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TODAY ON "SPRINGER."
>> MY LOVE IS STARTING TO GET
TO THAT POINT WHERE IT IS
STRONG.
>> HE'S IN LOVE BUT LATASHA
HASN'T BEEN HONEST.
>> AND TATIANAgS BEEN LIVING
THE SAME LIE.
>> I WASN'T ALWAYS A FEMALE.
>> PLUS, ALEXA HAS A SURPRISE.
>> SECRETS REVEALED AND THE
TRUTH HURTS.
[CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
and UNIVERSAL TELEVISION]
AUDIENCE: JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY: THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
TODAY WE'RE TALKING TO WOMEN
WHO SAY THEY'VE BEEN KEEPING
SECRETS FROM THE MEN THEY LOVE.
AND EVEN THOUGH THEY RISK
LOSING THEIR RELATIONSHIPS ONCE
THEIR SECRETS ARE REVEALED THEY
SAY THEY'RE HERE TO COME CLEAN
ONCE AND FOR ALL.
I WOULD LIKE TO YOU MEET
CONSTANCE.
SHE IS HERE TODAY BECAUSE SHE
THINKS HER DAUGHTER AND HER
FRIEND NEED TO BE MORE HONEST
WITH THE MINT THEY DATE.
>> MY DAUGHTER AND HER
GIRLFRIEND ARE DATING THESE
GUYS.
BASICALLY, I THINK THEY NEED TO
COME CLEAN AND TELL THEM THE
TRUTH.
JERRY: THEY'RE NOT HON WEST
THESE GUYS?
>> NO.
JERRY: ARE THEY NORMALLY HONEST
PEOPLE?
>> THEY ARE VERY NORMAL HONEST
PEOPLE BUT THEY ARE CAUGHT UP
IN THESE RELATIONSHIPS, THEY
NEED TO BE HON WEST THEM.
THEY ARE VERY PRETTY GIRLS,
VERY PRETTY.
JERRY: YOUR DAUGHTER'SAME IS
TATIANA.
AND HER FRIEND IS HERE,
LATASHA.
>> YES.
JERRY: LET'S MEET THEM BOTH,
TATIANA, AND LATASHA.
>> HI, JERRY.
JERRY: WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
WHO'S TATIANA?
>> I'M TATIANA.
JERRY: AND YOU'RE LATASHA.
TATIANA, YOUR MOM SAYS YOU ARE
NOT HONEST WITH THE GUYS YOU
DATE?
>> NO, I'M NOT.
I'VE BEEN DATING THIS GUY TONY
FOR A MINUTE AND OUR FEELINGS
ARE STARTING TO GROW.
AND WE'RE STARTING TO LIKE EACH
OTHER.
I HAVE A SECRET THAT I HAVE TO
TELL HIM.
I'M SCARED TO TELL HIM BUT HE
TAKES ME OUT AND EVERYTHING.
I MEET A LOT OF GUYS.
HOW CAN A GUY RESIST SOMETHING
LIKE THIS?
I'M GOING TO TELL HIM TODAY
WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY.
IF HE ACCEPTS ME FOR WHAT I AM,
HE REALLY LOVES ME.
JERRY: WHAT IS GOING ON WITH
YOU?
>> HONESTLY, I'M A BOY.
BUT, JERRY, I'M MAKING CHANGES
IN MY LIFE SO I CAN BECOME WHAT
I WANT TO BECOME.
I THINK I'LL BE GOOD AT IT.
I LOOK GOOD SO FAR.
JERRY: AND LATASHA, YOU'RE HER
FRIEND.
WHAT IS THE SECRET YOU ARE
KEEPING?
>> I'VE BEEN DATING THIS GUY
TWO YEARS.
WE WERE DATING ON AND OFF
SEEING EACH OTHER.
I JUST HAVE TO TELL HIM AS
WELL.
WE AGREED TO DO THIS TOGETHER.
THIS IS MY BEST FRIEND I TOLD
HER IF SHE WOULD DO IT I'D DO
IT.
JERRY: YOU'RE A GUY TOO?
>> I'M A ***.
JIPE SO YOU WERE BOTH BORN AS
BOYS BUT YOU FOOL YOU'RE A
WOMAN?
