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HELLO AND WELCOME TO AT ISSUE. I AM H. WAYNE WILSON. THERE IS ONE WORD IN THE ENGLISH
I AM H. WAYNE WILSON. THERE IS ONE WORD IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE THAT STRIKES FEAR
THERE IS ONE WORD IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE THAT STRIKES FEAR REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU ARE, AND
LANGUAGE THAT STRIKES FEAR REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU ARE, AND THAT WORD IS REQUEST "CANCER."
REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU ARE, AND THAT WORD IS REQUEST "CANCER." WE WILL TALK ABOUT HOW TO
THAT WORD IS REQUEST "CANCER." WE WILL TALK ABOUT HOW TO SURVIVE CANCER, NOT FROM THE
WE WILL TALK ABOUT HOW TO SURVIVE CANCER, NOT FROM THE MEDICAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM
SURVIVE CANCER, NOT FROM THE MEDICAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM THE SUPPORT MECHANISM
MEDICAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM THE SUPPORT MECHANISM PERSPECTIVE.
THE SUPPORT MECHANISM PERSPECTIVE. WE HAVE A PANEL OF EXPERIENCE
PERSPECTIVE. WE HAVE A PANEL OF EXPERIENCE HERE. WE HAVE A DOCTOR.
WE HAVE A PANEL OF EXPERIENCE HERE. WE HAVE A DOCTOR. WE HAVE A PATIENT.
HERE. WE HAVE A DOCTOR. WE HAVE A PATIENT. WE HAVE SOME SUPPORT PEOPLE.
WE HAVE A PATIENT. WE HAVE SOME SUPPORT PEOPLE. LET ME INTRODUCE THEM TO YOU.
WE HAVE SOME SUPPORT PEOPLE. LET ME INTRODUCE THEM TO YOU. DEBRA DISNEY IS JOINING US.
LET ME INTRODUCE THEM TO YOU. DEBRA DISNEY IS JOINING US. DEBRA IS A COUNSELOR WITH THE
DEBRA DISNEY IS JOINING US. DEBRA IS A COUNSELOR WITH THE CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY
DEBRA IS A COUNSELOR WITH THE CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING.
CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING. A FACILITATOR, KIDS KONNECTED,
LIVING. A FACILITATOR, KIDS KONNECTED, NICOLE BAER.
A FACILITATOR, KIDS KONNECTED, NICOLE BAER. >> FIVE ALL THE WAY UP TO 18.
NICOLE BAER. >> FIVE ALL THE WAY UP TO 18. >>SHE IS WITH KIDS KONNECTED.
>> FIVE ALL THE WAY UP TO 18. >>SHE IS WITH KIDS KONNECTED. SEATED ON MY LEFT TO YOU ARE
>>SHE IS WITH KIDS KONNECTED. SEATED ON MY LEFT TO YOU ARE RIGHT IS DR. SACHDEV THOMAS WHO
SEATED ON MY LEFT TO YOU ARE RIGHT IS DR. SACHDEV THOMAS WHO IS AN ONCOLOGIST WITH ONCOLOGY
RIGHT IS DR. SACHDEV THOMAS WHO IS AN ONCOLOGIST WITH ONCOLOGY HEMATOLOGY GI HEMATOLOGY
IS AN ONCOLOGIST WITH ONCOLOGY HEMATOLOGY GI HEMATOLOGY ASSOCIATES.
HEMATOLOGY GI HEMATOLOGY ASSOCIATES. GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
ASSOCIATES. GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. >>GOOD TO BE HERE.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. >>GOOD TO BE HERE. >>LAVERNE O'SHEA, CANCER
>>GOOD TO BE HERE. >>LAVERNE O'SHEA, CANCER SURVIVOR.
>>LAVERNE O'SHEA, CANCER SURVIVOR. THE DAY YOU ARE DTIONDED, YOU
SURVIVOR. THE DAY YOU ARE DTIONDED, YOU ARE A CANCER SURVIVOR BEGINNING
THE DAY YOU ARE DTIONDED, YOU ARE A CANCER SURVIVOR BEGINNING AT THAT POINT.
ARE A CANCER SURVIVOR BEGINNING AT THAT POINT. YOU ARE ABREAST CANCER SURVIVOR.
AT THAT POINT. YOU ARE ABREAST CANCER SURVIVOR. >>CORRECT.
YOU ARE ABREAST CANCER SURVIVOR. >>CORRECT. >>YOUR DAUGHTER IS HERE.
>>CORRECT. >>YOUR DAUGHTER IS HERE. ROSEMARY, THANK YOU FOR BEING
>>YOUR DAUGHTER IS HERE. ROSEMARY, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
ROSEMARY, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. ROSEMARY IS HERE BECAUSE SHE
WITH US. ROSEMARY IS HERE BECAUSE SHE PARTICIPATES IN KIDS KONNECTED.
ROSEMARY IS HERE BECAUSE SHE PARTICIPATES IN KIDS KONNECTED. WE WILL FIND OUT WHAT SOME OF
PARTICIPATES IN KIDS KONNECTED. WE WILL FIND OUT WHAT SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS WERE, AND HOW KIDS
WE WILL FIND OUT WHAT SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS WERE, AND HOW KIDS KONNECTED HELPED YOU TO ADDRESS
YOUR CONCERNS WERE, AND HOW KIDS KONNECTED HELPED YOU TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
KONNECTED HELPED YOU TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS. LETS'S START WITH DR. THOMAS
THOSE CONCERNS. LETS'S START WITH DR. THOMAS FIRST.
LETS'S START WITH DR. THOMAS FIRST. WE HEAR A DIAGNOSIS OF CAN SERB
FIRST. WE HEAR A DIAGNOSIS OF CAN SERB AND EVERYBODY THINKS THEY KNOW
WE HEAR A DIAGNOSIS OF CAN SERB AND EVERYBODY THINKS THEY KNOW WHAT CANCER IS.
AND EVERYBODY THINKS THEY KNOW WHAT CANCER IS. BUT WHAT IS CANCER?
WHAT CANCER IS. BUT WHAT IS CANCER? >> WELL, ALL OF US ARE MADE OF
BUT WHAT IS CANCER? >> WELL, ALL OF US ARE MADE OF TISSUES AND CELLS.
>> WELL, ALL OF US ARE MADE OF TISSUES AND CELLS. UNDER NORMAL DEVELOPMENT, ALL
TISSUES AND CELLS. UNDER NORMAL DEVELOPMENT, ALL THE TISSUES AND CELLS ARE
UNDER NORMAL DEVELOPMENT, ALL THE TISSUES AND CELLS ARE SUPPOSED TO BEHAVE IN A
THE TISSUES AND CELLS ARE SUPPOSED TO BEHAVE IN A COORDINATED FASHION, THEY ARE
SUPPOSED TO BEHAVE IN A COORDINATED FASHION, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO GROW IN A CERTAIN
COORDINATED FASHION, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO GROW IN A CERTAIN SIZE, DIVIDE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF
SUPPOSED TO GROW IN A CERTAIN SIZE, DIVIDE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TIMES AND THEN STOP.
SIZE, DIVIDE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TIMES AND THEN STOP. FROM THEN ON, EVERYTHING IS
TIMES AND THEN STOP. FROM THEN ON, EVERYTHING IS REGULATED BY PROTEINS AND
FROM THEN ON, EVERYTHING IS REGULATED BY PROTEINS AND CELLULAR IMPACT RATE.
REGULATED BY PROTEINS AND CELLULAR IMPACT RATE. CANCER IS PART OF PA PROCESS.
CELLULAR IMPACT RATE. CANCER IS PART OF PA PROCESS. CANCER THAT LOSES THE ABILITY TO
CANCER IS PART OF PA PROCESS. CANCER THAT LOSES THE ABILITY TO CONTROL ITSELF AND BECOMES
CANCER THAT LOSES THE ABILITY TO CONTROL ITSELF AND BECOMES INDEPENDENT OF THE NORMAL
CONTROL ITSELF AND BECOMES INDEPENDENT OF THE NORMAL MECHANISMS OF CONTROL AROUND THE
INDEPENDENT OF THE NORMAL MECHANISMS OF CONTROL AROUND THE TISSUE AND THEN START TO GROW IN
MECHANISMS OF CONTROL AROUND THE TISSUE AND THEN START TO GROW IN OTHER TISSUES WHERE IT IS NOT
TISSUE AND THEN START TO GROW IN OTHER TISSUES WHERE IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, AND IN THE
OTHER TISSUES WHERE IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, AND IN THE PROCESS OF SPREAD EITHER THROUGH
SUPPOSED TO BE, AND IN THE PROCESS OF SPREAD EITHER THROUGH THE BLOOD SYSTEM OR THE
PROCESS OF SPREAD EITHER THROUGH THE BLOOD SYSTEM OR THE LYMPHATIC SYSTEM.
THE BLOOD SYSTEM OR THE LYMPHATIC SYSTEM. THE PROBLEM WITH CANCER IS
LYMPHATIC SYSTEM. THE PROBLEM WITH CANCER IS TISSUE THAT GO BEYOND THEIR
THE PROBLEM WITH CANCER IS TISSUE THAT GO BEYOND THEIR BOUNDARIES IN TERMS OF CONTROL
TISSUE THAT GO BEYOND THEIR BOUNDARIES IN TERMS OF CONTROL MECHANISMS AND START TO AFFECT
BOUNDARIES IN TERMS OF CONTROL MECHANISMS AND START TO AFFECT OTHER OTHER GANCE AND CAUSE
MECHANISMS AND START TO AFFECT OTHER OTHER GANCE AND CAUSE SYMPTOMS.
OTHER OTHER GANCE AND CAUSE SYMPTOMS. THAT IS THE MECHANISM OF CANCER
SYMPTOMS. THAT IS THE MECHANISM OF CANCER AND THE DISEASE.
THAT IS THE MECHANISM OF CANCER AND THE DISEASE. REGARDLESS OF KIND OF CAN SERB
AND THE DISEASE. REGARDLESS OF KIND OF CAN SERB THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME BASIC
REGARDLESS OF KIND OF CAN SERB THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME BASIC CHARACTERISTICS.
THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME BASIC CHARACTERISTICS. >>SAME BASIC CHARACTER, AT THAT
CHARACTERISTICS. >>SAME BASIC CHARACTER, AT THAT MAKES IT DIFFERENTIATED NORMAL
>>SAME BASIC CHARACTER, AT THAT MAKES IT DIFFERENTIATED NORMAL TISSUE.
MAKES IT DIFFERENTIATED NORMAL TISSUE. >>LE' TURN TO LAVERNE, ABREAST
TISSUE. >>LE' TURN TO LAVERNE, ABREAST CANCER SURVIVOR.
>>LE' TURN TO LAVERNE, ABREAST CANCER SURVIVOR. LAVERNE, WHEN YOU WERE FIRST
CANCER SURVIVOR. LAVERNE, WHEN YOU WERE FIRST DIAGNOSED, WHEN WAS THAT AND
LAVERNE, WHEN YOU WERE FIRST DIAGNOSED, WHEN WAS THAT AND WHAT WAS YOUR INITIAL RESPONSE?
DIAGNOSED, WHEN WAS THAT AND WHAT WAS YOUR INITIAL RESPONSE? >> MY INITIAL RESPONSE WAS I
WHAT WAS YOUR INITIAL RESPONSE? >> MY INITIAL RESPONSE WAS I WASN'T HEARING WHAT I WAS
>> MY INITIAL RESPONSE WAS I WASN'T HEARING WHAT I WAS HEARING! (LAUGHING).
WASN'T HEARING WHAT I WAS HEARING! (LAUGHING). >>DENIAL?
