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Hi it's Dr Nic Lucas from Influence Faculty and I'm excited today to bring you an interview
I've conducted with Jolette Jai. Now Jolette is a parenting coach based in Los Angeles
California. And the reason I sought here out is because she's being very influential with
her particular approach to parenting and coaching parents how to have better relationships with
their children.
And so at the moment she's getting a lot of interest from people all over the world and
have program including doctors who are joining her program to learn how to better equip themselves
with as parents. And also to better equip them so that they can guide their patients
on what is a very very common issue that people experience all about trying to have better
relationship with their children.
So I congratulate you and your commitment to developing better relationships with your
parents or your children. And also you be able to take some insights from this interview
that applied broadly across any area of relationship building and communication. Because one of
the key things that I find people do that gives in their way of being effective influencers
and communicators is really focused just to trying to change the behavior of other people.
And Jolette approach is really quite different to doing that and it explains why the conventional
approach of just trying to force someone else to change their behavior doesn't work in many
cases. So we'll cut straight to the interview you'll see that it's a pretty casual interview.
I think I just got back from the beach when I conducted it because she's hard to track
down being in such high demand at the moment.
So I hope you enjoy the interview I did it for you to bring you these insights and I'll
see you at the end of the interview.
So we're getting straight into it. I've got a series of questions here that are designed
to probe deep into your mind and get you to reflect on what it is. Because people who
are influential often just do what they do and they found a way to be effective on other
people. I'm gonna ask some questions that you can reflect on why it is that you think
you are influential so we can learn about that and --- on our own lives, our own business,
and what we do. So if you could tell us a background story about your role as a parenting
coach, and what you do and how you got into it?
I'd love to. How I got into it..Basically I had a son and he was 2 years old. I was
searching for answers but there's no parenting manual. I really wanted to know when he was
going to tantrums and really hard times what to do. So I went through my own search, my
own education and I found a non-violent parenting class. When I stepped foot on this class Nic
- it was magical. I thought, "Oh my God, this is how you connect with your child!". It wasn't
just to get him to stop crying but to have the crying be OK, and really have him to express
his emotions. I learned this in a completely new way. And so I signed up there to be a
parenting educator and I knew in my heart that this is what I wanted to do and this
is what I really wanted to give to other parents.
When you say non-violent parenting, that speaks for itself. But I guess to spell it out, you
literally there's no smacking, there's no hitting, there's nothing like that and it
really is just a relationship building approach.
Yeah, and the word can be misconstrued because I certainly wasn't hitting my child at that
time and you don't have to be a violent person to go and become non-violent. So non-violent
parenting is basically peaceful parenting and what that means is we see violence as
anything that harms the body, mind, or spirit of a child or another living being. It's a
very broad definition. This is a word, a tone, it doesn't just include smacking, hitting..
It's also bribery, rant, punishment, consequences - there's so many things that fall under that.
You're so right. It's very easy as a parent - even though you love your children so much,
to let fly a sentence or a word that is condescending or patronizing it leaves a mark on them for
a long time, so I understand that. So, how long have you been doing it then? What's your
history with it?
We've been doing this for four years and I've been certifying along with my partner, parenting
coaches, for the past year. We've been certifying people to actually bring this work out into
the world and have their own practices doing it.
So what keeps you passionate doing this?
So much. What keeps me passionate really is my son and looking in his eyes and the relationship
that we have now. Then I get these amazing emails, notes, and letters back from our coaches
and also from the parents. Just receiving these emails and seeing the results that this
work were having in families everyday keeps me going. It's not like I say, "Uh, I got
to do this, let me read an email". It's like an ongoing love and just seeing all that's
happening in families and the connections that we had the other day. You know, we have
coaches who have just saved two marriages through this work. And there's not a point
ever where I'd say "Oh, I want to give this up I can't do this". It's just ongoing and
I feel that the love keeps on growing.
It sounds like from what you said now and what I have been able to read online is that
you really have found something that is bigger than you and is pulling you forward to your
purpose.
