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AND SHOWED HIM MY MEMBERSHIP CARD.
GOOD FOR YOU. WELL DONE.
I ASSUME YOU HAE GUNS IN THE HOUS.
INDEED, I DO.
UH-HUH.
BAD GUYS, TAKE NOTICE.
SO YOU HAVE THEM FOR PROTECTION?
YEAH, SURE.
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A VICTIM OF CRIME?
NO, NO.
NEVER--NEVER BEEN ASSAULTED OR--
NO.
NO VIOLENCE TOWARD YOU, BUT YOU HAVE GUNS IN THE HOUSE.
LOADED.
THEY'RE LOADE?
IF YOU REALLY NEED A WEAPON FOR SELF-DEFENSE,
YOU NEED IT LOADED.
WHY DO YOU NEED IT FOR SELF-DEFENSE?
I DON'T.
YOU'VE NEVER BEEN A VICTIM OF CRIME, YOU'VE VER BEEN ASSAULTED.
THAT'S TRUE.
WHY WOULD YOU...
SO, WHY DON'T YOU UNLOAD THE GUN?
BECAUSE, UH, THE SECOND AMENDMENT GIVES ME THE RIGHT TO HAVE IT LOADED.
OH, I AGREE. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND AMENDMENT GIVES ME--
LET'S SAY IT'S A COMFORT FACTOR, YOU KNOW?
IT GIVES YOU COMFORT TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOADED GUN?
COMFORT, MEANING IT ALLOWS YOU TO RELX AND FEEL SAFE?
NOT WORRY ABOUT IT.
NOT WORRY, NOT BE AFRAID.
I'M NOT REALLY, BUT, UH,
I'M EXERCISING ONE OF THE RIGHTS, UH,
PASSED ON DOWN TO ME
FROM THOSE WISE, OLD, DEAD WHITE GUYS THAT INVENTED THIS COUNTRY.
IF IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM, IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
YOU COULD STILL EXERCISE THE RIGT
JUST BY HAVING THE G
I CHOOSE TO HAVE IT.
WHAT STRIKES ME AS INTERESTING
IS THAT IN OTHER COUNTRIES, WHERE THEY DON'T
HAVE THE *** RATE, THE GUN *** RATE THAT WE HAVE...
THAT, UH, MANY PEOPLE SAY THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE GUNS AROUN.
IT'S HARD TO GET A GUN IN BRITAIN OR GERMANY, OR WHATEVER.
BUT WE WENT TO CANADA
AND THERE'S 7 MILLION GUNS IN 10 MILLION HOMES.
THERE WON'T BE, VERY LONG.
BUT, HEAR ME OUT, THOUGH. CANADA IS A NATION OF HUNTERS.
MILLIONS OF GUNS,
AND YET THEY HAD JUST A FEW MURDERS LAST YEAR.
THAT'S IT. A COUNTRY OF 30 MILLION PEOPLE. HERE'S MY QUESTION.
WHY IS IT THAT THEY'VE GOT ALL THESE GUNS LAYING AROUND,
YET THEY DON'T KILL EACH OTHER AT THE LEVEL THAT WE KILL EACH OTHER?
I THINK AMERICAN HISTORY IS, UH...
HAS A LOT OF BLOOD ON ITS HANDS.
AND GERMAN HISTORY DOESN'T?
NO.
AND BRITISH HISTORY?
I DON'T THINK AS MUCH.
OH, GERMANS DON'T HAVE AS MUCH BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS?
THEY DO, YES.
THE BRITS?
THEY RULED THE WORLD FOR 300 YEARS AT THE BARREL OF A GUN.
THEY'RE ALL VIOLENT PEOPLE.
THEY HAVE BAD GUYS, THEY HAVE CRIME.
THEY HAVE LOTS OF GUNS IN THE PAST. LOTS OF BLOOD.
IT'S AN INTERES POINT WHICH CAN BE EXPLORE
AND YOU'RE GOOD TO EXPLORE IT
AT GREAT LENGTH, BUT I THINK THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OPINION AS TO WHY WE ARE THE UNIQUE COUNTRY,
THE ONLY COUNTRY, THAT DOES THIS,
THAT KILLS EACH OTHER ON THIS LEVEL WITH GUNS?