HEARING! (LAUGHING). >>DENIAL? >> YES, I COULDN'T -- ALL THESE
>>DENIAL? >> YES, I COULDN'T -- ALL THESE PEOPLE CAME WALKING INTO THE
>> YES, I COULDN'T -- ALL THESE PEOPLE CAME WALKING INTO THE ROOM, AND I HAD BEEN SITTING
PEOPLE CAME WALKING INTO THE ROOM, AND I HAD BEEN SITTING THERE WAITING.
ROOM, AND I HAD BEEN SITTING THERE WAITING. I AM THINKING, "OKAY, WHY IS
THERE WAITING. I AM THINKING, "OKAY, WHY IS THIS TAKING SO LONG."
I AM THINKING, "OKAY, WHY IS THIS TAKING SO LONG." I GOT TO MOVE ON.
THIS TAKING SO LONG." I GOT TO MOVE ON. I AM LATE.
I GOT TO MOVE ON. I AM LATE. I AM BUSY.
I AM LATE. I AM BUSY. HERE COME THE DOCTORS AND NURSES
I AM BUSY. HERE COME THE DOCTORS AND NURSES AND WHATNOT.
HERE COME THE DOCTORS AND NURSES AND WHATNOT. I COULDN'T EVEN TELL YOU WHAT
AND WHATNOT. I COULDN'T EVEN TELL YOU WHAT THEY SAID BECAUSE I DON'T
I COULDN'T EVEN TELL YOU WHAT THEY SAID BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER.
THEY SAID BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER. REMEMBER.
REMEMBER. REMEMBER. >>WHEN?
REMEMBER. >>WHEN? >> OCTOBER OF '06.
>>WHEN? >> OCTOBER OF '06. >>A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.
>> OCTOBER OF '06. >>A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO. YES.
>>A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO. YES. IS THAT TYPICAL DEBRA?
YES. IS THAT TYPICAL DEBRA? >> TO HAVE THAT DEER IN THE
IS THAT TYPICAL DEBRA? >> TO HAVE THAT DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS RESPONSE.
>> TO HAVE THAT DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS RESPONSE. YES.
HEADLIGHTS RESPONSE. YES. I THINK IT WOULD BE UNUSUAL
YES. I THINK IT WOULD BE UNUSUAL PERSON THAT WOULD SAY "OH,
I THINK IT WOULD BE UNUSUAL PERSON THAT WOULD SAY "OH, OKAY."
PERSON THAT WOULD SAY "OH, OKAY." >>NO, I JUST BLANKED OUT.
OKAY." >>NO, I JUST BLANKED OUT. I WAS LIKE I AM NOT HEARING
>>NO, I JUST BLANKED OUT. I WAS LIKE I AM NOT HEARING THIS.
I WAS LIKE I AM NOT HEARING THIS. THIS ISN'T RIGHT.
THIS. THIS ISN'T RIGHT. >> DO YOU FIND YOURSELF HAVING
THIS ISN'T RIGHT. >> DO YOU FIND YOURSELF HAVING TO REPEAT YOURSELF MANY TIMES
>> DO YOU FIND YOURSELF HAVING TO REPEAT YOURSELF MANY TIMES OVER BECAUSE OF THAT TYPE OF
TO REPEAT YOURSELF MANY TIMES OVER BECAUSE OF THAT TYPE OF REACTION.
OVER BECAUSE OF THAT TYPE OF REACTION. >>IF I WAS IN THE SAME WATION, I
REACTION. >>IF I WAS IN THE SAME WATION, I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME
>>IF I WAS IN THE SAME WATION, I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME SITUATION.
WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME SITUATION. ON THOUGH I AM A TRAINED
SITUATION. ON THOUGH I AM A TRAINED PHYSICIAN.
ON THOUGH I AM A TRAINED PHYSICIAN. IT IS OVERWHELMING IN THE
PHYSICIAN. IT IS OVERWHELMING IN THE BEGINNING JUST TO HEAR THAT
IT IS OVERWHELMING IN THE BEGINNING JUST TO HEAR THAT DIAGNOSIS, AND, YEAH, A POINT IT
BEGINNING JUST TO HEAR THAT DIAGNOSIS, AND, YEAH, A POINT IT REITERATE WHAT I SAID BEFORE.
DIAGNOSIS, AND, YEAH, A POINT IT REITERATE WHAT I SAID BEFORE. THE FIRST MEETING I ALWAYS
REITERATE WHAT I SAID BEFORE. THE FIRST MEETING I ALWAYS CONCLUDE BY SAYING, I WILL GO
THE FIRST MEETING I ALWAYS CONCLUDE BY SAYING, I WILL GO OVER THIS AGAIN.
CONCLUDE BY SAYING, I WILL GO OVER THIS AGAIN. YOU ARE GOING TO MISS SOMETHING.
OVER THIS AGAIN. YOU ARE GOING TO MISS SOMETHING. IF YOU DIDN'T HEAR IT NOW, YOU
YOU ARE GOING TO MISS SOMETHING. IF YOU DIDN'T HEAR IT NOW, YOU WILL PROBABLY HEAR IT AGAIN.
IF YOU DIDN'T HEAR IT NOW, YOU WILL PROBABLY HEAR IT AGAIN. >>YOU CAN HANDLE EXPLAINING WHAT
WILL PROBABLY HEAR IT AGAIN. >>YOU CAN HANDLE EXPLAINING WHAT THE CANCER IS, WHAT THE REGIMENT
>>YOU CAN HANDLE EXPLAINING WHAT THE CANCER IS, WHAT THE REGIMENT WILL BE FOR TREATMENT, BUT DO
THE CANCER IS, WHAT THE REGIMENT WILL BE FOR TREATMENT, BUT DO YOU ALSO PARTICIPATE IN
WILL BE FOR TREATMENT, BUT DO YOU ALSO PARTICIPATE IN SUGGESTING THAT THEY SEEK
YOU ALSO PARTICIPATE IN SUGGESTING THAT THEY SEEK SUPPORT AND HOW IMPORTANT IS IT
SUGGESTING THAT THEY SEEK SUPPORT AND HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO HAVE SUPPORT?
SUPPORT AND HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO HAVE SUPPORT? >> VERY IMPORTANT.
TO HAVE SUPPORT? >> VERY IMPORTANT. PATIENTS WHO ACTUALLY HAVE
>> VERY IMPORTANT. PATIENTS WHO ACTUALLY HAVE MECHANISMS, OTHER FAMILY OR
PATIENTS WHO ACTUALLY HAVE MECHANISMS, OTHER FAMILY OR ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY
MECHANISMS, OTHER FAMILY OR ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY CERTAINLY DO FAR BETTER THAN
ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY CERTAINLY DO FAR BETTER THAN SOMEONE WHO DIALS TO DEAL WITH
CERTAINLY DO FAR BETTER THAN SOMEONE WHO DIALS TO DEAL WITH HIMSELF OR HERSELF.
SOMEONE WHO DIALS TO DEAL WITH HIMSELF OR HERSELF. NONE OF US COULD DO EVERYTHING
HIMSELF OR HERSELF. NONE OF US COULD DO EVERYTHING ON MY OWN.
NONE OF US COULD DO EVERYTHING ON MY OWN. I COULDN'T FIX MY CAR.
ON MY OWN. I COULDN'T FIX MY CAR. I NEED SOMEBODY TO FIX THE CAR.
I COULDN'T FIX MY CAR. I NEED SOMEBODY TO FIX THE CAR. AND MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN SPECIES
I NEED SOMEBODY TO FIX THE CAR. AND MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN SPECIES ARE SOCIAL ANIMALS.
AND MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN SPECIES ARE SOCIAL ANIMALS. THEY ARE PROGRAMMED THAT WAY,
ARE SOCIAL ANIMALS. THEY ARE PROGRAMMED THAT WAY, AND DERRIVE STRENGTH FROM
THEY ARE PROGRAMMED THAT WAY, AND DERRIVE STRENGTH FROM RELATIONSHIPS FROM FRIENDS AND
AND DERRIVE STRENGTH FROM RELATIONSHIPS FROM FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES.
RELATIONSHIPS FROM FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THAT
COLLEAGUES. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THAT RESPECT BETWEEN A CANCER PATIENT
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THAT RESPECT BETWEEN A CANCER PATIENT AND ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL.
RESPECT BETWEEN A CANCER PATIENT AND ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL. >>WHEN YOU MEET WITH A CANCER
AND ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL. >>WHEN YOU MEET WITH A CANCER SURVIVOR, HOW DO YOU -- MY
>>WHEN YOU MEET WITH A CANCER SURVIVOR, HOW DO YOU -- MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT PEOPLE ARE
SURVIVOR, HOW DO YOU -- MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT
ASSUMPTION IS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
GOING TO SAY, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO."
TO SAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO." HOW DO YOU DRAW OUT AND GIVE
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO." HOW DO YOU DRAW OUT AND GIVE THEM GUIDANCE TO OH TO DO THE
HOW DO YOU DRAW OUT AND GIVE THEM GUIDANCE TO OH TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS AND SEEK SUPPORT?
THEM GUIDANCE TO OH TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS AND SEEK SUPPORT? >> EVERY SITUATION IS VERY
RIGHT THINGS AND SEEK SUPPORT? >> EVERY SITUATION IS VERY UNIQUE.
>> EVERY SITUATION IS VERY UNIQUE. SOMETIMES I GET INVOLVED WHEN
UNIQUE. SOMETIMES I GET INVOLVED WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THE DOCTOR'S
SOMETIMES I GET INVOLVED WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE AND HAVING A MELT DOWN.
PEOPLE ARE IN THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE AND HAVING A MELT DOWN. IN A CRISIS SITUATION, I FIRST
OFFICE AND HAVING A MELT DOWN. IN A CRISIS SITUATION, I FIRST GET THEM TO BREATHE BECAUSE THEY
IN A CRISIS SITUATION, I FIRST GET THEM TO BREATHE BECAUSE THEY OFTEN ARE FOR GETTING THAT VERY
GET THEM TO BREATHE BECAUSE THEY OFTEN ARE FOR GETTING THAT VERY BASIC THING, JUST SLOW DOWN
OFTEN ARE FOR GETTING THAT VERY BASIC THING, JUST SLOW DOWN THEIR BREATHING, FOCUS ON BEING
BASIC THING, JUST SLOW DOWN THEIR BREATHING, FOCUS ON BEING IN THE MOMENT, TO NOT WORRY
THEIR BREATHING, FOCUS ON BEING IN THE MOMENT, TO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE FEARS AND THE WHAT
IN THE MOMENT, TO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE FEARS AND THE WHAT IF'S OF THE FUTURE, JUST STAY IN
ABOUT THE FEARS AND THE WHAT IF'S OF THE FUTURE, JUST STAY IN THIS MOMENT.
IF'S OF THE FUTURE, JUST STAY IN THIS MOMENT. BUT IF SOMEONE -- SOMETIMES
THIS MOMENT. BUT IF SOMEONE -- SOMETIMES SOMEBODY WILL CALL ME OUT OF THE
BUT IF SOMEONE -- SOMETIMES SOMEBODY WILL CALL ME OUT OF THE BLUE, THEIR DOCTOR DIDN'T REFER
SOMEBODY WILL CALL ME OUT OF THE BLUE, THEIR DOCTOR DIDN'T REFER THEM.
BLUE, THEIR DOCTOR DIDN'T REFER THEM. THEY JUST SAW SOMETHING IN THE
THEM. THEY JUST SAW SOMETHING IN THE NEWSPAPER OR GOOGLED CANCER AND
THEY JUST SAW SOMETHING IN THE NEWSPAPER OR GOOGLED CANCER AND FOUND OUR ORGANIZATION.
