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Jazak Allah, ladies and gentleman on your behalf, I first thank Mr. Mohammad Shaikh
for delivering his enlightening talk. Now coming on to the question and answer session
I would highlight a few principles for that, we have two mikes one is on the left and the
other is on the right. This one is basically to be used by ladies and the one on the right
is for the gentlemen. Please make a queue and on your turn when you come to the mike,
tell us your name and simply read out the question which should be relevant to the subject.
Please do not indulge in any long, unnecessary sentences which in other words will be a wastage
of time. Please simply tell us your name and your question and once you have got the answer,
you should go back to your place or if you have another question to ask you will still
be required to go back to your place and come in the queue again for your second question,
so that at least every body standing in the queue gets the first question answered. If
you want I can repeat the procedure. Is it clear? Right then I would request you one
more thing and that is when you come in the queue please try and give the chance to the
ladies to ask the question first and in the queue of the gentleman or the ladies whoever
is the older, please give him or her the chance first. Now please pay attention to the questions
and the answers.
My name is Younus Shaikh. I have a question very important one. I think a few friends
of mine they may have the same question in mind. Well when you have explained that this
physical demonstration of slaughter or sacrifice was not there, but what would be the significance
of the sacrifice we offer on Hajj and Eid Baqr. What would be the significance of it.
Is this practice of ours is non-islamic or islam does not call for it.
God of the Bible has asked Abraham to slaughter his son and for redemption the goat came.
That is a biblical concept. So the question is why are we offering a goat in the Baqar
Eid.
Muslim ummah offering this sacrifice as sunnat-e-ibraheem.
So now the answer to that is in surah al-Baqarah 2 and the ayah is 196. If you want to look
at the Quran I will read for you. in Arabic hadiya means gift, and fidya means
I told you redemption, it carries the meaning of redeem or ransom. So if we are not able
to perform the Hajj or people who go there Hajj they give hadiya, that is a gift to Allah.
Are you following, a gift that is not sacrificing a goat for my sacrifice. That is not a sacrifice
for my life I sacrifice a goat, not like that. It is a gift, hadiya in Arabic for offering
when you go there and if you are not able to go there you offer a hadiya here. So slaughtering
of animal is correct in the Muslim world if they are giving a gift to Allah. Not as a
sacrifice in the goat instead of his life because he has to perform what Allah has said.
What Allah has said in the Quran I recite these ayaats you have to perform that, but
you can also give hadiya in hajj also and if you are not going there you could give
this hadiya. Another ayat I refer to is in Quran in surah hajj
so in hajj when we perform that Allah say you slaughter the animals is in the Quran
but not for your sacrifices. Instead of you you are sacrificing not like that. But Allah
says you offer for what purpose which he has provided for them, then feed the distress
ones in the want. poor people. This whole system you have to provide the nourishment
to them. That is why you are doing it, not instead of your sacrifice in life, you are
sacrificing the goat. The goat will not take you to heaven.
I did not get this ayat number, surah hajj.
Surah Al-Hajj and ayah 28. and in the same ayat if you continue in
It is not your blood, Allah says that you provide blood and meat you are sending to
Allah, it is your taqwa, as an offer you are giving as a gift to Allah which Quran has
mentioned. So this is the system is being prevailed in Makkah, in Madina and in all
over the world that you can offer as a gift or as a hadiya sacrifice these things, but
not for you sacrificing your life, that you have to do. You cannot fidya that. You cannot
do this. A hadya and a fidya there is a word in distinction in Arabic, fidya is that you
can replace but not hadya, hadya is you have to gift an offer.
What I understand from your explanation is the Allah wants to elevate our spirit of taqwa
and we should offer this as the spirit of sacrifice.
That you have to perform yourself.
That we have to perform ourselves. This is an offering with that spirit of taqwa and
thereby may be Allah s..w.t. would elevate our spirit of iman to continue.
No no just a minute that has nothing to do with your spirit. You have to perform what
Allah has told you and the hadiya you are just giving as a gift like I like you, I appreciate
you, I give you a gift.
In the spirit of submission.
Allah has asked to give your giving to the poors to feed the poors.
