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Narrator: Do not attempt the techniques you are about
to see without consulting a professional.
On this episode of the Dog Whisperer.
Suzanne Mapes: We're having a lot of problems
walking him on the leash.
Being pregnant, I had to stop walking him when
I was about five months,because he actually pulled me down
one day.
Rick Garrido: I got it, I got it, I got it.
Hey! The posture changed.
Now there was sound, there was growling, there was more
of a stance, it was, he started to pull,
the hair on the back of his neck was just standing up.
Kasey Brown: They turned on each other.
The thing is, Sooner doesn't stop.
So, even though he's 15 pounds, he is usually the one
who starts it, and he doesn't back down.
And their fights got worse and worse.
It's just this teeth-gnarling, mashing, hair-flying, um,
you know, blood.
Narrator: When good dogs go bad, there's one man
who's their best friend, Cesar Millan.
Cesar Millan: No dog is too much for me to handle.
I rehabilitate dogs.
I train people.
I am the Dog Whisperer.
Suzanne: Cas, are you tired?
Do you want to go to the beach?
Do you want to go for a ride?
Do you want to watch the Dog Whisperer?
Narrator: This clever lab mix has been a devoted
Dog Whisperer fan since husband and wife Rick Garrido
and Suzanne Mapes brought him home when
he was just three months old.
Suzanne: He's a great dog, he's great at home.
We've, we've been training him since he was five months old.
Rick: He was terrific, from day one, he's been very loving.
And, in fact, we struggled with the name.
Then one day, he's, Susan's laying on the grass
and he comes over, he starts laying on her
and starts to lick her face, he's such a lover.
So of course, Lover, Casanova, that's how it all played out.
Suzanne: Kiss me.
Sit.
Kiss me.
Thank you.
Both my husband and I are big exercisers,
so we wanna take him out a lot.
We take him to the beach, we take him to the dog parks,
and he listens and he's great.
Rick: When he is off the leash, he is a
completely different dog.
Suzanne: We're having a lot of problems walking
him on the leash.
Rick: It wasn't a big deal in the beginning, we just,
we did our corrections as per the trainer and so forth.
And then one day, I think it was shortly after
Suzanne got pregnant, I mean,we really started to see,
now there was sound, there was growling,
there was more of a stance, it was, he started to pull,
the hair on the back of his neck was just standing up.
Suzanne: Being pregnant, I had to stop walking him
when I was about five months, because he actually
pulled me down one day.
And, um, it scared me, and so then every time after
that I was walking him, and I would tense up and
see a dog and I started to feel it in my, in my belly.
Rick: I'm able to over power him, I know
it's not the right way to do it necessarily,
but sometimes I really have no other choice.
You start to feel guilty because you're over correcting,
and you have to man handle this dog,
and you feel like you're abusing him, basically.
Narrator: The couple's longtime dog trainer,
Theresa Botello, believes her clients have reached
an impasse in dealing with Casanova's behavior.
Theresa Botello: Casanova is, uh, gets completely,
uh, over stimulated and over reactive to other dogs.
It was a matter of a frustration level building with
Rick and Suzanne that I feel was keeping the problem going.
Suzanne: I feal like we've tried everything,
we've tried bringing treats, we've tried being relaxed,
we've tried letting him greet dogs.
We've tried everything that just, we kinda feel
like we're stuck.
Rick: I think the problem is more with me, in terms
of how I communicate with the dog, so I'm hoping
that Cesar will teach me how to better communicate with him.
Narrator: Rick believes he's part of the problem.
Both he and Suzanne want to get an outside
perspective on their dilemma before their baby
arrives in a few weeks.
Cesar: Who you are in the animal world is energy.
So when you're nervous, fearful tense, anxious,
depressed, tired.
Rick: Stressed out. Cesar: Frustrated, whatever.
See that, to animal, represents instability.
Right!
Rick: I work a very high-stress job.
And so, coming down off of that stress is, typically
takes a long time.
So if I'm walking him and I'm in that state,
then he immediately, he's amped up. And he's, so.
Cesar: So at that moment when you see,
that's the thing, he doesn't know you're coming
from a stressed out job and, you know,
how hard you work and all that.
He knows your energy is like unstable and very intense.
Because you have, you can have unstable energy and low,
you know, low intensity.
But when you come with high level of intensity,
you're affecting the whole entire neighborhood.
I mean you're driving like. Suzanne: You've seen him?
Cesar: No, but I can image how he describe it, you know,
his eye came out the way he comes from work.
Suzanne: Or even going to work in the morning.
Like, getting up and thinking, I have 20 minutes
before I go to work, I gotta walk the dog, and he's late.
Cesar: Oh my God! So you don't love your job?
Rick: No, no, I do, I love my job, it's just,
it's, my career, it's just intense.
intense career.. Cesar: What is it?
Rick: So it's a lot of demand.
I work in real estate, no I wish, no, that's not it.
Cesar: That's intense, the guys, what they doing in Iraq.
