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uh... for those of you don't normally my means of yours form and im
director of the alberni environmental coalition
and uh... we've been following the return call
prospect the part of her need to come here
coal port
just started when the drinking here wanting and
union contribute to that but
week we have
been given federal government funding to be
participants in the
review of raven coal and uh...
of the project
our expectation and uh...
john projects that c_e_o_ of
the raven projection said that they're gonna have their studies done by the
third for the first quarter
means the end of march
still gonna move ahead so we're expecting
something happening and so
everybody's been ramping up their the people there
concerned about the projects her wrapping up this is a decent and this
was one of them
one so we thought was
an event that we could do to kind of highlight
so i'm
introduced the speakers
and uh...
we got roberta stevens is with the
d_c_ shellfish association and john snyder there's roberta roberta stevenson
stands for
and and john snyder from pool watch
he will do
their topics and stuff like that
but but i'm doing the commercial traffic
the for the first commercial is that there will be
donation
vase
looks like it was
passed around if you're able to
contribute to stb
towards the cost of this even we'd appreciate it
and the reason that we talked about the the
albury environmental coalition is been around for thirty
plus years
and for i think since about nineteen
eighty nine
sometime in the nineteen th late nineties re re-worded and uh...
where we work for him with the efforts of bob's going and joy johnson we were
successful in getting
funding from the uh...
gaming associations that were around
so
but this year we've had our
severely cut so
were in that kind of time of our life that
decide whether we can we've got enough money to run through this year
should decide whether we can continue on and so on
needs financial support normally we were
fineman
doing we're doing
so that's the first commercial if you can't afford something we'd appreciate
it
the second commercial list for popped up and giving at this place
this night next week twenty-eight
we've been an operator market garden insult the farmers market
and i've been have given parts about organic gardening for
well quite a while fifth once a year fifteen times
and fifteen years or more
and we have a lot of people think this this year were doing now
approximate entitled gardening for life
the by a dynamic way so we're talking about by a dynamic gardening and would
be
more than happy to people are interested in
gardening and gardening and holistic fashion
it'll be a very interesting
discussion here so
without will have the do speakers and then
question answers
uh...
wrap-up two movements and pine sol
i'm gonna invite roberta stevenson to represent
traffic rollers of british columbia of which there are some
incinerator
this is gonna be fun i'm really glad this is a small crowd is as my companion
knows i worried about it
hiking tell you
i have made this presentation many many times over the last year i don't have
speaking notes because i've got a kind of memorized
and every time i get a
seated outside and i don't
hurt so you never know when i'm in a state
and i don't know you there
what's happened with this presentation is
three years ago we started dealing with this issue
itself as far as i'm going to use the term levi
really i've worked for than shellfish growers industry association it is
comprised of a hundred and sixty paid members
grow
a quiet shellfish in this province of around thirty million dollars worth of
product
and i work for a board of directors like most attribute these doing and uh... is
eleven people on the board in there
from hyderabad
all the way down the coast west coast east coast all of
british columbia
so that's my ek
fate worse than death
is working for eleven businessmen who are all pretty
starch uh... rednecks in their own right
who don't tend to be much on the tree hugger level
this is the first time in the sixty years of this organization has been
operative
that ever have they passed a motion
to say business
actor about study and understand
we do not opposed to other businesses pro-business reproach ops
we wanna see our province growin prosper
and uh... it's it's a win-win in most circumstances but this mind is in the
wrong place to prime time
what you said also to that you know what i've given this talk so many times an
you know nice clean audience i hope
you guys tonight no hard questions
versus oftentimes it can be a very hard line against them
for example i gave the same time at economic
summit for vancouver island and and i'm all
and i was on a panel of
uh... some
pretty black sea people including
uh... call my guys so
a you know it's always challenge to be within that group so thank you for being
a friendly school audience super alberni i really appreciate it
and i'm gonna get the same presentation as i said that we always get
and uh...
we're very proud of what we do here in british columbia as i said
an industry that's been growing shellfish certainly in the based on
recent region for a hundred years now hard to believe it
it's certainly not in its infancy
and we do employ about a thousand people in
in that regard we feel that were
capable of taking on reagan old because we offer an awful lot of jobs and
generate a lot of money
as well
so we feel like that we can take this on in equal playing field
into that and i have given this presentation as i said many times and i
just wanted to know
and given it to all the rotary clubs
i've had to give it
to campbell river uh...
uh... different town councils
and
uh... is
the following speaker after me whilst tell you we're very proud of the fact
that uh...
