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when we were looking at the energetic update a big strong message came through from different
channels and this is not everybody it's actually a
minority of individuals sort of feeling this but its strong enough to create a question
mark about what to do next or what's important now where do I go from here type energy and
it's basically to do with well now that we're just being and not doing do I continue to
process do I bother to meditate do I continue learning anything do I continue working on
ascension and all those are questions that came up for individuals who would were looking
at if it's over then what's the point type thing or what should what do I do now which
again it's like what do I DO now ya rather than what do I BE now or what am I now and
so the 3 of us have been looking at the to be able to address it in ways in which it
could be understood and several things came up for us and one of them from my personal
perspective would have been that the processing has never been the journey
yeah and theres a big difference between a journey of ascension and or the walking through
a path or being the path and so it's like the doing and being of ascension is different
somehow, but it's extremely subtle ya and I always still encourage each individual to
process and I process everyday became if the difference between responding and reacting
yeah so if something makes me react I'm not Being myself I'm not Being in integrity I'm
not Being complete I'm reacting I'm doing something according to some other stimuli
yeah So I immediately processes it so that I don't I stop doing that in a way I go back
to being in my center I go back to my beingness It's simply a tool and I think something you
said Victoria that was really cool that you said well it's a choice between suffering
or not suffering and I thought that was really good as well because suffering is basically
a very low vibration and when we choose not to be in that low vibration we're being we're
manifesting our true self we're not low vibration basically hmmm yeah you know just to did you
want to say more or shall I go ahead Yeah several things
occur to me to bring up in light of this conversation and actually have to give credit where credit
is due I think Lucia is the one who said it's goes I think I've made up the title after
that to suffer or not to suffer, processing is
the question.
but uh ya you know when we have an unprocessed ego we have stuff we have programs in our
unconscious that cause those reactions. so this tool of processing is a way to make those
unconscious things conscious and to end the polarization so we come into that place of
oneness, of beingness. so when a stimuli occurs from a place of non-judgement, non-polarization,
non-reactivity, a place of pure beingness we can then respond. it was very interesting
to watch that what i recognize happening is there are states in what Leslie has described
as the upward and downward spiral. so those of you who have read the marriage of spirit
know about this. way down on the downward spiral there is a state of attention, it's
a vibration. it's an emotional experience of something called meaninglessness. and it's
very uncomfortable and it's pure suffering. and what i saw happening was a strand of that
energy, coming in of meaninglessness and that meaninglessness was triggered by this misunderstanding
about doing and being. because stay with me here i'm going to just try and describe a
little loop in consciousness here. if we feel that by meditating and processing that we
are ascending our vibration that is true but if the ego takes that as an egoic doing a
striving for something that is actually a programming in the ego that needs validation
from succeeding. so that program of doing in order to succeed um basically kind of torques
the whole trajectory and coops the purity and the capacity for this ascending in vibration
to be more spontaneous and it actually moves it into a place of pure striving for success.
and that's a program, just an egoic program. so that aspect that was taking the journey
of ascension and making it a trajectory of doing things in order to succeed, that aspect
had the rug pulled out from under it and dropped right into this pit of meaninglessness. which
is right next to worthlessness and destitution. right at the bottom of the vibratory spiral.
so, what we're saying here is to see this for what it is, understand that we always,
we just start from where we are at. and when we first start the journey of ascension most
of us are purely coming from our egos so our egos are kind of running the show. but at
a certain point along this journey or a certain point while the ascension is happening we
want to let the ego step aside and not be running the show. and i was telling inelia
and lucia the other day i feel like this kind of like crossing the rubicon in your ascension.
in this journey of ascending your vibration. so.
before you continue can you explain what that means, what that term means because i've never
heard it before.
which term
crossing the rubicon
oh. the rubicon. oh it's a reference to i think it was roman history. crossing the rubicon
was the deciding point between whether something could happen or not happen. its an important
stumbling block to get beyond. ok. yeah. sorry. it's just one of those phrases in fact i don't
know the history so i probably shouldn't use that phrase. somebody on the call will know
the historical meaning of it but i think it was something with the roman army, like if
they could cross the rubicon then they could take some new territory or something. ok.