Yeah, that's what it feels like.
So tell us, what on an average day would be like for you?
An average day is basically - well my partner is on the East Coast, so she's in New Hampshire
and I wake up first thing and we'll talk. That's the first thing we'd do because she's
been up and working already. And there's really no average day. There's so many different
people we're talking to from all over the world who wanted to be parenting coaches now,
so we might have on the calendar after I got my son to school - we might be talking with
Nirubi, or we might be talking with somebody on Eastern Europe and basically talking with
people who wanted to be parenting coaches. Having these incredible conversations that
are all about what they see, what their vision is for their lives, in their children, or
I'm talking with the parents who wants to change shift to parenting that they're doing,
they're having some problem, and or I'm speaking live or online. That's basically my day, and
it's very varied.
That's exciting in itself. You said that you started this curse 4 years ago. For a lot
of people, you've really struck the jackpot. Because not only do you do something that
you absolutely love doing, but you've actually been successful in it in a relatively short
period of time because you're talking about having what is really a global operation,
you're speaking to people all over. How did that happen? What have you done that has led
to this success so quickly?
I think it's my commitment to the work. And you're saying it pulls you forward - I really
felt that pulling forward all the time. In the first two years I would stay up, I mean
the hours that I put into it were really like from that pull. You know, people needed this
work and I really felt called that I need to bring it out more and more. So I would
put my son to sleep and then I would work until 2 in the morning. So he would go to
bed at 8pm and I would be up working. I am just so passionate about getting it out there
and I think those first two years really planted the seeds that we're seeing the growth now.
So you're certifying people now for a year. So the first three years you're essentially
being the parent coach yourself to other parents and then you started to spread it more further
and be more influential by training other people to do the same thing.
Yes exactly. And it wasn't just me deciding that, it was my partner as well. She's really
skilled at training people have a successful business and she's a business coach. So we
got together and she said, well this is amazing work it's just and I really felt too that
there's so many people to serve. I can't do this alone, we need to put more people out
there. And so she agreed and she said, "Well, but if we're going to put this work out there
we better make sure that they have successful thriving businesses. We don't want people
to come in and just get trained and have a certificate posted on their wall or something
that they just say, 'yeah I did that'." We want this work to be out there and so her
job is that she makes sure that the coaches have really great businesses that are sustainable
and wherever they want to bring this to.
Okay, so again exploring that, essentially what it means to people who do your certification
is that they have not only become different coaches themselves but they've developed a
business out of it which is really fantastic. So how many have been through the training
and have a business now? And are they doing it full-time or is it something they do in
addition to their other work.
Yeah, we have 30 people who have been through it so far. Our latest group, it's very global
- it's a group of 16 people. Their businesses are amazing. Some are doing it part-time,
some are doing it full-time. We have some that are actually in school teaching 200 girls
about self-esteem and their feelings, and using our program and integrating it with
nutrition in the school. Everything from that to somebody having their coaching businesses
on the phone and they're doing it from their home part-time. We have another woman who
has her own office. She goes and sees clients every day. So there's a variety of things
that they're doing now.
Let's talk about the two different kinds of people who get referred to you. Because you've
got parents who got referred to you personally as a coach and then you got other people being
referred to you to be certified. So if we're going to focus on parents for the moment,
when they get referred to you, what are the typical things they say to you? Like what
stories are being told about you by other people? You know, they say "I've been told
to go to you for such and such said what"
Yeah, well I think there's two things that are happening. The first story that we hear
from parents is that I think we're getting referred by doctors and all sorts of people
because we have the results and we're getting the results for parents to connect with their
kids, and actually affect the behavior of the children. Not that we go after the behavior,
but they're really saying, "Wow, I am so connected with my child now and my child would come
to me with anything. They really trust me and they feel safe with me" And that's what
the parents are saying about our work. Our coaches find their purpose.
