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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
WELCOME TO WALS.
I'M A VISITING FELLOW IN NIDCD.
TODAY IT IS MY GREAT HONOR TO
INTRODUCE MU-MING POO FROM THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AT
BERKELEY NOMINATED BY NIH
POSTDOC FELLOWS AND HERE I WANT
TO ENCOURAGE ALL THE FELLOWS TO
NOMINATE YOUR FAVORITE SCIENTIST
AND YOU MAY HAVE A CHANCE TO
HOST THEM.
DR. MU-MING POO RECEIVED HIS
BACHELOR DEGREE IN PHYSICS IN
1970 FROM TAIWAN AND PH.D. FROM
JOHN'S HOPKINS IN 1974.
GIVEN BY HIS PHYSICAL
BACKGROUND, HE HAS VERY
INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE TO STUDY
NUREE SCIENCE AND HAS BEEN
COUNTED BUTING ENORMOUS FIELDS.
IN 70s, HE DE+ELOPED A NUMBER
OF TOOLS TO STUDY THE MOBILITY
AND LOCALIZATION OF PROTEINS IN
CELL MEMBRANE DURING THE 80S HE
DEVELOPED NOVEL USES OF
RECORDING METHODS IN STUDYING
TRANSMETER SECRETION A'D SNAPPED
GENESIS.
DURING 90S, HE MADE MAJO)
CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR
UNDERSTANDING OF EXON GUIDANCE
AND SYNAPTIC PLASTICITY AND HE
MADE NOVEL USE OF CELL CULTURE
SYSTEM TO STUDY THE LAW OF
NEURO.
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IN REGULATING ACTIVITY DEPENDENT
SYNAPTIC MODIFICATION.
MORE RECENT STUDIES ALSO BEEN
CONTRIBUTED TO FORMULATION OF
THE IDEA OF TIMINt DEPENDENT
PLASTICITY AND THIS ARTICLE HAS
BEENCYTED OVER THOUSANDS OF
úAND THIS IS ALSO THE TOPIC SHE TEAMS.
GOING TO COVER TODAY.
DR. POO IS RECIPIENT OF AWARDS
AROUND THE WORLD.
JAPANESE NEUROSCIENCES
INVESTIGATOR AWARD FROM NIH.
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FROM PARIS, PEOPLE PUBLIC CHINA,
INTERNATIONAL SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY OPERATION.
HE IS (U)RENTLY MEMBER OF
ACADEMIA SENECA IN TAIWAN,
MEMBER OF NATIONAL ACADEMY OF
SCIENCES IN THE STATES AND ALSO
A FOREIGN MEMBER OF CHINESE
ACADEMY OF SCIENCES.
DURING HIS LONG SUCCESSFUL
CAREER, DR. ñOO HAD SERVED
SEVERAL FACULTIES IN TOP
UNIVERSITIES AT UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA AT IRVINE.
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AND COLUMBIA BEFORE HE JOINED
BERKELEY IN 2000 WHERE HE IS
CURRENTLY DISTINGUISHED
PROFESSOR IN BIOLOGY.
IN 1999 HE COFOUNDED AN
INSTITUTE OF NEUROSCIENCES AND
HAS BEEN SERVING THE DIRECTOR
EVER SINCE.
THISINS INSTITUTE A
NEUROSCIENCES PROGRAM IN CHINA
AND ALSO WHERE HE IS NURTURING
THE NEXT GENERATION OF
NEUROSCIENTISTS.
I VERY PROUD TO SAY I GRADUATED
FROM THIS INSTITUTE THREE YEARS
AGO SO IT IS REALLY GREAT TO SEE
DR. POO AGAIN.
AND THANK YOU FOR COMING.
TODAY HE IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT
NEUROPLASTICITY FROM SYNAPSE TO
PERCEPTION.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING
DR. POO.
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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT WAS A GREAT HONOR TO BE
INVITED BY FELLOWS.
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A FEW
STORIES ON THE NEUROPLASTICITY.
AS YOU KNOW, THE MOST REMARKABLE
FEATURE OF THE BRAIN IS THE
PLASTICITY, THE ABILITY TO
EXPERIENCE.ESPONSE TO
IT MAKES A HUMAN CAPABLE OF
REMARKABLE ABILITY OF RESPONDING
TO ENVIRONMENT AND CHANGING
ENVIRONMENT.
THE PLASTICITY OF THE BRAIN
STARTS WITH THE ACTIVITY.
IT TURNS OUT THAT ELECTRICAL
ACTIVITY IS THE MOST POST ENT
WAY OF CHANGING THE BRAIN
STRUCTURE AND FUNCTION.
ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE
SENSORY AND MOTOR FUNCTION OR
ASSOCIATED WITH COGNITIVE
EXPERIENCE, WILL ALTER THE
FUNCTION OF THE SYNAPSE AND THE
NEURONS IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE
FUTURE ACTIVITY THROUGH THE.
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THE LEARNING AND MEMORY DUE TO
THE EXPERIENCE WILL IMPRINT THE
STRUCTURE OF THE BRAIN SO THAT
THE COGNITIVE FUNCTION AND
BEHAVIORAL WILL BE ALTERED.
THE QUESTION HAS BEEN, OVER THE
LAST CENTURY, HOW THE ACTIVITY
EFFECTS THE NERVOUS SYSTEM.
THE IDEA THAT THE DIRECT ACTIONS
ON THE áV'APSE AND ON THE NEURON
ITSELF, THIS IDEA HEADS BEEN OR
HAS A LONG HISTORY BUT THE
PERSON WHO MOST EFFECTIVELY
SUMMARIZED AND PROPOSED THE
PROBLEM Rj CANADIAN PSYCHOLOGY.
ALTHOUGH HIMSELF IS NOT A
PHYSIOLOGIST THE COGNITIVE
FUNCTION CAN BE EXPLAINED BY
PHYSIOLOGICAL MECHANISMS.
SO IN A BOOK PEE HUB ENGLISHED
1949, HE PROPOSED A HYPOTHESES.
THIS IS KNOWN AS.
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IN THIS HYPOTHESES HE SAID THAT
THE PERCEPTUAL EXPERIENCE
CHANGED THE NERVOUS SYSTEM BY
CHANGING THE SYNAPSE.
NOW -- EXON OF A NEURON -- OF A
CELL A, IS NEAR ENOUGH TO EXCITE
CELL B AND REPETITIVELY AND TAKE
PRIDE IN FIRING THE CELL.
THEN THE ISN'T SICK TREATED.
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THROUGH CHANGES IN METABOLISM
AND GROWTH AND STRUCTURE
CO-RELATED ACTIVITY.
IN A PRESYNAPTIC CELL AND POST
SYNAPTIC CELL.
THIS LITERAL IDEA OF THE
SYNAPSE.
THIS IDEA WAS EXTENDED IN THE
70S FOR SYMMETRY.
IF THE ACTIVITY STRENGTHENS
SYNAPSE --
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THEN WE HAVE A NICE ASSEMETRY IN
THIS HYPOTHESES.