after we gave this presentation to the regional district
of comox traffic on a
they did pass a motion to
break on this uh... coal-mining too we have more studies done
there after i gave a presentation macomb ox town council they also passed in
equal motion and putting the brakes on this until more studies were done
and following that and saving it for
last week gave one to the courtney
town council and they also now have passed a motion
equally as strong
and before that the cumberland town council passed an equal
kind of motion but now i'm told on february twenty fifty one
they will do in equally strong motion
so i'd like some of the day
passes
of our supporters in this cause
and uh... cole watchin ourselves and everyone else involved is very proud of
the fact that that's a pretty impressive list
i really believe that we are making headway
i do believe that our message is getting out
and i want to tell you that we're not gonna stop until this thing is stopped
what do we have a risk we have a lot of risks we have uh... a lot of jobs we
have a lot of money
but more importantly then all that we have
moody of foo
mood at risk that nowadays is pretty precious
and this picture itself is from the west coast of ankle rylan
i want you to know that uh... while western bank over island does not cost
as much shellfish farms is other areas
potentially you have breadbasket here that is
absolutely incredible
this picture is taken up by fair harbor
and it's a kind you get checked the set first nation farming shellfish up in
that region
we do know that doesn't market for our products is insatiable in fact it we can
grow up
and the world wants what british columbia house they know that our waters
clean they know that our industries very regulated
and because of that we have huge profits and minor food
so glad to hear organic grow our own
whatever you growing canada and the world knows that that we got at
under control here and they can trust the source
we didn't get a huge
it's requests from you can't try in it to come and buy our products
because
educated people in china and other parts of the world know that their products
are as highly regulated and
and west seafood
uh... they're not willing to risk eating a lot of it
so as i said are are production has uh... substantial
and ten
i'll use this slide just emphasize the fact that we do generate revenue for the
province
uh... here's the tonnage that we uh... grow
this is a twenty ten stat
and uh... we are were not increasing our production for many reasons
and all talk about that later
but as you probably are familiar with jack starlight like to throw this in
because a long time ago maybe twenty years ago it was said the statement
and it is so true
we cannot keep the last
of the last of the last
and pharmacy is something that
is sustainable
it's green
it's potion wise it's uh...
it's got every good label on it it's now considered organic
and we're very proud of that so around the world they recognize firm shellfish
is the best choice on the menu
but we do have a hurdles facing us in this food production
and when i give this talk this is where i jump into the bad part
the number one hurdle for us is raven coal mine
now you would think that wouldn't be more than ocean acidification bushing
acidification people here probably familiar with it but it's where
global warming has made our oceans acidity change
the ph level has gone on
a wacky sort of
rise that has created
a real crisis for selfish to reproduce
the aren't able to make their shells at the same density
be there uh... well you know in a if the future holds the worst case scenario
we're gonna all have to learn to love t chile fish
'cause that's what's growing really well in today's climate
not really but
cell battery you know follows through with that we're having a hard time
finding seed to grow our animals anymore we buy our see-through hatcheries in
washington state
they're having a hard time
producing waster seed right now
uh...
and and were highly regulated industry has everything in canada is regulated to
death
and uh... there's a tight margin there i mean you wonder where there's not more
selfish farming in your own backdoor
and i can tell you that doing business at the bottom
this in mind here is very expensive
the shellfish farms that do operate down berkeley sound here
spend an hour and a half transporting all there
their gear and their people in there
you know it's a really hard slog for making money and that's why right now
the majority of the industry is located
right below where the written phone lines and involved
teacher instead we we see really at the earliest
but right now it's being sent region that is the closest access for labor
transport processing airport
and and it's a hard thing to compete with so if you wanna make money that's
an area that's bs here to do been way down the inlet
the recall mind puts us at risk
it's only five kilometers from our beaches and for us the wrist acceptance
is zero
when we started conversing with the raven guys we ask for more testing
honor initial meetings three years ago i told them that if they were that
confident that they wouldn't put anyone out of business
surely they can put up a bond that would assure us of that
that we could draw a line if our businesses for were to be shut down
so that those families who lost their
they're growing opportunities
could draw on that money until such time as the water was clean again will as you
can imagine that was unmatched
as well as our request for more thorough testing
so that they have not met our demands
and we do consider ourselves this old cliche which is canary in the palm wine
and only here at all the time it gets kinda tiresome
by a reality we're testing the water every single day in order to sell our
products for you to eat
we have to prove that they're clean
their filter feeders her eating phytoplankton
and if the water isn't clean beatty
those
minerals
into their systems and hold onto them
and uh... they would become inedible
the comox coal miners ishaan clearly here on this map
i mean the com article in the raven
coal miners shown clearly on the map here
and you can see the proximity and i'm sure much of the following speaker will
talk to the following a bit more about what's even beyond that
but here's our shellfish beds in the band so i'm just bill
low the coal mine
and uh... you know when i was coming here tonight i was thinking how
cool it is that you guys
weep we always say food not cool
in my line of business
so i was happy tonight to see that it was fisheries not call for port alberni
because when i think about port alberni you know this whole taka centered around
paying sound
and when i was coming over here i thought
what sport albertine gut feelings and i'm sure john will hit on this it's true
why should you worry about being sound you're over here in portal bring about
this beautiful land line
you got to immediately as a return one of the big things that you got to lose
is fisheries
i know the people in this
region value that river
and i want to tell you this thing goes through
i don't know maybe you'll learn to like killing fish too
the based on region is the focus of the stock we did grow uh... an awful lot of
products that we have mostly small family farms
and the world wants what we have i've traveled all over the world selling our
products as it
particularly in europe
and being no
that this is the food they want to eat
our industry amb
it as i said operates here on the west coast this particular picture on the
left side that i put in there that's uh...