They find their meaning in life. And they're saying, "Wow, I was searching for something
that I would be able to affect other people's lives". And we have got love notes all the
time from these coaches saying, "Wow, not only am I able to find my purpose but I am
able to do it. You know I'm able to bring in an income". There a lot of these families
with the husband trying to get the most income and he was the bread winner, and now the women
really are stepping up and saying, "This is amazing". So people are really coming to us
because they want to make a difference and because they want to have a sustainable income
for their families.
And this part of the reason why I wanted to interview you because you stood out and found
solutions for your own family, in your own child - and you've just become this really
influential person and it's actually something that's increasing beyond children, towards
actually helping adults find their meaning in their purpose in their lives. It's absolutely
wonderful. So if we just focus on you as a person, what really is it that drives you
right at your core? We've talked about the parenting thing pulling your forward, but
what is it about you that drives you?
Making a difference. I want to leave the world a better place. I know that sounds corny,
but I really do. And I remember, just four years ago I asked that question. You know,
I was about out be forty but "What is it? What am I gonna do? Really, really like just
not do every day, but what do I want to leave here?". Not only for myself, but I know you
must also feel this way Nic, because you're a parent. So right now, we're modeling for
our kids. And they're learning. "Wow, what's dad doing? What's he living for the world
right now?", and I really felt that strongly and I felt that I had the responsibility to
step up on that because I have a son now and that if there is a purpose, a meaning to this
life that's Jolette - I better find it, and you better start doing it and that's what
motivated me every day to do that.
And so, just really quickly then, before that time what were you doing in your prior career,
or life that led you this point?
This is something completely unrelated. I was in the healing arts before and I became
a film maker. So I was actually directing and producing short films - so completely
unrelated.
You see, that's what perfect about it, you're such a great example of the flexibility and
the incredible freedom and opportunity that we have to be able to change direction and
follow what it is that's true to our heart, and by doing that becoming really quite influential
in what we do and the impact that we can have on people is quite dramatic. You're a great
example of that I love the completely changing track. I've done some more things so maybe
I just like the validation so it's good. So, if we get into the nitty-gritty of this approach
to parenting, what is it about this approach that is different from other approaches that
still work or still effective to trying to help children and parenting? What is it about
this approach that is so unique?
Such a good question. I think a lot of approaches are very behavioral. I think that they're
focusing on the behavior of the child and what can we do to change that behavior. There's
a problem here. There's a problem with this behavior. And why are our approaches so effective
is because first of all, we turn the camera 180 degrees on the parent. We look at the
parent and we say, "Okay, what are you doing as a parent?" We barely look at the child,
and when we do look at the child we take the child into account and that's the first thing
that's really different is we focus almost completely on the parent.
And as we're focusing on the parent, we're recognizing that they're certain patterns
were leftovers from the past in the way you were parented. So, if we look at that and
we notice that parents are being triggered all the time from their children. You know,
the child does something that they don't like, and they're angry, they're nervous, or they're
anxious and they're not looking at themselves, saying 'Wow, there's a ton of feelings."
They're just jumping right into and come and hit the child, and they control them, and
argue with them, or whatever it may be. But our process is so effective because we have
the parents look at these difficult feelings and we offer them empathy and say, "Wow, that's
gonna be really tough", "Where did you get that from?"And then we look at what the limiting
beliefs are underneath that they acquired from their past.
And we have a lot of meditations that we do with parents to help them really deeply bring
those limiting beliefs to light and also to be able to shift those limiting beliefs now
so that they have supportive beliefs now that support their parenting and who they are.
Yeah, so it's interesting because the word influence which is why I have been spending
so much of my time working on doing is often described as or affect the change in something
else. And one of the things that I have talked about is that to maximize your influence,
you first have to influence yourself and very often the best influence is people that have
the greatest amount of influence on themselves.
And so that does sound like what you're trying to do yourself is instead of trying to focus
on the child, it's all about focusing on yourself first and getting control of yourself. It
is funny isn't it? because when you do see a parent, or you accidentally lose your temper
with your child about them losing their temper, it's just so hypocritical, right? And you
wonder then where did they learn that from. We know that children have emotions that rush
out of them but still they look to ask for their behavior sometimes.