Rick: Well that's true, yeah, it's all perspective, isn't it?
And I think part of it is just my natural way of being,
which is just something I have to work on, I guess.
Cesar: Natural is good. Bad habits is what we learn.
Rick: Oh, good point, yeah.
Exactly.
Cesar: You should remind yourself, or you can use him
as a reminder. Just like a stop sign is stop!
That's the meaning of it.
So when human sees a dog, he have to learn,
train himself to go into a calm, assertive state,
regardless how he feels.
That is relationship, because relationship
is all about you giving first.
The following part, you have to trigger it.
You have to respect Mother Nature.
We pay for real estate, they pee on real estate.
Narrator: Since Casanova's issues seem to be triggered
by strange dogs, Cesar enlists the ever-faithful
Daddy to help him with this first exercise.
Cesar: When you are with Mother Nature, don't worry
about money, don'tworry about time. Those are all human stuff.
Can be very helpful to the human, and can be
very harmful to the human.
So right now, this way of thinking is harming the human.
Cause the human is not making time to relax.
Suzanne: Well, he walked in the door and he just called
us out on our,our stress level. Rick: Yeah, I was like, gosh.
Suzanne: We have the baby coming, we have a lot going on.
Rick: I've known you all of 30 seconds,
and you already called me a stress case.
But he was right on, he's right on.
Cesar: Based on that conversation, we just
gonna open this door, I want to see all right,
tha's fine, that's what I just want to see how.
Hey! hey! hey!
First of all if you're using the wrong energy,
that's 80% of what you not supposed to do.
And then 20% or 10% might be the way you manipulate physically.
All right, so the way you were trying to, accomplish
right now blocking him. Rick: Right.
Cesar: Right now you just want to block him, right.
Is you came from the back, so he went in front
and then you did this, right? Rick: Yeah.
Cesar: So that already sets, tells him, 'do it.'
All right?
And then you went into this.
All right?
So what he did is go around you.
Rick: Right.
Cesar: Now, the reason why he went around you all this time,
and he didn'tlisten to the pull, is because from
the beginning, you start tense, and then you went infront of him
with tension. Rick: Okay.
Cesar: You see it? Alright.
Look, I'm gonna touch, but I'm not gonna let him escalate.
Tsst!
Right? So the touch.
You want him to do psychological as well.
Otherwise, hey!
See the difference?
Two males, Latinos, one comes with this energy,
the other one comes with this energy.
Rick: We watch the show, so we know a lot of this stuff
that he talks about, but to actually put it to practice,
and see him work it, it's, it was nice
to see that too,and that helped me.
Cesar: See, that's excitement.
That's, see it, that's excitement, that's more
like I want to meet him. That's a whine of meeting.
Suzanne: So it's, there's a difference between that and
the growl,that's what you're. Cesar: Absolutely!
Suzanne: Cause we would be. Cesar: Tsst. Hey!
That one I didn't like, see he went into another.
So you have to allow, yeah, you gotta have
a conversation with Mother Nature, and the way you do it
is by staying calm.
See if you get tense, you don't sing, and you don't
enjoy the whole talking.
Tsst! Tsst! See how he backs away?
Every time he walks away and I move into his space,
I own his space.
This is about making human calm down.
Make it as a habit of practice five minutes
of great balance, you know, practice calm, assertive energy
Five minutes a day, which, you know, the truth is
that you become aware of being healthy the whole day.
That's good, nose is good.
When, when they investigating a dog with their nose,
more likely they want to meet him.
When they're doing it with the eyes or the ears,
they want to go after them.
So Daddy doesn't feel invited, that's why
he's turning around, right? So he knows his energy.
Once I bring him in, then he trusts me.
That even though he's unstable, nothing would happen.
See, gently.
You know, and we can bring dogs all day long,
this is not an aggressive case.
He can become aggressive, don't get me wrong.
But his nature is this.
This is the perfect state of mind to have around babies.
Now your job is to keep him this way everywhere.
Of course you give affection to that,
you know what I mean?
You wait for that one.
We, the professional have to focus on training the human
and challenging the human, because people,
people who are fearful, they don't want to face the problem.
Without facing the problem, you don't get rid of the problem.
Narrator: Coming up, Casanova unexpectedly
tests Cesar's reaction time.
Cesar: You're watching Dog Whisperer on NatGeo Wild
Please remain calm and open minded untill we come back
Narrator: Rick Garrido and his pregnant wife, Suzanne Mapes,
think their lab mix Casanova is the perfect dog,
except when he's on a leash.
Casanova's trainer, Theresa Botello, joins Cesar,
Rick, and Suzanne on a busy thorough fare
where they will tackle their dog's challenging
issues with other canines.
Cesar: So before we bring him outside, let's bring a dog,
so you, you control him from inside your car.
This is just like the house.
Sit down. Tsst!
See that alertness, it's okay for him to turn around
like this, but the way he turned around like that,
that is when you come and tsst! Snap him out of it.
Narrator: Trinity is a dog aggressive pit bull
that Cesar is rehabilitating.