>> BUT WE GOT [BEEP] JUST LIKE
WOMEN.
JERRY: WELL, I WOULD HOPE SO.
>> I'M GAGGING NOW.
JERRY: OK.
TO GET SERIOUS FOR A SECOND,
YOU DATE THESE GUYS AND YOU
DON'T -- HOW LONG DO YOU DATE
THEM AND YOU STILL DON'T TELL
THEM?
>> WITH TONY WE WERE DATING A
MONTH AND A HALF.
JERRY: DO YOU KISS HIM?
>> WE KISS, GO ON DATES.
HE WINES AND DINES ME.
JERRY: IF YOU'RE GOING TO KISS
THE GUY, DON'T YOU THINK BEFORE
THE FIRST TIME YOU KISS HIM YOU
SHOULD SAY "EXCUSE ME, THERE'S
SOMETHING YOU OUGHT TO KNOW?"
>> BUT, JERRY THE THING IS
WEEFER' BEEN TOGETHER FOR A
MINUTE.
JERRY: WHAT'S A MINUTE?
>> A MONTH AND A HALF.
I WANT HIM TO GET TO LIKE ME AS
A PERSON FUFMENT COME OUT AND
STRAIGHT UP TELL SOME GUY
YOU'RE A *** HE WOULD
MORE THAN LIKELY RUN AWAY.
JERRY: MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED TO
WALK INTO A BAR, RESTAURANT OR
WHATEVER AND SAY "HI, EVERYBODY
I'M A ***."
.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
IT SEEMS TO ME HOWEVER LONG YOU
WANT TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP,
BEFORE THE FIRST TIME YOU KISS,
THAT SHOULD BE AT LEAST THE
LINE WHERE YOU SAY WAIT --
>> BUT I LIKE TO KISS AND SO
DID HE.
JERRY: YOU LIKE TO KISS.
BUT H PROBABLY THINKS HE WOULD
LIKE TO KISS A GIRL.
>> I AM.
JERRY: I KNOW, DON'T BE UPSET.
I UNDERSTAND HE WANTS -- YEAH.
BUT HE HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW.
WOULDN'T YOU RATHER -- YOU SAY
YOU WANT HIM TO KNOW YOU.
WELL, HE -- YOU WANT HIM TO BE
IN LOVE WITH WHO YOU REALLY ARE
NOT WHO YOU'RE PRETENDING TO
BE.
RIGHT NOW YOU'RE PRETENDING,
YOU'RE NOT TELLING HIM YOU ARE
A TRANS ***, YOU ARE
PRETENDING TO BE A GIRL UNTIL
YOU FULLY ARE ONE.
>> I REALLY LIKE THIS MAN, IF I
DIDN'T REALLY LIKE HIM I
WOULDN'T COME ON NATIONAL
TELEVISION TELLING HIM THIS.
JERRY: WE'LL TALK TO YOUR
BOYFRIEND A LITTLE BIT LATER.
LATASHA YOU HAVE A BOYFRIEND AS
WELL?
>> WE'RE NOT BOYFRIENDS NOW,
WE'RE REALLY FRIENDS.
BUT WE REALLY GOT CLOSE TO EACH
OTHER.
HE REAL YEA DOORS ME.
HE LIKES ME A LOT.
JERRY: HAVE YOU EVER KISSED
HIM?
>> HE KISSED ME, THAT'S THE
DIFFERENCE.
>> YOU KISSED HIM BACK.
JERRY: YOU WERE THERE.
>> IT TAKES TWO TO KISS.
>> DON'T GET STARTED, OK.
>> IT TAKES TWO TO KISS.
>> THEY ARE MORE AT GRESSIVE
ONES.
THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WANT TO
GRAB US.
PLENTLY OF TIMES I SAID NO, WE
SHOULD WAIT.
I KNOW IT IS WRONG AND I KNOW I
SHOULDN'T DO IT, BUT DO I IT
ANYWAY.
JERRY: I TELL YOU, WHAT HOW DO
YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO
REACT WHEN YOU TELL THEM?
>> I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE
HURT MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY.
JERRY: PHYSICALLY?
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO
HIM?
>> IT IS NOT JUST A ***
THING' DOORS ME FOR ME.
I'M A NICE PERSON, WE GO OUT.