NEWSPAPER OR GOOGLED CANCER AND FOUND OUR ORGANIZATION. IF THEY CALL ME OUT OF THE BLUE,
FOUND OUR ORGANIZATION. IF THEY CALL ME OUT OF THE BLUE, AND THEY COME IN AND SIT DOWN,
IF THEY CALL ME OUT OF THE BLUE, AND THEY COME IN AND SIT DOWN, AND ARE VERY CALM, WE MAY HAVE A
AND THEY COME IN AND SIT DOWN, AND ARE VERY CALM, WE MAY HAVE A CONVERSATION JUST ABOUT HOW MANY
AND ARE VERY CALM, WE MAY HAVE A CONVERSATION JUST ABOUT HOW MANY CHILDREN THEY HAVE, JUST TO
CONVERSATION JUST ABOUT HOW MANY CHILDREN THEY HAVE, JUST TO NORMALIZE THE RELATIONSHIP AND
CHILDREN THEY HAVE, JUST TO NORMALIZE THE RELATIONSHIP AND BUILD TRUST IN OUR RELATIONSHIP.
NORMALIZE THE RELATIONSHIP AND BUILD TRUST IN OUR RELATIONSHIP. BUT USUALLY THEY WANT TO TELL
BUILD TRUST IN OUR RELATIONSHIP. BUT USUALLY THEY WANT TO TELL THE STORY.
BUT USUALLY THEY WANT TO TELL THE STORY. WHEN WAS I DIAGNOSIS?
THE STORY. WHEN WAS I DIAGNOSIS? WHAT DID THE DOCTOR SAY I NEEDED
WHEN WAS I DIAGNOSIS? WHAT DID THE DOCTOR SAY I NEEDED TO DO ABOUT THAT?
WHAT DID THE DOCTOR SAY I NEEDED TO DO ABOUT THAT? WHAT IS IN STORE FOR ME IN THE
TO DO ABOUT THAT? WHAT IS IN STORE FOR ME IN THE NEAR FUTURE?
WHAT IS IN STORE FOR ME IN THE NEAR FUTURE? AND ALWAYS ON THEIR MIND IS AM I
NEAR FUTURE? AND ALWAYS ON THEIR MIND IS AM I GOING TO DIE?
AND ALWAYS ON THEIR MIND IS AM I GOING TO DIE? TRYING TO NORMALIZE THAT FROM
GOING TO DIE? TRYING TO NORMALIZE THAT FROM THE MOMENT THAT WE ARE BORN, OUR
TRYING TO NORMALIZE THAT FROM THE MOMENT THAT WE ARE BORN, OUR HEALTH IS TEMPORARY.
THE MOMENT THAT WE ARE BORN, OUR HEALTH IS TEMPORARY. THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE GIVEN.
HEALTH IS TEMPORARY. THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE GIVEN. AND TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN FOCUS
THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE GIVEN. AND TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN FOCUS ON THE DYING PART OR YOU CAN
AND TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN FOCUS ON THE DYING PART OR YOU CAN FOCUS ON THE LIVING PART.
ON THE DYING PART OR YOU CAN FOCUS ON THE LIVING PART. AND COMING TO TERMS WITH HOW
FOCUS ON THE LIVING PART. AND COMING TO TERMS WITH HOW THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE LIFE,
AND COMING TO TERMS WITH HOW THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE LIFE, BUT JUST TRYING TO NORMALIZE THE
THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE LIFE, BUT JUST TRYING TO NORMALIZE THE SITUATION.
BUT JUST TRYING TO NORMALIZE THE SITUATION. >> YOUR LIFE CHANGED LAVERNE?
SITUATION. >> YOUR LIFE CHANGED LAVERNE? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
>> YOUR LIFE CHANGED LAVERNE? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. YES.
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY. YES. >>HOW EASILY DID YOU MAKE THAT
YES. >>HOW EASILY DID YOU MAKE THAT TRANSITION AND WHAT KINDS OF
>>HOW EASILY DID YOU MAKE THAT TRANSITION AND WHAT KINDS OF CHANGES DID YOU SEE IN YOURSELF?
TRANSITION AND WHAT KINDS OF CHANGES DID YOU SEE IN YOURSELF? >> IT WAS KIND OF HARD BECAUSE I
CHANGES DID YOU SEE IN YOURSELF? >> IT WAS KIND OF HARD BECAUSE I HAD -- I WENT THROUGH
>> IT WAS KIND OF HARD BECAUSE I HAD -- I WENT THROUGH CHEMOTHERAPY FIRST BEFORE I HAD
HAD -- I WENT THROUGH CHEMOTHERAPY FIRST BEFORE I HAD THE TUMOR REMOVED.
CHEMOTHERAPY FIRST BEFORE I HAD THE TUMOR REMOVED. SO WE KIND OF DID IT BACKWARDS.
THE TUMOR REMOVED. SO WE KIND OF DID IT BACKWARDS. IN THAT PROCESS OF THE WHOLE
SO WE KIND OF DID IT BACKWARDS. IN THAT PROCESS OF THE WHOLE CHEMOTHERAPY THING, I WAS SICK.
IN THAT PROCESS OF THE WHOLE CHEMOTHERAPY THING, I WAS SICK. SO I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO
CHEMOTHERAPY THING, I WAS SICK. SO I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO REALLY DWELL ON IT OR THINK
SO I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO REALLY DWELL ON IT OR THINK ABOUT IT.
REALLY DWELL ON IT OR THINK ABOUT IT. BUT ONCE I HAD THE SURGERY AND
ABOUT IT. BUT ONCE I HAD THE SURGERY AND THE CANCER WAS REMOVED, THEN --
BUT ONCE I HAD THE SURGERY AND THE CANCER WAS REMOVED, THEN -- AND I WAS MORE MOBILE, THEN I
THE CANCER WAS REMOVED, THEN -- AND I WAS MORE MOBILE, THEN I FOUND MYSELF STARTING TO BE
AND I WAS MORE MOBILE, THEN I FOUND MYSELF STARTING TO BE STRONGER AND ABLE TO -- AND I
FOUND MYSELF STARTING TO BE STRONGER AND ABLE TO -- AND I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT DYING
STRONGER AND ABLE TO -- AND I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT DYING FROM CANCER.
NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT DYING FROM CANCER. THAT NEVER ENTERED MY MIND
FROM CANCER. THAT NEVER ENTERED MY MIND BECAUSE I KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO
THAT NEVER ENTERED MY MIND BECAUSE I KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO DIE FROM CANCER. I JUST KNEW
BECAUSE I KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO DIE FROM CANCER. I JUST KNEW IT.
DIE FROM CANCER. I JUST KNEW IT. I MEAN I COULD LATER ON, BUT NOT
IT. I MEAN I COULD LATER ON, BUT NOT RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN I COULD LATER ON, BUT NOT RIGHT NOW. SO OKAY, NOW I AM HAVING THE
RIGHT NOW. SO OKAY, NOW I AM HAVING THE CHEMO BRAIN PROBLEM! (LAUGHING).
SO OKAY, NOW I AM HAVING THE CHEMO BRAIN PROBLEM! (LAUGHING). LET'S TALK ABOUT CHEMO BRAIN,
CHEMO BRAIN PROBLEM! (LAUGHING). LET'S TALK ABOUT CHEMO BRAIN, DOCTOR.
LET'S TALK ABOUT CHEMO BRAIN, DOCTOR. CHEMO BRAIN, I AM NOT FAMILIAR
DOCTOR. CHEMO BRAIN, I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM.
CHEMO BRAIN, I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM. IT IS A RELATIVELY NEW
WITH THE TERM. IT IS A RELATIVELY NEW TERMINOLOGY, RELATIVE MEANING
IT IS A RELATIVELY NEW TERMINOLOGY, RELATIVE MEANING THE LAST FEW YEARS.
TERMINOLOGY, RELATIVE MEANING THE LAST FEW YEARS. A FEW YEARS AGO WE PROBABLY
THE LAST FEW YEARS. A FEW YEARS AGO WE PROBABLY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT
A FEW YEARS AGO WE PROBABLY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT PHENOMENON.
DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT PHENOMENON. AS A MATTER OF FACT WE WOULD GO
PHENOMENON. AS A MATTER OF FACT WE WOULD GO TO MEETINGS AND SOME PEOPLE
AS A MATTER OF FACT WE WOULD GO TO MEETINGS AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD BE SKEPTICAL SUCH AN
TO MEETINGS AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD BE SKEPTICAL SUCH AN ENTITY EXISTED.
WOULD BE SKEPTICAL SUCH AN ENTITY EXISTED. THERE ARE DEFINITE NEURO CHANGES
ENTITY EXISTED. THERE ARE DEFINITE NEURO CHANGES MADE AFTER CHEMOTHERAPY.
THERE ARE DEFINITE NEURO CHANGES MADE AFTER CHEMOTHERAPY. WE STARTED RECOGNIZES THESE IN
MADE AFTER CHEMOTHERAPY. WE STARTED RECOGNIZES THESE IN CHILDHOOD SURVIVORS, HODGKIN'S
WE STARTED RECOGNIZES THESE IN CHILDHOOD SURVIVORS, HODGKIN'S DISEASE, AND HAVE SEEN SOME OF
CHILDHOOD SURVIVORS, HODGKIN'S DISEASE, AND HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE EFFECTS, THOSE WHO HAVE
DISEASE, AND HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE EFFECTS, THOSE WHO HAVE SURVIVED IN THE 20'S, 30'S, AND
THE EFFECTS, THOSE WHO HAVE SURVIVED IN THE 20'S, 30'S, AND 40'S, AND THAT'S WHERE WE START
SURVIVED IN THE 20'S, 30'S, AND 40'S, AND THAT'S WHERE WE START TO UNDER STAND IT MORE.
40'S, AND THAT'S WHERE WE START TO UNDER STAND IT MORE. WE DON'T KNOW EXACT LIT
TO UNDER STAND IT MORE. WE DON'T KNOW EXACT LIT MECHANISM BEHIND IT OR WHAT IS
WE DON'T KNOW EXACT LIT MECHANISM BEHIND IT OR WHAT IS THE PHYSIOLOGY THAT LEADS TO IT.
MECHANISM BEHIND IT OR WHAT IS THE PHYSIOLOGY THAT LEADS TO IT. THERE ARE SOME SIMILARITIES TO
THE PHYSIOLOGY THAT LEADS TO IT. THERE ARE SOME SIMILARITIES TO SOME OTHER NEUROLOGICAL
THERE ARE SOME SIMILARITIES TO SOME OTHER NEUROLOGICAL DISORDERS THAT OCCUR.
SOME OTHER NEUROLOGICAL DISORDERS THAT OCCUR. FOR EXAMPLE, RUMORS, BUT THERE
DISORDERS THAT OCCUR. FOR EXAMPLE, RUMORS, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENCES, TOO, AGE, TIME
FOR EXAMPLE, RUMORS, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENCES, TOO, AGE, TIME PERIOD WHICH IT OCCURS, IT IS
ARE DIFFERENCES, TOO, AGE, TIME PERIOD WHICH IT OCCURS, IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS MORE WORK
PERIOD WHICH IT OCCURS, IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS MORE WORK AND RESEARCH.
SOMETHING THAT NEEDS MORE WORK AND RESEARCH. BUT IT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE
AND RESEARCH. BUT IT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ONCOLOGY PEOPLE IS CONVINCED IT
BUT IT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ONCOLOGY PEOPLE IS CONVINCED IT IS FOR REAL.
ONCOLOGY PEOPLE IS CONVINCED IT IS FOR REAL. IT IS ESSENTIALLY MY SYNAPSIS
IS FOR REAL. IT IS ESSENTIALLY MY SYNAPSIS DIDN'T QUICK QUITE RIGHT AT THAT
IT IS ESSENTIALLY MY SYNAPSIS DIDN'T QUICK QUITE RIGHT AT THAT MOMENT.