A crew member walks her past Casanova so Cesar
can observe his reaction.
Cesar: What your dog is going to learn is,
do not respond to aggressive dogs. See that?
Tsst. Hey!
I am exposing him to a true case of aggression,
and I'm telling him, do not respond on her aggression.
Which, in this case, Trinity fed herself from his excitement.
Hey!
There we go.
Bring it back over here, Roj. Right there.
Tsst!
Tsst!
So you see they respond right away from, from being,
in, you know, in a different state.
The intention of Casanova is to be Casanova.
It's all about interaction, friendship;
he's a very elegant guy.
So he's really executing his name.
Your problem here is not aggression;
it's that he gets excited very quickly.
So your job is to, is to catch him at that moment
of excitement by exposing him to situations
and keeping him in that.
See, now we have calm, submissive state.
So then that calm, submissive state, you invite him out.
So regardless of what message that she's sending,
now it's easier forme to control because
I have him side by side.
When you restrict him from being his name,
and then you create frustration.
And the frustration makes the human angry,
frustrated or fearful. That makes him dominant.
Suzanne: He has to learn to completely ignore.
Cesar: So we have a case of, at first he gets excited.
Then he gets frustrated, then he becomes dominant.
So the existence of these three energies creates the aggression.
Suzanne: A lot of times the tension really
escalates when we'rewalking towards a dog.
Cesar: Yes, we're gonna do.
Suzanne: All right, that's what I was going to say.
Cesar: And this is first time dog,
so I don't even know this dog. Theresa: Right.
Cesar: Look at the reaction already.
So we're just gonna pass by, is that okay with you?
So, a situation like this where he's holding,
I'm gonna take the advantage to come here. Pass this way.
Tsst.
Tsst.
Hey!
There we go. Tsst.
A lot of sound, Right, so as you see, he's being very honest.
This is what I normally do. What you going to do about it?
How you are going to control, how you are going
to control this situation? One more, one more.
I know that this is not what most people would do for you,
but this will bea setting for controlling the environment,
you know, Especially.
Can you stay right there, sir?
There he is, right there.
That's a big deal.
Curious, we want that, no correction that.
Rick: At one point I caught myself going,
I can't believe he has him this calm. It's amazing.
Cesar: Okay, space is very important.
Let's walk together.
Yeah, I'm right here with you.
Thanks. You're welcome.
It's good for her, she's about to have a baby,
and I want her to have her last days in a very calm,
assertive way.
Let me have it, he's taking over.
Suzanne: Yup. Cesar: That's right.
Now again, it's excitement, what it's taking,
he's getting excited about scent and
that's another dog over there so we face that.
You don't have to be right there, you can
face him from far away, short, but not tense. Yeah.
Very good, we want this, we want this.
He have to learn to ignore and submit to that.
Now, that's not aggression, that's not dominance,
he's just saying something, right?
Now if you get tense or if you pull back,
that can become aggression.
Suzanne: I mean, one thing I keep saying,
it'll be nice to have mybody back, just physically
so that I can feel stronger.
And then, with that, more confidence probably.
Cesar: Put yourself right here. Suzanne: Okay.
Cesar: Right here.
Narrator: Now, it's Rick's turn to handle Casanova
as another strange dog approaches the group.
Cesar: It's perfect, keep coming.
That's too much leash.
Rick: One of the things he mentioned was I was giving
the dog too much leash.
So the dog was really disconnected from me,
and by that time it's already too late, you know,
the behavior has gone, there's no way to bring him back.
So he taught me a better way to handle that.
Cesar: Perfect, perfect, your dog is great.
Tsst. Right there.
There we go. Tsst!
This is excitement.
Rick: I should shorten up the leash.
Cesar: Yeah, no tension. I'm perfect.
Narrator: Suddenly, Casanova's leash breaks,
presenting Cesar with a new challenge.
Rick: How'd that happen? Cesar: I don't know. Put it on.
This never fails. Rick: That's never happened.
That's interesting.
Cesar: Hold on.
Rick: Boy, you're quick, my friend.
Cesar: That's right, buddy.
How do you think I jumped the border?
Alright.
So this is easier here, easier to control with this.
You know, there you go, bam!
So, we had a bad moment, right?
That was perfect, the more that happens,
the more that gives you access to create this.
And the funny part is when he was off the leash,
he behaved the best, which that's what you described.
Rick: I didn't know what the difference was between
that excitement and that show, that display
of excitement and aggression.
And Cesar was able to point that out,
so, tremendous insight.
It made me feel really good, actually, it was like,
okay, well we're not dealing with a dog that's
out of control, this is just his natural state, at this state.
Cesar: Now, if the strategy is not the one
you would like,just see the energy.
If something you learn about today is energy, perfect.
It doesn't matter what strategy you follow.
Hey!
Ride the horse, this is excitement.
Hey!
Tsst!
There we go.
So the more he tries, and then I stop him.
Stop right here.
Then I stop him, then I create the state of mind I want,
then he sees, with that guy I behave this way.