the hallway it and way at first nation
uh... which you're familiar with
but uh...
primarily our products to come from being sound
when people travel all over the world and another thing that they always come
back
noting is that
they'll be
i don't know where it
florida are new yorker something nothing
and be misters rahman menu
people come up to me and say you burnished one
t
so we do know that we become quite sentiments
but um... back to the mining problem
this light here is is um... the comparative set we've done
as i've said in most of the uh... places that i give this talk
and spend the whole time comparing
which i need to have to do but
the reality is is that money does speak
and we feel that we have a good compared of here as i said
we have the sixty six hundred full-time jobs in the same region that's under
threat by this mine
um...
in this mine is certainly a good sixteen years we've been
now growing shellfish in that region for a hundred years now
yang if the water stays clean we can see no reason why we went on other hundred
years
i myself plan on ending as shortly but uh... i do hope that future generations
can enjoy that clean water
and carry on
the mine is a very short lived operation
and uh...
bailout to proclaim all kinds of things but uh... mind as i said let me start
out at the laboratory results not alone julia issue here
because the cost of the future generations is harsh
where's that
well there's a big blend
their goes
future generations you know i i it was somebody here was noting that letter in
the paper this week from
uh... missus miss small lady talked about
than mine guys like to say well if we had the mind then surely our children
would come back from
uh... going on
and be able to live close to home and awesome all us parents wish for that
my own children live just down the street and am i delighted i gotta tell
ya i am
but if they had to come back here to work in their even coal mine i might
have to see look at
you're not by tobacco
i don't think that that's necessarily a big drawing card but it is talked about
continually by the mine
and uh...
in reality the cost of clean up after the mines we taking the time to do this
uh... research
because like collapsed on the stand
the shellfish growers have received some federal assistance in hiring two
researchers who've specialize in marine biology
impart look at the history of mining in the province
look at the cost of cleanup afterwards
and try to help us to understand interests of this mine
so i
it's mall print but trust me the numbers arent
one thing that we've done in our campaign to stop the mine that is a
really good uh... uh...
effective tools when we got all of that will declined from below where the old
mine wasn't cumberland
antique plans from clean beach further down
this is a picture of that
and it's a very
fective tool because yes clams well grow below where the old mines were in
cumberland
but as you can see they're not very attractive
and at this point my talk i'd like to do a comparative about our ability to brand
or product
to sell to the world
it is tainted
we have to tell people please either product you're really enjoy it
and find a way
it's grown adjacent to a coal mine
the branding damage for us
of having a mind that post-war beds will be substantial
there's a cost about that i haven't taken the time to calculate
but hopefully one of these days we well because it's a
total branding issue and branding is everything in our markets
so when we do go dancin we take the time to take the two different plans
uh... we find that to be very effective
i mentioned that day was familiar with your area and i wanted to by inserted
the slide particularly just for this talk i wanted to uh...
give a little background to the fact that um... seven years ago
uh... for five years i worked for the challan tribal council
the map their shows no lefthand corner and the ni challan its reach
and uh... i have to tell you i they really enjoyed my time with them
any opportunities that they have in this region are insatiable
there are some beaches any areas on the west coast of ankara on that support
shellfish aquaculture unlike anywhere else
on the planet
there's so much tidal flow
of nutrient rich water
that farming shellfish on the west coast of vancouver island
should the prices rise which i think they will globally into the future
is is anna ary mark bubble opportunity
when i
did the work with you charlie that they want to be elders and asked them how to
brown their product
and one of the things that stick steering near to my heart was that the
elders say that they always had a saying out here in each element plan
which is when the time vote that table lists that
now how cool is that
if we were really believe that when the tide is out the table is set
then i'm counting on them to protect this resource
the first nations have been fairly quiet about where they stand at this you'll
see on the on the list of supporters that i've handed out
uh... you know that we are getting a lot of play back from them
but i do believe in my heart and i and i will never speak for for a others
but i do believe that they are concerned and i think will be hearing more from
them in the upcoming months
because this land is very precious
and as i said it has huge opportunity
and we don't want to put that at risk
what's gonna happen when this alberni inlet has to be dredged to be just a bit
bigger to comedy ships
what's gonna happen to that river at that time i'll leave that to john
schneider to predict
but ain't gonna be pretty
so i do
you know the west coast vancouver island quite well
but i also know how to party
and every year we have a shellfish party in in the comox valley that uh... s the
tickets we sell two hundred twenty tickets
and we still out in in about two and a half days
in april for an event that we do in june
people come from
all over at the world
dinner with us
you really need to trust me on this what we have here is precious
um...
