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here we've been talking often on the list for a while but this issue is of
filming interactions with police and we've had marked bencher on the show
from the a_c_l_u_ michigan talking about
uh...
devices that the police used to get information from people that the based
have traffic stops with off of their phones
we've also talked to ryan raja from the competitive enterprise institute about
different
what the different laws are about what you can and can't record and how you can
interfere
or observed
interactions with police
and now there is a police inquiry which is revealing that there were number of
violations in the arrest and beating of a videographer and we have some of the
video here a play some of it for you
there was an individual who was building
a police traffic stop this was in las vegas
and a police officer is now investigation because dvd there was
there is videotape
of the beating of a man from a few months ago who
uh...
was was being stopped this is mitchell crooks complaint
about officer derek callings
and they're calling is being accused of excessive force
and this was stained
according to deputy chief gary schofield and the specific byob violations will be
released but
let me show you some of the video that same question here let's take a look
as you can see we just have someone filming all described for our audience
police car drives up
uh... observing
in the office it is not like when it came uptown right
app right
also like it
with hope it
what what
parents all stop it there because i think it but it may be preparing the
place to the cause for
we've talked about this a bunch of times less you know that we have and this is
one of the i don't buy really and not a fan of being one of these people who was
just difficult with police for no reason okay most police to just doing their job
most police are not a out there to bother people
and i'm not one of these people that advocates just using every absolute
pulling out every single stop when you're talking to the police district
irritated instigate
but the reality here
and because you and i would have had a number of issues where we've had to not
run certain stories
because we were concerned
not that we actually done anything wrong in terms of the audio or video recording
but because
even if there was that perception just having to deal with it and get a lawyer
to explain we did nothing wrong
would be incredibly expensive so were sensitive to this idea of
police bugging you when you're filming completely legally
and we've talked about it wouldn t essay
so this is a situation where there's a traffic stop going on there is a man
not in the way he's not on the road
and the police officer pulls up
within what was that about thirty seconds he asks the camera to be shut
off
legally there is no reason for that camera to have to be shut off the man
was not interfering in his nothing anyone in danger
uses filming things going on out in public
and he got beaten up by a police officer
and this is not the beating up
we hear time and time again that police at police officers very often
even if they know if you have to assume that you know the law they know that
people can mean okay actually
i'm willing to bet that the vast majority of them are clueless as to laws
regarding
uh... recording cameras see i disagree i think a lot of these police officers are
relying similarly lewis to the fact that money on for myself
many police not police officers in interactions with people
know that unless they are with probable cause formally detaining someone they
can't just asked that person to do anything they're relying on the fact
that most people don't know that most people don't know they can
refuse a search in many cases for example
i think most police officers know the rules about filming they're just hoping
the other person doesn't know
so when they say turn your camera often your camera off the person doesn't pay
he was ignoring my request
that person was being was it's insubordination
you think they just a clueless
of course
if a cop knows
that the person with the camera is within their legal rights
and trust of mister off anyway and then beats them up because of that
clearly doesn't know
the he doubted he was getting herself in trouble with the date that idon't know
that it's not clear they may just believe that you-know-what
but they can just do whatever they want method and some but some of the what
will believe a different thing which is once they're starting to get lalit and
explain that these are their rights then they're kind of being uh... aggressive
towards me and then it opens up the door i can do whatever i want i don't if i'd
been as a threat
those and this is come up with the g_s_a_
and it turns out you can film g_s_a_ packed and you can don't use a
screenplay songs you don't interfere and it's the same thing with police
this is one that we've we have to keep an eye on because this is going to
continue fortunately this time
it looks like the police officer isn't just getting off scot-free
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