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really offsets
she's not an easy situation but I I think
I he made I he made a great point right there
that you know this is not what needs to be done
I mean there's other ways to help the Syrian people I mean I think that that
that the first and foremost thing getting funding
and helping with the refugee crisis is the most pressing humanitarian
and in some respects security thing to do and I think that there's also just
this
that's a big problem that we need to figure out that this notion that there's
doing nothing
and there's doing something which is the military option
that's a totally false too and there's no in-between to it
there's no in between there is no creativity there's no se i mean i IIIi
that
like to those the notion of saying to the gulf states kick some money the
Refugee agency's
let these kids you know I mean I
and it truly is a catastrophic situation at the
you have people in the refugee camps getting recruited by rebels teenagers to
go out to the refugee camps go back into Syria
and fight which then makes them vulnerable possibly two attacks as well
re I mean but I i think i i agree a lot with what I'll you saying about what
actually start
in terms of the most press if it's about human needs and you got to address the
most pressing human needs
yeah I mean I'm I'm
I'm reading stories just the past few days %uh vino
on people saying that we should be
cutting aid to the Egyptian to the Egypt because the the money was going to
church in military
and I mean you'd think you know somewhere along the lines
with this talk about cutting foreign aid from a country that we're giving this
a2 and its use it being used for their own purposes
I mean you think some creativity would be sparks just from at that you know
maybe we should give some this a
some we should be extending far native these the Syrian refugees in helping a
lot more might be it but I mean
you know I was all subjects the via the invasion of Iraq you know which was
obviously completely catastrophically stupid in the wrong thing to do
there's a huge refugee crisis that was created
that thats that's still wanna the subtext so the war along with
the kinda massive privatization schemes and stripping of the iraqi assets
I you know but according to according to I think progress
as a right now at 12:42 yeah
p.m. Thursday I September 5th 2013 the latest theory a whip count is no
or leaning no is at 199 and yes
Lord leaning yes is that forty nine so I mean that's a very interesting to see if
this goes through
arm but I think I think that those are the
type the questions that I you would like that really see in congress is not
yes things have to be done so let's talk refugees let's talk about
you know the myriad issues connected to this
and you know I actually saw a clip
Chris Hayes last night and I i it was you know he was saying that sometimes
he drew the analogy American Civil War
and he said you know which was there was unease
chemical weapons but I mean what an incredible body count what a horrifying
thing
and you know that war you know nobody's perfect but obviously there was a side
it was obviously better than the other side one side thank god one
and you know it it in some respects me basically cases kinda saying it needed
to work itself out
need to go to the ant and I i mean i I don't know if I would want it
you know actually take that position not fully but I think there is this
element where to even with the Kosovo analogy whether using it
obviously are not that was in a civil war that was getting I was helping me
get rid other occupying force that was
gazing at the cleansing now Assad is engaging in every number of war crimes
imaginable
but it's a civil war D represents a real you know with qaddafi
once you got to the at rada that inner ring around them
there was nothing left nobody like the guy
in in Syria there's that network up so we're quick which is why it's a genuine
civil with Gadhafi to there was a large international support there too
as well and part of the reason I think for that was because this was not
in there was no I mean even
a qaddafi at the higher mercenary fighters from neighboring countries
to be part of his fighting force like
there was no real base a broader support
in Libya for qaddafi outside of people very much within his
that works where is with assad there is a broader base
support and that's why you know it's a civil war
and it just brings that you know i mean you know the only the last thing I just
noticed it is just throws all these other questions: the place like the fact
that Syria's still paying the consequences
love colonial Lee drawn borders that have nothing to do with it
you know the kurds you know I read there is peace %uh these Kurdish women
fighters
who are fighting they they oppose Assad and now in the north which is where the
al Qaeda fighters most active
these women fighters are fighting al-qaeda fighters they said Assad wants
to repress us
these people want to annihilate us they have to the
face a double bind to the net implicates turkey why can't turkey
get real you know improve on Kurdish human rights no
there's all these broader questions the play that nobody wants to get into
they just wanna shoot tomahawk missiles you that's not going to solve that this
story about that the Kurdish women you but I think it's really important to
because
I am you even hear you know carries out there are all these pop
Obama all these politicians are out there and they consistently use and not
just for Syria for
every issue like this even domestic issues where there's
where they want where they want to draw a line there's the good guys
and the bad guys and it's not like that
there's gray area there's people out there who are non either side
who aren't bad guys who may be necessary happy good guys
and everything in between there's a lot of complexity
and a you know dropping a bunch tomahawk missiles in the midst of complexity is
no such a hot idea