They're not gonna, they're not gonna go into what I did first.
They're gonna go how, how did that relationship end up.
Everything I do is to show you what I can do in the now.
Again, it's not how I do it that's the best way,
it's possible.
I want you to see possibility; I want you to see it.
And then I want you to go and practice it.
This is not about the dog.
Especially this case.
This is more about really focusing on training
the human to see those subtle movements, you know.
And the more you expose yourself; this doesn't
get no better than this.
For them to do it on their own in front of what was,
of what was, of what was first a target.
Rick: Yeah. Cesar: That's really good.
Rick: Right.
Cesar: So when should I check on you?
Rick: After the baby comes, I guess.
Suzanne: Yeah, when we're, when I'm back and
walking, I guess, so.
Cesar: I want, I want to see your improvements,
you know, your frustrated energy disappearing,
and calm, and bringing calm energy.
Rick: Arroz con pollo!
Narrator: Cesar promises to return after the baby
is born to work with the new, expanded family unit.
Coming up, Casanova confronts the newest member of the pack.
And later, Cesar intervenes in a potentially
deadly canine feud.
Narrator: After an intense day of working
with Suzanne Mapes, Rick Garrido, and their
excited-dominant Labrador, Casanova, Cesar gives
the couple a homework assignment to practice
better managing their stress.
That's a tall order, with their first baby
due in a few short weeks.
Suzanne: We had Diego six weeks ago, so, life changed a lot.
But, you know, kind of have had to take a back
stage with the training,or working with Casanova.
We're ready to start again, now so.
Rick: Come on in!
Cesar: Ah, oh my God!
Rick: Hi, Cesar! It was worth it. This is Diego.
Cesar: Oh, Diego, oh my God. How you doing?
Can I just hold right here?
Rick: Absolutely, make yourself at home.
Cesar: I got it, I got it.
That's the part that I, very important, you know,
how he comes or reaches.
The smell is normal, but more distance, a bigger bubble.
You know, so this way, the scent alone lets him know
that he have to maintain distance. So that makes
him very powerful.
Because when mothers introduce puppies
to the pack, she ask for a lot of space, you know, rules,
boundaries, limitations, right away. Let me pass him.
Okay? So we can focus. Rick: Got him. I'm good.
He's definitely become more relaxed as
of late, as you can tell.
Cesar: Big difference, big difference.
Rick: He's still a mess on the walk.
Cesar: Oh, really? Rick: Yeah.
Suzanne: Because of the life change, I mean,
we haven't had as much time.
I, I, I'm just starting to get back out.
Cause I've gone out by myself a few times
with the stroller and him,and like right now it's a lot.
Cesar: Out of shape, you see what I mean?
So you lose, you lose that touch.
So you go back to basics always, you know.
What about you?
Rick: Still, it's still a struggle for me.
I, I've definitely gotten better, it's,
I'm more aware of my being tense and, and not showing that
tenseness to him, being relaxed.
And so I, that's the one thing I've been concentrating on.
Cesar: You look more relaxed.
Rick: I've seen some, you know.
Cesar: You feel more relaxed more than anything, dad can
be blind he'll feel different.
Rick: I do, but you know what, you don't really have
much of a choice with this one, it's like you have,
you said that the last time too.
It's, you have to, you gotta bring it down.
And it's, it's cool, he does this.
Cesar: For the benefit of the pack.
Suzanne: As for the house in the morning, he wants
to go play, he'll, you know, I'll be sitting
feeding the baby, he'll bring me toys.
Um, but, you know, I.
Cesar: When you're feeding the baby?
Suzanne: Mm hmm. Cesar: And what do you do?
Suzanne: Um, when I'm feeding the baby,
I might talk tohim, but I don't.
Cesar: But feeding is a really huge ritual.
Suzanne: Yeah.
Cesar: Nobody comes and plays when mother is feeding.
Suzanne: Right, so you're right, I'm probably doing
the wrong thing,because I think.
Cesar: Send the wrong, send the wrong message.
Suzanne: I think I have, I think I have tossed him the ball back.
Cesar: So feeding means play.
Which, in the natural habitat, feeding doesn't mean play.
OK!... It means, give me a lot of space.
Suzanne: Right. Yeah. Cesar: You see what I mean?
Suzanne: Okay.
Cesar: If you send the wrong signals.
Suzanne: Okay.
Cesar: Then they'll go, feeding time means play.
Suzanne: Right. Cesar: I get excited.
Suzanne: Right.
Cesar: So if somebody else comes in, in the picture
and he's excited while you're breast feeding,
he's going to be dominant.
Suzanne: Okay.
Cesar: Now that's my decision for him to walk away.
That's not his decision for him to walk away.
Narrator: In the backyard, Cesar demonstrates more ways
for the couple to shareleadership with Casanova,
even during play time.
Cesar: If he likes to be chased, that means he is
controlling the game.
So right now I didn't follow the whole me chasing thing,
because that will empower him to own the toy.