NOW THIS IDEA IS BECOME VERY
POPULAR.
WE NOW ALL SAY THAT NERVOUS
SYSTEM CELLS THAT FIRE TOGETHER
WIRE TOGETHER.
THIS IS THE SIMPLE RULE THIS
SILENT INTERESTING HYPOTHESES T
HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND SIN APP
ACTIVITY DEPENDENT PROCESS IN
THE BRAIN, ESPECIALLY IN EARLY
DEVELOPMENT.
NEURO EARLY DEPARTMENT AND
EARLIER CONNECTION WILL BE
REFINED BY EXPERIENCE NOW FOR
EXAMPLE, THE BEST EXAMPLE IN
TERMS OF LEARNING THIS RULE, IS
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MAPPING.
THE NEURONS SENSE EXON FROM
RETINA, THE GANG LA CELL EXON,
MAY CONNECT EXON FROM RETINA AND
TEMPORAL EXON GOES THROUGH THE
INTERLEND AND THE NASAL EXON
GOES TO THE POSTERIOROR IN ODD
PROJECTION.
NOW THIS PROJECTION IS
ESTABLISHED GRADUALLY IN
DEVELOPMENT.
IN EARLY DEVELOPMENT, THIS
PROJECTION APPEARED TO BE
DETERMINED BY GRADIENTS OF
MOLECULES IN THE NERVOUS SYSTEM.
THERE IS MENTION ON THE CELLS
THAT MATCHES GRADIENTS OF
MOLECULES IN THE TECTUM.
RECEPTORS HAS A GRADIENT IN
TECTUM CELL --
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THERE IS A LIGAND WHICH HAS A
COMPLEMENTARY GRADIENT, AND IF
THE EXON SEARCH OUT FOR A
COMPLEMENTARY GRADIENT, HIGHER
RECEPTOR SEARCH FOR LOWER LIGAND
OTHER LOWER RECEPTOR FOR HIGHER
LIGAND TO REACH A STEADY STATE
ACTIVATION OF THE PROCESS THAT
STOPPED EXON, ONE CAN IMAGINE
YOU CAN HAVE A PROJECTION WHICH
IS ARRANGED IN THE TECTUM.
THIS PROJECTION, LOOKING AT
EARLY DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE NOT
CORRECTLY SIZED.
AND IT TURNS OUT THE ACTIVITY
USE OF THE VISUAL SYSTEM CAN
SHAPE THIS PRO JECTION FROM THE
CELL TO THE TECTUM.
NOW USING THIS, YOU CAN
UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS.
FOR EXAMPLE, CELLS -- IN THIS
CASE, TAD POLE, SEEING VISUAL
STIMULUS ENVIRONMENT.
THE VISUAL STIMULUS TEND TO BE
CORRELATED IN SPACE AND TIME
SEEING OBJECT AND SOMETHING
FLYING FLEW THE -- THROUGH THE
SPACE.
THIS OBJECT INDIVIDUAL SPACE
TRIGGER CO-RELATED FIRING OF
NEIGHBORING GANG LA CELLS
BECAUSE THEY HAD ARE FIRING
CELLS PROJECTED TO THE
NEIGHBORING GANGLION CELLS.
SO NEIGHBORING GANGLION CELLS
TEND TO FIRE BECAUSE OF
CO-RELATED INPUT TOGETHER.
SO IMAGINE THE CELLS THAT FIRE
TOGETHER, THESE CELLS TEND TO
WIRE TOGETHER AND THEN THEIR
CONNECTION TO THE CENTRAL
PROJECTION WOULD BE STABILIZED.
WHILE GANGLION CELLS WHICH ARE
FAR AWAY, THEY TEND NOT TO BE
EXCITED BY AN OBJECT IN THE
FIELD.
THEY WILL NOT DEFINE AT THE SAME
TIME.
CAPTIONS RESUME LATER
THE STRENGTH ARE ALL THE SAME.
IT'S STARTING CONDITION.
NOW IF I GIVE A STIMULUS THAT
GIVES YOU A SEQUENTIAL
EXCITATION OF THIS THROUGH THIS
ENSEMBLE IN A SEQUENCE FROM LEFT
TO RIGHT.
THE RESULT WOULD BE THAT THE
SYNAPTIC CONNECTION WOULD BE
MODIFIED.
SO WE WILL FIRE THE PRE, POST,
FOR THE CONNECTION.
THE FORWARD DIRECTION
CONNECTION.
THE SYNAPSE ARE SEEN PRESYNAPTIC
ACTIVITY BEFORE POST SYNAPTIC
ACTIVITY.
SO THEY ALL BECOME STRENGTHENED.
REVERSE SYNAPSE BECOME WEAKENED,
ACCORDING TO STTP.
WE ALL AGREE ABOUT THAT, GIVEN
THE PROPER TIME OF THE
EXCITATION.
SO WE HAVE, AFTER TRAINING OF A
UNIDIRECTION SEQUENTIAL
ACTIVATION OF THIS ENSEMBLE OF
NEURONS.
WE CREATED ASYMMETRICAL ACTIVITY
BASED ON SVTP (?) SO IF WE GIVE
A PARTIAL STIMULUS, THAT IS JUST
TO GIVE A INITIAL POINTED,
BECAUSE OF STRENGTHENING OF THIS
GROUP, YOU TEND TO FIRE THE NEXT
GROUP OF NEURONS.
SO, A PARTIAL STIMULUS CAN NOW
EVOKE A SEQUENTIAL FIRING OF THE
GROUP THAT ARE CONNECTED BY
DOING THE TRAINING.
SO, ONE CAN IMAGINE THAT THE
MEMORY ARE STORED IN THE
CONNECTIVITY AND RECALLED BY
PARTIAL STIMULUS.
SO CAN WE SHOW THE CORD CALL
NEURON MIGHT BE USING
INTERCORTICAL CONNECTION TO
CARRY OUT THESE FUNCTIONS?
SO THE EXPERIMENT WAS DONE BY
TWO FORMER GRADUATE STUDENTS.
USING RAT V1 AND MULTILATERAL
RECORDING ON THE V1, WHICH
MAPPING THE RECEPTOR FIELDS OF
THIS VISUAL CORTEX.
SO, HERE ARE THE MAPS THAT FOR
16 ELECTRODES.
THEY ARE RESPONDING TO DIFFERENT
REGIONS ON THE VISUAL FIELD AND
THE MAP REGION CAN APPROXIMATE
BY THESE CIRCLES.
AND IF YOU RECORD FOR MORE OF
THESE NEURONS, THIS 16
ELECTRODES, WILL YOU FIND THAT
ACCORDING TO THE RECEPTIVE FEW
POSITION, THEY ARE FIRING MORE
OR LESS IN SEQUENCE.
THERE ARE THOSE CLOSER TO THIS
STUDY POINT TEND TO FIRE FIRST
AND THEN FIRING IN THE SEQUENCE.
