE SOMETIME.
LET'S DO A VAMPIRE MOVIE.
IT WAS BEFORE ALL THE
"TWILIGHTS" AND ALL THAT STUFF.
YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
I WENT, OH, "DARK SHADOWS," MAN.
WE GOT ON THE "DARK SHADOWS"
TANGENT.
ONE THING LED TO ANOTHER.
>> WAS "WILLY WONKA" FUN?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH.
>> DO YOU HAVE TO ENJOY IT TO DO
IT?
>> I THINK YOU HAVE TO.
I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE FUN.
THE PROCESS ITSELF HAS GOT TO BE
FUN.
YOU HAVE TO ENJOY WHAT YOU'RE
DOING.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW, AS YOU KNOW
AS WELL AS I DO, IT'S A
COLLABORATIVE PROCESS, YOU KNOW.
IT'S NOT JUST LET'S PUT THE
ACTOR IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA.
THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE BEHIND THE
SCENES THAT MAKE IT ALL GO.
SO I WOULD -- I WOULD FIND IT
REALLY A DRAG IF THEY STICK ME
OUT IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA AND
THE GUYS BEHIND THE CAMERA
WEREN'T HAVING A GOOD TIME, TOO.
ALL I DO IS TRY TO MAKE THEM
LAUGH.
>>> STILL AHEAD, JOHNNY TALKS
ABOUT HIS FAMOUS CO-STARS AND
FRIENDS.
AL PACINO.
>> HE SAYS, I'M NUTNUTS.
BUT HE'S REALLY, LIKE,
CERTIFIABLY NUTS.
>> MARLEN BRANDO.
>> WE GOT ALONG LIKE A HOUSE ON
FIRE.
THERE'S A DANGEROUS ELEMENT.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT
FROM HIM.
>> AND HUNTER THOMPSON.
>> HE WAS THE VOICE OF TRUTH.
I THINK WITHOUT QUESTION THE
MOST IMPORTANT NONFICTION RIDER
OF THE 20th CENTURY.
>>> PLUS, GET A TOUR OF HIS
PRIVATE OFFICE.
WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE WHAT'S IN
THERE.
>>> FIRST, AFTER SUPPORTING THEM
FOR YEARS, JOHNNY OPENS UP ON
THE RELEASE OF THE WEST MEMPHIS
THREE.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANYBODY SAY TO
YOU, JOHNNY, YOU GO OUT ON A
LIMB ON A THING LIKE THIS?