No what I want to know is this concept of gift that you are talking about. My name is
Ali. Now what I want to know is this concept of gift that you are talking about. Is it
like a gift towards AllahÖÖ.to AllahÖÖNo but see the meat should go to feed the poor
that stress the need alike. So in a way what you are doing over here is to sort of sacrifice
in the name of Allah, but it should go towards the poor, right. Okay that was one of the
questions that I wanted to know that this gentleman before me had already asked. Now
another one is I donít know if it is quite relevant to the topic or not. But remember
the time when you were referring to the Bible and you said that according to the biblical
faith Hazrat Ibraheem had married bibi Sara and according to this biblical woe, she was
his sister?
Yes.
So that means what they are trying to say is Hazrat Ibraheem had committed an incestuous
act by marrying his sister.
That you have to ask to a Christian.
Assalam o alaikum. My name is Bozai. I think one of the questions had already been asked
but a portion of that still remains to be answered before that my first question was
as I wrote here surah baqarah ayah 124; trial with words. Hazrat Ibraheem was tried, as
you said it trial with words. Could you possibly explain this, that his trial was made probably
with practical aspects of practical actions or may be asking by performing certain things.
Now here you mentioned trial with words. Have I been able to clear to you.
By Allahís words he tried.
You see the word mumtahin was mentioned, I think.
No, no kalimat are the words. The ayat says Allah tries people by his words. Whatever
the Quranic ayaats are the words of Allah he sends a message through his words, his
words, and if you understand or you practice or donít practice after listening to the
words you are being tried by Allah. Similarly Allah tried Ibraheem A.S. with his words,
with words. And if he understood and he practiced and he passed the exams according to Allah
status he completed them so Allah made him the imam for mankind.
Exactly. Now I understood that correctly, but for my own sake, my own knowledge sake,
I would like to know what exactly those examinations were.
Everything which is in the Quran with him is being tried all the time. Few examples
I have given you.
Now the half portion of my question which I just earlier on mentioned one was the qurbani
which you have already answered. There is another one circumcision. Is it also maslak
of Ibraheem.
No, the Quran I just read this once because I was delivering a lecture on Quran of course
I am comparing but this was a very, because the bible specifically says it is a covenant
between Abraham and his sons and altogether. So this is mentioned in the bible. It is not
mentioned in the Quran at all. Because the Jew thinks, a Jew, if you go to Jerusalem,
and if you ask the Jew he will not take you as a Jew first of all. If he takes you as
a second class Jew and he will ask you to be circumcised, to become a Jew, you have
to be circumcised that is the practice by the Jews as a religion. As a religion the
Jews are practicing you have to be circumcised because the Bible says that some of the Christians
do not do it, but the orthodox Christian still practice that so this is a jewish and a Christian
practice but at the same time when these Jews and Christian became Muslims by labels by
just labels Muslims they carry out this practice and still today some of the people are still
practicing. This is not Islamic, nothing has to do with Quran at all. This is my answer.
That has nothing to do with Quran at all. To be a Muslim I explained, you have to ask
[Arabic text] O our Lord make us Muslim in your sight. This is very easy that if you
think that you are being circumcised you become a Jew that is what the Jews think like that
we have performed the circumcision and we are Jew.
Thank you very much.
Assalam-o-alaikum. My name is Mohammad Yafa. My question I beg to refer to circumcision.
The circumcision that old man first mentioned. According to what you said that there is nothing
about circumcision mentioned in the Quran.
Yes.
The prophet s.a.w. was sent to explain to us what the Quran is and in one of the hadees
of the prophet, he says there are 10 things that are among the fitra. Fitra is I mean
habitual things that a Muslim must do and one of them is cleaning the arm pit leaving
the beard, shaving the moustaches and among them is circumcision. So if at all circumcision
is a Jewish practice then why, I mean, do we still follow it and why do all the Muslims
I mean still follow it.
actually you are asking a question also and you are explaining this thing that why the
Muslim community is doing it. I told you that the Jews and Christian who were in the earlier
stages were Jews and Christian they were doing circumcision because of the Bible because
the law was in the Bible, when the became Muslims as a tradition they still kept this
on. That does not mean this is Islamic practice.
As for them but what about we who we are not Jews before.