and
it's been proven over and over again
the tourism opportunities the culinary opportunities
the branding opportunities
we feel confident that is the world becomes a more more unfortunetly
contaminated place
there's fewer and fewer places that are clean enough to grow our products
and how precious isn't that we can do that here
the world wants what we have we can grow enough of it
and i'm here to ask you all today
to help us support
clean growing water in the region
and keep the areas of it
you know we might all be paroled they're so cute recession
things are going to hell in a handbag
but will be able to eat
food is becoming something pretty precious and uh...
were proud of what we grow
maggie y
came well
shellfish one oh one for just one minute
in in the summertime when the water gets where we have a bib real
which is a organism that draws quickly if it's heated up that many animals
carry it and if they're not transported
within four hours to a certain cold temperature
they're not edible
and because the alberni canal is is long as it is
it's often impossible for farmers on the west coast bank over i'm going to get
the products it into refrigeration quickly enough
to transport is a huge issue but also
testing the product for it to be clean enough there are not a lot of testing
stations
so it's a chicken and egg
without those kind of
and infrastructure yeah e
it's a a long story that made short there's a few issues maggie i mean one
thing that's happened bad on the west coast of
vancouver island that hasn't happened anywhere else is the sea otter
sea otters decimated many of the shellfish beds in in each element
territory the second bad thing that's happened uh...
uh... adjustment but no no
so it's a it's a sea otter it's a lack of testing facilities
uh...
it's
red tides red tides are increasing
i mean uh... you know nowadays we're getting read to heights that lasts all
year long in in a local vernon lead over byline and power reverts
but primarily out here it's constituting business it's the high fuel costs
and the distance that the farmers have to run
so that they can't come home every night
and i know it might working with the new challenges people
then not coming home at night
very on
popular
so the staying out camping makes it very costly
but as the demand for the product increases in the price goes up which now
is
i believe that
that a lot of that will be dealt with
there's there's there
that's a that's a huge topic for another day as you know there's so many issues
that
that make up that uh... lack of capacity
uh... but that but the opportunity remains and i can tell you when i went
with the not grant to europe
the uh... european
populace especially germans are extremely aware culture that we have
here with the nato
with are absent aboriginal people and i think
huge selling point
i'd as well
and all
the best thing that the government could do would be too
stopover regulating us we have uh... seventeen
regulators to deal with that makes it
very onerous and not just waste people's time but
shellfish farming is is between a rock and a hard place were not fishermen
and we're not farmers and as you know with the fin fish
issue are rising in british columbia
um... there was a court decision that suddenly we would belong to d_f_ all
rather than the provincial government
and that's like throwing out the baby with the bath water
because now we're under the guise of department official is an ocean
which is has historically damage so many fisheries
but now the they're afraid to do anything
and we're dealing with a very old-school populace so
part of my job is is to go out on a wiry couple months in and lobby the federal
government to acknowledge that
that we are farmers not fishermen so we're not a fishery
and that's uh... created a stagnant growth in our industry as well
it's politics
cats are it's sorrentino or sodium crushes unspoken corrupt
gold
philosophy
last night
yes please
yes that's right
yet go figure
make no mistake of all i can say one thing about that since it wasn't a
question but
this is a political issue now okay
we're over the science part
sciences guy you know if it doesn't studies and they've submitted
and that
that's not the deal now now that deal is
this is about politics
so as a male action comes you'll see the people will start ah... running their
campaign
and and it's your time is that as a voter to
asked them for a stance on that now don mcrae has not come out
oppose nor in favor
uh... but is may approaches he will be squeeze to to make an opinion one way or
the other side will make sure that happens
and at one of it
thanks
john schneider drag me out to i
had a couple classes the wine annexing you know we were promising a flotilla
when they do that
win that election happened so now people are calling all the time saying once in
a photo we're going to happen
so make no mistake we know how to do the media and that we know how to get
attention and we will be doing that when the election time comes to make sure
that
part
cuts right
had
portable politicians
r_e_m_ l_a_ uh...
expresses
gratitude to be invited but was i'm able to leave the house and toria there's
lots of
stuff going on down there
but now
yeah what about pardo bernie well one of the things that the environmental
coalition has been involved in for
a long time
was the half want
from the pokemon
over forty or fifty years below duo empty here
somehow in our historic past history someone
gave us a
videotape or
and it was a videotape in those days when we saw of
uh... dis for just the bottom of the enlightenment
it was done with a cannon ball on the end of a
cable
mckenna ball
mannerism mark uh... like one
meter high from cannonball
and it was dropped
periodically down
the online great so rate near the old fall there was sludge that was
meter deep
and it went ok
i think they were talking and miles in those days when i went over ucla law
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dropping down
you know virtually and measurable
and over the years there's been a certain amount of analysis done about
sludge
and it contains like some
pretty bad starts
dioxins
syrians
pcb mercury harm because a lot of highly technical dioxins
you the most toxic manmade chemicals known to man right
demonstrate the called man me and it's poison made human beings
men reason that's all that's the uh...