WE CAN DEPICT THIS SEQUENTIAL
FIRING BY CODING THE NUMBER OF
SPIKES BY THE GREAT LEVELS OF
THE CIRCLES.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD GET
DOING DURING CONDITIONING.
VISUAL STIMULUS, A MOVING SPOT
IS MOVING ACROSS THE FIELD AND
THIS IS THE RECEPTIVE
ELECTRODES.
SO WHAT WE ARE SEEING SPEECHING
THROUGH THE CONDITIONING.
CONDITIONING THE FIRING IN A
SEQUENCE MOON THE 16 GROUP OF
NEURONS BEING RECORDED.
SO, THIS CONDITION PRESUMABLY
WOULD CREATE A MEMORY.
THIS MEMORY WOULD BE INHERENT IN
THE KICK ACTIVITIES AND THEN WE
CAN RECORD THIS MEMORY AND
RECALL THE SEQUENTIAL FIRING BY
FIRING ONLY THE STARTING POINT,
ONLY A FLUSH RATHER THAN A
MOVING SPOT.
THE FLESH ON THE END POINT
SHOULD NOT CREATE A SEQUENTIAL
FIRING EFFECTIVELY AS THE
STARTING POINT BECAUSE THE
CONNECTIVITY IS IN ONE
DIRECTION.
THIS IS WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING.
SO THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF THE
RESULT.
AND WE STUDIED AND TESTED THE
FLASH ON THE PRESUMED STARTING
POINTED OF THE TRENDING POINT.
THIS IS THE ROSTER OF 16
ELECTRODES.
SO THERE IS CONTINUOUS ACTIVITY
GOING ON.
IF WE PLUSH AT A STARTING POINT
OF THIS GROUP ENSEMBLE OF
NEURONS, YOU WILL SEE THERE IS
NO OTHER ACTIVITY THEY APPEARS
TO BE REPPEDDERED.
NOW IF WE GIVE YOU A SEQUENTIAL
ACTIVATION WITH A MOVING SPOT,
THEN THIS ACTIVITY STARTS TO BE
MORE SEQUENTIAL.
THE ONE THAT ACTIVATED -- THE
EARLIER THEY GET THE SEQUENTIAL
FIRING OF THE SET OF NEURONS.
SO THIS IS A TRAINING.
SO AFTER TRAINING, WE GO BACK TO
TEST AND SEE IF WE CAN RECORD
THIS ACTIVITY.
AND THE ANSWER IS YES.
7 TRIALS IN THIS CASE, AT LEAST
4 OF THE 7 SHOW VERY NICE MAYBE
5 OUT OF 7 SHOW VERY NICE
SEQUENTIAL SPIKING.
THAT WAS TESTED AFTER A FEW
MINUTES AFTER WE HAVE TREND
CONDITION THE CORTEX OF THE SO
WE CAN DO ANALYSIS WHICH I WILL
NOT BOTHER YOU ABOUT AND THE
CORRELATION OF THE SPIKING TO
SHOW THE SEQUENTIAL SPIKING AND
ANALYSIS USING THIS GRAPH
SHOWING AFTER THE CONDITIONING,
WE HAVE THIS ACTIVITY TOWARDS
THE ACTIVITY SHOWING A
SEQUENTIAL FIRING FOLLOWING THE
SEEQUENCE.
AND EITHER AWAKE ANIMAL OR
ANESTHETIZE ANIMAL.
THIS INCREASED SPIKE CAN BE
RECALLED BY THE BEGINNING POINTS
IN BOTH AWAKE AND ANESTHETIZED
ANIMALS OR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
CONDITIONING PATHS.
BUT NOT IN THE END.
IF YOU FASHION END YOU DON'T SEE
INCREASED CORRELATION.
IF YOU FLASH THE WHOLE BAR
RATHER THAN SEQUENTIAL
ACTIVATION, SO, THE WHOLE BAR
CONDITIONING PRODUCED NO
SEQUENTIAL ACTIVATION, THEN
AFTER THAT, YOU DON'T SEE THIS
INCREASED CORRELATION.
INCREASED SEQUENTIAL FIRING.
SO ALL OF THIS SUGGESTS THAT IN
DEED, IS THERE A MEMORY OF
SEQUENTIAL FIRING CREATED BY A
UNIDIRECTIONAL SEQUENTIAL
ACTIVATION OF THE CORTICAL
NEURONS.
AND THIS FIRING LASTS FOR A
COUPLE OF MINUTES.
IT'S NOT VERY LONG.
IN FACT, IN AWAKE ANIMALS, BY
SIX MINUTES AFTER CONDITIONING,
APPEAR TO BE NOT SIGNIFICANT OF
THE SO A FEW MINUTES OF MEMORY
OF A SEQUENTIAL INFORMATION
PRESUMABLY TIMING DEPENDENT
PLASTICITY.
NOW THE QUESTION IS THE SPIKE
TIMING OF THE CORTICAL NEURON
SUFFICIENT AND NECESSARY FOR THE
CORTEX TO LEARN THE SEQUENTIAL
INFORMATION?
SO WE CAN ALL TEST WITH THE NEW
TOOLS OF OPT GENETICS TOOLS AND
TEST WHETHER FIRING THE NEURON
DIRECTLY RATHER THAN VISUAL
STIMULUS, FIRING DIRECTLY
SEQUENTIAL MANNER, CAN YOU IN R.
IMPRINT SEQUENTIAL FIRING INTO
THE CIRCUIT?
THERE ARE TWO GRADUATE STUDENTS
DOING THIS EXPERIMENTS USING.
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THROUGH CORTEX AND THEN PUTTING
ELEC TOWED RECORD ALONG THE
CORTEX BY EXPRESSING USING LIGHT
ACTIVATION TO ACTEDIVATE NEURONS
DIRECTLY IN A SEQUENCE.
AND RIGHT AFTER THE
CONDITIONING, YOU CAN TEST
WHETHER THE -- YOU CAN RECALL
THE SEQUENTIAL FIRING.
NOW WITH THE OPT GENETIC
STIMULATION, YOU CAN SEE THIS
FIRING PSTH IS MUCH MORE REGULAR
THAN VISUAL STIMULUS BECAUSE WE
REALLY CONTROLLING THE GROUP OF
NEURONS.
YOU CAN SEE A NICE SEQUENTIAL
FIRING OF THE CELLS RECORDED BY
THESE ELECTRODES.
THE ANSWER FOR THIS IS AFTER OR
BEFORE THE CONDITIONING, TESTING
AT A END POINTED YOU DO NOT SEE
ANY SEQUENTIAL FIRING BUT WITH
CONDITIONING AS I SHOW YOU
BEFORE, THEN YOU TEST AGAIN YOU
BEGIN DO SEE THIS SEQUENTIAL
FIRING.
SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE.
BEFORE THE CONDITIONING YOU LOOK
AT THE GROUP OF ELECTRODES.
THIS IS MULTIUNIT RECORDING.