I am not talking about a Jew, you are a Jew or not. I am talking about the Jews who are
practicing this is as religious. If you look up at the dictionary they will tell you in
the dictionary for circumcision as a jewish practice and Muslim practice. So now I am
a Muslim, I do not found any ayat in the Quran which tells us that if you want to be a Muslim,
you have to have been circumcised in clear terms. The covenant was that we covenanted
with we covenanted with Ibraheem and ismail that you have to purify my house for those
who compass round or those who go round who intent upon who stand and bow and prostrate.
This was the covenant. We were Muslims to be a Muslim, we have to say we all read it.
That is how we are trying to be Muslim in the sight of Allah, but it is very easy if
I ask my child to be circumcised and I get the certificate of a Muslim. So I am trying
to educate this is a jewish practice in the bible and the Jews are doing it. I am telling
you they are becoming Muslims, the Jews are becoming Muslims but still carrying this system.
Now Quran does not say this so I am saying it is not Islamic practice, it is a tradition,
cultural or even the African people do it, the Red Indians do it and the other people
also do it. so we cannot say this is Islamic this is a culture system, cultural traditional,
but the Jews are doing it for the religion because it is contained in the bible.
My name is Sarfaraz Khan. Sir you have just slightly touched the concept of redemption
in Christianity. Let me please know what is the difference between remediation and the
shafaat in islam. Is there any resemblance.
No shafaat is another word and fidya, redeem or redemption is two different words. Now
what is the question.
The thing is that you have said Christ p.b.u.h. as redeemed for hisÖ.
That is a Christian belief that as a God or son of God, he has taken the sins of mankind
because he is God or Son of God, that is why he is taking the sins of mankind and giving
his life, he is offering his life, father, the God, astaghfirullah, Father the God is
sending his son Jesus Christ for the redemption of the sins of mankind. So he was crucified
on the cross taking all the sins of people. He has redeemed mankind, so now you Christians
have nothing to do with it. So this kind of system it is killing of the slaughtering of
the children, that is Quran says that you are putting clothes on the religion, your
own concepts. So this is redemption actually you have to give your life, this life which
is given to you, it is the property of Allah. He will take it back. He expects you to do
something, do not something to what he is telling you to do. So if you will practice
that anyhow you have to die in any case, so you have to do what he wants, so when you
do what he wants, then you will be redeemed from the sins and from the punishment of the
fire on the last day. So nobody is going to do anything for you on that day. So that is
how you have to redeem yourself what Ibrahim A.S. showed us how did he did it. Thank you
very much.
My name is Mohammad. I am referring to the first ayat quoted in this It is my question
is this the first ayat which is revealed to the, is this the first ayah speaking about
the prophethood of Ibrahim. Information that he is the prophet.
No this is not the first ayat. No, no, he after going through the trial, he was when
he completed those trial Allah made him the imam, the leader for mankind. All mankind
of all time, but not the first ayaat. First in the Quran he was gone through trials. According
to Quran he was a person, he was a man, and then he went to certain trials with Allah
put him on different trials, when he completed those trial Allah made him the imam, not before.
We believe that Ibraheem is a prophetÖÖYesÖÖIt is not the first ayah.
No.
My name is Ghayoor Khan and I was really rather enchanted to hear your lecture. I would like
to make a thing very clear to me I mean not to the whole public. You made a very good
comparative study of the Bible plus the Quran, the controversial matter grew up about circumcision.
Now you say the criterion is QuranÖYesÖ..The Quran says Now would you clarify the exact
position of circumcision in Islam on the Muslims.
NowÖ.youÖ.I donít know what youÖ.you said what do you mean by this.
The Quran says [Arabic text]
Brother Mohammad Shaikh: No Quran does not say these two words anywhere in the whole
Quran. There is a big ayaat and these are two words from the Quran outside of the context.