DO THINGS WITH EACH OTHER.
THIS BOY REALLY WANTS TO GET
SERIOUS WITH ME.
I DON'T WANT TO HURT HIM.
JERRY: WHEN WE COME BACK YOU
CAN TELL HIM.
>> I GOT TO TELL HIM FIRST?
JERRY: LET ME SEE WHAT IT SAYS
HERE, LATASHA YOU WILL TELL HIM
FIRST.
WE'LL TAKE A BREAK.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
>> THE WAY JERRY SAYS IT IS WE
ARE BOYS, BUT
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JERRY: THANK YOU.
WELCOME BACK.
TODAY MY GUESTS ALL SAY THEY'VE
BEEN KEEPING SECRETS FROM THE
MEN THEY LOVE AND HAVE COME
HERE TO REVEAL THE TRUTH.
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH
LATASHA AND TATIANA.
AND IF YOU'RE WATCHING AT HOME
AND JUST TUNED IN, IT'S HARD TO
BELIEVE BUT IN FACT THE TWO
WOMEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT HERE
WERE BORN MEN.
THEY ARE TRANSSEXUALS.
SO BUT THAT'S OK.
PEOPLE ARE WHAT THEY ARE.
WHAT MAY NOT BE OK THOUGH IS
THAT AS THEIR MOM HAS SAID --
AS TATIANA'S MOM HAS SAID THEY
HAVEN'T BEEN HONEST WITH THE
GUISE THEY MEET OR SOCIALIZE
WITH OR IN TATIANA'S CASE EVEN
KISS.
SO THE GUYS THINK THEY'RE
WOMEN.
WE'LL START WITH YOU LATASHA.
YOUR MALE FRIEND'S NAME IS
AMIRE.
HE KISSED YOU --
>> WE TOUCHED WE FELT, WE
HUGGED, WE SPENT TIME TOGETHER.
WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER.
JERRY: OK.
HE IS -- HE'S BEEN OUTSIDE OF
THE STUDIO SO HE HASN'T HEARD
WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
HE DOES KNOW THAT HE IS HERE TO
HEAR A SECRET FROM YOU.
HE IS PREPARED BUT I GUESS HE'S
NOT GUESSING WHAT IT IS.
LET'S BRING HIM OUT.
HERE IS AMIRE.
JERRY: HI, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
>> HELLO.
JERRY: TELL ME ABOUT YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH LATASHA?
HOW LONG HAVE YOU KNOWN EACH
OTHER?
>> ON AND OFF TWO YEARS.
JERRY: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF
HER?
>> SHE'S WONDERFUL, SHE
SUPPORTIVE, STRONG MINDED.
JERRY: AND REAL ATTRACTIVE?
>> YES, SHE IS.
JERRY: SHE WANTS TO TELL YOU
SOMETHING, SO I'LL STEP OUT OF
IT.
YOU TAKE IT OVER.
>> OK.
YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR
A LONG TIME, AND A DOOR YOU
SWEETHEART.
I THINK YOU'RE REALLY, REALLY
SWEET.
OUR RELATIONSHIP HAS TO STOP.
OUR SEEING TOGETHER, GETTING
TOGETHER -- IT IS BECAUSE OF
ME.
I WASN'T HONEST WITH YOU.
THERE ARE REASONS WE DIDN'T --
ANYWAY, OH, BOY.
I DON'T WANT TO YOU GET UPSET.
I DON'T WANT TO YOU BE HURT
FR YOUR HEART.
I THINK IT IS BETTER FOR YOU TO
BE HONEST AND STRAIGHT UP AND
BE THE PERSON I AM.
THE WAY JERRY SAYS IT IS WE
BOYS, BUT WE'RE REALLY NOT.
AUDIENCE: JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY!
JERRY: WHAT DO YOU EXPECT ME TO
DO?
WHY ARE YOU YELLING MY NAME?
I UNDERSTAND YOUR ANGER.
THERE WAS NO CLUE, NOTHING NOW
AS YOU LOOK BACK THAT YOU LOOK
BACK AND SAY, BOY, I SHOULD
HAVE SPOTTED THAT?
>> NOT THAT LIKE THAT MAN.
JERRY: SHE WAS REALLY
DECEPTIVE?