SEEMS TO BE RENDERED IN
SEQUENCE.
THEN CONDITIONING IMPOSES
SEQUENCE.
CONDITIONING BY LIGHT.
GIVE YOU SEQUENCE AND THEN AFTER
CONDITIONING, THE TEST WITH A
FLASH IN THE BEGINNING.
YOU START TO SEE SOME CLEAR
SEQUENTIAL FIRING IN MANY CASES.
SO, ACTIVATION OF NEURONS ITSELF
IS SUFFICIENT TO IMPRINT A
SEQUENTIAL INFORMATION THAT CAN
BE RECALLED BY PARTIAL STIMULUS
AT A STARTING POINT OF THIS
SEQUENCE.
THE CLEAR EXAMPLE OF SEQUENTIAL
FIRING AFTER CONDITIONING FOR
THE STARTING POINT FLASHES BUT
NOT FOR ENDPOINTS FLASH.
THE ANGEL FOR MANY CHOSE THIS
END RESULT.
SO THERE ARE STILL QUESTIONS TO
BE ADDRESSED.
FIRING CAN CREATE A SEQUENTIAL
INFORMATION.
IT'S THE SPIKING ITSELF REQUIRED
NECESSARY FOR VISUALLY INDUCED
MEMORY.
YOU HAVE A VISUALLY INDUCED
MOVING SPOT INDUCING SEQUENTIAL
MEMORY IN THE BRAIN.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE
CORTICAL NEURON FIRING.
SO I CAN DO THAT EXPERIMENT NOW
TO INHIBIT THE CORTICAL -- WE
ARE ASSUMING THIS IS DUE TO LTP
AND LTD.
WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT IT IS
VISUALLY CREATED, SEQUENTIAL
FIRING CAN REALLY PROMOTE
POTENTIATE LTP IN CREATING
UNIDIRECTIONAL MANNER AND LTD
AND OPPOSITE MANNER.
THIS IS TO BE SHOWN.
THERE ARE BRAIN STATE WE HAVE
SHOWN EXPERIMENT CHI DIDN'T TELL
YOU ABOUT, THE BRAIN STATE
WEATHER THE CELL IS CORTICAL IN
A AWAKE ALERT STATE OR DROWSY
SLEEPY STATE.
THERE ARE ABILITY TO RECORD THE
MEMORY, SEQUENCE MEMORY IS
DIFFERENT.
THIS APPEARS TO BE EASIER TO
RECORD IN MEMORY.
BUT, WHETHER THE LEARNING OF THE
SEQUENTIAL INFORMATION ALSO
BECOMES A STATE IS NOT CLEAR.
SO WE TEST RIGHT NOW.
SO WE ALSO SHOW SEQUENTIAL
ACTIVITY OF ACTIVATION OF A
GROUP OF CORTICAL NEURONS.
IF WE HAVE A NONACTIVATION FIXED
SEQUENCE OF RENDERED ENSEMBLE,
WOULD THOSE SEQUENCE FIRING
STILL BE RECALLED AMONG THIS
RANDOMLY SELECTED GROUP OF
ENSEMBLE?
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT
EXPERIMENT TO DO.
WHILE FINALLY, WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT A SHORTER MEMORY OF A FEW
MINUTES WE REMEMBER SEQUENCING
FORMATION AND THAT'S WHY I SHOW
YOU THE MUSIC, THE SEQUENCE OF
NOTES.
THOSE ARE SOMEWHERE IN OUR
BRAIN, SOMEWHERE, WE DON'T KNOW
WHERE THEY ARE.
ARE THEY IN THE CORTEX?
OR SOMEWHERE ELSE?
SEQUENCE INFORMATION CREATING
THE CORTEX A TEMPORAL STORAGE OR
LATER GET TRANSFERRED TO OTHER
PLACES?
THOSE ARE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.
SO I THINK I'M SLOWING
PRESENTING MY STORY BUT I'LL
TELL YOU ANOTHER STORY ABOUT HOW
THE INTERVAL CAN BE CODED.
I TALK ABOUT SEQUENCE.
IN THIS STUDY, WE USE RANDOMLY
CONNECTED HYPONEURON CULTURE
RATHER THAN RANDOM CONNECTION
ASSUMING IN VIVO.
NOW THIS YOU CAN HAVE A GROUP OF
HIPPOCAMPAL NEURON CULTURE IN
THE DISH.
EVERYBODY IS CONNECTED
BASICALLY.
AND SO IN THIS CASE, YOU CAN
CREATE PLASTICITY AND CREATE LTP
OR LTD BY FIRING THE CELL
SEQUENTIALLY.
OR FIRE THIS BEFORE THAT AND
THEN THE CONNECTION FROM THIS
CELL TO THAT CELL WILL BE
STRENGTHENING.
LTP AND LTD ARE DEMONSTRATED
VERY NICELY, ASYMMETRIC
DEPENDENT PLASTICITY IN THE
CULTURAL SYSTEM.
NOW WE ARE ASKED, CAN WE USE
THIS SPIKE TIMING TO STORE THE
MEMORY OF KIND INTERVAL?
NOW WHAT DO WE MEAN BY TIME
INTERVAL?
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS
CULTURE WILL WORK.
HERE IS A CULTURE WITH THE
RANDOMLY CONNECTED MEDIA THROUGH
MANY OTHER CELLS.
YOU HAVE A CELL BEING STIMULATED
AND CELL RECORDED IN THE
CULTURE.
NOW BECAUSE IT GOES THROUGH MANY
PATHWAYS TO REACH THE OTHER
CELL, IF YOU EXCITE ONE CELL,
THE RESPONSE YOU RECEIVE IN THE
RECORDED CELL COULD BE
MULTIPOLYSYNAPTIC GOING THROUGH
MANY SYNAPSE.
SO EACH OF THIS PEAK, IS
INVERTED SYNAPTIC CURRENT, THE
SYNAPTIC CURRENTS OF EACH PEAK
REP SEPTEMBER A TRANSMISSION OF
THE ACTION POTENTIAL SIGNAL FROM
ONE PATHWAY THAT PRODUCES DELAY
OF FIRST ONE ABOUT 20
MILLISECONDS TO REACH THE SECOND
CELL.
FOR THE SECOND PATHWAY, IT TAKES
LONGER TO REACH THE RECORDED
CELL.
THE THIRD PATHWAY EVEN LONGER.
SO BY LOOKING AT POLYSYNAPTIC
REPRODUCIBLE POLYSYNAPTIC
RESPONSE IN THE NEURON, YOU
ACTUALLY ARE MONITORING
PATHWAYS, SPECIFIC PATHWAYS IN
THIS NETWORK.
SO, THIS PATHWAY ARE VERY STABLE
FOR A PERIOD WE CAN CREATE A WAY
TO PRESENT THIS AMPLITUDE BY THE
COLOR, WHITER COLOR OR RED
COLORS USE HIGHER AMPLITUDE WITH
TIME.