DIDN'T QUICK QUITE RIGHT AT THAT MOMENT. >>RIGHT.
MOMENT. >>RIGHT. >>THE FACT YOU ARE MUCH MORE
>>RIGHT. >>THE FACT YOU ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO SURVIVE CANCER TODAY
>>THE FACT YOU ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO SURVIVE CANCER TODAY THAN YOU WERE FIVE YEARS AGO.
LIKELY TO SURVIVE CANCER TODAY THAN YOU WERE FIVE YEARS AGO. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS FROM NOW
THAN YOU WERE FIVE YEARS AGO. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS FROM NOW ON, SURVIVAL FROM CANCER IS
NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS FROM NOW ON, SURVIVAL FROM CANCER IS LIKELY TO GO UP OVERTIME JUST
ON, SURVIVAL FROM CANCER IS LIKELY TO GO UP OVERTIME JUST BECAUSE OF PROGRESS BEING MADE
LIKELY TO GO UP OVERTIME JUST BECAUSE OF PROGRESS BEING MADE GENERALLY IN MEDICINE OR EVEN IN
BECAUSE OF PROGRESS BEING MADE GENERALLY IN MEDICINE OR EVEN IN CANCER MEDICINE.
GENERALLY IN MEDICINE OR EVEN IN CANCER MEDICINE. SURVIVORS WHO ACTUALLY NOW HAVE
CANCER MEDICINE. SURVIVORS WHO ACTUALLY NOW HAVE SIDE EFFECTS THAT ARE CALLED
SURVIVORS WHO ACTUALLY NOW HAVE SIDE EFFECTS THAT ARE CALLED DELAYED SIDE EFFECTS, NAUSEA,
SIDE EFFECTS THAT ARE CALLED DELAYED SIDE EFFECTS, NAUSEA, VOMITING, HAIR LOSS, EVERYBODY
DELAYED SIDE EFFECTS, NAUSEA, VOMITING, HAIR LOSS, EVERYBODY IS WEAR OF THIS.
VOMITING, HAIR LOSS, EVERYBODY IS WEAR OF THIS. THIS IS DELAYED SIDE EFFECTS,
IS WEAR OF THIS. THIS IS DELAYED SIDE EFFECTS, CHEMO BRAIN SHE REFERRED TO.
THIS IS DELAYED SIDE EFFECTS, CHEMO BRAIN SHE REFERRED TO. PROBABLY SEE IT MORE OFTEN, AND
CHEMO BRAIN SHE REFERRED TO. PROBABLY SEE IT MORE OFTEN, AND NEED TO STUDY IT AND DEAL WITH
PROBABLY SEE IT MORE OFTEN, AND NEED TO STUDY IT AND DEAL WITH IT.
NEED TO STUDY IT AND DEAL WITH IT. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
IT. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAVERNE'S ISSUES OF DEALING WITH
WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAVERNE'S ISSUES OF DEALING WITH THE CANCER, BUT HER DAUGHTER IS
LAVERNE'S ISSUES OF DEALING WITH THE CANCER, BUT HER DAUGHTER IS HERE.
THE CANCER, BUT HER DAUGHTER IS HERE. HER DAUGHTER HAD A LOT OF
HERE. HER DAUGHTER HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
HER DAUGHTER HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS. SO I AM GOING TO KIND OF STEP
QUESTIONS. SO I AM GOING TO KIND OF STEP ASIDE.
SO I AM GOING TO KIND OF STEP ASIDE. I AM GOING TO LET NICOLE --
ASIDE. I AM GOING TO LET NICOLE -- BECAUSE NICOLE AND ROSEMARY KNOW
I AM GOING TO LET NICOLE -- BECAUSE NICOLE AND ROSEMARY KNOW EACH OTHER.
BECAUSE NICOLE AND ROSEMARY KNOW EACH OTHER. WHAT WERE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
EACH OTHER. WHAT WERE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU HAD WHEN YOU FOUND OUT YOUR
WHAT WERE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU HAD WHEN YOU FOUND OUT YOUR MOM HAD CANCER?
YOU HAD WHEN YOU FOUND OUT YOUR MOM HAD CANCER? >> OH, ONE OF THEM WAS WHAT
MOM HAD CANCER? >> OH, ONE OF THEM WAS WHAT SHOULD I EAT WHEN I WAS AROUND
>> OH, ONE OF THEM WAS WHAT SHOULD I EAT WHEN I WAS AROUND HER.
SHOULD I EAT WHEN I WAS AROUND HER. AND NICOLE ANSWERED THAT
HER. AND NICOLE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION THAT JUST LIKE KEEP
AND NICOLE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION THAT JUST LIKE KEEP EATING WHATEVER YOU ARE EATING
QUESTION THAT JUST LIKE KEEP EATING WHATEVER YOU ARE EATING BECAUSE IT WON'T REALLY MAKE
EATING WHATEVER YOU ARE EATING BECAUSE IT WON'T REALLY MAKE YOUR MOM FEEL BAD.
BECAUSE IT WON'T REALLY MAKE YOUR MOM FEEL BAD. >> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WITH
YOUR MOM FEEL BAD. >> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WITH THE KIDS WE ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE
>> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WITH THE KIDS WE ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND IF THEY
THE KIDS WE ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, LIKE DEBRA SAID,
SURE THEY UNDERSTAND IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, LIKE DEBRA SAID, WE WANT TO BUILD THE DRUFT WITH
HAVE QUESTIONS, LIKE DEBRA SAID, WE WANT TO BUILD THE DRUFT WITH THEM SO THEY ARE WELCOME AND
WE WANT TO BUILD THE DRUFT WITH THEM SO THEY ARE WELCOME AND BRIT QUESTIONS TO US.
THEM SO THEY ARE WELCOME AND BRIT QUESTIONS TO US. SOME OF THEM PUT A LOT OF
BRIT QUESTIONS TO US. SOME OF THEM PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THEIR QUESTIONS AND
SOME OF THEM PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THEIR QUESTIONS AND HAVE DEEP QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT DO
THOUGHT INTO THEIR QUESTIONS AND HAVE DEEP QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT DO I NEED TO EAT.
HAVE DEEP QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT DO I NEED TO EAT. SOME WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY GOT
I NEED TO EAT. SOME WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY GOT CANCER AND WHY THEIR PARENT IS
SOME WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY GOT CANCER AND WHY THEIR PARENT IS GOING THROUGH THIS.
CANCER AND WHY THEIR PARENT IS GOING THROUGH THIS. SOME ASK THE QUESTION, ARE THEY
GOING THROUGH THIS. SOME ASK THE QUESTION, ARE THEY GOING TO DYING.
SOME ASK THE QUESTION, ARE THEY GOING TO DYING. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE
GOING TO DYING. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. AS MUCH AS PEOPLE DON'T THINK
THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. AS MUCH AS PEOPLE DON'T THINK THEY PICK UP ON THINGS, CHILDREN
AS MUCH AS PEOPLE DON'T THINK THEY PICK UP ON THINGS, CHILDREN KNOW A LOT.
THEY PICK UP ON THINGS, CHILDREN KNOW A LOT. IT CAN COME OUT AT SCHOOL OR IT
KNOW A LOT. IT CAN COME OUT AT SCHOOL OR IT COULD COME OUT WITH THEIR
IT CAN COME OUT AT SCHOOL OR IT COULD COME OUT WITH THEIR FRIENDS.
COULD COME OUT WITH THEIR FRIENDS. IT IS JUST A BIG FEAR THAT THEY
FRIENDS. IT IS JUST A BIG FEAR THAT THEY HAVE, AND I THINK A THE LOVE
IT IS JUST A BIG FEAR THAT THEY HAVE, AND I THINK A THE LOVE TIMES THEY ARE AFRAID TO ASK
HAVE, AND I THINK A THE LOVE TIMES THEY ARE AFRAID TO ASK THEIR PARENT WHO HAS CANCER FOR
TIMES THEY ARE AFRAID TO ASK THEIR PARENT WHO HAS CANCER FOR FEAR THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE
THEIR PARENT WHO HAS CANCER FOR FEAR THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE UPSET OR THEY ARE GOING TO GET
FEAR THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE UPSET OR THEY ARE GOING TO GET SICK EVEN MORE IF THEY ARE
UPSET OR THEY ARE GOING TO GET SICK EVEN MORE IF THEY ARE WORRYING ABOUT THEM.
SICK EVEN MORE IF THEY ARE WORRYING ABOUT THEM. >>FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR
WORRYING ABOUT THEM. >>FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH KIDS KONNECTED, BRIEF
>>FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH KIDS KONNECTED, BRIEF DEFINITION.
WITH KIDS KONNECTED, BRIEF DEFINITION. >>KIDS KONNECTED IS A SUPPORT
DEFINITION. >>KIDS KONNECTED IS A SUPPORT GROUP TORE CHILDREN WHOSE
>>KIDS KONNECTED IS A SUPPORT GROUP TORE CHILDREN WHOSE PARENTS HAVE CANCER OR HAD
GROUP TORE CHILDREN WHOSE PARENTS HAVE CANCER OR HAD CANCER.
PARENTS HAVE CANCER OR HAD CANCER. LIKE ROSEMARY, HER MOM HAS
CANCER. LIKE ROSEMARY, HER MOM HAS CANCER AND IS SURVIVING.
LIKE ROSEMARY, HER MOM HAS CANCER AND IS SURVIVING. WE HAVE SOME FRIENDS AT KIDS
CANCER AND IS SURVIVING. WE HAVE SOME FRIENDS AT KIDS KONNECTED WHO HAVE LOST THEIR
WE HAVE SOME FRIENDS AT KIDS KONNECTED WHO HAVE LOST THEIR PARENTS TO CANCER. SO IT IS
KONNECTED WHO HAVE LOST THEIR PARENTS TO CANCER. SO IT IS KIND OF A SUPPORT GROUP THAT
PARENTS TO CANCER. SO IT IS KIND OF A SUPPORT GROUP THAT THEY CAN MEET WITH OTHER KIDS
KIND OF A SUPPORT GROUP THAT THEY CAN MEET WITH OTHER KIDS THEIR AGE. SO ONE CHANCE TO BE
THEY CAN MEET WITH OTHER KIDS THEIR AGE. SO ONE CHANCE TO BE WITH KIDS WHO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
THEIR AGE. SO ONE CHANCE TO BE WITH KIDS WHO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS TO HAVE A PARENT OR A
WITH KIDS WHO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS TO HAVE A PARENT OR A SPECIAL PERSON, A GRANDPARENT OR
IT IS TO HAVE A PARENT OR A SPECIAL PERSON, A GRANDPARENT OR A CAREGIVER WHO HAS HAD CANCER.
SPECIAL PERSON, A GRANDPARENT OR A CAREGIVER WHO HAS HAD CANCER. THEY GO TO SCHOOL WITH KIDS
A CAREGIVER WHO HAS HAD CANCER. THEY GO TO SCHOOL WITH KIDS EVERY DAY WHO HAVE PARENTS AND
THEY GO TO SCHOOL WITH KIDS EVERY DAY WHO HAVE PARENTS AND THEY ARE HEALTHY.
EVERY DAY WHO HAVE PARENTS AND THEY ARE HEALTHY. THEY CAN COME TO KIDS KONNECTED
THEY ARE HEALTHY. THEY CAN COME TO KIDS KONNECTED AND KNOW THAT THOSE KIDS KNOW
THEY CAN COME TO KIDS KONNECTED AND KNOW THAT THOSE KIDS KNOW HOW IT IS TO LIVE WITH CANCER.
