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During souls, the aim of this Das is that once more all the saints see this together, see it sympathetically; should not pull and tug,
and this path of saints is not of pulling and tugging. It is done with love. Now they will see again.
Now their thought appeared to Das just like e.g. if there is a blind person and he heard from an sighted man that – vow, how beautiful was the light,
moon’s light at night. From him heard another blind man. He also started singing the praise that how lovely was the light, moon light was spread everywhere.
It was wonderful. Like this, this information spread to thousands of people. Then, if someone asks them, “Brother, what does the moon look like?
They say that there is no moon, but the light is amazing.” So, their theory got stuck here in my mind. Now, there is light without moon!
Show me any light without any reason, without any thing. Das is not saying from a theory. Then, all the saints gave the evidence, those saints who saw God,
met God, they wrote speeches similar to the Vedas which is written in the Vedas, is written in the Holy Quran Sharif, is written in Holy Bible,
and is written in Holy Guru Granth Sahib, and you have listened to the accounts of those great men whom Das mention about, who personally saw God in Sachkhand,
the Shasvat Sthaan (Eternal Place) i.e. in Ritdhaam, Satlok, and when came down and saw, found Him the same. Then they told the same story.
Now the theory of approximately all the great men who are well-known today has come before you. Likewise, Maharishi Dayanand ji also describes God as formless.
See his Satyarth Prakash. Now Das is telling you as it is. I will not add anything from my side. Because we have bought these scriptures,
we are respectfully reading them and also making you read it. See, this is written in it and just now I will present the scriptures
of the four holy religions before you. And still if you have any confusion in your mind, then buy them and once again have a look at them,
and then we will sit together and make a decision that what is the story actually. Then the society will get one direction, will not remain misled.
Now see. “Ath SatyarthprakashH Maharishi Dayanandswamivirachit”... from where is it published? “Vaidik Pustakalaya Dayanand Ashram, Kesar Ganj, from Ajmer”...
“Ath SatyarthprakashH Maharishi Dayanandswamivirachit, Vaidik Pustakalaya, Dayanand Ashram, Kesar Ganj, Ajmer.”
Now someone asked him that what do you consider God like? He said that – “I consider God to be formless.”
Saptam Samullas (Seventh Samullas). See below page no. 190
Question: Is God in form or formless?
Maharishi’s answer: Formless
Further on page 212, again this Saptam (7th) Samullas on page no. 212, it is written below.... “Do you consider God to be formless or in form?”
Maharishi ji’s answer that – “I consider Him formless.”
Then, third time on page no. 225. This is Ashtam (Eigth) Samullas and on page no. 225. The question is that – Is God in form or formless?
Maharishi ji’s answer – Formless.
He has also given more comments much further ahead. You can read this,
but Das wants to show this that these great men believed God to be like they had in their thoughts and in whatever way they understood,
they composed a text based on their perception, and it is attempted to make them in such a way them in such a way that in the time to come,
it may be that someone may not know the Vedas, so we may do a simple interpretation of the them in a common language.
What are Upnishads? An Upnishad is this that the great men who, based on whatever experience they had in their entire life, whatever they thought about God,
perceived or understood whether from reading some scripture, whatever they concluded from their thought or from their experience,
whatever they saw, composed an entire book. It is final from his side. Never mind. Now whatever those great men attempted, that was correct.
Now, up to this Das agrees with this Radhasoami panth and Maharishi Dayanand ji’s viewpoint that they tried to make a living being rid of worship of other gods.
Now where they have given the definition of that God that does not match with the scriptures. Therefore, Das has by again contemplating it,
and then by matching with all the scriptures, has composed this scripture in a novel way. Take this and look at it. If there is any error, then tell Das.
“Paribhasha Prabhu Ki” (The Definition of God). In this, the mantra of the Vedas, based on whatever extent Das’s intellect worked, have also been written.
And in addition to this, I also beg forgiveness that I am a child of these Maharishis, and a student does ask questions,
and it is a duty of the teachers to resolve them. Now this has been finalised that until now... whatever theories have been to date,
except the great men who saw God, say only this that God is formless. Who are amongst those? Like, detailed accounts of all the great men have come before you,
one who has listened to the discourses on all four days. Respected Guru Nanak Dev ji met God. At that time, there was no Sikh religion,
and when the ten great men were, until then there was no Sikh religion. Everyone used to be a Hindu. And three thousand years ago from today,
neither was anyone a Hindu, nor a Muslim, nor Sikh, Nor Christian, there only used to be pious souls who sued to worship according to the Vedas.
Thereafter, some defects started coming in these learned people who used to read the Vedas. After that, these religions started forming.
Even if today we understand these original scriptures that what do they want to tell then there will be one religion; there will be no religion.
I am telling the truth to you. So, they told this form their thought that God is formless,
and those who saw as well as the Vedas and the holy scriptures of the four holy religions say that He is in form.
Das only says this that in this once more make a decision that He is in form or formless. Now, where do we have to go?
To God because whichever great men are related to all the Radhasoami cult, they say this that we have to go to Sachkhand, will go to only light.
Then, now tell without that God we are suffering here, and someone says that a spiritual discourse is going on there, and is Maharaj ji there?
Then, he says that – “No, Maharaj ji is formless.” Then tell, what will you come here for? You will not come even if called for.
So, Das says this that I will once again present these scriptures before you, and peacefully listen to it. Do not think that I want to call someone bad.
Not at all/ das does not have this much courage. I will only leave the decision to you that what seems correct to you and what seems wrong.
And, if you like it, then what is there to worry about. Let’s suppose, I tell your thousand rupee note to be that of hundred,
and you are confident that our thousand rupee note is correct, then what is there to worry about. Worry will be for two reasons.
Either you do not have confidence, or you know that in reality, it is not of thousand, it is of ten rupees.
You have intentionally misled the world i.e. someone that I have a thousand rupee note.
So, these saints about whom I am telling....any saint.. if they are right, then why worry?
So, consider this Das to be a fool that he will keep barking, and what has he got to do. If it is correct, why worry? And if you are worried, become alert.
And if you have become worried, then become vigilant. Then find its solution that actually why is that ignorant saint saying about everyone.
Now many devout souls say this that this saint of yours criticizes everyone.
Sometime ago, the government seized five hundred rupee notes... duplicate.. and used to show on T.V. that look, this is real and this is fake.
This is how these are not completely matching to each other. So, was the government criticizing you? Think yourself; it was for your good.
If it is okay, then what is there to worry about? At least match it once with it, and if it is fake, then brother, throw it away.
Make arrangements for yourself. And do not get deceived in future.