Rick: He'll never be short stop for the New York Yankees.
Cesar: Tsst! See that's better, that's retrieving.
See, once, once the ball gets near me, you see
how he's giving distance.
Very good.
There you go. Suzanne: Good catch.
Cesar: So, that also gives you leverage as a pack leader.
Suzanne: I've known this, but not to the full extent
I learned today, which is,it's every aspect with our life
with Casanova and the baby.
It's just being in that pack leader mentality all the time,
which means work all the time, you have to think about it
all the time.
Narrator: Dog trainer, Theresa Botello,
has worked with Casanova since he was a puppy.
Cesar wants to observe her techniques for correcting
Casanova when he encounters a strange dog.
Theresa: Hey!
Quit!
Cesar: Alright, pass it to me? Theresa: Thanks.
Cesar: Yeah.
You gotta keep this up there right now.
Right here.
Up, up, blocks the, blocks the brain.
Send him back to relaxation.
Theresa: Hold up. Pull up.
Cesar: Hold it, see what I mean?
You're touching but you're, you see what you're.
Theresa: Exactly, I get to that place where
I can't get him back.
Cesar: Right there.
Theresa: Okay.
Cesar: Very good.
Now when you start pulling or you correct him,
you're pulling back.
That is already saying, move forward.
See, my pull is to the side, to the side, it creates this.
Right?
Theresa: Having Cesar help me through a particular
issue and having me besuccessful at it,
I'm sure makes them feel more secure that I can then
help them with that particular problem.
Cesar: Don't forget to breathe.
Narrator: Next, Cesar advises Suzanne to resume
her daily ritual of walking with Casanova
but suggests she begin with short distances in order
to build her confidence.
Cesar: Right there.
Very good, very good.
Good job, you're doing a good job.
Rick: We want a calm, submissive dog.
It's something that he helped us really affirm.
And if we want a calm, submissive dog,
then we have to live calm and assertive lives in that respect
Suzanne: Cesar was awesome today.
It's just, when he came the first time,
I have to say, it was very over whelming.
I think there was so much information
it took a while to process.
I've been thinking about it, and reading more of his book,
and I'm in a different state too, I mean,
I have a baby now, but I'm, I'm definitely,
I feel like I got a lot out of today. We have her, so.
Cesar: Excellent.
Theresa: Thank you very much. Thank you.
Cesar: Thank you.
Thank you for helping them and staying consistent with this.
So keep us posted, okay? Suzanne: We will.
Cesar: Good job, buddy.
Rick: Thank you for your time, Cesar.
Cesar: Yes. Suzanne: Thank you, bye.
Narrator: Next, a tiny Jack Russell wreaks havoc
on the streetsof San Francisco.
Kasey Brown: I'm reading Cesar's book right now.
In the book it says there's three dogs
he hasn't been able to help.
And my family and I joked around, it's probably
three Jack Russells that he hasn't been able to help.
Because I don't feel like Sooner can be helped.
Narrator: Sooner comes from a championship bloodline.
But this Jack Russell terrier's street fighting
instincts have won the 15-pound welter weight nothing
but trouble.
Kasey: He was our first pet in our whole lives.
We didn't really know what we were doing, and I think
we kind of messed it up from the start.
Sooner!
Narrator: Kasey Brown teaches ballet.
Josh Brown coaches football.
Nothing in their professional experience
prepared them for their terrier's terrifying tenacity
Kasey: Sooner!
I mean he ate every baseboard, every cupboard,
every shoe, anything that could be eaten, he would eat.
We call him "the goat."
Josh Brown: He's kind of stand-offish to new people
and new things, and, and I'm the same way, really.
There's a time to, to turn it up and a time to relax,
and he does both.
Kasey: Hey. Sooner, let go. Hey!
Narrator: Thinking a companion dog might calm Sooner,
the Browns selected the mellowest dog in a litter
of Queensland heelers, naming their puppy Trace.
Kasey: We brought him in, and we thought, okay,
we'll just kinda put them, and we'll see how they respond.
And Sooner was like.
"What, who is this," you know, "what have you done?"
Trace would not respond because he was a puppy,
so he'd usually cower and kind of go over into the corner
and just lay down.
So next thing you know, Trace is like 35 pounds.
Josh: Trace started getting older and
defending himself and little skirmishes,
or stand-offs, if you will, you know, and, and that's
kind of when the problems started happening.
Kasey: They turned on each other, and I've never seen
a dog fight before in my life.
The thing is, Sooner doesn't stop.
So, even though he's 15 pounds, he's usually the one who
starts it,and he doesn't back down. It's just
this teeth-gnarling, mashing, hair-flying, you know, blood.
Now there's been two surgeries where Sooner's almost died.
Josh: I was out working on the road.
Both of them, they didn't happen when I was there,
so I didn't see the severity of them till I saw the pictures
or saw Sooner in person.
Kasey: And their fights got worse and worse.
And I called Josh and I said, you know what,
that's it, this is not safe for Sooner,
this is not safe for Trace.