>> DECEPTIVE.
DAMN RIGHT.
I MEAN THAT'S -- OH, MY GOSH,
MAN.
I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS.
JERRY: SHE SAID, JUST SO YOU
CAN FEEL A LITTLE MORE CALM,
SHE SAYS YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN
INTIMATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> YOU HIT ME ONE MORE TIME --
>> [BEEP].
>> WHATEVER.
>> IT'S STUPID.
>> ALL THOSE NICE TIMES Y'ALL
HAD TOGETHER.
>> YOU CAN'T PLAY WITH PEOPLE'S
FEELINGS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
JERRY: GO AHEAD.
>> ESPECIALLY NOT LIKE THIS.
I MEAN, YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN
MORE OF A DECENT PERSON.
>> I THOUGHT YOU LIKED ME FOR
ME.
EVIDENTLY YOU DIDN'T.
>> I LIKED YOU FOR YOU.
>> I AM ME.
>> YOU WERE DECEMBER EVING ME
AT THE SAME TIME.
>> HOW?
>> I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT
BUDDY?
>> WHATEVER.
>> [BEEP].
>> I'M GLAD THIS DID COME UP.
>> I'M GLAD IT DID TOO.
I STILL LOVE YOU.
DON'T BE NO FOOL.
YOU STILL GOT FEELINGS FOR
THIS.
>> [BEEP].
>> WHY YOU SAY THAT.
>> AIN'T NO REASON, BUT HE
WASN'T.
>> WHATEVER.
>> LIKE I WAS SAYING --
>> [BEEP].
>> DON'T EVEN TRY■ PUTTING ME
LIKE THAT.
WHATEVER.
JERRY: WHAT'S -- WHAT'S BETWEEN
YOU TWO NOW?
I KNOW YOU'RE ANGRY NOW.
ARE YOU SAYING IT'S DONE?
THAT'S IT.
>> RIGHT.
>> HE'LL BE CALLING ME
TOMORROW.
TRYING TO IMPRESS HIS FRIENDS
HE'LL BE CALLING ME TOMORROW.
>> JERRY, I'M A STRAIGHT GUY.
I'M GLAD IT DIDN'T GO THAT FAR.
WHATEVER.
SHUT UP, MAN.
JERRY: OK.
I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE SAYING YOU
DON'T WANT ANY PART OF IT.
YOU ARE STRAIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING.
>> THE MONEY WAS GOOD BECAUSE I
CONSTANTLY GOT MONEY.
SO THANKS.
JERRY: WHEN WE COME BACK WE'LL
MEET TATIANA'S BOYFRIEND.
>> WHAT YOU SAYING?
>> SHE USED TO BE A BOY.
>> HOLD UP.
HOLD UP.
WHAT YOU SAYING?
MONDAY ON "SPR"
JERRY: WELCOME BACK.
IF YOU'RE JUST JOINING US
CONSTANCE CAME ON THE SHOW AND
WAS CONCERNED THAT HER
DAUGHTER, TATIANA AND HER
DAUGHTER'S FRIEND LATASHA
WEREN'T BEING HONEST WITH THE
MEN THEY WERE DATING.
AND NOT BEING HONEST WITH THE
MEN THEY'RE DATING,
SPECIFICALLY THEY WRPT TELLING
THEM THAT IN FACT THEY WERE
BORN AS BOYS.
THEY ARE NOW ***.
THEY WANT TO BECOME WOMEN.
THEY FEEL THEY ARE WOMEN.
THEY LIVE A LIFE AS A WOMAN.
THEY ARE PHYSICALLY STILL MEN.
THEN WHEN LATASHA TOLD HER
BOYFRIEND AMERE HE WAS VERY
UPSET.
HE FEELS HE WAS GREATLY
DECEMBER EEFED AND IS SAYING HE
DOESN'T WANT TO BE WITH LATASHA
ANY MORE.
HAVING SEEN THAT, TATIANA,
SEEING THE REACTION, YOU ARE
ABOUT TELL YOUR BOY FRIEND,
WHAT DO YOU THINK AFTER SEEING
HIS REACTION?
>> AFTER SEEING HIS REACTION I
HOPE MY BOYFRIEND DOESN'T REACT
LIKE THAT.