THIS IS ONE TRACE HERE WILL BE
ONE TRACE HERE.
SO YOUR FIRST PEAK, SECOND PEAK,
THIRD PEAK.
AND WITH TIME, THIS PEAKS ARE
STABLE.
SO SAYING IN THE CULTURES, IT'S
QUITE STABLE CONNECTIVITY.
THE PATTERN IS CONNECTED.
SO NOW WE ASK WHAT HAPPENED IF
WE GIVE PATTERN INFORMATION INTO
THIS WITH INTERVAL INFORMATION
INTO THE SYSTEM?
NOW CAN WE REPEATEDLY LEAVE
IMPRINT IN THIS RANDOMLY
CONNECTED CELL?
WHAT IS THE SIMPLEST INTERVAL
INFORMATION?
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WITH FIXED INTERVAL.
SO THIS IS POST INTERVAL OF A
FIXED DURATION AND REPEAT AGAIN
AND AGAIN.
SO THAT IS SIMPLEST INTERVAL
INFORMATION WE CAN IMAGINE.
SO NOW THAT IS FIT IN THIS.
SIMPLE INTERVAL INFORMATION INTO
THE NETWORK AND ASK WHAT
HAPPENED TO THIS INFORMATION?
HOW ARE THIS EXPERIMENT?
THE SECOND AFTER THE INTERVAL,
YOU GIVE ANOTHER PAIR A
DEPOLARIZATION AND A SPIKE,
IDENTICAL, RIGHT?
SO BECAUSE OF THIS INTERVAL,
BETWEEN THIS, YOU WOULD
DETERMINE HOW THIS SIGNAL
RECEIVE TARGET CELLS GOING TO
INTERACT.
IF YOU CHOOSE THE AIRPORT VAL
RIGHT, THEN THE -- INTERVAL
RIGHT, THEN THE SUBFLESH OR
STIMULUS PRODUCED BY THE SECOND
PULSE AND SPIKE CREATED BY THE
FIRST PULSE.
THEN YOU GET A POTENTIATION OF
SYNAPSE AT THAT SITE.
LTP.
IF YOU CHANGE THE INTERVAL, MAKE
IT LONGER INTERVAL, YOU MIGHT
HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE INPUT
FALLS BEHIND THE SPIKE.
YOU GET A SITUATION OF LTD.
SO, BY DIFFERENT INTERVAL, WE
WILL BE ABLE TO CREATE LTP OR
LTD AT A VERY DIFFERENT SITE
ALONG THESE NETWORKS SOMEWHERE
WILL BE LTP AND SOMEWHERE WILL
BE LTD DEPENDING ON THE INTERVAL
OF THE PULSE.
NOW CAN WE FIND THAT?
CAN WE SEE THAT DIFFERENCE?
HOW DO WE SEE THAT?
WE CAN LOCATE THE POLYSYNAPTIC
RESPONSE.
HERE IS THE SIMPLEST ONE WHERE
WE HAVE OR HAVE ONE ELECTRODES
IN ONE CELL, STIMULATE
ELECTRODES AND RECORD RESPONSE
AFTER A FEEDBACK TO THAT CELL.
SO, WE ELIMINATE THE RECORDING
ELECTRODES.
SIMPLEST CASE.
SO WE HAVE RECORDING ARTIFACT
FOLLOWED BY AFTER STIMULATION
YOU GET A SYNAPTIC CURRENT
RECORDING IN THE SAME CELL.
THIS COMES AFTER A CIRCUIT THAT
ACTIVATED CELL.
THEN AFTER THIS, THIS IS A
STABLE RECORDING, WE GIVE
REPETITIVE PULSE INTO THE SYSTEM
AND AFTER 50 PAIRS, 20 PARIS OF
THE 50 MILLISECOND INTERVAL,
WHAT HAPPENS IS NEW PEAKS APPEAR
STIMULATING THE SAME CELL.
WHAT DO THESE NEW PEAKS MEAN?
NEW PATHWAY BEING ACTIVATED WITH
DELAY OF LONGER DELAY OF TWO
DIFFERENT PEAKS.
THESE TWO PEAKS ARE THE LONGER
DELAY REPRESENTING NEW PATHWAYS
OF WHICH ARE LONGER THAT
ACTIVATED.
NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER EXAMPLE
WHERE WE HAVE A POLYSYNAPTIC
PEAK AFTER STIMULATION OF 30
MILLISECOND INTERVAL PAIRS, TWO
PAIRS FOR 20 PAIRS.
AFTER THIS INTERVAL,
STIMULATION, THIS EARLY PAIR,
SOME OF THE PEAKS DISAPPEAR.
AND THE PATTERN CHANGES
SOMETIMES NEW RESPONSE APPEARED
AND SOMETIMES RESPONSE
DISAPPEAR.
POLYSYNAPTIC RESPONSE DISAPPEAR.
SO PATHWAY TURNING ON AND OFF BY
THIS DIFFERENT INTERVAL OF
STIMULATION.
SO, THIS IS WHAT IS REPRESENTED.
YOU SEE THE SAME CELLS AND WE
ARE USING ONE SINGLE CELL.
YOU USE STIMULATION RECORDING.
AND THERE ARE MANY PATHWAYS THAT
FEEDBACK TO THE SAME CELL.
IN THE BEGINNING, WITH THE 60
MILLISECOND INTERVAL PAIRS, 20
PAIRS PRODUCING NO PERMANENT
EFFECT.
WE HAVE THREE PIECE THAT SEEMS
TO BE STABLE.
TWO PIECES SEEM TO BE STABLE.
NOW WHEN YOU CHANGE TO 60, SAME
CELL, WE NOW HAVE TRAINING PARIS
OF 40 MILLISECONDS OF 60
MILLISECONDS.
IMMEDIATELY YOU HAVE NEW PATHWAY
TURN ON.
STABLE FOR AN HOUR.
WE NOW CREATE A NEW PATHWAY
WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
SO THIS IS A CONSISTENT WITH
DISTRIBUTED LTP AND LTD.
CONSISTENT BUT DO DEMONSTRATE
WHETHER IN PARTICULAR SITE THERE
IS LTP AND LTD, WE ACTUALLY
PERFORM REALLY TEDIOUS
EXPERIMENT TO SHOW THAT IS
ACTUALLY INDEED HAPPENING.
SO THIS IS REPRODUCIBLE IT'S NOT
AS RENDERED.
BECAUSE HERE YOU SEE 100
MILLISECOND PRODUCE NO EFFECTS.
50 MILLISECONDS PRODUCE BIG
CHANGE.
AND 20 MILLISECOND PRODUCE
FURTHER CHANGE.
SO, IN SHORT, THE ANSWER FROM
THIS IS THE CONCLUSION FROM THIS
AREA OF STUDY IS THAT MEMORY OF
INTERVAL UP TO 200 MILLISECONDS,
CAN BE STORED IN THE NETWORK OF
20 NEURONS, CULTURE NEURONS.
BY THE WAY WE ASSAYED IT IS TO
LOOK AT A CHANGES IN THE
PROBABILITY OF THESE
POLYSYNAPTIC PEAKS THAT R.