And Josh said, absolutely not, absolutely not.
I mean, I think Josh would cut off his right arm before
he would give Sooner away.
Josh: They do the normal dog things and they still
need corrections and they need constant reminders
and all that stuff, just like normal dogs do, you know.
But, when I'm around, for the most part,
I can control both of them at the same time.
Narrator: Kasey, fearful about the consequences,
no longer walks with two dogs together.
Kasey: Josh is just not as scared, where I am scared,
where, if, you know, if I even hear a sudden noise
in the house, I'm like, is there a fight?
Josh: Do I think it's Kasey's fault? I don't.
But, you know, I think that she can control
the situation better.
Kasey: We constantly now fight over, should we keep Sooner,
should we give Sooner away? Is Sooner the problem?
Am I the problem? Is Trace the problem?
And it's not healthy.
Narrator: Whenever Cesar arrives for a case,
he knows there are always at least two sides to every story.
Kasey: Well Sooner and Trace, Jack Russell, Queensland,
I know they'rereally difficult breeds.
They fight, they fight really bad.
Sooner's almost died several times now, you know,
which is not only unhealthy for him, but very expensive.
And now I'm just worried he's a liability.
He doesn't like any dogs, he doesn't like cats,
he doesn't like kids.
Most of the time he doesn't like Trace.
Josh: A lot of tension in the air.
Kasey: Yeah. And when they do fight, it's horrific and
really hard to stop. I can't stop it.
Josh is better able to stop it.
Cesar: How bad do you feel, from zero to 10?
Kasey: Ten.
Cesar: So who, how are we gonna help you?
Kasey: I, I don't know.
I just, I feel like I know I'm supposed to be like,
you know, the pack leaderand, but, I know that Sooner
doesn't see me that way.
Cesar: Intellectually you know it, but actions speak
louder than the words,so that's what he knows.
Have you ever tried to coach her in that aspect?
Josh: I have a little bit, I think.
Cesar: What?
Kasey: Well he's a football coach so he,
you know, he's used to being like, "you know you do that,
and then you do that."
And I'm like, "I'm doing what you're saying,
it's not working, okay? So, stop."
Cesar: Are you coaching her like a football player,
or are you coaching her like a female?
Kasey: He's not coaching me like a female.
Cesar: Oh, okay. Kasey: No, he's like orders.
"No, I told you," You know, that kind of thing.
I'm going, "I'm trying.
I'm not doing."
Josh: I've tried to help though.
Kasey: Yeah, he's tried to help.
Josh: I've tried to help with the way she walks him,
and leaving the leash, making him heel
and just persistence with him.
If you gotta say "heel" 100 times,
you gotta say it 100 times.
Cesar: You gotta win the game. Josh: Yeah.
Cesar: No hesitations, right?
You don't wanna, you don't want a weak member in the pack.
Josh: No.
Cesar: But see, when you coach a female, it's different.
What I learned about female psychology is emotions first.
It's not what you're saying, it's how you say it.
Right? Cause you can say, "Yes, honey, I love you."
Right? Kasey: Yeah.
Cesar: But, they know, that you didn't really mean it.
It's a different psychology.
I know it's, I mean, it shocked me, I'm tellin' you.
You know, I'm from a macho country. You know.
You don't give affection.
Kasey: Yeah, I think I do that with the dogs too.
Like I think they need affection.
And I'll say "Good, good," and then, I say,
"Okay, now we'll go for a walk."
And that kind of thing.
And, I guess that doesn't work.
Cesar: He was obsessing on Kasey right away, for no reason.
It was just, there was no food around, it was just
the way he manipulates her.
That was just an instinctual reaction
for me to snap him out of it.
Cause he is not going to practice intensity around me.
A growl not necessarily mean he's going to bite somebody.
But at the same time, growl is a warning.
So what we're saying right now is, don't warn,
because that normally takes you to a red zone
or an aggressive state, right?
So what is this right here, what is he. This is?
Kasey: Um, he wants to come up here, so he'll sit here
and pretty soonhe'll start crying if I don't let him
up here.
Cesar: So he knows how to manipulate you, Right?
Kasey: You notice he only stares at me,
'cause he knows it won't work with Josh.
Cesar: Yeah, he practices more leadership than you do.
One is a football coach.
And then Kasey is a dance instructor.
You know, it's unusual that we are in front of two
people who teach, you know,and that to me is a pack leader
You know, once you are a teacher you are a pack leader.
I wanted to work with Kasey because Kasey was
exhibiting more of the fear, of the panic.
It's cold in San Francisco!
It was very important for me to help
her brain to see it from a different point of view.
Don't visualize chaos, because you already
created a lot, you know,and so let's just create
something else, something different, something that
you are not familiar creating.
And watch what happens, you know.
I hold him. Kasey: Okay.
Cesar: I want to see your reaction with another dog.
Narrator: To test Sooner's level of aggression;
Cesar brings out a serious challenge.
Trinity, a pit bull he's been rehabilitating
for the same reason.
