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joining us is erica o'neill he's a founding partner of the georgetown
grouper premier investigative services diligence and security company also
former f_b_i_ agent portrayed by ryan philippi in the movie breach great to
talk to get there
destination ended
so we've been following the secret service scandal of course involving now
a number of uh... secrets former so some former and current secret service uh...
members and members of the military in colombia
uh... we now are getting some information from the actual ***
who was involved in what seems to be the kind of primary altercation overpayments
in colombia
my first question she would be what was your reaction when you heard about the
story specifically as far as the kind of internal culture of the secret service
as it was understood by you and other members of the f_b_i_
uh... one word would be disappointed
audio one expects that
secret service numbers who are
on the site where the president is
to be doing things like bringing a bunch of prostitutes at their home in clearly
not very discreetly
you know when you involve such a big circle of people
there's no way that you can action imagined how they thought they were
artifact abilities
yes i did in the first place first
are severe lack of judgement
okay so we heard from some people say they are saying you know a former secret
service agent saying
this isn't that unusual you know more commonly it was like a party type seen
after the president left before the president arrives
maybe a little less common but the reaction was almost like this is this is
not that big of a deal these were the agents who were going to be specifically
with the president it was the advance team
does that type of of statement resonate with you on the f_b_i_ side weird is
this so you know that the did anything similar to that type of lackadaisical
attitude exist
within the f_b_i_ at all
and not like that and it
and yet yet looking fine i i i can assure you that i would never
i never even heard of situation where
it f_b_i_ agents are personal our staff or
quoting ***
when you're up to you
government agents government personnel are not atomic bombs were not robots in
their off duty to get to do whatever you want to do off-duty
uh... within the constraints of offcourse
i'd but do you still have to show proper judgment you can't happen you know a
f_b_i_ agent or a secret service agent
i forgot popping up in the wild parties in getting caught up drunk
doing stupid things work but orleanians our agency
so let's talk a little bit about the kind of national security concerns we
heard from both members of congress on both sides of the aisle shortly after
this incident broke saying well the real concern here is not prostitutes per se
although that is a concern
but it's that type of these individual certainly
are privy to national security and the information that's of of significant
national security important where the president will be
when he will be arriving what routes will you take it cetera
and that the possibility exists that a *** if she what had those
intentions could maybe uncover some of that information by spending time with
these individuals case in point we now heard from one of the prostitutes are
i guess the *** who was
the one involved in the primary financial altercations saying
the guy that was the whose room she stayed and slept all night he spent
about five hours in the hotel room
if she had wanted to she could certainly have ruffled through his belongings
and takin
any important information he may have had their what's your thought on
up couple points to respond to that
first of all
uh... each secret service agent at top secret security at that means that there
is a level of trust placed on them
to handle attacked and be responsible for information
doing something down like having a
but you come to dream on site certainly was a breach of the trucks
secondly historically and and certainly today one of the most effective methods
of us feeling information is by using what's called a hunter
and that is that is very simply using a very attractive person
uh... primarily females but katelyn melted here
is a uh... it is a woman or some attractive man
uh... but we have been out here
uh... prachi ke very easy
you give them a little bit of training
just sort of what to look for all your there
and uh... i
if in fact the matter is that guy who is in that situation and very relaxed muggy
guarding
um... my taping patient might reveal information shown
and i'm not saying that this is what happened but it certainly possible
that opera cal
another intelligence service
foreign intelligence service but supposed to us
uh... could have hired her used prostitutes
to do something like that
spent with silence or we can say it's it wouldn't be unprecedented to use a
*** to try to get close to someone with this kind of information
u_n_ impacted it happened quite
quality of the best one of the most
uh... common uses aspire bridge
a hunter
okay so then what about the counter to that which would be
these guys are operating in a way where they're not just going to have pieces of
paper which say president obama security detail here's where will stand here is
where the president will walk it center that the information would be either
encrypt did or being carried in some kind of hidden away where somebody just
ruffling through awal it isn't going to come across that information or is that
an unreasonable kind of counterpoint
yeah i can say what they had in the realm is uh... or that there could be
laptops someone local swiping training could can access
uh... orkut copy apart right while the guys twelve misleading offense
close to a new business with the ***
there could be a map with a route
you know that you just
you can't know what was that it could have been tough
uh... but the fact is that there could be something in here it when you are
conducting intelligent opposition and say that this was a handicap where
there's no doubt about rations spot to try and determine
ticket but the way that the president united states moves around
yes good to be an operation that case
you know monster or a year
uh... until you get every little tiny piece you can
you know wendy compliant
intelligence
the president's favorite color that intelligence
you know where they present kids go to school anything that these guys might be
pretty cute because of
what they do in the fact that they have top secret clearance means that they're
pretty quite a bit
any little bit information and a inadvertently left foot
if indeed that's what the situation for these people trained opportunistic
possible problem like they were just prostitutes
sir you back
at a rate they could have been
trained operatives or even poorly trained update soon
to debrief later by trade
uh... you just have to be careful and when you get in a local truckee you just
have to be extra careful
more than a normal normal things
one question i got from a lot of people when we first started talking about the
story and i don't know the answer may be due is whether secret service agents
particularly those that are working on the advance team who were there head of
the president
uh... scouting and preparing making preparations
our days uh... working argv are they open under assumed identities are they
just themselves are they working under some kind of cover i mean do you have a
sense of what would be typical for a secret service advance team
it gently and they're they're there
acting low-key they're not walking around in dark suits with your pieces
and you think you know holding firearms escorted by
local police doing things they want to be low-key day one a ski
uh... areas look like they want to know
where potential areas and sniper could be
but tried to build we need to look down
how they have to change traffic being paid really need to go in occupant
quietly that doesn't mean that they're going in completely undercut
but uh... but usually they're not running rampant they were secret service
to put your just setting up the place to the president channel
and in certain cases is it possible that depending on the perceived
friendliness of the local police in that area that they may not even be revealed
as secret service to local police at least not until
far closer to the president's arrival is that a possible scenario
it's possible that usually you want to you secret service
workable but differently than say the activity and yet
you know you blocked the acceptance of local police otherwise you can run into
trouble land here
abortion people buildings or walking through the link to decide what to wear
the president can't be here determined optimal optimal crazies
to take the president in the case of an emergency
ungli you know you run into police problems when they don't believe it
absolutely we've been speaking with erica o'neill founding partner of the
georgetown group and former f_b_i_ agent
awesome to get your insights on this thanks for being back on with us
thank you
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