MODIFIED AFTER THAT PARTICULAR
INTERVAL FOR A NUMBER OF PARIS.
MANY EXCHANGES, MOST OF THEM ARE
DEPENDING UPON AMDA RECEPTORS.
IF YOU BLOCK WITH.
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VERY LITTLE CHANGE WILL BE
OBSERVED.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT IN TEMPORAL
INFORMATION, CAN BE SPECIFICALLY
DISTRIBUTED, LTP AND LTD BY
SPIKE TIMING DEPENDENT
PLASTICITY AT SYNAPTIC SITE.
WHERE IS THAT WITHIN A NETWORK?
EXACTLY WHERE?
DEPENDS ON PATHWAY.
SO, IS THIS A GOOD MODEL?
REALISTIC MODEL?
IN REAL LIFE, YOU EXCITE ONE
NEURON, YOU DON'T FIRE THE NEXT
NEURON.
BECAUSE THE SYNAPTIC INPUT FROM
ONE NEURON TO ANOTHER IS ALWAYS
SUB FLESH.
BUT YOU CAN FIRE A GROUP OF
NEURONS AND FIRE A NEXT GROUP OF
NEURONS.
SO, IN THIS CULTURE MODEL, WE
ARE SAYING THAT EACH CULTURE
NEURON BECAUSE OF THE INTENSE
CONNECTIVITY, THEY ARE
REPRESENTATIVE A GROUP OF
NEURONS.
WHAT WE ARE SHOWING IS FIRING
GROUPS OF NEURONS ACTIVATED EACH
OTHER THROUGH DIFFERENT PATHWAYS
AND THAT PATH ELEVENTH CAN BE
USED TO STORE INFORMATION BASED
ON THE DELAY, SYNAPTIC DELAY.
IN THIS CASE, THE LONGEST WE CAN
SHE CHANGES 200 INTERVAL CAUSES
CHANGES IN THESE.
SO, AT LEAST INTERVALS OF THIS
SHORT TIME ACTUALLY CAN BE MEM
RIDES.
SO HOW ABOUT LONGER TIME
INTERVAL?
WHAT WOULD THAT HAPPEN?
NOW ORIGINALLY POSTULATE.
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THE WAY THAT PERCEPTUAL
INFORMATION IS ENGRAINED IN THE
BRAIN IS TO CREATE A ACTIVITY
AMONG THE GROUP OF NEURONS,
CALLED CELL ASSEMBLE.
THIS ACTIVITY CREATED BY THE
PERCEPTUAL EXPERIENCE THAT WOULD
LAST FOR A WHILE, WE CALORIE
EVENTUATING ACTIVITY.
AND THAT REVERBERATING ACTIVITY
IS THE ACTIVITY THAT FIRES THE
CELLS TOGETHER AND KICK THE LONG
TERM.
ANOTHER ACTIVITY WOULD BE THE
MECHANISM TO STRENGTHEN THE
CONNECTIVITY AMONG THE SET OF
CELLS.
NOW THIS IS PERHAPS POSTULATE.
NOW OVER 60 YEARS PERIOD, PEOPLE
HAVE LOOKED FOR THE REVERBATION.
MOST PEOPLE SAID NO REVERBATION,
HARD TO FIND IT.
PERCEPTION, YOU CAN NOT SEE
REVERBERATING ACTIVITY STILL
GOING ON IN A CIRCUIT AFTER THE
EXPERIENCE GONE.
WE DECIDED A FEW YEARS AGO TO
TEST THIS IN ZEBRAFISH WITH
LARGE GROUP OF AS WELL AS
IMAGING.
HERE YOU CAN SEE MANY CELLS
ANDIST AT THE AFTER EXPERIENCE
THAT CAN BE MONITORED BY CALCIUM
ACTIVITY.
IT REFLECTS THE SPIKING, SPIKING
ON NEURONS.
EACH CALCIUM REFLECT THE NUMBER
OF SPIKES THAT DIRECTLY
PROPORTIONAL TO THE NUMBER OF
SPIKES.
INTEGRATED RESPONSE OF SPIKING.
SO, IF YOU TAKE A EFFECT UM AND
GIVE A STIMULUS TO THE -- TECH
TUM -- GIVE A STIMULUS TO THE
CEREBRA FISH, YOU SEE MANY
ACTIVE.
THIS IS A --
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SOME NEURONS ARE NOT ACTIVE.
EVERY SWEEP OF THE MOVING BAR
ACROSS PRODUCE A TREND HERE.
THEY ARE GOING VERY, VERY NICELY
FOLLOWING THE SWEEPING OF THE
VISUAL STIMULUS ACROSS THE
RETINA.
SO WOULD THIS VISUAL PERCEPTION
OF REPETITIVE BARS ACROSS THE
RETINA CREATIVITY IN THE
ENSEMBLE OF CELLS THAT ARE
LASTING LONGER THAN THE
STIMULUS?
WELL, HE FOUND SOME.
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE.
FIRST HE SHOWED THAT THIS
ACTIVITY IN THE TECH TUM ARE
HIGHLY SPECIFIC.
THIS IS REPRESENTATIVE OF
CALCIUM IMAGING.
CALCIUM ACTIVITY REFLECTS 180
CELLS, VERY REPRODUCIBLE FOR
LEFT MOVING BAR THAT CREATED A
SET OF FIRING, THAT IS DIFFERENT
FROM A RIGHT MOVING BOX.
SOME OVERLAP BUT A LOT OF
SPECIFIC TO THE DIRECTIONAL FEED
OF THE BAR.
THEY ARE REPRODUCIBLE AND
REPRODUCED THE SAME FIRING.
SO, DIFFERENT ENSEMBLE OF CELLS
RESPONDING TO LEFT WORK
PERCEPTION, RIGHT WORK
PERCEPTION AND SOME USE FOR LEFT
AND RIGHT.
THAT IS VERY SIMPLE.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT
HAPPENED?
SO WHAT HE FOUND IS THAT AFTER
THE PERCEPTION, AFTER THE MOVING
AND CONDITIONING, IT STOPPED
WITH CONDITIONING AND WATCHED
THE CALCIUM ACTIVITY AND FOUND
THAT THERE IS A REPEATED
CORRELATED CALCIUM ACTIVITY
AFTER CONDITION STIMULUS HAD
STOPPED.
HERE IS AGAIN REPETITIVE
ACTIVITY.
NOT TOO MANY CASES BUT THERE
WILL BE A FEW REPEATS AFTER THE
CONDITIONING.
THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT
THIS REPEAT IS EXACTLY THE RIGHT
INTERVAL AS THE CONDITIONING
RESPONSE.
SO THE CONDITIONING OF 4
MILLISECONDS -- 4 SECOND
INTERVAL -- AFTER TERMINATION OF
CONDITIONING 4 SECOND, 8 SECOND
YOU GET ACTIVITY.