AND KNOW THAT THOSE KIDS KNOW HOW IT IS TO LIVE WITH CANCER. >>WHAT KIND OF THINGS DO YOU DO
HOW IT IS TO LIVE WITH CANCER. >>WHAT KIND OF THINGS DO YOU DO AT KIDS KONNECTED?
>>WHAT KIND OF THINGS DO YOU DO AT KIDS KONNECTED? >> AT KIDS KONNECTED WE DO LIKE
AT KIDS KONNECTED? >> AT KIDS KONNECTED WE DO LIKE ACTIVITIES ABOUT CANCER AND JUST
>> AT KIDS KONNECTED WE DO LIKE ACTIVITIES ABOUT CANCER AND JUST PLAY GAMES AND HAVE FUN AND TALK
ACTIVITIES ABOUT CANCER AND JUST PLAY GAMES AND HAVE FUN AND TALK ABOUT OUR FEELINGS.
PLAY GAMES AND HAVE FUN AND TALK ABOUT OUR FEELINGS. >> SO IT IS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT
ABOUT OUR FEELINGS. >> SO IT IS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT CANCER?
>> SO IT IS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT CANCER? >> NO, IT IS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT
CANCER? >> NO, IT IS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT CANCER.
>> NO, IT IS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT CANCER. >>BUT SOMETIMES YOU SHARE THINGS
CANCER. >>BUT SOMETIMES YOU SHARE THINGS WITH SOME OTHER KIDS?
>>BUT SOMETIMES YOU SHARE THINGS WITH SOME OTHER KIDS? >> YES.
WITH SOME OTHER KIDS? >> YES. >>WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DO YOU
>> YES. >>WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DO YOU SHARE?
>>WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DO YOU SHARE? >> LIKE OUR FEELINGS AND, LIKE,
SHARE? >> LIKE OUR FEELINGS AND, LIKE, WHAT HAPPENED, LIKE ANYTHING
>> LIKE OUR FEELINGS AND, LIKE, WHAT HAPPENED, LIKE ANYTHING GOOD HAPPEN OR BAD HAPPEN
WHAT HAPPENED, LIKE ANYTHING GOOD HAPPEN OR BAD HAPPEN BETWEEN FROM THE LAST TIME TO
GOOD HAPPEN OR BAD HAPPEN BETWEEN FROM THE LAST TIME TO NOW.
BETWEEN FROM THE LAST TIME TO NOW. >>DOES THAT HELP YOU TO HEAR
NOW. >>DOES THAT HELP YOU TO HEAR FROM OTHER KIDS TALKING ABOUT
>>DOES THAT HELP YOU TO HEAR FROM OTHER KIDS TALKING ABOUT THAT.
FROM OTHER KIDS TALKING ABOUT THAT. >>YES.
THAT. >>YES. >>EVEN IF IT IS BAD NEWS.
>>YES. >>EVEN IF IT IS BAD NEWS. UH-HUH BECAUSE IT MAKES FEE FEEL
>>EVEN IF IT IS BAD NEWS. UH-HUH BECAUSE IT MAKES FEE FEEL KIND OF GOOD THEY ARE GETTING IT
UH-HUH BECAUSE IT MAKES FEE FEEL KIND OF GOOD THEY ARE GETTING IT OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE.
KIND OF GOOD THEY ARE GETTING IT OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE. >>AND IT HELPS YOU TO GET IT OUT
OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE. >>AND IT HELPS YOU TO GET IT OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE THIS.
>>AND IT HELPS YOU TO GET IT OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE THIS. >>YEAH.
TO OTHER PEOPLE THIS. >>YEAH. >>DO YOU TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT
>>YEAH. >>DO YOU TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS WITH YOUR TEN
>>DO YOU TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS WITH YOUR TEN YEAR OLD FRIENDS THAN YOU WOULD
KINDS OF THINGS WITH YOUR TEN YEAR OLD FRIENDS THAN YOU WOULD TALK ABOUT WITH YOUR MOTHER?
YEAR OLD FRIENDS THAN YOU WOULD TALK ABOUT WITH YOUR MOTHER? >> UM, SOMETIMES AND SOMETIMES
TALK ABOUT WITH YOUR MOTHER? >> UM, SOMETIMES AND SOMETIMES NOT REALLY.
>> UM, SOMETIMES AND SOMETIMES NOT REALLY. >>BUT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TELL
NOT REALLY. >>BUT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TELL YOUR MOM WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT
>>BUT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TELL YOUR MOM WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WITH THOSE KIDS?
YOUR MOM WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WITH THOSE KIDS? >> NO (LAUGHING).
WITH THOSE KIDS? >> NO (LAUGHING). >>I CAN'T ASK THAT QUESTION, CAN
>> NO (LAUGHING). >>I CAN'T ASK THAT QUESTION, CAN I?
>>I CAN'T ASK THAT QUESTION, CAN I? >> WE CERTAINLY WANT THEM TO
I? >> WE CERTAINLY WANT THEM TO KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO ASK US
>> WE CERTAINLY WANT THEM TO KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO ASK US SOMETHING, THAT THEY ARE AFRAID
KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO ASK US SOMETHING, THAT THEY ARE AFRAID TO ASK MOM OR AFRAID TO ASK DAD,
SOMETHING, THAT THEY ARE AFRAID TO ASK MOM OR AFRAID TO ASK DAD, THEY CAN TRUST US TO KNOW.
TO ASK MOM OR AFRAID TO ASK DAD, THEY CAN TRUST US TO KNOW. IF THEY DON'T WANT MOM OR DAD TO
THEY CAN TRUST US TO KNOW. IF THEY DON'T WANT MOM OR DAD TO KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY
IF THEY DON'T WANT MOM OR DAD TO KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY SHARE WITH US.
KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY SHARE WITH US. >>WITH DEBRA, AND WITH NICOLE,
SHARE WITH US. >>WITH DEBRA, AND WITH NICOLE, EITHER ADULTS OR CHILDREN, HOW
>>WITH DEBRA, AND WITH NICOLE, EITHER ADULTS OR CHILDREN, HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH -- A SUPPORT
EITHER ADULTS OR CHILDREN, HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH -- A SUPPORT GROUP ASK A POSITIVE THING, AND
DO YOU DEAL WITH -- A SUPPORT GROUP ASK A POSITIVE THING, AND THEN SOMEONE IN THE SUPPORT
GROUP ASK A POSITIVE THING, AND THEN SOMEONE IN THE SUPPORT GROUP OR A PARENT OF SOMEONE IN
THEN SOMEONE IN THE SUPPORT GROUP OR A PARENT OF SOMEONE IN KIDS KONNECTED PASSES AWAY
GROUP OR A PARENT OF SOMEONE IN KIDS KONNECTED PASSES AWAY BECAUSE OF CANCER.
KIDS KONNECTED PASSES AWAY BECAUSE OF CANCER. HOW DO YOU COPE WITH THAT?
BECAUSE OF CANCER. HOW DO YOU COPE WITH THAT? >> WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT OCCUR
HOW DO YOU COPE WITH THAT? >> WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT OCCUR JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
>> WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT OCCUR JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. ONE OF OUR LONG-TERM GROUP
JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. ONE OF OUR LONG-TERM GROUP MEMBERS DIED, AND AT TIME OF
ONE OF OUR LONG-TERM GROUP MEMBERS DIED, AND AT TIME OF CRISIS, PEOPLE NEED PEOPLE.
MEMBERS DIED, AND AT TIME OF CRISIS, PEOPLE NEED PEOPLE. THE SUPPORT GROUP GOES TO THE
CRISIS, PEOPLE NEED PEOPLE. THE SUPPORT GROUP GOES TO THE VISITATION TOGETHER.
THE SUPPORT GROUP GOES TO THE VISITATION TOGETHER. WE TAKE SOME TIME DURING THE
VISITATION TOGETHER. WE TAKE SOME TIME DURING THE NEXT GROUP AFTER THAT PERSON HAS
WE TAKE SOME TIME DURING THE NEXT GROUP AFTER THAT PERSON HAS DIED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE
NEXT GROUP AFTER THAT PERSON HAS DIED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE REMEMBER ABOUT THAT GROUP MEMBER
DIED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE REMEMBER ABOUT THAT GROUP MEMBER MEMBER.
REMEMBER ABOUT THAT GROUP MEMBER MEMBER. THE SPOUSE OR THE CAREGIVER
MEMBER. THE SPOUSE OR THE CAREGIVER WHOEVER WAS COMING TO THE GROUP
THE SPOUSE OR THE CAREGIVER WHOEVER WAS COMING TO THE GROUP WITH THE PERSON WHO DIED COMES
WHOEVER WAS COMING TO THE GROUP WITH THE PERSON WHO DIED COMES BACK AND MAKES THE CONNECTIONS
WITH THE PERSON WHO DIED COMES BACK AND MAKES THE CONNECTIONS ALSO.
BACK AND MAKES THE CONNECTIONS ALSO. IT BECOMES -- IT IS A VERY SAD
ALSO. IT BECOMES -- IT IS A VERY SAD PART OF THE GROUP, BUT EVEN IN
IT BECOMES -- IT IS A VERY SAD PART OF THE GROUP, BUT EVEN IN THE MIDST OF THE GRIEF, THEY ARE
PART OF THE GROUP, BUT EVEN IN THE MIDST OF THE GRIEF, THEY ARE STILL CONNECTED TO ONE ANOTHER.
THE MIDST OF THE GRIEF, THEY ARE STILL CONNECTED TO ONE ANOTHER. >>HERE IS A CHEMO MOMENT!
STILL CONNECTED TO ONE ANOTHER. >>HERE IS A CHEMO MOMENT! (LAUGHING) GOT TO GET USED TO
>>HERE IS A CHEMO MOMENT! (LAUGHING) GOT TO GET USED TO THIS.
(LAUGHING) GOT TO GET USED TO THIS. >>BY OSMOSIS!
THIS. >>BY OSMOSIS! >>DO YOU FIND YOURSELF SHARING
>>BY OSMOSIS! >>DO YOU FIND YOURSELF SHARING WITH A NEW GROUP OF PEOPLE NOW?
>>DO YOU FIND YOURSELF SHARING WITH A NEW GROUP OF PEOPLE NOW? >> YES -- I THINK.
WITH A NEW GROUP OF PEOPLE NOW? >> YES -- I THINK. BECAUSE OF YOUR SUPPORT GROUP?
>> YES -- I THINK. BECAUSE OF YOUR SUPPORT GROUP? >> YES, I THINK THAT I FOUND
BECAUSE OF YOUR SUPPORT GROUP? >> YES, I THINK THAT I FOUND THAT I HAVE A HUGE SUPPORT
>> YES, I THINK THAT I FOUND THAT I HAVE A HUGE SUPPORT GROUP, AND THAT I CAN TURN TO
THAT I HAVE A HUGE SUPPORT GROUP, AND THAT I CAN TURN TO PEOPLE WITHOUT ANY HESITATION
GROUP, AND THAT I CAN TURN TO PEOPLE WITHOUT ANY HESITATION ANY MORE.
PEOPLE WITHOUT ANY HESITATION ANY MORE. YOU KNOW, I NEED SOMETHING, I
ANY MORE. YOU KNOW, I NEED SOMETHING, I KNOW WHERE TO GO.
YOU KNOW, I NEED SOMETHING, I KNOW WHERE TO GO. I KNOW WHAT I NEED OR WHAT I
KNOW WHERE TO GO. I KNOW WHAT I NEED OR WHAT I WANT.
I KNOW WHAT I NEED OR WHAT I WANT. THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE
WANT. THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE WITH CANCER THAT I DIDN'T KNOW
THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE WITH CANCER THAT I DIDN'T KNOW HAD CANCER.
