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ANNOUNCER: The following is a morning walk conversation with His Divine Grace A. C.
Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, recorded on April 29th, 1974, in Hyderabad, India.
PRABHUPĀDA: Huh? DEVOTEE: They are attracted by wonderful things such as Sai
Baba. He is doing so many wonderful things. People… PRABHUPĀDA: That is, means
rascal. He does not see Kṛṣṇa’s wonderful. If you want to see wonderful things, why don’t you
see the more wonderful things? But they are foolish; they are captivated with small wonderful
things. That means less intelligent. Just like small children, they will be amazed by seeing
small wonderful things, but his father will not be. What is the amazement, wonderful thing, Sai
Baba has done? If he is creator of gold, then why he is doing business of incense? You know
that? He has a big incense business exactly like us. He can create gold? Why there is incense
business? [break] Caitanya Mahāprabhu used to give to His mother some gold when there
was need of money. “Mother, I got this gold. So you can utilize it.” The mother would think that
“We are poor men, we have no gold. Wherefrom this boy brings gold?” So he [she] was doubtful
because he [she] was thinking, “My son is mad, sometimes crazy.” So he [she] would go, “Is it
real gold? Just see.” Then. “Yes, it is real gold.” “Hm, how He got it?” You see. [break] …many yogis,
they make such gold for meeting their expenditures. Yes. Still in India they know how to make
gold from copper. Yes. The process is they will drink mercury at night, and in the morning they
will urine on the copper coins. And then, after some hours, the copper coins taken and put into
the fire, it becomes gold. And it is scientific that some molecules of mercury, if mixed with copper, it
is gold. Gold is combination of mercury and copper. But the people cannot mix it. They have
tried. That is called alchemism. They tried to mix it. Because they do not know the process, as soon
as mercury is put into fire, it immediately goes out. You melt copper, and in hot copper, if you
put mercury, it will not melt together. Immediately it will throw away. So some of the
yogis, they know. They digest copper. Ah yeah—mercury, and it comes in the form, urine. And
then the copper is put there. There is an interaction, and then put into fire. It becomes gold.
GARGAMUNI: So we should start manufacturing. PRABHUPĀDA: You first of all eat
mercury then. [laughter] You’ll be finished. [break] …no scarcity. Why should we go to imitate the
rascals? We have got enough gold. Kṛṣṇa is supplying gold whenever we require. [break]
…artha-prayojanam. Whatever you need, Kṛṣṇa will supply, if you actually remain dependent on
Kṛṣṇa. There are so many literatures of different groups, but who is selling so much? Forty
thousand, fifty thousand daily? Unless Kṛṣṇa is helping us. In the history no religion book have sold
thirty thousand, forty thousand daily. There is no history. So why don’t you see this wonderful
thing? All the money that I have brought from USA, India, it is all book fund. Nobody has given.
George has given. That is not in cash. And he gave that two lakhs. That was spent for Kṛṣṇa Book. So
wherefrom the cash is coming? GARGAMUNI: Sales of books. PRABHUPĀDA: That’s all right.
Because we have got substantial sale of books, we are free to get money. And it is unbelievable that
religious books are sold thirty thousand, forty thousand, fifty thousand daily. There is no
history. GARGAMUNI: So that is a miracle. PRABHUPĀDA: Is it not miracle?
SATSVARŪPA: How one person can sell a hundred Bhāgavatams. Some of those devotees like
Tripurari, a hundred big Bhāgavatams. It’s not a popular book.
PRABHUPĀDA: It is not popular actually. For the common man it is dry subject. And I have heard
that after reading one book, somebody comes to purchase. “What is this, Bhāgavata?” “We
have got six.” “All right, give me six volumes.” He is not a devotee. Why he purchases all the six
volumes of Bhāgavatam? In London our Bhagavad-gītā As It Is was sold in two months, thirty
thousand copies. That is the report. Thirty thousand copies. YADUBARA: Even though they
don’t understand the subject matter, they purchase. PRABHUPĀDA: Yes. Yes. [break]
Bon Mahārāja has written part of Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu. And he published it before my coming to
foreign countries. GARGAMUNI: Yes. He has not sold any.
PRABHUPĀDA: No, he has sold some, but still lying in the store. He published only one thousand
copies. Our Nectar of Devotion, the translation of the same book, is selling like hotcakes. Yes. In the
university, Temple University, they have made a textbook. And everywhere they like it, Nectar of
Devotion. I think… What is our edition at the present moment? Fourth or Fifth edition. And we
don’t publish less than ten thousand copies. So we have to depend on Kṛṣṇa sincerely. Serve
Him, everything, what is required, that will come, some how or other. That is miracle. Why should
we try to cheat others, that “I can manufacture gold”? This rascal, if he can manufacture gold, then
why he is doing himself business? That is simply jugglery. Even the magicians, they can do. They
create so much money. But he is a poor man. Why he remains poor? And everyone thinks of us,
that we have got unlimited wealth. You know that? GARGAMUNI: Yes. In Māyāpura,
when I bring over the karatālas, they are very heavy, two hundred sets of karatālas. So the boatmen
say, “Sona, sona.” They are thinking it is gold, the karatālas. PRABHUPĀDA: Everyone… Even
government… In the parliament the question was raised, “Wherefrom they get money
fabulously?” These men, in our country, they may be fools. In your country also, Los Angeles, I
mean, neighboring storekeepers, they are wonderful, that “These people do not work and they
have got so many cars and live so nicely?” [laughing] They inquire that “How do we get all these
things?” They actually see that they are not ordinary working. They have no working or bank
balance or business. Still, they have got so many cars and they eat nicely and they maintain such
a nice house. And six, seven house they have purchasing. The realtors, they also know in
America that we are very rich men. As soon as there is some property, they offer, because they
know that we are very rich men. Because we have purchased some properties, so all the realtors, they
have taken it for granted that we have got immense money. Here also, the members are thinking
like that, that “Swamiji has got immense money.” MAHĀṀSA: Yes. And he will send
when we want. PRABHUPĀDA: He will pay. You can tell them that “Not a single
farthing here. He can spend elsewhere. [splice] You know the parliamentary question?
GARGAMUNI: Yes. PRABHUPĀDA: Parliament questioned that “These
Americans, they are supposed to be…” What is that? “CIA. CIA.” Is there any information to the
government? “Besides that, they have got fabulous money. They are spending. Wherefrom they
get the money? And if they are CIA, then what steps the government is going to step, take
against them?” So the reply was three. First reply was “The government has no information
that they are CIA people. Therefore the third question doesn’t require to be answered,
what steps? And so far their fabulous money, it is understood they collect by selling their
literature and public contribution.” Yes. Home member replied like this.
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