HE USES 6 SECOND INTERVALS AFTER
CONDITIONING WAIT FOR 6 SECOND,
12 SECONDS, 18 SECONDS.
YOU GOT CALCIUM ACTIVITY.
CALCIUM ACTIVITY REAPPEAR WITH
THE RIGHT INTERVAL AND CONDITION
INTERVAL.
AND 10 MILLISECONDS YOU HAVE A
REPEAT AFTER 10, 20, IN ONE CASE
30 MILLISECOND.
YOU GOT ACTIVITY.
NOW THIS IS VERY STRIKING
BECAUSE YOU THINK ABOUT THE
FISH.
ACTUALLY REMEMBERING THE BEATS
OF THE STIMULUS THAT ARE -- ONCE
EVERY 10 SECONDS YOU GET A
STIMULUS.
AND THE FISH ACTUALLY REMEMBER
10 SECONDS LATER THE BEAT WILL
COME AND THEY SHOW THE CALCIUM
ACTIVITY.
SO, MY TIME IS ALMOST UP.
- I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A FUN
MOVIE SHOWING HOW THIS EFFECTS
THE BEHAVIOR OF THE FISH.
THE BEHAVIOR CAN BE THE FISH
ACTIVITY IMMOBILIZE ON A STAGE.
WE CAN LOOK AT THE TAIL.
THE TAIL MOVE.
SO THEIR TAIL CAN SWING.
THE HEAD IS THE AMOUNT OF
CALCIUM.
SO WE ASK WHEN THE CALCIUM
ACTIVITY HAS OSCILLATIONS AFTER
THE CONDITIONING, WHAT HAPPENED
TO THE FISH BEHAVIOR?
WELL, IN DOING THE CONDITIONING,
EVERY FLASH PRODUCES A TAIL
SWEEP.
THE TAIL SWEEP IS A RESPONSE OF
THE TAIL.
YOU CAN MONITOR THE TAIL
MOVEMENT.
SO THE TAIL, 60-70% OF CASES,
EVERY VISUAL STIMULUS CREATED A
TAIL RESPONSE.
BUT AFTER THE CONDITIONING, WAIT
FOR TWO MORE INTERVAL, 6 AND HE
COULD 12 SECOND, TWO MORE SWEEP
EXACTLY AT THE TIME OF 6 SECOND
INTERVAL.
THE TAIL SWEEP AGAIN.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE TIME IF YOU
LOOK TAT IT TELLS THE IMAGING,
THE WAVE OF CALCIUM REAPPEAR ON
THE SAME GROUP OF CELLS THAT ARE
BEING CONDITIONED.
SO, THAT'S SHOW YOU THIS IS
REALLY HOW GOOD THE TAD POLE IS
MEMORIZING.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU LAST 4
CONDITION STIMULUS.
EVERY 6 SECOND.
THE SONG -- I PUT IN THE SONG
AND THE FLASH IS THE LIGHT,
THAT'S THE STIMULUS.
SONG IS FOR YOU TO RECOGNIZE THE
TIME.
YOU SEE THIS IS LAST CONDITION
STIMULUS AND NO MORE STIMULUS.
WAIT FOR 6 SECONDS.
NO STIMULUS.
6 SECONDS.
I BET THERE ARE -- THE FISH TIME
IT BETTER THAN YOU WILL.
KEEPING THE TIME.
AND THIS TIME IS EXACTLY THE
TIME WHEN THE CALCIUM
OSCILLATION GOES UP IN THAT
GROUP OF CELLS.
SO, I THINK I HAVE TWO MINUTES
LEFT FOR MY TIME.
I REALLY WANT TO SHOW YOU A SET
OF EXPERIMENT.
THIS IS REALLY THE HIGH-LEVEL.
WE TALK ABOUT THE PERCEPTION.
THE PERCEPTION THAT MOST
HIGH-LEVEL PERCEPTION IS THE
SELF AWARENESS, CONSCIOUSNESS.
WE SEE A MIRROR, MY FACE IN THE
MIRROR, THAT IS ME.
I'M AWARE OF MYSELF.
THE ONLY HUMANS ARE SPECIES OF
GREAT APES ARE KNOWN TO
RECOGNIZE THEMSELVES IN THE
MIRROR.
BABY, HUMAN BABY TAKES TWO YEARS
IN ORDER FOR THEM TO ACQUIRE
THIS ABILITY TO SEE THEMSELVES
IN THE MIRROR.
SO THIS MAYBE ACQUIRED ABILITY.
SOME PSYCHIATRIC PATIENTS OF
AUTISTIC KIDS LOST ABILITY, LOST
SELF AWARENESS, DOESN'T PAY
ATTENTION TO THE MIRROR AND
PROBABLY DOESN'T RECOGNIZE
HIMSELF IN THE MIRROR.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHERE IS THE
ORIGIN OF THIS SELF AWARENESS?
MOST SPECIFICALLY, MIRROR IS
SELF RECOGNITION AND AACQUIRED,
CAN WE REINTRODUCE?
REPAIR THE -- CURE THE
IMPAIRMENT BY TREND?
THIS IS THE MONKEY.
MONKEY, RHESUS MONKEY CANNOT DO
IT.
THEY CANNOT RECOGNIZE THEMSELVES
IN THE MIRROR.
SO, SO THE HUMAN BRAIN, AT TWO
YEARS OF AGE, THERE IS
TREMENDOUS GROWTH OF NETWORK.
DOING THIS IN GROWTH, MANY
ABILITY ARE APPEARING.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE
ACQUISITION OF THE SELF
AWARENESS IS BECAUSE OF THIS
THROUGH LEARNING.
SO WE RECENTLY, THIS IS ALSO
NONPUBLISHED.
I THINK AGREE FOR ME TO TALK
ABOUT THIS EVEN THOUGH IT'S
UNPUBLISHED.
THIS IS A FUN EXPERIMENT, YOU
WILL SEE.
WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO IS TO
TRAIN MONKEY TO LEARN
ASSOCIATION OF AN IMAGE IN THE
MIRROR.
THIS IS IMAGE IN THE MIRROR.
THE MONKEY IS SITTING ON THE
CHAIR.
WE LEARN ASSOCIATION OF A VISUAL
AND SENSORY ASSOCIATION FIRST BY
THE SHINING OF THE LASER LIGHT
AT THE HIGHER POWER THAT GIVES
SOME FEELING, SOME PROBABLY
TWINKLING FEELING.
I FEEL A LITTLE BIT OF HEAT ON
THE MONKEY.
SO, WHEN MONKEYS SEE THIS IMAGE
IN THE MIRROR, IT FEELS A
SENSATION IN HIS OWN FACE.
NOW THIS CAN BE VERY EASILY
TRAINED.
THE MONKEY, VERY QUICKLY, THEY
WILL TOUCH THAT POINT.