but that's the uh... that's the legacy that we have track if you're right that
legacy
and we were we were always the coalition does always lobbying i don't even know
how we got the film
but we don't have a post-test
somehow showed up on them
had to be back to some but it was uh...
we were always lobbying to get it over there
that this slideshow right
who were kept lobbying are lobbying lobbying and eventually
the uh...
mood movement scientists and the uh...
hemingway
told us that
best thing to do is not to disturb it but they get it covered over with the
silk knits from uh... the rivers and you've got it covered over or you could
do it actually cup cover over but so what has happened is that with
insulted over which is a way that
toxic chemicals were
taken on a bit
pretty human
environment here in the earth while developed life they've sequestered lots
of bad things in portions and uh...
rivers and streams like that but we do have pay toxic sludge here
raven colours proposing at least to dredge some of that i can
you know we've been concerned about it
and uh...
i've never really got an adequate answer you know the the yeah
guys that were overseeing the uh...
development companies science here
song or you know they're gonna tell cyber they're going to pass that
not in terms of is it going to get resuspended blindly cooperation on this
call port
protesting at the see whether it's it's safe to picked it up and profit some
work seniority or that they have to put it on one great that's what we're
testing not passing it
about what impact could this have
in the fishery
could it could be performed really
and uh... but we don't know we'd were not able to answer that question but we
passed the question
but it didn't get answered in the uh...
submissions that were put forward about what they're going to look for
and that will see you know i remember when the first plans came over about the
hair
application information requirements
i a m
i spoke at the meeting and so i was a underwhelmed
what day
propose to do here
and has really change from beginning to end and still underwhelmed so the
science that's being done is not
worthwhile death cert so i can answer the questions that we have
so roberto is it accurate and it's not going to be a political fight sold out
some dot us the other things up
concerned as well as well
you're gonna have coldness potentially blowing around
with someone's house fifty meters away that's not good slide guitar
whole community and pam whether they solve out or not
they're not gonna solve the whole problem of diesel
exhaust here and that's a big concern right and that's going to be
mothers of their same three tracks on our forever
who aren't on the roundout sixteen years
at spots about playing mcnair something that could be done about that
mineral proposals that buchanan
so anyhow bastions of just to say where we consider but we are concerned about
our fishery here because i can't
that has a bit of a risk associated with it so
to bring you up-to-date i guess on the political level of the project
john snyder who is uh...
main man i guess as far as uh... nicole articles and it's been their public face
and uh... than extremely valuable job for all of us sometime
bring us up-to-date
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now a little bit
so um...
my presentations not to be hard to act like for burgess was
she's a hard act to follow all do my best
so when my name is john snyder omni president of coal watch comox valley
eleven fannie bay
and uh... on them
pretty involved in
with this
issue for the last three and a half years
initially went to the first
uh... homie
uh... november of two thousand nine went compliance
set out to be
for community what they propose to do it and subsequently
about a month lady we had our own tell-all meeting
decided that um...
reformer group and that's all qual walked with started and
i started out to you soon
probably one of two things and now i'm doing
quite a few things
but it's well worth it because uh...
many people in my community are very concerned
so what i'd like to do is just give you a general update a
all types in a couple subjects that were parolee
already young elaborated on
and uh...
the first is the local uh... quarterly government motions
that were passed by the uh... comox valley regional district comox
town council in the
city council
and uh... were hoping uh... on the
the troubled council will
re reiterate their concerns and pass a motion similar to the ones that were
passed by the other
three local governments what basically these
motions o
really reiteration zip you will love them
motions that were passed in two thousand ten
and uh...
basically all of their
themselves when im he did
so
uh... reported just said she went around and was given this presentation since
one of these local governments
so consequently they plenary read looked looked at this
issue again
decided to take action
without going into the details
basic what their they're doing your opposing the for the processing of the
application
until about three things are done comprehensive walked for mapping
union around the mine site
bain sound baseline studies and
uh... a renewed call for an independent review panel but public hearings utah
that's basically what they're saying
uh...
and
i think they're long overdue and and i'm glad you did we get to begin taking
these motions
certainly courtney
in my opinion
um...
if you would ask me
four months ago if they would've revisit this
probably toughest nut to crack in my opinion
but uh...
through armful a lot of uh...
hard work for a lot of people including roberta
uh... we were successful in getting these motions passport but i wonder what
i wanted to do
is on
dirt public characterize them as a fairly conservative
city council
by a large
um...