HE IS MORE OF A MAN.
MY MAN IS MORE OF A MAN.
>> YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN A MAN.
THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE BORN AS.
>> I DON'T LOOK LIKE ANYBODY'S
MAN.
>> SIT DOWN, BRO.
JERRY: HE COULD BE UPSET
BECAUSE HE IS FALLING IN LOVE
WHAT W WHAT HE THINKS IS A
WOMAN.
>> I'M IN LOFMENT MY FEELINGS
ARE ALSO EVOLVED HERE.
[BEEP].
I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT MY
FEELINGS TOO.
HE COMES AND VISITS ME.
HE PUTS THE PRESSURE ON ME
SAYING I WANT TO BE WITH YOU.
AND THIS AND THAT.
JERRY: WHY WOULDN'T IT COME UP
IN A CONVERSATION?
THIS ISN'T LIKE I FORGOT TO
TELL YOU ABOUT MY AUNT.
>> I'VE BEEN TRYING TO PUSH HIM
OFF.
I DATE A LOT OF GUYS.
JERRY: DO ALL OF THESE GUYS
KNOW WHAT YOUR SITUATION IS?
>> I TELL SOME IF I FEEL
COMFORTABLE.
JERRY: YOU MAY BE GOING HOME
NOW AFTER THIS TV SHOW THEY'RE
ALL GOING TO KNOW.
ANYWAY, YOUR BOYFRIEND'S NAME
IS TONY.
TONY HAS BEEN OUTSIDE OF THE
STUDIO.
HE HASN'T HEARD WHAT'S BEEN
GOING ON.
>> I AIN'T GOING THROUGH THIS
AGAIN.
MOVE OVER.
JERRY: HERE IS TONY.
JERRY: WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN
TOGETHER?
>> DATING OFF AND ON SINCE LAST
YEAR?
>> YEAH.
JERRY: WHAT FAFERTE TRACTED
YOU?
-- WHAT FAFERTE TRACTED YOU?
>> HER DANCING.
SHE WAS REAL SEXY.
JERRY: YOU KNOW YOU ARE HERE
BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO TELL YOU
SOMETHING.
>> THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.
JERRY: GO AHEAD, TATIANA.
TELL TONY WHAT YOU WANT.
>> WE'VE BEEN DATING AND
EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW YOU'VE GROWN ON ME AND
I'VE GROWN ON YOU.
I HOPE OUR RELATIONSHIP KEEPS
ON GROWING.
I HAVE SOMETHING TO TELL YOU
AND I HOPE IT DOESN'T HURT OUR
RELATIONSHIP.
HONESTLY I WASN'T ALWAYS A
FEMALE.
HOLD UPS.
WHAT YOU SAYING?
WHAT YOU SAYING?
>> SHE USED TO BE A BOY.
SHE USED TO BE A BOY.
>> [BEEP].
>> SIT DOWN.
>> [BEEP].
>> SHE TOLD ME SHE'S A DUDE.
>> JUST DEAL WITH IT.
JUST DEAL WITH IT.
>> [BEEP].
>> I KISS HER.
>> TONY, TONY --
>> MY GLASSES GOT TOSSED IN THE
AUDIENCE.
>> I TOLD YOUR GIRLS THAT Y'ALL
SHOULD NOT BE DOING THAT.
I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD BE
HONEST.
LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.
YOU'RE PRETTY GIRLS, LOOKED
WHAT HAPPENED.
YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THEIR
FEELINGS TOO.
THAT'SY TOLD YOU TO DO THIS.
JERRY: HERE'S A GUY, HE
OBVIOUSLY IS A A TRACTED TO YOU
AS A WOMAN.
HE HAS EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE
YOU ARE A WOMAN.
YOU SAID THERE WAS A DEGREE OF
INTIMACY.
AND NOW YOU'RE TELLING HIM,
HEY, I'M REALLY A GUY.
>> I THOUGHT HE LOVED ME.
I THOUGHT SHOULD BE
UNCONDITIONAL.
>> I'D LIKE TO SAY THIS, OUR
RELATIONSHIP IT, WAS LIKE WE
COULD [BEEP].
WE GET ON TOGETHER.
WE WOULD CHILL TOGETHER.