No where in the whole Quran. It is an ayah which contains these two wordsÖ rightÖ so
that is not an ayah. This is not an ayah is not an ayah. These are two words. Atee means
to follow Allah, and follow messenger. These are two words. Now what is your question,
I gave you an answer previous gentleman also that circumcision is not mentioned in the
Quran. You understand what I say. And I told you also that we cannot be Muslims until Allah
make us Muslims. O our Lord make us Muslims for you. For you means if you are willing
to make me a Muslim in the sight of Allah so you must know that is the status that you
have to follow. You donít think that if you have done this act, is the Muslim state is
Islamic. Circumcision is not mentioned in the Quran. You have to follow what Ibraheem
A.S. and Ismail A.S. said. [Arabic text] and raise up a nation who will be Muslim for you
not Muslim to each other ideologies, submitting to other peopleís ideologies. So if I say
yes this is Muslim to Bible.
The question still lies there. The position is, is this a tradition in Muslims or it has
anything to do with the religion. It has nothing to do with the religionÖ..thank
you very much.
My question is that you have explained the Quranic ayaats and you have translated well
and you have also given a very goodÖ..
Would you please just ask you question straight away because we are short of time.
Right. My question is that you have not given the political and psychological situations
of their minds of the Jews and the Christianity while exploiting the life of Ismail and changing
the place of the slaughtering andÖ. Yeah actually I am not here to educate the
people about the Jewhish religion. I am educating from the Quran what is the status of Ibrahim
A.S. and ismail A.S. and Ishaaq A.S. but these names are also having a similar understanding
in the Bible. So I am trying to educate the Quran says this about the prophets and this
is a reference in the Bible just to educate you it is in the Bible. So you have to amend
our lives by the Quran.
But Quran has come after the Bible and if they have changed the lines of the Bible,
the Quran has come after the Bible.
Who told you this. Who told you that Quran came after the Bible.
No because revelation of the Quran on our prophet has come after Bible.
You see the Quran is the word of Allah, and this word of Allah was existing in all times,
a guidance for mankind, Ramazan is the month in which the Quran was sent down. guidance
for all mankind, am I reading the Quranic ayaat. so my question to you mankind exist
from what times. From all time. So the Quran was sent down Ramazan is the month in which
the Quran was sent down guidance for all mankind. So mankind the Quran was there for you guidanceÖ..thank
you very muchÖ..and the Bible is not the word of God that it came and Quran came after
the Bible.
My name is Mukhayyar. Since I was listening the lecture a point was confusing. You were
min give you know mix up, you are mixing two communities with each other. The Jewish and
the Christians. Jewish has his own background, religion background as well as historical
background, messenger, it also a revealed community,Ö..whoÖ..jewish.
I do not understand what you are saying.
What is you name, what did you say.
My name is Mukhayyar.
No, no I donít understand, revealed community what do you mean by this.
Revealed community means it is also a book, the community has its own book, torat, and
Hazrat Moosa is his messenger. Right sir. Both communities has its own background, but
you are just highlighting both communities in the same platform. That is my first question.
You see this is the Bible. Holy BibleÖ. This is the Holy Bible and I did not print this.
If you open this you will see the index and in the index if I read it will be Genesis,
Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua and on and on. You see this says Holy Bible
here and if you read all the text inside you will never find the word Torah in this. You
will never ever find the word torah in the text. Neither injeel. Because these two words
occurred in the Quran. This is in the Quran. Nowhere in the whole
Bible three thousand versions of the Bible no where you will find the word torah in the
Bible neither injeel in the Bible. So now you are telling us this is the revealed book.
It is a Holy Bible and all these GenesisÖ nowhere it says torat injeel, so you must
open eyes and read first does it say torat in the whole Bible, does it say injeel, so
if they are not the torah, it is the Muslim community of all times, who have been holding
this Quran with an attributes above of 30 attributes which contains the word torah,
which contains the word injeel, which contains the word furqan, which contains the word burhan,
which contains the word burhan, which contains the word sultan, which contains the word sultan,
which contains the word hikmah. Are there many books around the world, there is only
one book of Allah with above 30 attributes of the book. Like Allah is one with 99 attributes,
but there are not 99 Gods, Allah. So this book of Allah is one book with an above 30
attributes, so these attributes are contained in the Al-Quran, Quran means reading, Al-Kitab
means the written one, hikmat means wisdom, torah means law. They are separate by self
but altogether is the book of Allah, this book and no where this has beenÖ.Allah says
people write the books with their own hands and then they say this is from Allah. This
is the status of the Bible and you peopleÖ I mean not youÖ I am talking about those
people who think this is the word of Allah, that is a wrong concept altogetherÖ.thank
you.
