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DON GLENN: We're back again with Dr. Charlie Knight, whose
book "Gonzo Therapy" has skyrocketed up the New York
Times bestseller list to number one.
Congratulations.
CHARLIE KNIGHT: Thank you.
DON GLENN: It's gotta be heady times for you.
Just, um, two years ago you were a manager at a Kinko's.
CHARLIE KNIGHT: Mm-hm.
DON GLENN: And here you are today, kind of a bit of a rock
star, making your way around the country, very--
CHARLIE KNIGHT: I fancy myself as a
modern-day Abner Doubleday.
He created chess.
DON GLENN: Yes.
Uh, he played baseball, I think.
CHARLIE KNIGHT: Oh.
DON GLENN: Probably my mistake.
I'd like to move on to a highly
controversial subject matter.
Now, you don't view prescription medication as a
viable form of therapy.
CHARLIE KNIGHT: Unless they're used for recreation, then no.
It's your first week off the meds.
You getting exercise, going to the gym, vitamins, et cetera?
MALE SPEAKER: Mm-hm.
CHARLIE KNIGHT: How's that going?
MALE SPEAKER: It's getting really difficult.
DON GLENN: Never?
I have to imagine that that's backfired
on you at some point.
MALE SPEAKER: Why did you cancel my prescription?
I'm freaking bipolar man.
Bipolar.
CHARLIE KNIGHT: Not really.
You're angry.
You're angry.
MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.
CHARLIE KNIGHT: And I feel like I just want to discuss
this, like--
OK, well, the medication isn't for the patient.
It's for the family and friends to help them cope with
that patient.
DON GLENN: Interesting.
CHARLIE KNIGHT: It's all in chapter three, "[BLEEP]
the Family."
DON GLENN: Here it is. "[BLEEP]
the Family."