What would be the typical problems that people really come to you? They don't come along
to you and say, "I need to know about non-violent parenting". They come along to you with the
problem that they're experiencing parenting. Tension is one for yourself and that would
be common for a lot of people. What other types of things do people come to you as their
major problem?
Such a great question. They come with so many different problems. They're frustrated with
their child, they can't connect with their child, their child isn't listening, their
child is not cooperating with them, they're finding their child being disobedient or rebellious.
They just don't know what to do and they're very frustrated. They have no way reaching
their child.
They also come if honest enough to admit this - they say they're hitting their child and
I hate myself. I don't want to do this anymore. My head hits the pillow every night and I
don't feel good about this. I know that it's working on some level, because the child is
listening now but yet there's a deeper thing that's happening that they're feeling awful
about it and they know that it doesn't feel good.
We also get a lot of people saying that the husband or wife, or the co-parents are parenting
differently and it's causing a lot of confusion in their relationship and it's also causing
confusion within the family and how they influence their children - so we also get that too.
I think the thing to bring up there is it's got nothing to do with how much the parent
loves their child. Because there's a lot of parents who love their children incredibly,
but still find it that for whatever reason, they're finding some or all the children difficult
to deal with. And so, you know it's just a question of optimizing our behavior and our
way of thinking so that we can optimize and have the best possible relationship with our
child, and love is what drives them to come and make the change in the first place.
Yes, absolutely.
And so, tell me, what kinds of age groups is most common? Is it mostly toddlers or is
it right through the teenage years that need help?
We help everybody. There's really no age group. We even have grandparents coming to us, saying
we want to have a better relationship with our children. Because now that we're grandparents
we really want to be able to have that closeness not only with our grandchildren but with our
children.
That's really wonderful, because I did made an assumption that it was aimed more at parents
with younger children, but of course we've got children our whole lives and what I was
looking for my kids - I mean, I don't want to keep them small. I can't wait until they're
adults and have an adult relationship with them. You know, as much as I enjoy them right
now it's just a natural process I think to enjoy every moment of it , and I think it's
so important if you want that adult relationship with your kids it has to start now - it just
has to.
Well, a while back when I was still in practice as a healthcare professional myself, it was
a Saturday morning and there's this gentleman coming in for treatment with two teenage girls
with him. They're both holding hands and I said in murmur while he entered the treatment
(it was about 40 minutes) and I thought it was odd because it wasn't something that typically
happen. You know, a parent and especially teenage girls sat and just happily wait with
him in the waiting room. And so I brought it up with him. And he just said, "Look, they
just love coming everywhere with us.
We go out for dinner, they'd rather come with us than with their friends a lot of the time".
And he said, "I'm at a choice when I was in my late 20's not to keep buying fancy cars
or the next fancy house. We decided to stay in a 3-bedroom townhouse so I didn't have
to work so hard so I can invest my life in my daughters.
So that's how I got the relationship that I have with them now whereas, a lot of their
friends doesn't spend a lot of time with their parents at all." That was something that I
aspired to already. I didn't have kids at that time but that one moment really stuck
in my mind as a great example. So he had an influence on me.
You know, so many people had been talking about the teenage years as such dread. Can
you give me an example of a parent with a teenage child issue and what kind of solution
they might have from your approach with them?
I want to say that I really love that example you just gave. It's so beautiful 'coz I really
think that "the greatest gift you can give your child is your presence". And hearing
over and over again just about how children really thrive on that presence - it's all
they want. They don't want the fancy stuff. I mean, they say they do, but really if you
just spend some quality time with your child - that's just gold.
I can see this too, because we're coaching adults. Every adult is deeply affected by
the relationship that they have with their mom or dad. All these patterns are carried
on to generations. So, if they felt abandoned or neglected in any way, then definitely they're
carrying that in them and not feeling loved and they're reacting from that. It's such
an amazing relationship that we have and an opportunity to create that relationship with
their own children.