But first, Cesar shows the dance instructor
some fancy footwork of his own.
Cesar: Look at that.
I surprise him. Kasey: Uh huh.
So that's what the squealing was.
Cesar: Yes.
The squealing was not.
Kasey: Not pain.
Cesar: Physical. Kasey: Right.
Cesar: What?
Kasey: It's like somebody slapped him?
Cesar: Like if I come and do this, "Ow!
What happened?"
Kasey: That's why he's.
Cesar: That's why he sit down, he's in a different state.
Kasey: You know, he gets this crazy eyed look
usually and he's like, Don't make a move or I'm gonna get you
you know, and he was just like Hmm mmm hmm.
So like right around below the ribs there?
Cesar: Yeah, right in between, that's what
the boxers go for this area.
If you are planning to stay together for
the rest of your life, the key is tomotivate and inspire
So by having Josh observing this, it,
it gives a sense of community,it gives a sense of pack.
All right, let's go for a walk. You can follow.
Tsst.
That means you don't have a bad case.
When I am capable to snap a dog in seconds.
Kasey: And they go.
Cesar: And they snap out of it so fast,
you don't have a bad case.
Now you can make him a very bad case.
So when I deliver the touch, I deliver once.
You got it, boom! Kasey: Right.
And he didn't try to go back again.
Cesar: No.
Kasey: And I yank, yank, yank, yank he doesn't respond at all.
Cesar: No.
If you're going to yank, yank to the side.
Kasey: Okay.
Cesar: To the side creates an out of balance experience.
Right. When you pull back, it only makes them more powerful.
Kasey: Yeah. Cesar said he's really, he's not a red zone case
because we were able to make huge changes
within just a few corrections.
That makes me feel, you know, not like I'm endangering
society by taking my dog outdoors or something.
Cesar: You know, this, for a lot of people is one of
the most powerful tools in the planet, the prong collar.
Kasey: Right, he, I can snap it all day, he doesn't.
Cesar: All day, that's right.
It's, it's a callus already developed around the muscle.
The brain is already conditioned that
it's going to take the pain.
You want to send him into a sensitive state, that's why
I waited for the right moment; I set him up, pop!
Snap him out of it.
So right now he's in a very sensitive state.
He, he feels this, when before you pull and,
there's no way in the world.
Okay, let's go around the block.
Narrator: Sooner learns to wait, until later, coming up.
Cesar: You're watching NatGeo Wild, sit and stay
remain calm and submisive untill we come back
Narrator: Josh and Kasey Brown's Jack Russell, Sooner,
and their Queensland Heeler, Trace, have dogfights so bloody
their lives are in jeopardy.
After a lesson from Cesar in cultivating
calm-assertive energy, Kasey is finally able to walk
both dogs together without incident, even after adding
Trinity, a dog-aggressive pit bull, to the pack.
Cesar: There we go.
Kasey: I mean, we walked by a pit bull, and it's not,
you know, a pit bull that is free of problems himself.
And Sooner was completely calm.
And it was me walking him, not Cesar, so that's
pretty amazing, you know,that makes me feel good.
Josh: By the end, Sooner wasn't even looking at the other dogs.
Cesar: So in the beginning we have the same,
we have two dogs that wanted to go after each other.
One was a Jack Russell and the other was a pit.
Kasey: Right.
Cesar: It's not a fair fight. Kasey: No.
Cesar: Right? So they both have to snap out of it.
Kasey: Okay.
This is amazing; they've never walked like this.
Cesar: Nicely Don't pull back, just pull to the side.
There we go.
This is a different feeling, isn't it?
Kasey: Yeah.
Cesar: Right now there's no fear in your mind,
there's no tension in your mind, no anxiety in your mind.
Kasey: No, and usually my eyes are darting around
looking for the next dog that might approach and,
you know, is there a person coming with a kid or something?
Cesar: See, it's a lot of similarity in the way you
behave and the way he behaves.
You are doing it with fear, and he's doing it
with assertiveness. Kasey: Right.
Narrator: When it starts to rain, Cesar and the Browns
move inside to work on another problem area,
the feeding ritual.
Cesar: This is already a problem.
Kasey: Him sitting like this?
Cesar: Oh, so close. Kasey: Oh.
Cesar: In a natural setup, follower are never so
close to food when the pack leader is near.
This behavior will lead him into protecting
and claiming the food. Kasey: Okay.
Cesar: So it should be.
Tsst!
Tsst!
Tsst!
Tsst!
Tsst!
Tsst!
Distance.
Everybody, not just him.
Go!
So this gives you access to claim and own,
so then he gives me that.
Kasey: Okay.
Cesar: Right, so that's a more patient state of mind.
Kasey: Right.
Cesar: Than the one you had here.
Kasey: Yeah.
Cesar: He was more like, "Put it down," without the verbal.
Some dogs will bounce, some will bark.
Kasey: He usually does that.
Cesar: That behavior is to accelerate you, so you can.