NOW PEE GIVE THE FOOD IN ORDER
TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO TOUCH THE
SPOT BECAUSE AFTERWARDS, WE ARE
NOT USING HIGH-POWERED LASER.
AFTER A FEW WEEKS OF TRAINING,
YOU NOW USE A VERY LOW POWER
LASER THAT PRODUCES NO FEELING
IN HUMANS AND THEY WILL DO THIS.
THEY WILL LOOK AT THE MIRROR AND
THEN TOUCH THE SPOT.
NOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN
TRAINED TO DO THIS, THEY CAN
RECEIVE FOOD.
SO THAT IS WHY THE FOOD REWARD
IS USEFUL IN THE BEGINNING.
NOW BUT THE REAL STANDOUT TEST
IN THE FIELD SINCE 40 YEARS AGO,
DEMONSTRATING APES CAN HAVE CELL
RECOGNITION -- SELF RECOGNITION
IN THE MIRROR BUT NOT MONKEY, 40
YEARS AGO.
THE STANDARD TEST TO MARK ON THE
FACE OF THE MONKEY AND SEE WHERE
THE MONEY LOOKING IN THE MIRROR
AND TOUCH THAT DOT.
NOW THIS IS CALLED A MARK TEST.
THE MARK TEST IS THE MARK ON A
MONKEYY FACE AND THE MONKEY
WOULD TOUCH AFTER THE TRAINING.
NOW NO FOOD.
NOW THEY ARE NOT REWARDED.
THEY JUST ROTATE THEIR FACE AT A
DIFFERENT MARK, DIFFERENT COLOR.
GREEN DYE ON THEIR FACE THEY
SCRATCH AND LOOK.
AND THIS IS THREE MORNINGIES
LEARNED VERY, VERY WELL WITHOUT
MIRRORS AND WITH MIRROR THEY
TOUCHED.
TOUCH THE SPOTS OR TOUCH THE DYE
MARK.
NOW THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
YOU HAVE TO SHOW THE SPONTANEOUS
ACTIVITY, NOT ON THE CHIMP --
THEY SPONTANEOUS LOOK FOR THE
MIRROR AND BRING IT TO BEHAVIOR,
RIGHT?
SO THIS IS FIRST WE DO DYE TEST
IN THE WELL-TRAINED MONKEY.
IN THE CAGE IS THERE A MIRROR.
THEY LOOK AND THEY APPEAR TO
LOOK AND ACTUALLY, FIND THREE
MONKEY TRAINED.
ONLY TWO ACTUALLY CAN DO THIS IN
A CAGE.
ONE MONKEY FAILED TO BE
INTERESTED IN THE MIRROR IN THE
CAGE, IN THE HOME CAGE.
AND THE TIMING, THEY LOOK, THEY
TIMELY TOUCH THE FACE, ALWAYS
THE TIME THEY LOOK IN THE
MIRROR.
IT'S NOT COINCIDENCE.
THEY CAN FOLLOW A SPOT.
THIS IS SPOT THAT PRODUCE NO
SENSATION.
DIFFERENT COLORS AND FOLLOW THE
SPOTS AND THEY VERY NICE
RESPONSE IN AWL THREE MONKEYS.
SO NOW FINAL TEST.
ARE THEY LOOKING AT A MIRROR AND
TOUCH FACE AS CONDITION
RESPONSE?
ANY FACE WITH A MONKEY FACE?
WITH A SPOT ON THE FACE, THEY
WILL TOUCH BECAUSE THEY ARE
REALLY SEEING THAT THEMSELVES?
WELL, ONE WAY IS THAT YOU PUT
ANOTHER MONK NETHERE WITH THEIR
FACE MARK ON THE FACE AND THE
MONKEY LOOK AT EACH OTHER.
THEY LOOK AT THE OTHER MONKEY
WITH THE FACE MASK AND TOUCH THE
OTHER MONKEY TOUCH THEMSELVES.
SO COHORTS WITH THE NAIVE MONKEY
WITH THE FACE MARK.
THIS IS THE ONE EXPERIMENT.
SO NAIVE MONKEY IS THE YELLOW
COLLAR.
SO THE NAIVE MONKEY HAS A MARK
ON THE FACE AND THE TRAINED
MONKEYS DOESN'T TOUCH HIS OWN
FACE, HE TOUCH THE FACE OF THE
NAIVE MONKEY.
AND WHEN HE LOOKS ON HIS OWN, HE
WILL TOUCH ON HIS OWN.
THE TRAINED MONKEY ALWAYS TOUCH
HIS OWN FACE.
NOW FINALLY, THE TEST IS A
BETTER TEST.
NOW BEFORE I SAY THAT, SO WE
HAVE ANOTHER MONKEY.
THIS IS CALLED THE GLASS MIRROR
TEST.
WE ULTIMATELY THE GLASS
TRANSPARENT GLASS IN THE MIRROR
WITH TWO MONKEYS.
BOTH MARK SAME POSITION
CORRESPONDING POSITION.
SO THE MONKEY, TRAINED
MORNINGIES LOOKING THROUGH A
GLASS, ANOTHER MONKEY WITH THE
SAME MARK.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN?
DOES HE TOUCH HIS OWN FACE OR
HAVE SOCIAL BEHAVIOR?
THE ANSWER IS THEY HAVE SOCIAL
INTERACTION.
THEY NEVER TOUCH HIS OWN FACE.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE MIRROR.
HALF OF THE TIME WITH GLASS,
HALFTIME WITH MIRROR, BACK AND
FORTH.
WHEN THE MIRROR WAS PRESENTED,
THE MONKEY WILL TOUCH HIS OWN
FACE.
THIS IS THE MIRROR GLASS TEST.
WITH THE GLASS WALL, THE ONLY
TIME THEY APPEAR, IS THERE A
SOCIAL BEHAVIOR THROUGH THE
GLASS WITHOUT TOUCHING.
NOW THE MIRROR IS IN.
SO IT APPEARS THAT THIS WORKED.
THAT THE GLASS MIRROR, HE SEEMED
TO RECOGNIZE HIMSELF.
SO FINALLY NOT ON THE FACE BUT
IN ANOTHER AREA, THEY HAVE NEVER
BEEN TRAINED, LIKE EAR, THEY
WOULD LOOK AT THIS TRAINED
MONKEY WOULD LOOK AND REACH.
THEY WOULD LOOK AT THEMSELVES IN
PLACES WHERE THEY ARE CURIOUS
ABOUT.
THE NAIVE MONKEY --
[ LAUGHS ]
OKAY, IMPLICATIONS, RHESUS
MONKEY LEARNED MIRROR SELF
RECOGNITION.
HUMAN BABIES, THEY ACQUIRE THE
80 VIA LEARNING DURING THE FIRST
TWO YEARS.
IMPAIRMENT OF SELF AWARENESS MAY
BE TREATED WITH TRAINING.
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO CONTRIBUTE
TO THE WORK.
I MENTIONED MOST OF THEM.
BOTH IN UCSD AND BERKELEY AND
NOW IN SHANGHAI.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]