Just give an example of one that gives us an insight into how does this works for teenagers.
Because again, the typical thing you hear is you know in Australia this weekend's newspaper
there's news about teenage binge drinking has doubled over the last 10 years in terms
of teenagers being brought to the hospital for binge drinking.
There's increased shooting in Australia, which something really foreign to us because we
are an anti-gun country and it's interesting for us to experience that and a lot of the
time it's teenagers involved. So what's the kind of example that you've got about how
this works?
Well I can give you one example. We have a client that I've been working for over a year
with her teenage son. And at some point, he's got a lot of anger just like what other teenagers
do and he was even taking knives out of the kitchen. You know, he's cutting himself with
the knife. So, in working with her we really want to have the child feel safe in a safe
environment. It really matters how the parents feel about their feelings and how they can
express their feelings to deal with their own feelings, and then offering that kind
of empathy to the child. And it sounds very simple, but there's a lot in that.
There's actually a lot to have the parent see that kind of behavior and be able to calm
the child down enough that they feel safe and they'll share their feelings. They think
that there's so much defensive feelings -- especially with teenagers, that we're not providing the
space all the time. We're really trying to control the behavior and try to get them do
certain things and not do certain things. And so we're missing a whole step with empathy.
This is going to sound very broad, but we open the doors to having an empathetic conversation
and having chosen to feel okay, feeling the way that they're feeling, giving them the
space and let them know that whatever they're feeling is okay.
In any type of situation that you're trying to influence someone -- whether it's a parent
trying to influence the child, manager trying to influence his staff member, a salesperson
trying to influence his potential customer. As soon as the person realizes that we're
trying to influence them then all the critical thinking comes up and the emotion comes up
to push that and insist against that. And one of the things that we say is that tactic
is not working anymore.
And so parents or anyone who's trying to influence someone else, and they're aware of what you're
trying to do -- what you're doing is becoming completely ineffective. And so, I can really
see that if you are just trying to manipulate someone and you are doing it on a daily basis,
they get to know all your ways and they just ... so if the parent actually stops to try
and manipulate the child and the child witnesses that, and sees the parent trying to work on
themselves instead, it's almost like poor marketing. Instead of pushing away the whole
thing around, the child stops feeling that someone's trying to process them. Is that
a reasonable description at the surface level?
Yeah, the child starts to see the parent as human, and the parent has feelings. And, you
know, from that humanity, it feels safer to express their feelings and be connected with
each other. Once they feel that safety, then it's ok. It's like, "Look, I've felt like
that before. I felt miserable. I felt like, pissed and being bullied. They've felt those
feelings before and I totally get where you're coming from and what it's like for you." So
yeah, they really get bonded with that.
So, what do you think is wrong and ineffective with the other specific parenting approaches?
I think the most ineffective is that they're looking for behavior as I've mentioned before.
And this is the most painful question, this is the most painful thing I see for parents
-- is that they are saying in their minds it should be a certain way, it should be this
way, and it should not be this way, and then they're causing a lot of pain for themselves
-- and they're acting from that pain. That's the number one thing that I see, "My child
should not be doing that thing right now. My child should be doing something else.",
or "My child should be doing this right now and they're not doing it."
So they're looking at the behavior and they're putting some kind of a qualifier. Things like,
"It should be a certain way and it's not. And I don't understand why it's not. Let's
do something about this behavior, right now." So then we get into this whole cycle of "Okay,
we're going to change this behavior. What can we do to affect the behavior?" when really,
there's a more deeper thing that is going on and we need to look into that deeper thing,
And I think what people are not doing when they are just looking for the behavior is
that they're not looking at the deeper issue. They're not looking, and maybe they don't
want to look.
They want to avoid it. They don't want to really see what's there. And I think it's
a very enlightening thing for us as a parent to actually look at what does the child need?
