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Announcer: The David Pakman Show at www.DavidPakman.com.
David Pakman: We're starting to hear, Louis, from more potential Republican 2012 presidential
candidates, and I have to tell you, if I am a Republican right now, I'm pretty concerned,
because a lot of the names being floated just don't strike me as people that have even the
most remote chance of winning at all. I mean, I would say, to start with, Mitt Romney is
someone that should actually have a good shot at winning, he's our former governor, of course,
Louis, and the thing is he is going to get into so much trouble with this Massachusetts
health care/national health care reform situation. It is... it's written on the wall, is it not?
Louis Motamedi: Right. I mean, I guess he could argue that it works, that it's a good
thing.
David: And he'll lose the Republican primary if he does that. That's what he should be
saying, that's the truth, but he'll lose.
Louis: Probably, yeah.
David: We've already heard... to give you the background, Mitt Romney was involved in
passing a health care reform bill while he was governor here in Massachusetts that has
components that are similar to those that Republicans hate about the Obama health care
reform bill. And the reality is Mitt Romney, this should be Mitt-- let's be honest, I don't
think that being a business CEO should be his top credential. I think it's sad when
people consider that the best thing to look for in a presidential candidate. I think it
should be his biggest point of something he has accomplished, Ezra Klein wrote just the
other day about Massachusetts health care, more than 98% of Massachusetts residents now
have health insurance, and more than 99%, Louis, of the children in Massachusetts have
health insurance. It's incredible.
Louis: Well, if he decides to run as a Democrat, I'm sure it'll work well.
David: Well, but here's the thing, when this was passed, he said, quote, "An achievement
like this comes around once in a generation. Today, Massachusetts is leading the way with
health insurance for everyone, without a government takeover and without raising taxes." But Karl
Rove has already indicated health care-- Romneycare will be a problem for Mitt Romney. Other Republican
so-called, self-proclaimed experts have said health care is something Romney might have
to denounce.
Imagine that, ladies and gentlemen. Over 98% of Massachusetts residents have care, and
Mitt Romney would have to distance himself from something he said was a great achievement
in order to even have a shot. And he said, actually, in an interview, well, I would be
for something like what Obamacare has in it if it was the states that decided to pass
it. Uh-oh. That's a red flag, ladies and gentlemen. An explanation like that from a politician
is a red flag.
Then we have Sarah Palin. I actually don't think Palin will run. I don't think she wants
to be president. But let's be honest, she was able to finish her governorship before
her term was up. She did everything in such little time that she was able to get out of
there before her term was even up. Now, to me, that's scary.
And she's also said well, I will step forward and run for president if no one else does
that can solve the economic problems. Really? She has the answer, Louis, to all of the economic
problems of the country, but she won't tell us. Only if nobody else runs that can fix
the economy will she run. Selfish, isn't it? She's hiding the solution!
Louis: If she does run, do you think she has a chance anyway?
David: No, I don't... I think she has no chance at...
Louis: No, at winning the primary.
David: No, I think she has no chance at winning the primary, and I think she doesn't want
to be president. She makes a lot more money and probably has a much more convenient schedule
doing what she does now.
And then there's Newt Gingrich. Now, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum both have had their
Fox News contributor contracts suspended for 60 days because of what Fox I guess said is
expected or possible runs for the presidency, and we'll see what happens in 60 days, they
basically said. I think Newt Gingrich any hour now, I mean, by the time you hear this,
if you're listening to us on podcast or later on on TV or radio, they may have already happened.
Newt Gingrich's personal history has to become an issue, right, Louis? I mean, multiple divorces,
questionable affairs, and his holier-than-thou moral majority attitude combined with kind
of a troubled personal history, we have to assume that will become an issue for him.
Louis: Of course, yeah. And he'll have to talk about it, and I don't know how it will
affect him, but it'll be an issue.
David: The thing is, I actually think Newt Gingrich, other than that, is actually one
of the better candidates. Not better in that I like his policies...
Louis: People like him.
David: Just more viable candidates from the Republicans. And I think Newt Gingrich and
Mitt Romney, of the probable candidates, and, actually, I think Jeb Bush, even though I
would never vote for the guy, don't agree with his politics, and the last thing I want
is another Clinton or Bush as president in this country, I think actually would have
a pretty good shot for a number of reasons.
Louis: Which reasons?
David: Number one, appeal to Hispanic voters, which are a larger and larger percentage of
the population. Now, I know, being from Argentina myself, that really, the only even relatively
conservative Hispanic voting group is Cubans. Other than that, Hispanic voters tend to be
pretty liberal, much more liberal than me, in many cases. And I think Jeb Bush might
be able to appeal in that sense, I mean, given that I think his wife is Hispanic. I just
don't know that he's running.
And then, of course, Mike Huckabee. Mike Huckabee, I think he can't win, I don't know that he'll
run. He has had a lot of trouble raising money, and let's be honest, have you heard some of
the things he's said recently? He's now into the Obama's Kenyan upbringing as a kid has
shaped his worldview. He didn't go to Kenya until he was 20.
Louis: And to think he seemed somewhat reasonable as a candidate last election.
David: [Laughs] It is bizarre...
Louis: Yeah.
David: How things change. Well, to think that Sarah Palin seemed like a good decision to
the McCain camp...
Louis: Well, for the first few months, it was.
David: But you have to assume, I believe, Louis, tell me if you disagree, if we knew
what we know about Sarah Palin now, the Republican ticket of John McCain would never think of
bringing Sarah Palin on.
Louis: No, of course not. No way. That might be what lost him the election.
David: Oh, absolutely. Among other things.
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