WE WOULD HANG OUT TOGETHER.
JERRY: WHEN WE COME BACK WE
WILL START WITH YOU.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
JERRY: WELCOME BACK.
OK.
IF YOU'RE JUST JOINING US TONY
HAS JUST BEEN TOLD BY WHO HE
THOUGHT WAS HIS GIRLFRIEND THAT
SHE, IN FACT --
>> IT WASN'T MY GIRLFRIEND WE
WAS JUST [BEEP].
JERRY: ALL RIGHT.
>> IT NEVER WAS LIKE THAT FROM
THE BEGINNING.
WE USED TO [BEEP].
>> I WILL MOVE ON.
LIFE GOES ON.
YOU AIN'T NOTHING BUT A --
[BEEP].
>> IT'S LIKE, I GOT A GIRL, YOU
KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
JERRY: HAVE YOU A GIRLFRIEND.
>> HE'S A ***.
HE'S A HO.
IT WASN'T LIKE WE WERE TOGETHER
LIKE THAT.
>> HE'S A ***.
HE'S A FREAK.
>> WE HAD A BUMP AND GRINNED
SESSION, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
>> YOU ENJOYED EVERY MOMENT OF
IT.
>> WHEN I THOUGHT *** WAS A
GIRL.
JERRY: HAVE YOU A GIRLFRIEND.
LET'S MEET HER.
HERE'S ANGEL.
>> ALL WOMAN.
BELIEVE THAT.
OK.
100%.
YEAH.
JERRY: WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
>> HOW YOU DOING, JERRY?
JERRY: FINE, THANK YOU.
THIS IS THE ONE SHOW WHERE WE
HAVE TO IDENTIFY OUR GENDER.
>> THAT OUT FIT ON YOU.
>> SHE HAS SOMEONE ELSE'S
CLOTHES ON.
>> HER GIRL FRIEND IS LOCKED UP
LIVING IN HER HOME.
JERRY: WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION
WHEN --
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THIS --
WHAT IS ALL THIS?
>> HAD WE BROKE UP DURING THE
SUMMERTIME THAT'S WHEN WE USED
TO GET TOGETHER AND GET IT ON.
>> EYE WAS LISTENING TO ALL
THIS.
>> IT WAS JUST LIKE WE WERE
CHILLING.
>> WHAT WAS IT A THREESOME?
>> [BEEP].
>> YOU NEED TO WATCH HIM.
YOU BETTER WATCH HIM.
>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
>> I WAS JUST AS SHOCKED AS YOU
WAS.
JERRY: YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING
THAT -- YOU ARE SUGGESTING THAT
HE KNEW?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK.
FIRST OF ALL THEY LOOK LIKE
WOMEN.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING.
I DON'T KNOW TO SAY THAT HE
KNEW WHAT THEY WERE.
>> THEY BUMPED AND GRIND, HE
KNEW.
JERRY: HE SEEMED SURPRISED, I
DON'T THINK HE KNEW.
>> I HAVE SOMETHING I WANT TO
SAY TO HER.
WE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER OFF AND
ON FOR YEARS SINCE WE WERE
GROWING UP.
THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT YOU, YOU
KNOW THAT.
YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOU,
RIGHT?
>> HE WAS CHEATING ON YOU.
>> [BEEP].
>> THIS IS A VOW OF MY LOVE TO
A WOMAN.
A REAL WOMAN!
>> NOT FAKE.
JERRY: TATIANA, WHAT IS YOUR
REACTION TO THIS?
>> MY REACTION IS JUST TO MOVE
ON.
I MEAN --
JERRY: UP NEXT THIS WOMAN IS
KEEPING A SECRET FROM HER
FIANCE, WILL HE CANCEL THE
WEDDING WHEN THE TRUTH COMES
OUT.
WE'LL FIND OUT.
>> FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS I'VE
BEEN SEEING SOMEBODY ELSE.
>> WHAT ARE YOU TALKING A
JOIM WELCOME BACK.
WELCOME BACK.
REVEALING A SECRET CAN BE
PAINFUL, BUT KEEPING IT INSIDE
CAN BE WORSE.
TODAY MY GUESTS ARE HIRE TO
TELL THEIR LOVERS THE TRUTH.