Why is this happening? You know, we say that every behavior is just the child's attempt
to get a need met. So what is the need? Why is the child doing those things? What is he
really needing? So, to turn it around and look at it like this -- then we have empathy.
"Wow, now I get it." Now we can really open up and communicate with that child. Instead
of just, "You better do something about that behavior of yours! Change it!"
And so do you find that parents actually have to learn new skills when they come and see
you that in order for them to actually do what you recommend. Did they have to actually
learn new skills?
I think more than learning new skills, they have to learn a new way of being with their
child. And I don't know if it's per se we do have skill training and we do train certain
skills that before that it's just the complete shift of mindset so that you're not controlling
over your child anymore you're just having a relationship with your child. And it's very
different for parents.
Yeah ok. So when a parent and I've got trouble with a child and I'm going to Google because
I'm looking for a solution or I go for instance to Amazon because I figure I'm gonna buy a
book and read about the solution and also the book stand that they're gonna come across
related to trying to change the child's behavior is that again a common thing that's in the
books that they going to read?
Yeah depending on what you're talking about but yes it is a very..Yes
Yeah and it's still so behavior focus which makes sense because you want to try and mold
the behavior of someone else but the whole key thing is inserting a deep look at yourself
and what you are doing to contribute at the situation at first
Yes
So, what are the kinds of objections or things that people come up with, if they come across
what you're doing what would be a typical reason for why they don't and go ahead and
do the training or take on board what you're suggesting, what do you see as a bit of a
pattern there?
We hear one very funny question or one statement normally if somebody is opposed to the training
or opposed to this way of parenting they will say, "You know I was hit as a child and I'm
fine. What's the problem here I came out fine like why would I need to shift this?" and
we say well and then we really talk about the brain we talk about a lot of our training
is based on brain research and brain science and what's happening in the brain and where
we seeing where we could see now in older children adults and where their brain pattern
is and what happened from the way they were parented so we talk about the brain and you
know we share some of that with them and if they want to continue on with that kind of
parenting then ok but that's you know that's what they say if they are opposed.
And so that would be one of the most common ones, is around the hitting?
Yes one of the most common ones is around the hitting. It's funny Nic, and I don't say
in a boastful way. People don't come to us opposing the parenting they're coming to us
really like everyone that comes really is on their last someone like their last like
they really need to know what to do they're really strained, they're stressed out and
they really want to know what to do as a parent. And they've done some of this other approaches.
So I guess with this one, they come to you looking for help definitely but then when
they come to you they discovered that your gonna talk about them and not their kid and
that's the point where they have to go and actually am I prepared to admit my role in
this and do you get objections in that particular point or resistance...
Never
Because again no one wants to be wrong
No one likes to be wrong but this is why I don't think we get objection because everyone
has a hurt child within them and everyone has their story of what happened in their
childhood. And it doesn't mean that something terrible happened. But it does mean that you
have some feelings still left over from the way you were parented and everyone wants to
talk about it. And when you provide when we provide the safe environment we say, "It's
ok it's just what happened."
Then they feel very safe and they feel nurtured and for now they want to talk about themselves
and they want to really explore ok what's happening with me and that's really we explain
to them naturally the first step. And so we don't really get any opposition during that
time and we never hear about it.
And so how do people find that more about what you do and from a parenting point of
view. So they're parent with a child and they're like to learn a little bit of relationship
with you first of all and if they're also interested in finding about the coaching that
you offer how do they find about those things?
Yes they could go to our website which is transformationalparenting.org and they could
find both of these programs there, there are audios they can listen to, to find out more
about our coach training program and they could fill out an application if they do want
to apply and they could also find out about our parenting program there as well.
And so how does it work? Is it like do you have to be local, is it a face to face thing
or is it coaching that you provide, this is the parents by the way, and not people who
want to be coaches, the parents is it something you can do over the internet or by phone is
that the way it works?
Yes what we've done is we develop a program that's a 40 day program and this program is
all online so once you purchase it, you download it. And you get a download everyday for forty
days. And the reason why I created that program is I was really curious Nic if if we could
affect transformation in families without me being there.
