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now there's a difference between an atheist and agnostic do you know what it is ?
what's the difference ?
atheists don't believe in God, agnostics aren't sure
yeah, that's pretty good no God, and I just don't know for sure
so how much proof would it take for you to believe that there actually is a God ?
what would a God have to do to get your attention ?
regardless of the attention he gets from me I'm just not really interested
you're not interested in God let me see if I can do something kinda radical guys
I think I can prove to you that God exists
I'm gonna try to move you out of agnosticism into at least deism
this shirt, where was this t-shirt made ?
I don't really know I just proved to you that God exists
because you know that this t shirt was made, you know why ?
because it's intricately designed and woven together
and you can know that you're made because you're intricately designed and woven together
simple as that. you've never been to the t-shirt factory
but you know there's a t-shirt maker
you don't have to see God to know that he exist
because he made you, and you are far more intricately designed than that t-shirt
it's not that I don't believe in a God, it's more so that I don't know if I want to worship a God or not
okay, fair enough, but could we at least, based on my argument, state that there is clearly a god
because of all this stuff | yeah, it's so obvious
okay, fair enough, so congratulations you're not an agnostic anymore
you know that there's a God now
Oh yeah, but it's really a question of whether I want to worship him or not
fair enough, now let's see if we can figure out who that God is
because it would be worthwhile, right ? | yeah
because if he made the place, he's probably pretty big
and if I have been naughty and have to deal with that God
it would be worth trying to figure out what his attitude is
alright, so I want to start by probing your conscience right now
we've been talking a little intellectually, I wanna go to a different part of your brain
I wanna go to your conscience
I wanna hold up a standard, that you might think is pretty high
and the standard is the ten commandments, are you familiar with that ?
yeah
here's some of the Ten Commandments
how many lies do you think you've told in your life ?
I think quite a bit | what about you ?
I can't count | a lot of 'em
I try not to, but of course a few, yeah
now, if I told lies what would you call me ?
what type of person tells lies ? | a liar
alright so you're a liar, you're a liar, you're a liar, I'm a liar
how many things do you think you've stolen in your life ?
probably two or three things
a few things here and there
but it only takes one thing and we're thieves
only break the law once, and you're tag
by the way, have you ever used his name as curse word ?
yeah | okay that's called blasphemy
because he claims to be your maker, and instead of thanking him
you used his name, and dragged it through the mud
now, he said: you've heard it said of old, thou shalt not commit adultery
you know what that is, having sex outside of marriage
but I say if you look with *** you've committed adultery in your heart
you're 15, 16, 17,
have you ever looked with *** at a woman, man, anything
think that's more so human nature
I don't disagree with you, I don't, but that is the question
have you done it ? | yeah | of course | yes
alright so here's a little summation for you
based on your own confession
I'm not pointing fingers, this what you just confessed
if you stand before the creator, he's gonna know that you are a
lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart
wowza, your conscience should be screaming I'm in big trouble
and we have a sense of justice, that bad guy should get it
we like it when criminals are caught, and so does God
and if we have that sense, its pretty safe to say that
God has a sense of justice that's probably even higher than ours
so if you died, at whatever age it happens to be, and you stood before God
who judged you, knowing your thought life, knowing everything you've done
every deed done in darkness, he's the judge
would he say that you're innocent or guilty
guilty
I guess, based on that, guilty | yes, guilty
that's the evidence, you confessed it
now, if God is just and he gives us what we deserve
if you're a guilty criminal before God
would he send you to heaven or to hell ?
based on what we just talked about, I guess hell
it's a tough answer I know it, because nobody likes the idea
what about you young man ?
it depends on how much you want to pollute heaven
he wouldn't want to at all, that's good point
why would somebody perfectly holy want to have a sinner like you and me with him
he wouldn't, that's what the Bible says
he can't have sin in his presence, cause he's perfect
heaven or hell ? | hell
not because our crimes are so spectacular
but it's the one against whom we committed the crimes
do you see the difference ?
if I step on a bug and kill it, it's no big deal
if I kill a homeless guy, I'm probably gonna get some time
if I fly to Washington and kill the President of the United States
I'm going away for life
I committed the same crime three times
and I'm gonna received three different punishments
what changed in that little story ?
same crime, different punishment, what's the difference ?
you did it on different things | that's right you're very...
people think differently about each one
the president is esteemed higher than the cockroach
and, unfortunately, as the homeless guy
so I committed a crime against somebody who's higher up
I get a bigger punishment, God is way above kings
he's way above emperors, he's way above presidents
and our crimes are against him
so we've now earned an eternity in hell
so guys, it sounds like
if what i'm saying is true
and your conscience should be screaming it is
you're going to hell
does that mean at this point in our lives
we are already going to hell, so it doesn't matter what we do from now on
no, here's what else we can learn about God
we think that God communicates because we communicate
we've got a sense of justice, so does he
we love, and we care, and we have compassion
and so does God, and way more than any of us
God attribute of loving-kindness is beyond anything we can imagine
so God did something so you don't have to go to hell
this is what he did, according to the Bible
the Bible says that God sent His Son
whose name is Jesus Christ
and he came to this earth to accomplish one thing, to die on a cross
on purpose, laying down his life, taking the wrath of the father
so that you guys don't have to go to hell
how grateful should we be to that rescuer
what do you think would be the first thing that you should do
to the God who gave you life.
say you're sorry
I'm sorry God, I've blown it
I've really done a lot of wrong things, and I'm very very sorry
the biblical word is repent: you apologize, you turn from your sins
it doesn't mean you become perfect
you just turn from your sins, with a new attitude
you don't want them anymore
for the things you used to like, I don't want those anymore
the Bible says you must put your trust in Jesus Christ
and the Bible says as soon as you do that he'll make you a new creation
he will see you through Jesus
so the goodness he did you'll get, but you gotta
repent and put your trust in the Savior
and then God will take you to heaven
not because you're good, but because you're a bad person who has been forgiven in the great exchange
does that make sense to you ?
it makes sense