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>> THINK YOU NEED COLLEGE
FOR TOP NOTCH CAREER THINK
AGAIN.
GOOGLE IS BRINGING IN MORE
PEOPLE WITHOUT DEGREES.
GPAS ARE WORTHLESS.
WE FOUND THEY ACTUALLY DON'T
PREDICT ANYTHING.
MEANWHILE SOME COMPANIES ARE
ACTUALLY LOOKING AT YOUR SAT
SCORES IN THE HIRING
PROCESS.
HOW IMPORTANT IS COLLEGE IN
THE SCHEME OF THINGS?
JOINING US NOW FOR A FAIR
AND BALANCED DEBATE.
AMBER NORTHERN AND DIRECTOR
OF FREEDOM WORKS WHITNEY
NEIL.
NICE TO SEE BOTH OF YOU BYES
THIS MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> AMBER, FIRST YOUR
REACTION TO THAT COLLEGE
DEGREES COULD BE WORTHLESS.
TEST SCORES WORTHLESS AS A
WAY TO MEASURE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
SO COLLEGE DEGREES ARE
AREN'T WORTHLESS.
TEST SCORES AREN'T
WORTHLESS.
MORE THAN A QUARTER OF FOLKS
WITH 2 YEAR DEGREES, SO
THESE ARE FOLKS WITH
CREDENTIALS OTHER THAN
BACHELOR'S DEGREE ARE
EARNING MORE.
FOLKS CAN EARN GOOD MONEY.
WE NEED TO DO A MUCH BETTER
JOB AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL
OF TIEING WHAT FOLKS EXPECT
IN THE WORKPLACE TO WHAT
KIDS ARE LEARNING IN HIGH
SCHOOL.
SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE NOT
DOING A VERY GOOD JOB AT ALL
OF PREPARING THESE KIDS WHO
AREN'T GOING TO GO TO
COLLEGE TO ACTUALLY BE READY
TO GO TO GOOGLE AND OTHER
PLACES WHERE THEY CAN
ACTUALLY MAKE GOOD MONEY
WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO
COLLEGE.
OTHER COUNTRIES DO A GREAT
JOB OF THIS.
ASIA, CHINA, DO A WONDERFUL
JOB OF PREPARING KIDS RIGHT
OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL TO ENTER
THE WORK PLACE, WE DON'T.
>> WHITNEY LEAD ME BRING YOU
IN ON THIS.
HIS POINT IS WE HAVE FIVE
HIRING ATTRIBUTES AT GOOGLE.
NUMBER ONE THING WE LOOK FOR
IS GENERAL COGNITIVE ABILITY
AND IT'S NOT IQ.
IT'S NOT TEST SCORES.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO HIS
POINT?
>> I THINK HE IS RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THESE GUYS THAT
ARE CEOS OF MAJOR
CORPORATIONS, THEY KNOW
WHAT'S BEST TORE THEIR
COMPANIES WHO THEY LOOK TO
HIRE.
A LOT OF COMPANIES HAVE
STHIR OWN TEST WHEN YOU COME
IN TO INTERVIEW THAT THEY
SET UP INTERNALLY THAT BEST
PREDICT GOING TO DO WELL IN
THEIR WORKFORCE.
WE LOOK AT THE GRAND SCHEME
OF EDUCATION TODAY AND THE
PRESIDENT OF ITHACA COLLEGE,
HE USED TO WORK FOR THE GRE
BOARD.
HE EVEN SAID THAT FOR THEIR
UNIVERSITY TEST SCORES
AREN'T A GOOD PREDICTOR OF
THEIR STUDENT'S AT THE TENEL
PERFORMANCE BOTH IN SCHOOL
AND IN THE WORKFORCE.
AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE CE
OHS OF CEOS FACEBOOK,
MICROSOFT.
APPLE, STEVE JOBS NONE OF
THEM FINISHED COLLEGE.
IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT A
COLLEGE DEGREE IS A
PREDETERMINE NANT OF HOW
SUCCESSFUL YOU ARE GOING TO
BE IN THE WORKFORCE.
>> AMBER, HERE IS SOME
UNEMPLOYMENT RATES.
GO AHEAD, TAKE THAT AWAY.
>> NO.
I JUST WANT TO GET THE POINT
IN THAT TEST SCORES DO
MATTER THERE WERE SOME
FANTASTIC RESEARCH BY SOME
GREAT ECONOMISTS A FEW YEARS
AGO.
THEY FOLLOWED 1 MILLION
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN
INTO ADULTHOOD.
YOU YOU KNOW WHAT THEY
FOUND?
THEY FOUND THAT ONCE THEY --
THESE WERE KIDS WITH
HIGH-TEST SCORES.
THEY MADE MORE MONEY.
THEY WERE MORE LIKELY TO
GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE.
THEY WERE MORE LIKELY TO GET
A GREAT JOB.
MORE LIKELY TO LIVE IN HIGH
INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS AND
MORE LIKELY TO SAFE MORE
MONEY FOR RETIREMENT.
THOSE PEOPLE WITH TEST
SCORES.
>> UNEMPLOYMENT RATES HERE.
WITH THE COLLEGE DEGREE OF
8.2%.
HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE 6. A%.
ALMOST DOUBLE.
DOES SHE HAVE POINT?
>> I THINK WE HAVE MAJOR
UNEMPLOYMENT PROBLEM IN THIS
COUNTRY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE
WITH COLLEGE DEGREES THAT
CAN'T FIND JOBS.
IF YOU HAVE A CEO OF GOOGLE
SAYING THIS COLLEGE DEGREE
ISN'T A PREDETERMINE NANT OF
EMPLOYMENT.
I MIGHT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT
TO GET INTO HIGH LEVELS OF
STUDENT LOAN DEBT IF THERE
IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET
TRAINING ELSEWHERE AND FIND
GAINFUL SUCCESSFUL
EMPLOYMENT.
THE JOB MARKET IS ALWAYS
CHANGING AND EVOLVING.
THE CAREERS OF 10 YEARS AGO
ARE NOT THE CAREERS WE SEE
TODAY.
FIND ALTERNATIVE METHODS
RATHER THAN GETTING IN HEAVY
STUDENT LOAN DEBT.
>> FASCINATING DEBATE
CONSIDERING WE ARE PUTTING
THAT MONEY IN 529 PLAN FOR
KIDS AT HOME I'M SCRATCHING
MY HEAD GOING IS IT ALL
WORTH IT?
THANK YOU GUYS, AMBER AND
WHITNEY WE APPRECIATE YOU