Because so I thought ok how can we deliver this program to people in Australia actually
we have a lot of people in Australia, New Zealand and all over wanting it so we develop
this program so when people purchase it they get those 40 day download of the program and
they go to 8 parenting classes and 40 days of meditations.
I relate to that so much because as a health professional you're very often working with
one person at a time in a constrained environment and as much as you can be very transformative
to people I became so aware of the greater need and how much leverage the internet gives
us to be able to help far more people one at a time and so for those of us who actually
do wanna break out and help more than one person at a time the internet provides a really
obvious way to be able to do that and to go ahead.
I mean, you know some people listing to it - it's not something you can just click a
thing and you got a forty day program you develop that means that Jolette has spent
a lot of time and effort and thought to put into creating something that actually goes
in 40 days and to begin grab results from it. It's a really fantastic thing and it takes
a certain type of person to have the guts really to go ahead and put that investment
to create that program.
So again you only do things at this because you're so pulled forward and passionate about
what you wanna achieve in people's lives and living this whole place a better place. So
I think that's fantastic you've done that. And so with the coaching program as well - again
is that a similar thing or is that an online program that people can do?
Yes the coaching program is a little bit different because it's a 9-month program and they are
getting a lot of their material online but we're with them. So we're with them every
2 weeks we do a lot of role playing, a lot of modeling of the coaching and then so we're
really walking them to the process because we wanna make sure that they're able to not
only get the process but be able to coach it for others. So that's a very big part of
our community we call them our family. And they're in our family as coaches and we're
really dive deep with our coaches. So we have a lot of fun together.
you need to as well I really like the fact that you're business partner is there to help
them actually to have a successful business because it's easy to train people like you
say it's another thing entirely to help them have successful coaching practices. What some
examples of coaches that you have trained, you have become certified, do they now doing
this as a fulltime thing, how have they gone about establishing they're business, how do
they go about finding parents who need their help and so that they can help them?
Yah we actually have one coach Linda she's great and she couple of days ago she contracted
with, so we have our coaches being out in their communities. So their talking with yoga
studios, their talking with birthing places, their talking with you know different places
in the community that would really need their service, would really need parents coaching.
And she just contracted with the midwife thing.
It's in Portland Oregon where she's gonna be leading classes every week for 10 months.
To lead these parenting classes for new moms, for people. This community is really exciting
because I believe that if we can affect the doula and midwifing communities then we can
really help parents before they're a parent.
You know and they can have all of this information so that they don't need to go through this
what I wanna do...you know when your child is already two or older. So she's just working
with the studio now and she's gonna be out there teaching this process and then she also
have private clients of her own.
Fantastic, well done I mean we haven't known each other that long but everything that I've
seen about you just oozes authenticity and such a care and desire to help people and
especially parents and as I think I said to you on facebook once I'm slightly jealous
because and I never thought I'd say that because I remember you know, I was married for 10
years before we have children and I was very ambitious and I was like I like going out
and I did hear other dads who was saying things like "I work late at the office now so I don't
have to get home for the crying" all those sort of stuff and I remember that having impact
on me and thinking now I'm not sure I want kids and of course it's just the hell thing,
I had a transformation as soon as they get born and you know I'm such a better person
now myself because of being a parent and that's not to say that people who don't have a children
don't become fantastic people, I just know that by having a child I've been put in circumstances
were I have to really dig deep and change my behavior and take the call and look at
myself.
Yeah
And I love it so fantastic. I think you're doing an absolutely wonderful job I'm so pleased
to admit you in here and what you doing and anything I can do to help spread your message
and help anyone else at all who would like to become involved with you I will do it so
thanks for your time.
Thank you Nic
And can't wait to hear and see how all it all progresses.
Thank you so much it's such a pleasure being with you and such an affinity for Australia
so we talk a lot of Australia now those going on so it's wonderful actually talking with
you and being here with you so thank you.
Well great congratulations you've made to the interview and I really hope you took down
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