dictate you uniquely wilson and and and so on
former firmly reasonable we're going to do what you did it
to give you the remarks
made during the debate on the resolution
and i was sitting in the peanut gallery went well this was being said
in these remarks were counselor john ambler
for just one of what she'll listen
to what he had to say during the debate all this
was uh... quoted in the newspaper in the pool march delegate
uh... he was saying that there's a growing concern from everybody i talk to
you
that the cost would be too high when he was
talking about the if they pull my work
come about
you then go to the presentation from the bt show push growers association the
couple weeks ago urging poor need to take action on the issues
and mississippi is wall
is the worst kind of summing up
how he was in a boating obviously they voted unanimously so he was voting
expressing his
uh...
his intentions double replaced it
to bring in one industry
at the destruction of another
is robbing peter to pay pall yadda
this is not and i development
this is not invite industry
it's just not anti-gay anything
this is for all
this is protecting an existing industry disservice world for a hundred years
and will continue to serve us well i think those
coming from him
john m worries
i don't know who you know he's like consider mcdonnell-douglas of reason on
the court and counsel but this is a very conservative council song
his words i guess to be were somewhat profound
low levels
uh... the
local high level of public concern an opposition that's ever
uh...
i think it's very significant and and uh... in no small part these
uh... these emotions were passed on the
through the efforts of uh... roberto
that's that's a great question
perhaps you should uh...
they weren't put
i think that's a great idea
so uh...
a couple of the things so but what i wanted to do it
but not another couple things i just want to share with you
there's a lot of this stuff palm
this happening on our neck of the woods over their own outside of the home
problem of a lot of the stuff filters over over here or not i know spektr
either
said in this mess a lot of this stuff too
your newspaper some of the explaining some of it don't we
some of us
some of you might be in our list serve since ever so
processing the fact that uh... development yesterday was that uh...
the environmental law center uh...
issued a request to the uh...
to europe
the heart of uh...
soon the uh... health officer
uh... issue no drinking water hajur protection order
uh... from the
pros martin the effects of the propose more in our drinking water
to me it's just really
significant development
and uh...
the berlin wall
clinic has been working on this for running to class let alone when i asked
him to look into it
and uh... marketing when before me stay market went before
details of what we're asking for a bit
basically ah...
it was requested to drinking water officer issuer drinking water health
hazard prevention order
regarding the proposed raven pull project persuade to section twenty five
the drinking water protection act
so that they did this on our behalf we with the client
and uh... so they'd they sent a letter to uh... doctor hanson is the uh...
the uh... health officer on that island for the bank who were on adult authority
so basically what we were what the world sold this is like a fifteen page request
to move they set up
reasons why
were asking what we're asking for
and uh...
you know section twenty five b_ of the drinking water protection that part of
our cars authorizes
you being doctor reinstate issue an order if you have reason to believe
there is a significant restoring imminent
drinking water health hazard
now we had doctors yields when when there's a noted
hydro geologists hydrologists from the normal
and uh... we have been
uh... dual report
based did he needed a review of the error yeah yes missus
the situation where principal just
talked about all the time and time again
what it is it's cooks it sets out the informational requirements that they
if the applicant has twin clued in there
application
to complete
to make sure everything's completed a replication so heave review
uh... the terms of reference
and uh...
basically all also soul will continue your says attach please find the latest
report
repair body springsteen highly respected by both geologists an engineer doctored
usually
his report clearly demonstrates that there is a reason to believe that the
proposed for my poses a significant risk of an imminent drinking water health
hazard
furthermore
dr women's report shows that the currently propose assessment process
and monitoring program will not adequately addressed at bristol
a lot of our request was based on his report and you know basically what we've
seen so far
week we don't think that the the at
environmental assessment process so far as uh...
is adequate so
so that's where we are a perfect
got a lot of us it was uh... cbc radio and chatman setup
uh... of story on it so it just one piece of the polls in the world looking
at
and uh...
i think uh...
uh... roberto alluded to the shop which were fit their workforce boris
supple wrist is the world
from the mind and i would reiterate that from
living in *** bay
on have my own probably all
so in that area there's
to uh...
first to improve water improvement districts defended the waterworks anna
ships point
improvement district
both of those
well water districts signed on in support
and endorsed people are like myself will come in the door vol in between and we
have our own trend welds
so were all beastly and supporters walkers will not only worried about
wanting
were worried about
quantity because
uh... in my neighborhood we had three people who were in once ran dry last
year
we had and i'm normally dreicer
but the view that as it may uh... we still stay still ran out of water and
some of these
people been used these worlds for thirty five years
uh... you know what would happen if you got it
all morning rental mon
headquarters at the old street for him
where the ramifications for that so
obviously you can you can see where
were pretty concerned so
uh...