it's like an important part of the journey, when, its like what i can spiritual ego. when
the ego is running the spiritual journey. and when we can see that and let it go then
we are available to let these tentacles of doing to succeed be pulled off of this journey
of just pure being. and um you know you are just such a perfect example of this inelia,
i mean this is probably something you've never dealt with.
you're right, i'm having a bit of a problem trying to follow what i'm saying. to grasp
whats happening because it's so. it's difficult for me to conceptualize that. especially when
you've mentioned the other day that there are individuals that have been doing transcendental
meditation for 40-something years and they haven't transcended and it's because they're
doing, they're doing meditation, they are doing their little practice, they're not Being.
exactly. and it's really difficult for me to grasp, but i understand when you describe
it i can see it. but i still haven't grasped it so that i can get it into my understanding
fully. but i sense it. it's a sense at the moment.
it creates tension. it creates tension and what it does is block the capacity to surrender.
maybe that's another way to put it. it disallows the capacity to fully just surrender and allow
what is there to be perceived and experienced. and it usually means that we subscribe to
a lot of beliefs systems about how it should be and then we look for something to align
with how we think it should be. and all these things get in the way of being able to just
let go and Be. so i'm coming from the place of having experienced all these things. and
having kind of lived through it with other people as well. does the make more sense when
i phrase it like that?
ya it does. what i'm perceiving is. i was talking to a friend the other day. and she
was telling me that she was doing a course in kundhalini energy or dundhalini meditation
or something, i can't remember exactly what she was doing and it was a teaching that had
been taught for many hundreds of years and she said it was extremely strict with her
diet, what she could or could not drink. when her teacher arrived she had to be in a certain
position and the position had to be held for a certain, very precise amount of time and
the movements had to be done in a very exact manner in order to activate or to bring forth
the kundhalini energy. and then when she managed to do various of these things she felt the
energy and she thought oh my goodness but i can do this just by thinking about it, or
even just willing it and it's there. i don't have to do all this stuff.
and when i was looking at that structure it's like it's there All the time. that energy
is in everybody all the time. we try to, we block it off because we've been taught that
any energies down there are to do with sex and we have to have sex or it's desire. which
it isn't. it's just an interpretation. that's also another path of doing. but the energy
is there all the time all you have to do is think about it or put your attention on it
and it will burst out. and then the other part of the exercises were to weave it through
all the back of the spine i think all the way up to the other chakras where you would
then use it, i think i don't know. i couldn't quite grasp it. but it was full of structure
and methodology and control. control, absolute control. and it was just well you know you
put your attention on it it's there and then it explodes into every dimension possible
and every direction possible. and then it's beautiful and you can do whatever you like.
but that's what i am reminded of when you were talking about that because it felt very
much that it was a path that had been designed by someone who was very much in their brain
and they had to drill down all the way to absolute control to grasp this energy and
pull it back up because they were afraid of it or something but they had to control it.
and that's what i'm seeing perhaps is that path of going down there when it's there all
the time. and you go there you can be there anytime and i kind of that came up for me
when you were describing it in a way in which perhaps i could understand it.
yeah. well we can look it in several ways. one is some of these methodologies were evolved
thousands of years ago and maybe for that time it was necessary. also the one thing
that in what you are saying and that i want to bring up is processing and meditation and
all these tools all of these tools and things we've learned how to do allow us to pull away
the blockages. there is a phrase, thinning the veils, its like this programmed ego, the
programming in the go, the belief systems, the contracts, the commitments that are in
the egos people who have had more than, this isn't there first incarnation, they've had
many incarnations, or even just a few. that stuff which is in the, it's actually has a
physical component it's in the physical body, it's in the subtle physical body, the emotional
body. that stuff blocks the capacity to just Be and allow the energy. so some of these
tools are merely there to remove the blockages so that energy can just simply Be and go out
into all these different dimensions. and i think that what you keep pointing out is that
because the energies of the world have shifted so dramatically and the planetary ascension
is such that is much more available now. yeah. and it's very easy to just see the blockage
and let it go and not have to go through all these contortions and eat a certain way, sit
a certain way, all those things you were describing to access that energy. yeah, does that kind
of sound right?
yeah. and the last piece i suppose is that once you activate it, you are that energy.
yes.
so it's not an energy that is there that you can use it and whatever, you actually are
it.
right. right. that's yourself. that's self-discovery.