WITH CANCER THAT I DIDN'T KNOW HAD CANCER. WE ARE ABLE TO SHARE.
HAD CANCER. WE ARE ABLE TO SHARE. ONE THING WITH KIDS KONNECTED
WE ARE ABLE TO SHARE. ONE THING WITH KIDS KONNECTED THAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT
ONE THING WITH KIDS KONNECTED THAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT WHEN I GOT DIAGNOSED WITH
THAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT WHEN I GOT DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER, ONE OF MY FIRST
WHEN I GOT DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER, ONE OF MY FIRST INSTINCTS -- I HAVE FIVE
CANCER, ONE OF MY FIRST INSTINCTS -- I HAVE FIVE CHILDREN -- ONE OF MY FIRST
INSTINCTS -- I HAVE FIVE CHILDREN -- ONE OF MY FIRST INSTINCTS WAS I NEED HELP WITH
CHILDREN -- ONE OF MY FIRST INSTINCTS WAS I NEED HELP WITH THE KIDS.
INSTINCTS WAS I NEED HELP WITH THE KIDS. I NEED COUNSELING BECAUSE WHAT
THE KIDS. I NEED COUNSELING BECAUSE WHAT IF, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE
I NEED COUNSELING BECAUSE WHAT IF, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE REALISTIC.
IF, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE REALISTIC. ONCE I GATHERED MY THOUGHTS AND
REALISTIC. ONCE I GATHERED MY THOUGHTS AND EVERYTHING, THEY NEED
ONCE I GATHERED MY THOUGHTS AND EVERYTHING, THEY NEED COUNSELING.
EVERYTHING, THEY NEED COUNSELING. THEY NEED A PLACE TO TURN.
COUNSELING. THEY NEED A PLACE TO TURN. SO ONE OF THE NURSES OUT AT OSF
THEY NEED A PLACE TO TURN. SO ONE OF THE NURSES OUT AT OSF IS THE ONE WHO GAVE ME THE
SO ONE OF THE NURSES OUT AT OSF IS THE ONE WHO GAVE ME THE INFORMATION ON KIDS KONNECTED.
IS THE ONE WHO GAVE ME THE INFORMATION ON KIDS KONNECTED. THAT'S HOW WE GOT STARTED, AND I
INFORMATION ON KIDS KONNECTED. THAT'S HOW WE GOT STARTED, AND I TOOK MOST OF MY CHILDREN TO --
THAT'S HOW WE GOT STARTED, AND I TOOK MOST OF MY CHILDREN TO -- BECAUSE I HAVE OLDER CHILDREN,
TOOK MOST OF MY CHILDREN TO -- BECAUSE I HAVE OLDER CHILDREN, TOO, TO THE FIRST MEETING AND MY
BECAUSE I HAVE OLDER CHILDREN, TOO, TO THE FIRST MEETING AND MY MOTHER.
TOO, TO THE FIRST MEETING AND MY MOTHER. SHE HAPPENED TO BE HERE.
MOTHER. SHE HAPPENED TO BE HERE. SHE LIVES IN NEW MEXICO.
SHE HAPPENED TO BE HERE. SHE LIVES IN NEW MEXICO. SHE HAPPENED TO BE VISITING AT
SHE LIVES IN NEW MEXICO. SHE HAPPENED TO BE VISITING AT THAT TIME.
SHE HAPPENED TO BE VISITING AT THAT TIME. THAT'S HOW WE GOT STARTED.
THAT TIME. THAT'S HOW WE GOT STARTED. >> WHEN YOU LOOK TO FRIENDS OR
THAT'S HOW WE GOT STARTED. >> WHEN YOU LOOK TO FRIENDS OR OTHER CANCER SURVIVORS FOR
>> WHEN YOU LOOK TO FRIENDS OR OTHER CANCER SURVIVORS FOR SUPPORT, DO YOU TEND NOT TO CALL
OTHER CANCER SURVIVORS FOR SUPPORT, DO YOU TEND NOT TO CALL UPON THEM?
SUPPORT, DO YOU TEND NOT TO CALL UPON THEM? LET ME PREFACE BY SAYING THAT
UPON THEM? LET ME PREFACE BY SAYING THAT WHEN SOMEONE COMES UP THEY
LET ME PREFACE BY SAYING THAT WHEN SOMEONE COMES UP THEY NOTIFY ME THEY HAVE NOW HAVE
WHEN SOMEONE COMES UP THEY NOTIFY ME THEY HAVE NOW HAVE CANCER, QUITE FRANKLY I DON'T
NOTIFY ME THEY HAVE NOW HAVE CANCER, QUITE FRANKLY I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
CANCER, QUITE FRANKLY I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO SAY.
KNOW WHAT TO SAY. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO SAY. I END UP, YOU KNOW, IN SOME
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO SAY. I END UP, YOU KNOW, IN SOME UNCOMFORTABLE MANNER SAYING, "IF
I END UP, YOU KNOW, IN SOME UNCOMFORTABLE MANNER SAYING, "IF YOU EVER NEED ANYTHING, DON'T
UNCOMFORTABLE MANNER SAYING, "IF YOU EVER NEED ANYTHING, DON'T HESITATE TO CALL."
YOU EVER NEED ANYTHING, DON'T HESITATE TO CALL." THEY NEVER CALLED.
HESITATE TO CALL." THEY NEVER CALLED. >>RIGHT.
THEY NEVER CALLED. >>RIGHT. >>WHY IS THAT?
>>RIGHT. >>WHY IS THAT? >> BECAUSE WE THINK WE CAN DO IT
>>WHY IS THAT? >> BECAUSE WE THINK WE CAN DO IT BY OURSELVES.
>> BECAUSE WE THINK WE CAN DO IT BY OURSELVES. BECAUSE WE ARE NOT USED TO
BY OURSELVES. BECAUSE WE ARE NOT USED TO HAVING TO ASK FOR THAT HELP.
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT USED TO HAVING TO ASK FOR THAT HELP. AND A FRIEND OF MINE SET ME
HAVING TO ASK FOR THAT HELP. AND A FRIEND OF MINE SET ME STRAIGHT ONE DAY AND SAID,
AND A FRIEND OF MINE SET ME STRAIGHT ONE DAY AND SAID, "LAVERNE, YOU KNOW WHAT, THESE
STRAIGHT ONE DAY AND SAID, "LAVERNE, YOU KNOW WHAT, THESE PEOPLE WANT TO DO THIS FOR YOU.
"LAVERNE, YOU KNOW WHAT, THESE PEOPLE WANT TO DO THIS FOR YOU. LET THEM HELP YOU.
PEOPLE WANT TO DO THIS FOR YOU. LET THEM HELP YOU. YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ON THE
LET THEM HELP YOU. YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ON THE OTHER END."
YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ON THE OTHER END." I WAS ALWAYS ON THE HELPING END,
OTHER END." I WAS ALWAYS ON THE HELPING END, HELPING SOMEBODY OUT, NOT
I WAS ALWAYS ON THE HELPING END, HELPING SOMEBODY OUT, NOT HELPING ME.
HELPING SOMEBODY OUT, NOT HELPING ME. BECAUSE I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
HELPING ME. BECAUSE I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN INVOLVED WITH RELAY FOR LIFE AND
BECAUSE I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN INVOLVED WITH RELAY FOR LIFE AND ST. JUDE'S.
INVOLVED WITH RELAY FOR LIFE AND ST. JUDE'S. I WASN'T USED TO BEING ON THE
ST. JUDE'S. I WASN'T USED TO BEING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS.
I WASN'T USED TO BEING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS. >>YOU ARE SHAKING YOUR HEAD, IN
OTHER SIDE OF THIS. >>YOU ARE SHAKING YOUR HEAD, IN AGREEMENT?
>>YOU ARE SHAKING YOUR HEAD, IN AGREEMENT? >> I ABSOLUTELY AGREE, YES.
AGREEMENT? >> I ABSOLUTELY AGREE, YES. TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION,
>> I ABSOLUTELY AGREE, YES. TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION, WHAT DO YOU SAY WHEN SOMEBODY
TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION, WHAT DO YOU SAY WHEN SOMEBODY TELLS YOU "I WAS JUST DIAGNOSED
WHAT DO YOU SAY WHEN SOMEBODY TELLS YOU "I WAS JUST DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER."
TELLS YOU "I WAS JUST DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER." THE FIRST THING EMPATHIZE, THIS
WITH CANCER." THE FIRST THING EMPATHIZE, THIS IS DIFFICULT.
THE FIRST THING EMPATHIZE, THIS IS DIFFICULT. SOMETIMES TELL ME WHAT I CAN DO
IS DIFFICULT. SOMETIMES TELL ME WHAT I CAN DO TO HELP, BUT THIS IS VERY
SOMETIMES TELL ME WHAT I CAN DO TO HELP, BUT THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT.
TO HELP, BUT THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT. I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH
DIFFICULT. I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MUCH ABOUT IT.
I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MUCH ABOUT IT. BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN
MUCH ABOUT IT. BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN HELP YOU AND DON'T HESITATE TO
BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN HELP YOU AND DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT FOR THAT HELP.
HELP YOU AND DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT FOR THAT HELP. THERE IS A LOT OF HELP, AND
REACH OUT FOR THAT HELP. THERE IS A LOT OF HELP, AND THERE TRULY IS.
THERE IS A LOT OF HELP, AND THERE TRULY IS. IT COMES IN VARIOUS FORMS.
THERE TRULY IS. IT COMES IN VARIOUS FORMS. >>SO IT MIGHT BE BEST FOR ME TO
IT COMES IN VARIOUS FORMS. >>SO IT MIGHT BE BEST FOR ME TO SAY, "ARE YOU AWARE OF KIDS
>>SO IT MIGHT BE BEST FOR ME TO SAY, "ARE YOU AWARE OF KIDS KONNECTED?
SAY, "ARE YOU AWARE OF KIDS KONNECTED? ARE YOU AWARE OF CANCER CENTER
KONNECTED? ARE YOU AWARE OF CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING".
ARE YOU AWARE OF CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING". >>ABSOLUTELY.
FOR HEALTHY LIVING". >>ABSOLUTELY. >>I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO
>>ABSOLUTELY. >>I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION EARLIER
>>I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT WHEN YOU LOSE SOMEBODY.
RESPOND TO THE QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT WHEN YOU LOSE SOMEBODY. >> I HAVE HAD THAT HAPPEN AT
ABOUT WHEN YOU LOSE SOMEBODY. >> I HAVE HAD THAT HAPPEN AT KIDS KONNECTED BEFORE.
>> I HAVE HAD THAT HAPPEN AT KIDS KONNECTED BEFORE. WE HAD IN ONE NIGHT, WE HAD TWO
KIDS KONNECTED BEFORE. WE HAD IN ONE NIGHT, WE HAD TWO GROUPS COME BACK IN OF SIBLINGS
WE HAD IN ONE NIGHT, WE HAD TWO GROUPS COME BACK IN OF SIBLINGS THAT CAME IN, AND THEY HAD BOTH
GROUPS COME BACK IN OF SIBLINGS THAT CAME IN, AND THEY HAD BOTH LOVED THEIR LOFTED ONE N ONE
THAT CAME IN, AND THEY HAD BOTH LOVED THEIR LOFTED ONE N ONE CASE IT WAS A MOTHER, AND IN
LOVED THEIR LOFTED ONE N ONE CASE IT WAS A MOTHER, AND IN ANOTHER CASE IT WAS AN AUNT.