when we looked at your drinking water protection act
wheat we realized that most of it was designed to
huge yuki you could take action after you were harmed in other words you know
your water legal ran out of water you couldn't drink the water
we decides that's what we're told that by men along clinic we'd like to look at
this from a different perspective
whether or not we can take a proactive approach this
and and it's and say that there's a eminent
wrist were warmer and and that's what we've done so
the balls in the port of the uh...
public health officer with uh... with the formal wilson
she welcomes that uh...
i think it was pretty significant
the reason i bring this up is it
this might not be a big
deal for you guys did u you got your own as usual here
anderson you gotta understand that this project
all aspects of this project are connected
the airship faulty here
in portal bernie
gary alluded to
uh...
the uh... issues and concerns over the dredging you've got to do so for tickets
to get the people worried about the transportation
coalitions highway for
what's gonna happen to the fisheries of all
everything disorganized or concerns
on our side of the hall
but were all connected
you can't you
if the that the cold and coming out of here
doesn't come out of the ground
anytime in the portal permit
you don't worry bout pulled pork
and it's all it's it's all interconnected and you know when you
hear talk about well
you might want we both did it and the in what ways but make no mistake
mit mr patrick says been very clear
that
or bearers zeroed in on port alberni have support because
when they started the environmental suspect they had to
basically
make up their mind where the port was going to be about sport that's in the
scope of the assessment anything
they change is good be outside of that scope and they would have to be sick
they call time out
and uh... is it it caught somebody at the huge sum of money probably john
capital
you could probably manage it is not too keen on
so finally i what i like to do is give me an update appointee and on
where we're at it
environment assessment process so
uh... i would add to that
the a_r_d_ i guess
which stands for application information requirements
uh... and the federal side this paul beaver middle impact statement
terms of reference where everyone to call it
that's was formalize in june of two thousand twelve
finalize there's no more commenting it spits
basically cast in stone
six ten the proponent has been um...
compiling a replication
and at some point they will submit it to mean there was talk back in october they
were going to drop in anytime
then it was january latin leader singer for
years uh...
is being shipped important called intend to
all subpoenaed ***
submit it
possibly lately random this month or early
march but
uh... it said the body's yes
so once they do submit it
it has to be what they call screamed
screening means it that the
mister b eight to ten thousand pages by the way
all twelve dollars excuse me yes with them
yeah that's with the drawings in their tendencies and everything so
it's usually gets you know allot of stuff
so it's admitted to the regulators
prevention week and uh... federally and then they
they have a timeline of thirty days to look at the saying in and make sure it's
pouring for complete
not adequate the complete numbers they have to make sure that all the stuff
that's required
in the terms of references included in that
in the in the application now
uh... i've been told that by about roughly
fifty percent of them roughly fifty percent of the ones that are submitted
bowl passed most of the first over other people
you go back to the drawing boards than that
the clock stopped the get go back to the drawing board
and uh...
in in indicate complete so
if it passes muster
then um...
the was uniform iti
get all ready to go and submit to the public will use the public
will be a seven-day public
uh...
heads up a called
announcement public announcement that it's coming out and then we're off and
running on a hundred eighty days applications david
the first part of that would be a fifty-day from that period
and uh...
if they for instance if they were going to make it
first march
by trieste
uh...
the you'd be looking at
the poem public comment period starting saved
mid april fifty days
wpm
you can see were we might
uh... i think it is quite possible we're going to be in an election mode in a
puppet government period all won't seem to be very interesting to say at least
keep a lot of people are very busy
at the end of the uh... quaterly d_-day application review stage
the reserve report from the
from the canadian vinyl cellspacing ended
the issue no simple
bc of our middle system office
made uh...
made to the ministers of embargo verbally provincial even they have forty
five days to make a decision
so idaho i'd take baby body into this year will have a decision by the
ministers
one way or the other i'm just guessing
uh... that it gets in entirely possible but it's
all depends on one compliance interested rampant region and it it's complete or
not
i guess the final thoughts i would add is that uh...
last year have three-and-a-half years that i've been a ball to me
there's no absolutely
no evidence
theaters antisocial license for this project in either community
or daliberti
uh... promotes valley now
compliance is doing everything except brought hundred-dollar bills from a
helicopter to try to get people to
to make this attractive to the
attracted today residents in the form of telling
airport alberni bit
and you know three-and-a-half years in my opinion was there's absolutely no
evidence of a social licensing that has to be earned by the proponent
failed the test my opinion if somebody wants to
disagree they can if they want to show me the evidence
i'd like to see if it
the reason i say that i mean it was really
if you look at it
nearly five thousand comments today
that's driven into written honecker's
ninety five percent on norms
part should definitely concerned were opposed to the project
yours local government concern aren't we just talked about detective it in
and at the levels in the pool marks valley even died but failed to mention
uh... welcome beach town council they passed the motion which i think by far
is the best of all
the test at back in september of two thousand ten
so all
blown board yet
you were brought us talk about the shellfish industry
certainly um...