MY NEXT GUEST, ALEXA IS
PLANNING TO MARRY HER FIANCE IN
JUST A FEW MONTHS, BUT SAYS SHE
MUST COME CLEAN WITH A SECRET
BEFORE THE WEDDING BELLS RING.
PLEASE WELCOME ALEXA TO THE
SHOW.
JERRY: I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, I
HAVE AN OUT FIT JUST LIKE IT.
I WAS ALMOST GOING TO WEAR
THAT.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN ENGAGED?
>> TWO YEARS.
JERRY: AND WHAT IS YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM LIKE?
>> WONDERFUL.
JERRY: YOU LOVE HIM?
>> OFOURSE.
JERRY: YOU'RE PLANNING TO GET
MARRIED?
>> RIGHT.
JERRY: HE HAS NO IDEA ABOUT THE
SECRET YOU HAVE?
>> NO.
JERRY: WHAT IS THE SECRET YOU
HAVE?
>> THAT I'VE BEEN WITH SOMEONE
ELSE FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
JERRY: IF YOU LOVE HIM WHY
WOULD YOU BE WITH SOMEONE ELSE?
>> I'M IN LOVE WITH BOTH OF
THEM.
JERRY: BOY, THAT COULD BE AN
EXPENSIVE WEDDING CAKE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN
WHEN HE FINDS OUT?
WOULDN'T THE REACTION TO ANYONE
WHO IS ENGAGED IF THEIR FIANCE
SAYS BY THE WAY I'M SEEING
SOMEONE ELSE, WOULDN'T THAT END
THE ENGAGEMENT?
>> NO.
JERRY: WHAT IF HE SAYS I
APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY.
IF YOU AGREE TO STOP SEEING
THAT PERSON, THE SMARTHE ON.
WOULD YOU GROW STOP SEEING THE
OTHER PERSON?
>> I'M NOT SURE.
JERRY: I'LL LET YOU DEAL WITH
IT.
HE IS OUT SIDE OF THE STUDIO
AND HASN'T HEARD WHAT YOU'VE
BEEN SAYING.
LET'S BRING HIM OUT.
HERE IS YOUR FIANCE, MIKE.
JERRY: MIKE, WELCOME TO THE
SHOW.
YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR
WHAT, SIX MONTHS?
ENGAGED FOR SIX MONTHS.
>> TWO YEARS.
JERRY: YOU'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR
TWO YEARS?
>> RIGHT.
JERRY: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF
ALEXA?
>> SHE'S A GREAT PERSON.
I LOVE HER VERY MUCH.
SHE TREATS ME LIKE A KING.
JERRY: SHE'S VERY PRETTY.
>> THANK YOU.
JERRY: SHE WANTS TO TELL YOU
SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR
RELATIONSHIP, GO AHEAD.
>> WELL, GOD.
FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS I'VE
KIND OF BEEN SEEING SOMEONE
ELSE.
>> WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
>> I'VE BEEN WITH SOMEONE ELSE
FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
>> WHO?
>> SOMEBODY OTHER THAN YOU.
IT'S NOT ANYONE YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW I TRAVEL A LOT WITH
WORK AND EVERYTHING.
IT JUST KIND OF HAPPENED.
AND WHEN I GOT TO FLORIDA ALL
THE TIME, I'M SEEING SOMEBODY
THERE.
JERRY: THIS IS THE PERSON WHO
IS HERE?
>> YEAH.
JERRY: OK.
BRING HIM ON OUT.
>> YOU BETTER STAY AWAY FROM
HER.
>> EXCUSE ME?
>> YOU HEARD ME.
JERRY: YOUR NAME IS SAMANTHA?
>> YEAH.
JERRY: YOU ARE WITH ALEXA?
>> YEAH.
JERRY: YOU DON'T KNOW MIKE?
>> MIKE?
>> DON'T YOU KNOW WE'RE
ENGAGED.
JERRY: ALEXA HASN'T HEARD
WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
>> WHERE IS YOUR RING?
>> PLEASE.
I KNOW YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN
WITH MEN AND THINGS.
OH, GOD.
>> WHATEVER.
I DESERVE THAT.
I DESERVE THAT.
I DID.
JERRY: WELL, YOU CLEARED THE
DECK.