CASE IT WAS A MOTHER, AND IN ANOTHER CASE IT WAS AN AUNT. IT IS HARD IN THOSE SITUATIONS
ANOTHER CASE IT WAS AN AUNT. IT IS HARD IN THOSE SITUATIONS TOO, WE DEAL WITH ROSEMARY WHO
IT IS HARD IN THOSE SITUATIONS TOO, WE DEAL WITH ROSEMARY WHO WAS GOING THROUGH TREATMENT.
TOO, WE DEAL WITH ROSEMARY WHO WAS GOING THROUGH TREATMENT. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT
WAS GOING THROUGH TREATMENT. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE PEOPLE WHO LOST SOMEBODY,
I THINK WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE PEOPLE WHO LOST SOMEBODY, BUT ALSO THAT DID THAT PUT FEAR
OF THE PEOPLE WHO LOST SOMEBODY, BUT ALSO THAT DID THAT PUT FEAR IN ROSEMARY BECAUSE HER MOM WAS
BUT ALSO THAT DID THAT PUT FEAR IN ROSEMARY BECAUSE HER MOM WAS GOING THROUGH TREATMENT.
IN ROSEMARY BECAUSE HER MOM WAS GOING THROUGH TREATMENT. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM BOTH
GOING THROUGH TREATMENT. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM BOTH ENDS.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM BOTH ENDS. WITH KIDS, YOU HAVE TO ASSESS
ENDS. WITH KIDS, YOU HAVE TO ASSESS HOW THEY ARE REACTING TO THAT,
WITH KIDS, YOU HAVE TO ASSESS HOW THEY ARE REACTING TO THAT, AND DEFINITELY IT WAS SOMETHING
HOW THEY ARE REACTING TO THAT, AND DEFINITELY IT WAS SOMETHING I AM SURE IT WAS A HARD NIGHT
AND DEFINITELY IT WAS SOMETHING I AM SURE IT WAS A HARD NIGHT FOR ALL OF US BECAUSE THE KIDS
I AM SURE IT WAS A HARD NIGHT FOR ALL OF US BECAUSE THE KIDS WERE UPSET.
FOR ALL OF US BECAUSE THE KIDS WERE UPSET. WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE
WERE UPSET. WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE ROSEMARY -- ROSEMARY IS A GREAT
WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE ROSEMARY -- ROSEMARY IS A GREAT KID, AND SHE WAS ALSO VERY
ROSEMARY -- ROSEMARY IS A GREAT KID, AND SHE WAS ALSO VERY HELPFUL TO THOSE KIDS.
KID, AND SHE WAS ALSO VERY HELPFUL TO THOSE KIDS. YOU LET THEM KNOW YOU ARE THERE,
HELPFUL TO THOSE KIDS. YOU LET THEM KNOW YOU ARE THERE, AND ONCE AGAIN, WE KIND OF TALK.
YOU LET THEM KNOW YOU ARE THERE, AND ONCE AGAIN, WE KIND OF TALK. HOW DID YOU FEEL YOU FOUND OUT A
AND ONCE AGAIN, WE KIND OF TALK. HOW DID YOU FEEL YOU FOUND OUT A PARENT OF ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS AT
HOW DID YOU FEEL YOU FOUND OUT A PARENT OF ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS AT KIDS KONNECTED HAD PASSED AWAY?
PARENT OF ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS AT KIDS KONNECTED HAD PASSED AWAY? >> LIKE SAD BECAUSE, LIKE, YOU
KIDS KONNECTED HAD PASSED AWAY? >> LIKE SAD BECAUSE, LIKE, YOU WOULDN'T REALLY KNOW THAT IT
>> LIKE SAD BECAUSE, LIKE, YOU WOULDN'T REALLY KNOW THAT IT HAPPENED KIND OF BEFORE IF YOU
WOULDN'T REALLY KNOW THAT IT HAPPENED KIND OF BEFORE IF YOU REALLY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT.
HAPPENED KIND OF BEFORE IF YOU REALLY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT. >> DO YOU EVER WORRY ABOUT YOUR
REALLY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT. >> DO YOU EVER WORRY ABOUT YOUR MOM MAYBE DYING?
>> DO YOU EVER WORRY ABOUT YOUR MOM MAYBE DYING? >> SOMETIMES, YEAH.
MOM MAYBE DYING? >> SOMETIMES, YEAH. >>I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE
>> SOMETIMES, YEAH. >>I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE TRY TO WORK WITH THE KIDS.
>>I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE TRY TO WORK WITH THE KIDS. IF THEY DO HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS.
TRY TO WORK WITH THE KIDS. IF THEY DO HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DAYS MAYBE
IF THEY DO HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DAYS MAYBE ROSEMARY DOESN'T WANT TO TALK
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DAYS MAYBE ROSEMARY DOESN'T WANT TO TALK WITH THE OTHER KIDS IN THE ROOM
ROSEMARY DOESN'T WANT TO TALK WITH THE OTHER KIDS IN THE ROOM OR SHE HAS A QUESTION SHE WANTS
WITH THE OTHER KIDS IN THE ROOM OR SHE HAS A QUESTION SHE WANTS TO ASK US ONE-ON-ONE, WE WILL GO
OR SHE HAS A QUESTION SHE WANTS TO ASK US ONE-ON-ONE, WE WILL GO OFF AND DO THAT.
TO ASK US ONE-ON-ONE, WE WILL GO OFF AND DO THAT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEIR
OFF AND DO THAT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEIR QUESTIONS ARE BEING ANSWERED.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEIR QUESTIONS ARE BEING ANSWERED. GOOD DAYS AND BAD DAYS?
QUESTIONS ARE BEING ANSWERED. GOOD DAYS AND BAD DAYS? >> GOOD DAYS AND BAD DAYS.
GOOD DAYS AND BAD DAYS? >> GOOD DAYS AND BAD DAYS. I WANT TO PICK UP ON WHAT
>> GOOD DAYS AND BAD DAYS. I WANT TO PICK UP ON WHAT ROSEMARY SAID, THAT HAVING A
I WANT TO PICK UP ON WHAT ROSEMARY SAID, THAT HAVING A SENSE OF SADNESS, THERE IS
ROSEMARY SAID, THAT HAVING A SENSE OF SADNESS, THERE IS SOMETHING EMPOWERING, YOU HAVE
SENSE OF SADNESS, THERE IS SOMETHING EMPOWERING, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THIS IS A COMMON
SOMETHING EMPOWERING, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THIS IS A COMMON EXPERIENCE TO HAVE SADNESS.
TO REALIZE THIS IS A COMMON EXPERIENCE TO HAVE SADNESS. IT IS NOT JUST HAPPENING TO ME.
EXPERIENCE TO HAVE SADNESS. IT IS NOT JUST HAPPENING TO ME. THESE SIDE EFFECTS ARE NOT JUST
IT IS NOT JUST HAPPENING TO ME. THESE SIDE EFFECTS ARE NOT JUST HAPPENING TO ME. I AM NOT ONLY
THESE SIDE EFFECTS ARE NOT JUST HAPPENING TO ME. I AM NOT ONLY ONE WORRYING ABOUT WHAT WILL
HAPPENING TO ME. I AM NOT ONLY ONE WORRYING ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO ME IN THE FUTURE.
ONE WORRYING ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO ME IN THE FUTURE. THERE IS SOME STRENGTH AND
HAPPEN TO ME IN THE FUTURE. THERE IS SOME STRENGTH AND EMPOWERMENT WE FEEL, WELL, I
THERE IS SOME STRENGTH AND EMPOWERMENT WE FEEL, WELL, I HATE TO USE THE WORD "NORMAL."
EMPOWERMENT WE FEEL, WELL, I HATE TO USE THE WORD "NORMAL." I THINK THAT GIVES US STRENGTH,
HATE TO USE THE WORD "NORMAL." I THINK THAT GIVES US STRENGTH, THIS IS A COMMON HUMAN
I THINK THAT GIVES US STRENGTH, THIS IS A COMMON HUMAN EXPERIENCE, IN THAT OTHER PEOPLE
THIS IS A COMMON HUMAN EXPERIENCE, IN THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED IT.
EXPERIENCE, IN THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED IT. THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL.
HAVE EXPERIENCED IT. THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL. TO SOME EXTENT THAT HELPS.
THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL. TO SOME EXTENT THAT HELPS. >>IF I MAY, I COMPLETELY AGREE
TO SOME EXTENT THAT HELPS. >>IF I MAY, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH DR. THOMAS.
>>IF I MAY, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH DR. THOMAS. I THINK WHEN PEOPLE -- I USE THE
WITH DR. THOMAS. I THINK WHEN PEOPLE -- I USE THE WORD NORMALIZE OFTEN.
I THINK WHEN PEOPLE -- I USE THE WORD NORMALIZE OFTEN. A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME
WORD NORMALIZE OFTEN. A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME TO GROUP AND REALIZE FOR THE
A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME TO GROUP AND REALIZE FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT OTHER PEOPLE
TO GROUP AND REALIZE FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE SAME WORRIES, THE
FIRST TIME THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE SAME WORRIES, THE SAME CONCERNS OR THE SAME JOYS
HAVE HAD THE SAME WORRIES, THE SAME CONCERNS OR THE SAME JOYS EVEN, YOU HAD SAID EARLIER THAT
SAME CONCERNS OR THE SAME JOYS EVEN, YOU HAD SAID EARLIER THAT CANCER WAS KIND OF THE BLESSING
EVEN, YOU HAD SAID EARLIER THAT CANCER WAS KIND OF THE BLESSING IN DISGUISE, AND SOME PEOPLE AT
CANCER WAS KIND OF THE BLESSING IN DISGUISE, AND SOME PEOPLE AT FIRST WHEN THEY THINK THAT,
IN DISGUISE, AND SOME PEOPLE AT FIRST WHEN THEY THINK THAT, "WELL, MAYBE I AM WEIRD."
FIRST WHEN THEY THINK THAT, "WELL, MAYBE I AM WEIRD." BUT WHEN THEY FIND OUT OTHER
"WELL, MAYBE I AM WEIRD." BUT WHEN THEY FIND OUT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE SAME
BUT WHEN THEY FIND OUT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE, IT IS SUCH AN
PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE, IT IS SUCH AN EMPOWERING FEELING TO KNOW YOU
EXPERIENCE, IT IS SUCH AN EMPOWERING FEELING TO KNOW YOU ARE NOT WEIRD, YOU HENSON
EMPOWERING FEELING TO KNOW YOU ARE NOT WEIRD, YOU HENSON ROBINSON NOT ISOLATED, OR YOU
ARE NOT WEIRD, YOU HENSON ROBINSON NOT ISOLATED, OR YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
ROBINSON NOT ISOLATED, OR YOU ARE NOT ALONE. >>I THINK THAT, TOO, WITH KIDS.
ARE NOT ALONE. >>I THINK THAT, TOO, WITH KIDS. MY FATHER WAS A CANCER SURVIVOR
>>I THINK THAT, TOO, WITH KIDS. MY FATHER WAS A CANCER SURVIVOR THAT'S SOMETHING I SHARE WITH
MY FATHER WAS A CANCER SURVIVOR THAT'S SOMETHING I SHARE WITH THEM.
THAT'S SOMETHING I SHARE WITH THEM. EVEN AS ADULT CHILD, IT WAS SO
THEM. EVEN AS ADULT CHILD, IT WAS SO SCARY FOR ME.
EVEN AS ADULT CHILD, IT WAS SO SCARY FOR ME. I STILL HAD QUESTIONS.
SCARY FOR ME. I STILL HAD QUESTIONS. I ALWAYS WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT
I STILL HAD QUESTIONS. I ALWAYS WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT SO THEY ZINI AS SOMEBODY ON THE
I ALWAYS WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT SO THEY ZINI AS SOMEBODY ON THE SAME PLAYING FIELD WITH THEM.