there's been some written
concern from first nations uh... in their comments during the uh... drafting
of the air so forth dinner
in the attracting table
sold to help a lot of concern
but what i think what i'd like to end with
today
give everybody a pat on the back in here
who's been
uh... working on this for the last three and a half years
you efforts or making a difference i can tell you that for sure
what are you
you've got a sign in your yard whether you've got a bumper sticker whether u
written letters to the editor of whether you're going to tell all meetings
papa clapton's in your house whatever might be
but installed making a difference
believe me uh...
this is a high profile one middle assessment
you know megan
bolivia learning a lot of people who go what raymond cool mind but still
the decision makers
uh...
frosted she'll
uh... give yourself a pat on the back of the same time to devastate focused
put travel fee credible information out there we got to be
make at the end of the day we gotta make
whoever the next
government is prevention lee
in the election of may
well this year
wherever the government of the day is going to be in des moines global said
uh... port most likely will be the same government that's in there right now we
got to be prepared to make it
a credible argument
uh...
in office issued to this
proposal soul
i think we're making a difference
some days it doesn't seem like like i really do
devastate cuban even tial schism
this is america online desperate
stay engaged
and uh... stay informed and uh...
i think we're going to be successful and beaten this
tools that it
will take some questions if you have any
saw entertain questions
balls
input incom berlin
i have no idea
i could hybrid i really couldn't tell you that i come down
for picket winston for several decades at least
i think i i think roberta more murderer come on up here
moniker
so that's a great question
that was then this is now
the world is in the same please do
the food we them and the *** we put up with them in the people that died in
those mines ma'am
they're not going to be doing it now
'cause it's no longer permissible
practice
we don't need food it's contaminated anymore we tested to death
that's where kids you know they can eat a slightly more than
because it seems to be put them into mister seat still there twenty
people are not willing to accept the risk anymore
it will not eat food it's contaminated
so sure deepak tang everybody worked in them
you know i mailed out black lung disease in the middle
but now we don't do that
so
ides that's my point
thing
food
compact like one more day get make
you talk about cumberland what we cover when
uh... mind that call that brought it down to place called union day
in a small to get down there
anders what they call the
the waste called files right you're right now
that's been i think they'd gave actually
did that happen to know walt nineteen early nineteen sixties
endorsed your today's date *** doesn't work
probably mediated last
and you of last estimates going to cost seventeen million dollars
to immediate it's still to this day
closing formal so
the long-term effects
from this
from these poor minds is
astronomical long-term yet
i
hi haven't followed by closely enough to speak novelty book moment is should ask
the port authority of a right
environmental fault
well there's some members here we could
did consider it right
i don't know of a answer those questions
said
but uh... from what i've heard
is that the container port is actually gonna be halfway down the inlet
because the harbor itself is next to big enough for the container ships are just
too big they can't even turn around
sold think european dredging down there don't know
the actual pork that they want to do is actually down
and i think it's
i remember the name david at work
that's where they were thing in the container ships 'cause the harbors
thanks chris
we will make more of an effort this week once again ted tran approach that
counsel ticket an opportunity cassettes i think like to say it's timely everyone
else's on its own make them look
uh... will make sure to get some media they don't do it
i have i will say i've been really disappointed in the new challenge tribal
council not accepting my invitation to speak to them
annie hall
that reconsider
and i'm hurt by it actually because uh... they had john topix com
i wanted to speak alongside of him uh... side by side is my favorite with both of
us
uh... together
but they decline that offer and and and and and i was away and they asked again
so you know i am story ching up to them so i think it's time now that we've got
the other side like to say
to start coming over here a little more
and uh... thank you for that
just off just on the council stuff
we're going to b
environmental coalition is
basically going to the meeting monday night ask them what are they going to do
with me
we tempelsman twelve thousand pages
stuff to review and will
suggest
it would be a useful thing for them put here so i've got
yet
but it's interesting
and instants
further
we uh...
originally
theory that i'd suggest org tractors people instead
uh... it's a long story we're going to take it
ac or
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and really organized at least that john topics
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or experts there
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and re addressed our questions directly to them
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one thing it one thing i'd like to mention to you before
but forget is that
i think there's ah...
might see visible flyers around here somewhere
uh... visit
between of
call watch
water kumar slowly waterworks coalition and sierra club co marks fairly we
um...
with together in the web site which is
which is a database collector in other words when you saw if you go to
website
rec raven mine action dossier
um... you can look at
what we're all about some of the issues on the mind
and that if you want to put in europe for basement
put on the database we can contact you directly here and they got to get an
email
one-week we're gonna need to do something like an actual worked so if
you would
if you would consider of looking at the website i'd appreciate if you want
but your information and your date
they join if i think right now we got four hundred and fifty people on there
we can often run for a couple weeks old
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