My name is Yousuf Zai. Referring to ayat #102 of saffat Here if you see that whenever a
prophet p.b.u.h. whatsoever he sees in his dream is actual wahi, it is a type of wahi
for all the prophets. Secondly in Arabic when it says whatsoever you have seen in your dream
or whatsoever you have been ordered you do that practically. as well as my knowledge
is concerned means doing something practical. What is your opinion regarding ayaats with
reference to Arabic grammar.
No I give a lecture, you were present in the lectureÖyesÖ.. I explained everything what
Ismail A.S. and Ibraheem A.S. did for that dream. So I am not a person to juggle with
the words. The translation is there, you tell me where the translation is wrong or where
the grammar is wrong. The You do what you are orderedÖ..You doÖ you do practicallyÖ.faal
means in arabic doing anything practicallyÖ. So practically they did. They did not do it
mentally, they practically came to Masjid Haram and they do this dua and laid the foundation.
They practically did it.
You also confess that I see practically slaughtering you in the dream and he further says what
is your opinion about that. He says you do that whatsoever you have seen in your dream.
In his dream he saw that he was slaughtering the son.
But did he slaughter the sonÖ.no he didnítÖso that means what is the purpose of dreamÖ.No
no excuse meÖ.you want to argue, so I am asking a question if he did not slaughter
the son physically that means he did not perform what Allah ordered him. You have to give me
an answer, when he was ordered to slaughter the son, he did not slaughter. Now Allah says
that instead of he was redeemed with a great sacrifice. Instead of slaughtering the son,
he was redeemed with a great sacrifice. What sacrifice did he offer. He himself Ibraheem
A.S. that he was redeemed for that. Until and unless Allah redeemed him that he was
redeemed meaning that he instead of a physical slaughter he was redeemed to perform what
I explained in the whole lecture. Instead of physical slaughter Allah redeemed him.
To do all this.. this all lecture. Secondly this page 7 you have translated here
that was being elevated for the front. Well another meaning of the same verse is by Abdullah
Yousuf Ali laid him on his forehead. That means not elevated but his forehead was down
below.
You know ArabicÖ.yesÖ.what is the meaning of means down. Which dictionary? I brought
these dictionaries. Can you open this. You know the Arabic language, you tell me from
these dictionaries, I brought six dictionaries here, from any dictionary you pick up your
choice and say means laying down. Abdullah Yousuf Ali has translated the word laying
down. I brought the dictionaries from Al-Azhar. These dictionaries are brought here for the
purpose you know Arabic language. where does laying down in the dictionaries. It is not
a debate. I brought a proof for easy toÖshow it to this person.. in Arabic means elevation.
It is a noun and you claiming that you know Arabic language. This is Al-Azhar. There are
other dictionaries as well. Any dictionary you can choose.
The same bookÖ.okay I confess that..
What I am trying to say it is not the debate on words. What is the spirit. when they both
submitted, and Ismail A.S. was raised for the front and that is the dua of Ibraheem
A.S. O my Lord give me from the righteous one when he is asking Allah to give a saleh
child to slaughter or that like imam as he has taken. He has been stationed as a status
of imam, he is asking a son to be like him, so why would he ask a son to slaughter. No,
no. It is that Allah says when they both submitted, and ismail A.S. was raised for the front,
for imam. And we can both them purify my house for those who go round, who do intent upon,
who are doing prostrating and bowing. This they are in front of us. Both of us. If all
the Muslim world in the Quran they are in the front. So this is how he was elevated
not put on the ground for a slaughter.
If you have a question or you want to know the details you can come over and talk to
Mr. Shaikh at the Islamic Propagation Centre. We are short of time I would like you to give
the time to some other people also.
I have another question being here for the second time about Hazrat Bibi Hajra running
between the two mountains, safa and marwah and then the spring, the aab-e-zam zam that
she was while she placed her son hazrat Ismail A.S. in the bush and then she started running
between safa and marwah and today we perform that safa and marwah running between as sunnat
bibi hajra. What is the significance to this from the Quran.