Kasey: Hurry up, feed me. Cesar: Hurry up, feed me.
This is, No, you stay over there and
I feed you on my terms.
Kasey: Okay.
And then, you know, Sooner, I'm sure,
from being with me so long, thought, I'll give it another
shot! If he's anything like she is, you know, I'll be back
to doing what I want, and again, down.
Amazing that he just, All right, I guess I'm going
to lay here and be calm, submissive before I get my food.
Cesar: Now remember, growling, or making all those,
hey move, making all those sounds
Doesn't mean they're going to bite.
See, he was growling, but he was doing this,
so that he's unsure.
See he's telling me, with body language,
"I am unsure, and I am just vocalizing it."
Kasey: Uh huh. Yeah. Cesar: See what I mean?
So that's why I didn't back away.
If he woulda, I would have tried a different approach.
Kasey: Okay. Cesar: See it?
But I follow through. Kasey: Yes.
Cesar: And send him. That's good. So now, let's
prepare the food. Kasey: Okay.
Cesar: So, right away, see it, right away.
Look who's behaving better.
This is impatient already, he's going back
and forth, back and forth. So he will get fed last.
So, right now we got Jack Russell, look at that.
That's beauty.
So, right now he's the good role model.
They can switch.
And, so you're job is to utilize, who is at
the best state of mind?
I would, There we go. Look at that.
Now we have two dogs in the same state of mind.
One, we did it by addressing, the other one,
we did it by ignoring. So how's it feel?
Kasey: It feels, it feels a lot nicer.
Usually I feel like, I rush, I rush. Because
I'm like, Okay, everybody calm down and we'll all eat.
Just quiet. Ya know?
They never be quiet until they're actually eating.
And then I have to stand there and guard so that he
doesn't come and eat is food.
Cesar: That you gotta stay. But not tense.
Kasey: Right.
Cesar: Most of the fights that have happened,
you created by thinking about them. Yeah.
Cesar: Then once they're in that state then you
put the food on the floor. Let's see.
Kasey: Okay, break. Break, Sooner.
Cesar: Once I own the feeding ritual, that's it.
The heeler and the Jack Russell knew that none of them own it.
I asked Kasey, okay, Kasey, we have two dogs.
How would you like to challenge yourself?
Pick the challenge.
Narrator: Although Kasey made the decision to walk
Sooner around some of the neighborhood dogs,
her fear got the better of her.
Cesar: She was very honest and say, I'm already seeing
myself being defeated, not being able to control the situation.
Relax. I told her, Look, don't deny fear, don't deny
insecurity, don't deny panic.
Just acknowledge, and claim what you want.
So give yourself distance.
There, touch, touch. Nice!
She's a dancer, so she should know how to move the legs.
Your dog would automatically get,
Don't worry about it.
I have everything under control.
There we go, that's good. And so he did it.
Mr. Jack Russell did it.
Kasey: I didn't feel him do anything that time.
Cesar: No, you didn't, he didn't do anything,
there was no need for correctionwhen they don't do
Just move to the side and claim your space.
That's the message you're sending to the dog.
What he's saying is, "I want no problem."
Can you stay right there?
Just stay right here, now you go.
Kasey: I have to admit, I'm not consistent.
So I need to work with Josh on being consistent.
And I need to, not sort of put my issues and my,
like, Oh, we're gonna goon a walk and you're going
to get in a fight, I just know it, you know, cause
the dog doesn't think that way, and they're not sitting
around going, Hmm...
today I'm going to fight when I go on a walk, you know?
Josh: It was just good to see her actually finally do it.
Cesar: Beautiful, he didn't even look at the dogs.
Josh: I knew she could do it because I knew she had it
in her, and the type of person that she is.
Cesar: If you need the support, "Honey, can you come with me?
But you gotta reward him.
Just relax, give him a massage, you know, and,
you know, motivate and inspire, that's really
the key here, you know what I mean?
Motivate, inspire your partner.
Kasey: You know, I think we considered ourselves
a team before, but then we would start pointing
fingers at the drop of a hat.
It's not gonna be that way any more.
Whatever you want to work for, you have to commit
to it and work for it and it's a good reward in the end.
Cesar: Most dog owners don't realize how much
their attitudes can affect their pet's behavior.
Suzanne: Hi Cesar, we just want to check in with you
and let you know that we're working really,
really hard with Casanova.
We've been exercising him as much as possible.
We got him in an agility class and Rick is running him
a lot and working on the treadmill now.
It's a work in progress, so we just want to let
you know we're working really hard.
Rick: Thank you, Cesar, for all of your help.
Suzanne: Thank you.
Cesar: Great work, guys.
I think Casanova was put in your lives to help you relax!
Kasey: Down.
Cesar: And in San Francisco, Sooner and Trace are finally
at peace.
With the support of her husband, Josh, Kasey Brown
has transformed herself into a true pack leader.
If your dog has a behavioral issue, think of it
as an opportunity for you to work on your own issues as well
Remember, our dogs are always our mirrors.
Thanks for joining us.