WELL, WE HAVE...
PROBABLY A MORE MIXED ETHNICITY
THAN OTHER COUNTRIES, SOME OTHER COUNTRIES.
YOU THINK IT'S AN ETHNIC THING?
NO, I DON'T. I WOULDN'T GO SO FAR AS TO SAY THAT.
WE HAD ENOUGH PROBLEMS WITH CIVIL RIGHTS IN THE BEGINNING.
AND IT'S, UH...
BUT, UH, I HAVE NO ANSWER--
WHAT DO YOU MEAN,
YOU THINK IT'S THE MIXED ETHNICITY? I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
YOU SAID HOW IS IT THAT--
THAT WE'RE UNIQUE.
SO MANY AMERICANS, UH...
KILL EACH OTHER? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S TRUE, BUT EVEN--
WELL, YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE HIGHEST *** RATE WITH GUNS.
IT'S WAY HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
THE ONLY ANSWER I CAN GIVE YOU IS THE ONE I ALREADY GAVE YOU.
WHICH I?
WHICH IS THAT WE HAVE A HISTORY--
HISTORICALL?
OF VIOLENCE, PERHAPS MORE THAN MOST COUNTRIES
NOT MORE THAN RUSSIA, NOT MORE THAN JAPAN OR CHINA.
NOT MORE THAN GERMANY.
NOT MORE THAN GERMANY, BUT MORE THAN, CERTAINLY, MORE THAN CANADA.
I COME FROM FLINT, MICHIGAN, AND LAST YEAR A LITTLE 6-YEAR-OLD BOY
TOOK A GUN INTO A CLASSROOM AND SHOT AND KILLED A 6-YEAR-OLD GIRL.
AND, UH, IT WAS REALLY A TRAGIC THING.
THIS WAS KIDS THOUGH, A KID?
DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THIS? A 6-YEAR-OLD SHOOTING A 6-YEAR-OLD.
YEAH.
WELL, HERE'S MY QUESTION.
AFTER THAT HAPPENED, YOU CAME TO FLINT AND HELD A BIG RALLY.
MMM-HMM.
AND, YOU KNO, I JUST--
SO DID THE VICE PRESIDENT.
YEAH, BUT DID YOU FEEL IT WAS BEING AT ALL INSENSITIVE
TO THE FACT THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAD JUST GONE THROUGH--
ACTUALLY, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT AT THE TIME WE CAME.
WE CAME AND DID AN EARLY MORNING RALLY
AND WENT ON TO WHEREVER WE WERE GOING.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME THAT THIS KILLING HAD HAPPENED?
HAD YOU KNOWN, WOULD YOU HAVE NOT COME?
WOULD I HAVE CANCELLED THE, UH...
I DON'T-- IT'S HARD TO SAY.
IT WASN'T LIKE IT WAS ALREADY PLANNED.
I MEAN, THE CHOICE O COME THERE WAS MADE
AFTER THIS HORRIBLE KILLING TOOK PLACE.
MMM-HMM.
HAD YOU KNOWN THAT, WOULD YOU HAVE COME?
I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE NO IDEA.
MAYBE NOT?
MAYBE NOT.
THANK YOU.
DO YOU THINK YOU'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE
TO THE PEOPLE IN FLINT FOR COMING AND DOING THAT AT THAT TIME?
YOU WANT ME TO APOLOGIZE TO THE PEOPLE IN FLINT?
OR THE PEOPLE IN COLUMBINE FOR COMING AFTER THEIR HORRIBLE TRAGEDY?
WHY DO YOU GO TO THE PLACES AFTER THEY HAVE THESE HORRIBLE TRAGEDIES?
I'M A MEMBER OF YOUR GROUP HERE AND I'M--
WELL, I'M AFRAID WE DON'T AGREE ON THAT.
YOU THINK IT'S OK TO JUST COME AND SHOW UP AT THESE EVENTS?
NO.
YOU DON'T THINK IT'S OK?
MR. HESTON, JUST ONE MORE THING.
THIS IS WHO SHE IS, OR WAS.
THIS IS HER. PLEASE DON'T LEAVE.
MR. HESTON, PLEASE. TAKE A LOOK AT HER.
THIS IS THE GIRL.
HMM.