You see I gave this quotation in the booklet. I knew this questionÖ. This is bibleÖ.yesÖ..biblical
quotationÖ.If you read in the Bible if you want to read. If you read in the Bible I continue
that biblical text. His question is we run between safa and marwah, what is the significance
while we run between safa and marwarhÖÖ..it is the sunnat of bibi hajraÖÖ.Just a minute.
It is in the Bible. After I am reading for the further word it ends thereÖ
This context text is to be found in the Bible, not to be found in the Quran, but what does
the Quran says for safa and marwah is also mentioned in the Quran in surah al-baqarah
and marwah are the symbols of Allah, there is nothing wrong in it if you run between
safa and marwah Excuse me the point is Quran is speaking of
safa and marwah and telling you to perform that act, is not that enough, is it not that
enough that Allah says it is the symbols of Allah you perform that. You donít have to
bring a biblical story to it and say that you have to follow that. See the problem is
Allah is saying you these are the symbols of Allah, in of the lectures on Kaíaba and
Qibla I explained these ayaats that among the safa and marwah I have been there, do
you find the kaaba is near that sacred valley and between those two is these two mountains.
So they are the symbols of Allah recognize where the kaaba is situated between a sacred
valley where nothing grows. So these are the symbols of Allah and if we perform our hajj
and umrah we can run between those mountains and we do not require any story to it. The
Quranic Ibrahim A.S. and his wife and his sons all, and all the Muslims of all times
are performing and running between these two mountains as an order from Allah. Not a Biblical
story to it. thank you.
and then that story ends there.
My name is Dr. Azhar Hussain. I have a question related to the dream of Hazrat Ibraheem A.S.
According to latest researchers and various experiments parapsychologist have come to
this conclusion that dreams are basically the images which we see in our life and that
gets stuck to our subconscious and then when we sleep and our subconscious takes over our
conscious these pictures which are produced are called dreams. So what you have to say
in this context, how would you justify the dream of Hazrat Ibraheem A.S. and what Hazrat
Ibraheem A.S. did was the instant playback of his dream and can you rely on a person
who saw a thing when he is unconscious while he is sleeping. How would you justify act
of a person which he sees when he is unconscious.
Okay your question is basically about the dream and you have also mentioned some science
doing research on the dreams. But what you see it requires an interpretation what I am
telling you is that it requires and interpretation to a dream. The science are trying to understand
that what interpretation should be to a dream, but in the Quran in surah Yousuf, if you look
up into surah Yousuf, I can refer to four dreams. Yousuf A.S. I am giving in my own
words, Yousuf A.S. saw a dream when he was a young son that eleven stars are bowing to
himÖÖsorry to interrupt youÖ.i know thatÖÖ..no I am just telling you, just let me finish
nowÖ.Now can a person imagine stars bowing to him. How?
Sir Hazrat Yousuf interpreted that dream. But what Hazrat Ibraheem did that was the
instant playback of what he saw in his dream. He did not go to anybody for the interpretation.
Excuse me, if you know something you are debating now. I told you first you had a scientific
knowledge that you cannot rely on the visions dream. You first say that in the initial stage
of your question was that dreams, you cannot rely on a dream. Now I am giving you the Quran
speaks of four dreams with Yousuf A.S. and Allah gave the knowledge to Yousuf A.S. to
interpret the dream, so your first question was that the dreams have no relation in real
life, there is strong relation of the dream but it has to be interpreted according to
the dream and he interpreted it. But with Ibraheem A.S. case the dream was there, so
Allah said that this is the truth, he is making the truth of that dream. So what I am telling
Brother Mohammad Shaikh: No he did not do it. It is in the Bible that he was trying
to slaughter the son, he did not do it. This is the whole lecture. I donít know you came
in the beginning or you came in the last. Excuse me did you listen to the lecture, the
whole lecture or you came lateÖ.No sir I was presentÖ..okay. The lecture I explained
that in the dream he saw that he was slaughtering the son, in the dream, but in his real life,
he did not slaughterÖ..He tried toÖ..No he did not. That is in the BibleÖÖ.
That is in the hadees also.