SO THEY ZINI AS SOMEBODY ON THE SAME PLAYING FIELD WITH THEM. >>DEBRA MENTIONED, I BELIEVE YOU
SAME PLAYING FIELD WITH THEM. >>DEBRA MENTIONED, I BELIEVE YOU WERE REFERRING TO SOMETHING
>>DEBRA MENTIONED, I BELIEVE YOU WERE REFERRING TO SOMETHING BEFORE WE DID THE TAPING, YOU
WERE REFERRING TO SOMETHING BEFORE WE DID THE TAPING, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A CHANGE IN.
BEFORE WE DID THE TAPING, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A CHANGE IN. >>PARADIGM SHIFT.
WERE TALKING ABOUT A CHANGE IN. >>PARADIGM SHIFT. >>PARADIGM SHIFT.
>>PARADIGM SHIFT. >>PARADIGM SHIFT. USING THE TERM, CHEMO BRAIN,
>>PARADIGM SHIFT. USING THE TERM, CHEMO BRAIN, PARADIGM SHIFT.
USING THE TERM, CHEMO BRAIN, PARADIGM SHIFT. WHAT KIND OF PARADIGM SHIFT
PARADIGM SHIFT. WHAT KIND OF PARADIGM SHIFT OCCURRED FOR YOU?
WHAT KIND OF PARADIGM SHIFT OCCURRED FOR YOU? >> FIRST OF ALL, I WAS VERY
OCCURRED FOR YOU? >> FIRST OF ALL, I WAS VERY ANGRY THAT I HAD CANCER.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I WAS VERY ANGRY THAT I HAD CANCER. I DIDN'T HAVE TIME FOR IT.
ANGRY THAT I HAD CANCER. I DIDN'T HAVE TIME FOR IT. IT WAS, YOU KNOW, CANCER IS
I DIDN'T HAVE TIME FOR IT. IT WAS, YOU KNOW, CANCER IS NEVER A GOOD TIME.
IT WAS, YOU KNOW, CANCER IS NEVER A GOOD TIME. >>DISRUPPED YOUR LIFE ROUTINE?
NEVER A GOOD TIME. >>DISRUPPED YOUR LIFE ROUTINE? >> YES, IT DID.
>>DISRUPPED YOUR LIFE ROUTINE? >> YES, IT DID. IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
>> YES, IT DID. IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. THERE WERE THINGS I HAD TO GET
IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. THERE WERE THINGS I HAD TO GET DONE, AND PLACES TO GO, AND IT
THERE WERE THINGS I HAD TO GET DONE, AND PLACES TO GO, AND IT STOPPED ME.
DONE, AND PLACES TO GO, AND IT STOPPED ME. GOING THROUGHOUT CHEMO AND
STOPPED ME. GOING THROUGHOUT CHEMO AND EVERYTHING, I FELT VERY HELPLESS
GOING THROUGHOUT CHEMO AND EVERYTHING, I FELT VERY HELPLESS BECAUSE I COULDN'T DO A LOST
EVERYTHING, I FELT VERY HELPLESS BECAUSE I COULDN'T DO A LOST THINGS, BUT I WOULD STILL --
BECAUSE I COULDN'T DO A LOST THINGS, BUT I WOULD STILL -- PEOPLE DIDN'T PERCEIVE ME AS
THINGS, BUT I WOULD STILL -- PEOPLE DIDN'T PERCEIVE ME AS BEING SICK BECAUSE I CONTINUED
PEOPLE DIDN'T PERCEIVE ME AS BEING SICK BECAUSE I CONTINUED ON.
BEING SICK BECAUSE I CONTINUED ON. THAT'S WHAT ANOTHER FRIEND OF
ON. THAT'S WHAT ANOTHER FRIEND OF MINE HAD SAID "WELL, LAVERNE
THAT'S WHAT ANOTHER FRIEND OF MINE HAD SAID "WELL, LAVERNE THEY DON'T REALIZE HOW SICK YOU
MINE HAD SAID "WELL, LAVERNE THEY DON'T REALIZE HOW SICK YOU ARE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LET THEM
THEY DON'T REALIZE HOW SICK YOU ARE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LET THEM SEE THAT SIDE OF YOU."
ARE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LET THEM SEE THAT SIDE OF YOU." >>IT WAS ATTITUDE THING?
SEE THAT SIDE OF YOU." >>IT WAS ATTITUDE THING? >> PROBABLY, YEAH.
>>IT WAS ATTITUDE THING? >> PROBABLY, YEAH. >>IS THERE A LOT TO BE SAID,
>> PROBABLY, YEAH. >>IS THERE A LOT TO BE SAID, DOCTOR, FOR THE ATTITUDE OF A
>>IS THERE A LOT TO BE SAID, DOCTOR, FOR THE ATTITUDE OF A PATIENT?
DOCTOR, FOR THE ATTITUDE OF A PATIENT? >> I THINK SO, YES.
PATIENT? >> I THINK SO, YES. YOU DERRIVE FROM YOUR OWN
>> I THINK SO, YES. YOU DERRIVE FROM YOUR OWN STRENGTH AND THE STRENGTH LENT
YOU DERRIVE FROM YOUR OWN STRENGTH AND THE STRENGTH LENT TO YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS AND
STRENGTH AND THE STRENGTH LENT TO YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
TO YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY. TO SOME EXTENT, YES.
FAMILY. TO SOME EXTENT, YES. THE COPING MECHANISMS PLAY A BIG
TO SOME EXTENT, YES. THE COPING MECHANISMS PLAY A BIG ROLE HOW YOU DEAL WITH THE
THE COPING MECHANISMS PLAY A BIG ROLE HOW YOU DEAL WITH THE DIAGNOSIS AFTER THAT.
ROLE HOW YOU DEAL WITH THE DIAGNOSIS AFTER THAT. >>LET ME REMIND EVERYBODY HOW
DIAGNOSIS AFTER THAT. >>LET ME REMIND EVERYBODY HOW YOU CAN GET AHOLD OF KIDS
>>LET ME REMIND EVERYBODY HOW YOU CAN GET AHOLD OF KIDS KONNECTED AND CANCER CENTER FOR
YOU CAN GET AHOLD OF KIDS KONNECTED AND CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING.
KONNECTED AND CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING. YOU HAVE A WEB SITE.
HEALTHY LIVING. YOU HAVE A WEB SITE. >>WE DO HAVE A WEB SITE, AND YOU
YOU HAVE A WEB SITE. >>WE DO HAVE A WEB SITE, AND YOU CAN ACCESS IT THROUGH THE CANCER
>>WE DO HAVE A WEB SITE, AND YOU CAN ACCESS IT THROUGH THE CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING OR BY
CAN ACCESS IT THROUGH THE CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING OR BY CONTACTING THE HEALTH EDUCATION
CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING OR BY CONTACTING THE HEALTH EDUCATION CENTER. THAT'S WHERE WE MEET
CONTACTING THE HEALTH EDUCATION CENTER. THAT'S WHERE WE MEET THE FIRST AND THIRD MONDAY'S OF
CENTER. THAT'S WHERE WE MEET THE FIRST AND THIRD MONDAY'S OF THE MONTH.
THE FIRST AND THIRD MONDAY'S OF THE MONTH. >>CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY
THE MONTH. >>CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING LOCATED IN THE SAME
>>CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING LOCATED IN THE SAME BUILDING.
LIVING LOCATED IN THE SAME BUILDING. >>YES, ON KNOXVILLE NEXT TO
BUILDING. >>YES, ON KNOXVILLE NEXT TO PROCTOR HOSPITAL.
>>YES, ON KNOXVILLE NEXT TO PROCTOR HOSPITAL. >>BUILDING WITH THE RED APPLE?
PROCTOR HOSPITAL. >>BUILDING WITH THE RED APPLE? >> YES (LAUGHING).
>>BUILDING WITH THE RED APPLE? >> YES (LAUGHING). >>YOU CAN'T MISS IT.
>> YES (LAUGHING). >>YOU CAN'T MISS IT. IT IS THE HEALTH EDUCATION
>>YOU CAN'T MISS IT. IT IS THE HEALTH EDUCATION CENTER.
IT IS THE HEALTH EDUCATION CENTER. WWW.CCHO?
CENTER. WWW.CCHO? >> CCHL PEORIA.ORG.
WWW.CCHO? >> CCHL PEORIA.ORG. AND THERE IS INFORMATION ABOUT
>> CCHL PEORIA.ORG. AND THERE IS INFORMATION ABOUT ALL OF THE PROGRAMS WE OFFER ARE
AND THERE IS INFORMATION ABOUT ALL OF THE PROGRAMS WE OFFER ARE BUT THEN ALSO ALSO A RESOURCES
ALL OF THE PROGRAMS WE OFFER ARE BUT THEN ALSO ALSO A RESOURCES PAGE WITH LINKS TO KIDS
BUT THEN ALSO ALSO A RESOURCES PAGE WITH LINKS TO KIDS KONNECTED, AMERICAN CANCER
PAGE WITH LINKS TO KIDS KONNECTED, AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, A WONDERFUL SOURCE OF
KONNECTED, AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, A WONDERFUL SOURCE OF INFORMATION IN THE COMMUNITY,
SOCIETY, A WONDERFUL SOURCE OF INFORMATION IN THE COMMUNITY, AND VARIETY OF OTHER
INFORMATION IN THE COMMUNITY, AND VARIETY OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ON A NATIONAL
AND VARIETY OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ON A NATIONAL LEVEL.
ORGANIZATIONS ON A NATIONAL LEVEL. >>THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
LEVEL. >>THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US,.
>>THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US,. >> DEBBIE: OF CANCER CENTER FOR
WITH US,. >> DEBBIE: OF CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING, NICOLE BAER OF
>> DEBBIE: OF CANCER CENTER FOR HEALTHY LIVING, NICOLE BAER OF KIDS KONNECTED, DR. SACHDEV
HEALTHY LIVING, NICOLE BAER OF KIDS KONNECTED, DR. SACHDEV THOMAS OF ONCOLOGY HEMATOLOGY
KIDS KONNECTED, DR. SACHDEV THOMAS OF ONCOLOGY HEMATOLOGY ASSOCIATES, AND LAVERNE AND
THOMAS OF ONCOLOGY HEMATOLOGY ASSOCIATES, AND LAVERNE AND ROSEMARY O'SHEA.
ASSOCIATES, AND LAVERNE AND ROSEMARY O'SHEA. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH
ROSEMARY O'SHEA. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US. BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR CONTINUED
US. BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR CONTINUED SURVIVING WITH BREAST CANCER.
BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR CONTINUED SURVIVING WITH BREAST CANCER. WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
SURVIVING WITH BREAST CANCER. WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. WE HOPE THAT THIS HAS BEEN
WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. WE HOPE THAT THIS HAS BEEN ENLIGHTENING FOR YOU. WE HOPE
WE HOPE THAT THIS HAS BEEN ENLIGHTENING FOR YOU. WE HOPE YOU ENJOY THE REMAINDER OF THE
ENLIGHTENING FOR YOU. WE HOPE YOU ENJOY THE REMAINDER OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON. WE WELCOME YOU
YOU ENJOY THE REMAINDER OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON. WE WELCOME YOU TO JOIN US AGAIN AT THE START OF
HOLIDAY SEASON. WE WELCOME YOU TO JOIN US AGAIN AT THE START OF A NEW YEAR FOR MORE AT ISSUE
TO JOIN US AGAIN AT THE START OF A NEW YEAR FOR MORE AT ISSUE HERE ON CHANNEL 47.
A NEW YEAR FOR MORE AT ISSUE HERE ON CHANNEL 47. >>