>> LEAVE IT TO ME TO CLEAN OUT
THE ROOM.
JERRY: SHE DIDN'T -- YOU ARE
HAVING AN INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP
WITH STHA.
BUT SAMANTHA DOESN'T KNOW --
WELCOME BACK, SAMANTHA, SHE
WANTS TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.
>> IT JUST --
JERRY: WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
STAY WITH US.
JERRY: WELCOME BACK.
OK.
LET'S BRING EVERYBODY UP TO
DATE RIGHT HERE.
ALEXA, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO
TELL BOTH OF THESE PEOPLE
APPARENTLY.
NEITHER OF THEM KNOW EACH
OTHER.
>> NO.
JERRY: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY
TO SAMANTHA?
>> SAMANTHA, I LOVE YOU.
I DO.
I DO.
>> WHAT?
>> MICHAEL --
>> HOW CAN YOU LOVE HER WHEN
WE'RE GOING TO GET MARRIED?
>> I LOVE BOTH OF YOU.
WHAT DO YOU WANT OUT OF ME.
>> IT'S ME OR HER?
>> THAT'S TRUE.
YOU EITHER TAKE HIM OR YOU TAKE
ME.
JERRY: SHE NEVER TOLD YOU ABOUT
MICHAEL?
>> NO.
>> NEVER.
JERRY: AND MICHAEL WE KNOW SHE
NEVER TOLD YOU ABOUT SAMANTHA?
>> NOT AT ALL.
JERRY: IT'S NOT COMFORTABLE
HAVING YOU IN THIS POSITION.
>> HOW COULD YOU DO THIS?
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.
>> FIRST OFF, SAMANTHA, WE HAVE
BEEN TOGETHER FOR SIX MONTHS, I
ONLY COME TO FLORIDA, TWICE A
MONTH IT.
IS NOT LIKE WE'RE GETTING
MARRIED OR SOMETHING.
>> AND YOU COME TO FLORIDA AND
DON'T TELL ME THERE IS THIS GUY
NAMED MIKE.
IF IT IS ONLY YOU COME TO SEE
ME ONCE IN AWHILE, WHY COULDN'T
YOU TELL ME?
>> BECAUSE I TRIED TO TELL YOU
A FEW TIM, BUT ANY TIME I
TALKED ABOUT MALE SITUATION
IT'S WAS LIKE, WE DON'T DATE
MEN SO LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT IT.
>> BECAUSE YOU'RE DATING ME,
LIKE I WANT YOU TO GO DATE A
MAN.
WHATEVER.
WHATEVER.
JERRY: DID YOU KNOW --
>> YOU'VE BEEN CHEATING ON ME
FOR SIX MONTHS.
WHY?
WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THE
TRUTH.
JERRY: DID YOU KNOW SHE WAS
BISEXUAL?
>> NO.
JERRY: IS SAMANTHA THE FIRST
WOMAN HAVE YOU BEEN WITH?
>> NO.
JERRY: THANK GOD WE RAN OUT OF
CHAIRS.
>> IS THERE ANOTHER WOMAN TOO?
>> NO.
NO.
JERRY: WHAT IS YOUR ATTITUDE,
ARE YOU AS ANGRY AS SHE WOULD
BE IF SHE HAD ANOTHER WOMAN?
>> IF SHE HAD ANOTHER WOMAN --
JERRY: WOULD YOU BE ANGGRIER OR
DOES IT NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
>> SHE'S ENGAGED, THAT'S WHAT
THE DIFFERENCE IS.
THAT'S CRAZY.
JERRY: WHY WOULD YOU -- WHY
WOULD YOU SAY YES TO MARRIAGE
IF YOU'RE NOT SURE, ONE, ABOUT
YOUR *** PREFERENCE AND,
TWO, --
>> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT
MYSELF.
JERRY: UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO
BECOME A WOMAN, I MEAN
EVERYBODY ELSE HERE HAS.
>> THIS IS TO TONY AND THE
OTHER GUY, COULDN'T YOU FIND
THEIR TWIG AND BERRIES TUCKED
AND TAPED SOMEWHERE?
JERRY: I'LL BE BACK WITH A
FINAL THOUGHT.
STAY WITH US.
PAINTED AS A JILTED LOVER, A