Excuse me we are not talking about hadess here. The lecture was what Quran and compared
it with Bible. I told you the Quran, he did not slaughter his son. Nowhere in any verse
of Quran. The Bible said that he wanted to slaughter his son, the goat came, so the fidya
was for the goat, where is the sacrifice. Where is the sacrifice that he was not slaughtered.
No he gave his life, Ismail A.S. gave his life for the cause of Allah and Allah said
that that is Allah made the dream true. That is
what the word says. So Allah is telling you that how did he made the dream true that you
will enter into sacred mosque with your hair shaved off that is the interpretation given
by Allah. So I am not interpreting, Allah has done. So this is how the dream was fulfilled,
I refer to ayat 27 of surah fatah
For people to translate this that AllahÖ.
this is about fateh Makkah.
Brother Mohammad Shaikh: Excuse me, donít give me your understanding to the ayat. Does
the ayat says that. Does the ayat says it is the fateh MakkahÖ.. this is for our prophet
Mohammad s.a.wÖÖ.where does this state in the Quran here is the Quran show meÖ..no,
but how do you interpret this for Hazrat IbraheemÖÖ..No, no because the Quran mentioned about the dream
of Ibraheem A.S. You are telling it is for Mohammad s.a.w.
During the last 1400 years no body has said this thing. All have accepted this is about
sulah Hudaibiya and fateh Makkah.
You say that it is mentioned for prophet Mohammad p.b.u.h. does the Quran say? Speak it to the
audience, so they should know. Does the Quran sayÖ..excuse meÖ.you must say, because you
are talking about something about Quranic ayat. That the Quran says that this dream
was shown to prophet Mohammad p.b.u.h.
But how do you say this dream was shown to prophet Ibraheem.
Ibraheem A.S. did not saw a dream?......you find it outÖ. there is a where is that for
Ibraheem A.S. you have made the vision to the same to the same Gentleman: That was that
dream which he saw about.
is the same dream referred.. this word Arabic is here. The word is exactly the word I explained
that in my lecture and every body listened to that. Now if you say it is not for Ibraheem
A.S. you have to tell me how is it for Mohammad s.a.w.
Because it refers to entering into Makkah. Our prophet entered Makkah.
Who is denying that he never went to Makkah. What my question is where did Mohammad s.a.w.
saw a dream which you are referring to in the Quran.
This Quran is available here I am holding this Quran, I am giving a lecture what Al-Quran
says about the dream of Ibrahim A.S. I gave this lecture in the audience. I showed you
how Ibrahim A.S. saw a dream and how Allah has made true the dream and how Ibrahim A.S.
[Arabic text] completed the dream. These three ayaats I showed you. Now you give me one ayat
No, but how does this refers to Hazrat Ibraheem.
My name is Mumtaz, my question is by your lecture it implies that our forefathers were
all wrong, or they had no knowledge or they had no knowledge. What do you say about this.
Why are you or if suppose the people in the audience are thinking in that manner is because
of the fact the Quran says in So Allah said It has been a practice that whenever the ayaats
are being brought forward, people will say this. when it is said to people to follow
what Allah has revealed, the ayaats were rehearsed here. So these ayaats is Allahís message,
so whenever these ayaats come forward so they will say they said no we will follow our fathers.
So this is the happenings. So Allah says If the father had not had any knowledge or they
did not have any guidance, so what is the worry about. You have got the ayahs you are
reciting the ayaats if I am interpreting the ayaats, if I am translating wrongly ayaats
you can always ask me a question, but if you are agreeing to the ayaats, the translation
and the concept, you may not agree, because what you have been told from the past in your
childhood may not refer to what Quran says. So to be a Muslim we have to believe in the
Ladies and gentleman on your behalf I first thank Mr. Mohammad Shaikh for delivering his
enlightening talk. Ladies and gentleman as you all know arranging all these lectures,
pamphlets and video cassettes, it does cost the center a lot and so far the center has
been running on donations received from various sources. In this context I would like to request
to you that it will be a gesture in the way of Allah to donate anything that you like
towards the center not here but at the center itself whenever you want including zakaat
and fitra. Ladies and gentleman thank you very much for this gathering her. You are
all requested to join us outside for a cup of tea.